Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hello, Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Its a science which should not be relied upon. It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. Sorry for my language. Kind Regards, Jim. , "shivam0101" <shivam0101 wrote: > > Hello, > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 How can you say that palmistry should not be relied upon? Not even the palm, just thumb is sufficient to indicate your entire horoscope! The proven wonders of vedic-jyotish like 'nadi-astrology' is based on the fact that the exact birth chart is indicated in your thumb and only based on this thumb impressions [no need for any birth details] it is possible to predict one's entire horoscope including past birth. India is the richest in heritage and such specialities one can even find it hard to belive!!! Please don't write such comments without knowing the fact. Thanks and Regards, Krishnaraja Puranik vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind > wrote: Its a science which should not be relied upon. It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. Sorry for my language. Kind Regards, Jim. , "shivam0101" <shivam0101 wrote: > > Hello, > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is only supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link to Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind > wrote: Its a science which should not be relied upon. It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. Sorry for my language. Kind Regards, Jim. , "shivam0101" <shivam0101 wrote: > > Hello, > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 ??? ??? ?????? Dear Jim and Netherlands, Namaskar Some people would also question whether Jyotish can be considered a 'pure' science, as it being a vedanga would equate the Vedas as being scientific vs. spiritual. On which basis did you decide that samudrika shastra (palmistry) is not to be relied upon? I've heard of some very systematic palmists who could tell the year and month of certain events by measuring the length of lines, etc. There is a lot of math reg. palmistry in the books of L.R. Choudhary. Are you familiar with these? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> Netherlands 2004 wrote: > > Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is only > supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link to > Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. > > */vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind@ >/* wrote: > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > Sorry for my language. > > Kind Regards, > Jim. > > > <%40>, "shivam0101" <shivam0101@ > ...> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > Thanks > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah II Hari om , Friend, Dear Jim, Have you studied Plamistry? It will be nice to read and apply knowledge before reaching conclusions. I am not bold enough to deny or take sides even though I have studied Palmistry for six years and practised for two years.After all samudrik shastra is part of vedic Scripture, I advice you Better Read Book of "Hast Samudrik Shastra by K.C.Sen at least and see the depth it has before expressing views about it. With best wishes. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Niramaya Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit HARI OM TATSAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava For Consultation -Service E-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" Shaheed Nagar. Agra 282001 INDIA Ph +91-562-223-2323/+91-562-400-1223 Mob +91-94122-68768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.kaalvastu.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com ------------------------ Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction! - vedicastro_mind Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:14 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry Its a science which should not be relied upon. It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. Sorry for my language. Kind Regards, Jim. , "shivam0101" <shivam0101 wrote: > > Hello, > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 what is the scientific base of vedic astrology' W. - Netherlands 2004 Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:49 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is only supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link to Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind > wrote: Its a science which should not be relied upon. It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. Sorry for my language. Kind Regards, Jim. , "shivam0101" <shivam0101 wrote: > > Hello, > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear Paulo, Namskar, Its been narated by Lord Bramha to a Bramhin refer BPHS. Kind Regards, Jim , "paulo mendes" <woodwater1000 wrote: > > what is the scientific base of vedic astrology' > > W. > - > Netherlands 2004 > > Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:49 AM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > > Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is only supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link to Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. > > vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind wrote: > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > Sorry for my language. > > Kind Regards, > Jim. > > , "shivam0101" <shivam0101@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear Guruji, Sadar Pranaam, My apologies on my statement on Palmistry. Best Wishes, Jim , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Jim and Netherlands, Namaskar > Some people would also question whether Jyotish can be considered a > 'pure' science, as it being a vedanga would equate the Vedas as being > scientific vs. spiritual. > On which basis did you decide that samudrika shastra (palmistry) is not > to be relied upon? I've heard of some very systematic palmists who could > tell the year and month of certain events by measuring the length of > lines, etc. There is a lot of math reg. palmistry in the books of L.R. > Choudhary. Are you familiar with these? > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen > email: visti <visti > For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > Netherlands 2004 wrote: > > > > Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is only > > supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link to > > Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. > > > > */vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind@ >/* wrote: > > > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > > > Sorry for my language. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Jim. > > > > > > <%40>, "shivam0101" <shivam0101@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > http://mail. