[Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones- questions]

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Dear Anuj, Namaskar

When i first wore a gem for Jupiter i fell sick within a week. To test

this i would sometimes take of the gem for a few weeks and then wear it

again for a week to see the effects only to confirm that i fell sick

again. This was a citrine at the time.

 

This happened to the extent that i gave up on wearing the gem and wanted

to give it back. At this juncture Sanjayji told me to keep the gem in

milk overnight. The next morning we then sat down and recited the

Brhaspati Gayatri whilst keeping the gem in the left hand and covering

it with the right (prasna marga).

 

The result was that i barely fell sick ever again whilst wearing the

gemstone. I learnt alot of jyotish and my trips back and forth through

conferences began. Since then i realized that the gemstone ALSO depends

on the devata who will sit in it, and a gemstone without a devata will

be like a house without any other occupant than the thoughts and

feelings of the one who previously handled the gemstone. Well.... i fell

sick with that.

 

Since then i always wear the gemstone on the day of the devata after

reciting mantras for that devata, thus imbibing the gemstone with some

auspicious 'bimba'. Has anybody written any articles on how to do this,

and do you always make sure to practice this yourself?

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Visti,

>

> In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona,

> so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

>

> In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter

> is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th

> house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow

> Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

>

> I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen

> the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha

> itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

>

> My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna

> lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells -

> No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting

> Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to

> Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say

> on this matter.

>

> I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Anuj

>

>

>

>

> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> wrote:

>

>

> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Bharat, Namaskar

> One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu

> is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

> Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow

> Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After

> wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling

> around the world and learning Jyotish.

> Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was

> left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal

> studies again.

> Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and

> whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with

> some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability

> to pursue some traveling, but lets see.

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>>

>> Namaste Sri Visti

>>

>> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the

>> strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas

>> that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in

>> Jyotish digest pointing out the same.

>>

>> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was

>> suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire

>> just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri

>> Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

>>

>> Thanks and Regards

>> Bharat (Anuj)

>>

>>

>>

>> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> wrote:

>>

>>

>> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>>

>> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

>> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the

>> mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>>

>> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had

>> written in it?

>>

>> *o Pratama prasna*

>> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more

>> prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly

>> for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow

>> Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

>>

>> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

>> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very

>> auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga.

>> This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth

>> for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but

>> Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't....

>> unless the person travels abroad.

>>

>> This follows the general principle that malefics are

>> auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in

>> trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to

>> be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain

>> due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

>>

>> *o Tritiiya prasna

>> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the

>> ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or

>> aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn...

>> no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a

>> gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't

>> start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

>>

>> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an

>> inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a

>> problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can

>> cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In

>> such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary

>> to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

>>

>> Yours sincerely,

>>

>> --

>> Visti Larsen

>> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

>> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

>> <http://srigaruda.com>

>>

>>

>> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>>

>>> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>>>

>>> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem

>>> stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the

>>> informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

>>>

>>> I have a couple of Qns:

>>> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>>>

>>> You mention for :

>>> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

>>> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue

>>> sapphire.

>>>

>>> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn,

>>> moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still

>>> recommended?

>>>

>>> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in

>>> bad house like 6H or 8H.

>>> e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in

>>> Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>>>

>>> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>>>

>>> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns

>>> one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

>>> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

>>> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>>>

>>> Let me know when you get a moment.

>>>

>>> Warm regards,

>>> Pranav

>>>

>>>

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>>

>

>

 

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Dear , Namaskar

Yours sincerely,

 

--

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II Om Gurave Namah II

Hari om , Friend,

Dear visti,

I read your mails on Gem discussion with rapt attention.

I must have listened your lecture ten times and swee about four times.

In fact after hearing Swee at Delhi in January on Gemstones,

I was getting convinced that a section of astrologers those had

been writing and speaking about pujas before wearing gems were perhaps Right. It is really difficult to have feed back and evaluate the input from users of Gemstones to drive any meaningful inference.I have not come across any good book having case studies.Reasons are Cirulations of about Five theories of wearing Gems and absence of details of events , sometime from wearer to enable evaluation if the results are attribuatable to Dasa/bhukti Transits or are altered results due to waring Gems.

I did made efforts from visitors on list but didd not get adequate feedback..

Here your mail is eye opener and Dear Anuj is appreciated for It is his curosity and work in the field that he ignited discussion out of own conviction.

Late shri Jagannath Bhasin( Anishta Grah karan and Nivaran)) and Santhanam has written and given Tantrik and vedic Mantras and in EST i had read there are people who prescribe Gems and advocate pujas before wearing same views as of Swee .Sh G.S.Kapoor( author of Ratna pradeep& Gems and Astrology) also advocates this theory in his writing.

Among old timers Sh V.A.K Aiyer was perhaps first to say that Gems should be wear after puja by mantra jaap in auspicious days, which was expanded by Narayan datt srimali in his pocket books subsequently.

To summarise , a section od Astrologer believes wearing of Gems after worshiping Graha as deity residing in it, by either of Vedic or Tantrik mantra in an auspicious moment usually based on vaar day.

Incidently it is worth mentioning , on the scenirio apart from contribution

from Late shri Johri there are a duo of famous astrologers in India out of which one has international fame.They started career together from a firm in Calcutta and grew seperatly and are expert for many of their followers

in prescribing Gems ( one is known for numerical pendants other for Remedial Measures).

Hope to hear more educative responses.

 

Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah

Sarve Santu Niramaya

Sarve Bhadrani Pasyantu

Ma Kashchid Dukh Bhaag Bhaveit

HARI OM TATSAT

------------------------

R.C.Srivastava

 

Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy

radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy

our sins