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear Swami Guru, Sadar Pranaam, My apologies on my statement. Best Wishes, Jim. , "swami" <swami_rcs wrote: > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > Hari om , Friend, > Dear Jim, > Have you studied Plamistry? > It will be nice to read and apply knowledge before reaching conclusions. > I am not bold enough to deny or take sides even though I have studied Palmistry for six years and practised for two years.After all samudrik shastra is part of vedic Scripture, I advice you Better Read Book of "Hast Samudrik Shastra by K.C.Sen at least and see the depth it has before expressing views about it. > With best wishes. > > > > Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah > Sarve Santu Niramaya > Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu > Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit > HARI OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > R.C.Srivastava > For Consultation -Service > E-mail : swami_rcs > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > Shaheed Nagar. Agra 282001 > INDIA > > Ph +91-562-223-2323/+91-562-400-1223 > Mob +91-94122-68768 > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.kaalvastu.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > ------------------------ > Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy > radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy > our sins, and guide us in the right direction! > > > - > vedicastro_mind > > Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:14 AM > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > Sorry for my language. > > Kind Regards, > Jim. > > , "shivam0101" <shivam0101@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 those books were written by men,just like the bible and today we know many things in the bible are wrong p - vedicastro_mind Monday, December 18, 2006 7:14 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry Dear Paulo, Namskar, Its been narated by Lord Bramha to a Bramhin refer BPHS. Kind Regards, Jim , "paulo mendes" <woodwater1000 wrote: > > what is the scientific base of vedic astrology' > > W. > - > Netherlands 2004 > > Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:49 AM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > > Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is only supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link to Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. > > vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind wrote: > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > Sorry for my language. > > Kind Regards, > Jim. > > , "shivam0101" <shivam0101@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 ??? ??? ?????? Dear Jim and Paulo, Namaskar That Jyotish was spoken by Brahma to Parasara doesn't prove its validity to be 'scientific'. The Devas also spoke the Vedas, Aagamas, Nigamas, Puranas, etc. Will you put these under the banner of science? If you read that a purana states that reciting a mantra one lakh times will give certain effects, can you put it to a scientific test to prove the effects stated in the purana after a native has performed the rite? If so, then how does faith and devotion compliment the scientific equation? However, regarding the writings of the seers to be free from scrutiny and thus subject to mistakes is a mistake in itself. The words of Parasara came from his Grandfather and son of Brahma, Maharishi Vashista. Vashista and many other seers lived along the Sarasvati river where the Veda was compiled along with its six vedangas (Jyotisha, Kalpa, Nirukta, Siksha, Vyakarana and Chhandas). In these ashrams the seers along with their students would put their knowledge to scrutiny, thus developing their understanding and skill in the subjects. This was continued in the traditions of India and the literature was discussed and kept alive in the gurukulas around what we now know as India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Tibet, Afghanistan, China, etc. In these Gurukuls the knowledge was discussed and again put under serious scrutiny, just as we are attempting to do here in this forum today. It is for this reason that the knowledge survived until now. The Brhat Parasara Hora Shastra was in fact collected through interaction of those who had learnt the shastra in the tradition, hence, through their efforts we have it available with us today. Because of the age of BPHS, it is considered one of the great 'gospels' of vedic astrology. This, and Jaimini's Upadesa Sutra, are considered part of the same tradition as its traditionally taught that Jaimini was the student of Parasaras son: Vyasa. Other important compilations of Parasara worth looking into are: Parasara Samhita (a treatise dealing a lot with mundane Jyotish), Vishnu Purana (one of the main 18 puranas specifically spoken by Parasara) and Parasara Smriti (one of the smritis or guidebooks on dharma). Whilst i'm personally in the possession of Vishnu Purana and BPHS, i would be interested if anyone has been in touch with the Parasara Samhita, besides the citations made in the Brhat Samhita. I hope this is of use to you. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> paulo mendes wrote: > > those books were written by men,just like the bible and today we know > many things in the bible are wrong > > p > > - > ** vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind > > *To:* > <> > *Sent:* Monday, December 18, 2006 7:14 AM > *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > Dear Paulo, > Namskar, > > Its been narated by Lord Bramha to a Bramhin refer BPHS. > > Kind Regards, > Jim > > > <>, "paulo mendes" > <woodwater1000@ ...> wrote: > > > > what is the scientific base of vedic astrology' > > > > W. > > - > > Netherlands 2004 > > > <> > > Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:49 AM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > > > > > Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is > only supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link > to Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. > > > > vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_ mind wrote: > > > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > > > Sorry for my language. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Jim. > > > > > <%40>, "shivam0101" <shivam0101@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > http://mail. <> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah II Hari om , Dear Friend, Science is understood to be organised system of Knowledge. Ancients divide science in two type, Para and Apara. Para is related to existence as viewed by self though perception in audio and visual mode in dimension extending within the realm of consciousness. Apara is related to existance as viewed by humans in verifyable mode identifable by sense organs and deomstrable within cosmos. In science we have concepts that help us to understand phenomen in light of hypothesis made available at a time of human evolution.For apara it could be always replicable. But for para same applies but replication is not always predicatable, Now most of the apara vidya( sciences, if you wish to call so) are within the domain of Human consciousness is a function of Way of your perception based on your choice.Rishi are ancient master as good as scientist, and most of knowledge comes from Them. Both Palmistry and astrology as well as Feng sui you practice are coming from same source irrespective of which segment of human race it has originated ,may be vedic,hindu chinese.Egypitians. It is surprising question is coming from a person who is such a giant in wisdom and practisoner of ancient science.Perhaps it is your sense of Humor that you are igniting debates to let people come out with their understanding.Hope this mail is digestable. With best wishes. Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah Sarve Santu Niramaya Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit HARI OM TATSAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava For Consultation -Service E-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" Shaheed Nagar. Agra 282001 INDIA Ph +91-562-223-2323/+91-562-400-1223 Mob +91-94122-68768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.kaalvastu.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com ------------------------ Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction! - paulo mendes Monday, December 18, 2006 5:19 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry those books were written by men,just like the bible and today we know many things in the bible are wrong p - vedicastro_mind Monday, December 18, 2006 7:14 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry Dear Paulo, Namskar, Its been narated by Lord Bramha to a Bramhin refer BPHS. Kind Regards, Jim , "paulo mendes" <woodwater1000 wrote: > > what is the scientific base of vedic astrology' > > W. > - > Netherlands 2004 > > Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:49 AM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > > Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is only supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link to Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. > > vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind wrote: > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > Sorry for my language. > > Kind Regards, > Jim. > > , "shivam0101" <shivam0101@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Dear Guruji, Pranaam, Well , very great knowledge , this email is of good resource of veda knowledge. Kind Regards, Jim. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Jim and Paulo, Namaskar > That Jyotish was spoken by Brahma to Parasara doesn't prove its validity > to be 'scientific'. The Devas also spoke the Vedas, Aagamas, Nigamas, > Puranas, etc. Will you put these under the banner of science? If you > read that a purana states that reciting a mantra one lakh times will > give certain effects, can you put it to a scientific test to prove the > effects stated in the purana after a native has performed the rite? If > so, then how does faith and devotion compliment the scientific equation? > > However, regarding the writings of the seers to be free from scrutiny > and thus subject to mistakes is a mistake in itself. The words of > Parasara came from his Grandfather and son of Brahma, Maharishi > Vashista. Vashista and many other seers lived along the Sarasvati river > where the Veda was compiled along with its six vedangas (Jyotisha, > Kalpa, Nirukta, Siksha, Vyakarana and Chhandas). In these ashrams the > seers along with their students would put their knowledge to scrutiny, > thus developing their understanding and skill in the subjects. > This was continued in the traditions of India and the literature was > discussed and kept alive in the gurukulas around what we now know as > India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Tibet, Afghanistan, China, etc. > > In these Gurukuls the knowledge was discussed and again put under > serious scrutiny, just as we are attempting to do here in this forum > today. It is for this reason that the knowledge survived until now. > The Brhat Parasara Hora Shastra was in fact collected through > interaction of those who had learnt the shastra in the tradition, hence, > through their efforts we have it available with us today. > > Because of the age of BPHS, it is considered one of the great 'gospels' > of vedic astrology. This, and Jaimini's Upadesa Sutra, are considered > part of the same tradition as its traditionally taught that Jaimini was > the student of Parasaras son: Vyasa. > Other important compilations of Parasara worth looking into are: > Parasara Samhita (a treatise dealing a lot with mundane Jyotish), Vishnu > Purana (one of the main 18 puranas specifically spoken by Parasara) and > Parasara Smriti (one of the smritis or guidebooks on dharma). > Whilst i'm personally in the possession of Vishnu Purana and BPHS, i > would be interested if anyone has been in touch with the Parasara > Samhita, besides the citations made in the Brhat Samhita. > > I hope this is of use to you. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen > email: visti <visti > For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > paulo mendes wrote: > > > > those books were written by men,just like the bible and today we know > > many things in the bible are wrong > > > > p > > > > - > > ** vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind > > *To:* > > <> > > *Sent:* Monday, December 18, 2006 7:14 AM > > *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > > > Dear Paulo, > > Namskar, > > > > Its been narated by Lord Bramha to a Bramhin refer BPHS. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Jim > > > > > > <>, "paulo mendes" > > <woodwater1000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > what is the scientific base of vedic astrology' > > > > > > W. > > > - > > > Netherlands 2004 > > > > > <> > > > Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:49 AM > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Palmistry > > > > > > > > > Palmistry cannot be verified by mathematical calculation. It is > > only supplemantary to Jypotish. Not to be relied when you have a link > > to Jyotish source. IPalimstry IS NOT SCIENCE. > > > > > > vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_ mind@> wrote: > > > > > > Its a science which should not be relied upon. > > > It doesnt have scientific base as like Vedic -Jyotish. > > > > > > Sorry for my language. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Jim. > > > > > > > > <%40>, "shivam0101" <shivam0101@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Can anyone please provide me a good palmist address in Bangalore? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > http://mail. <> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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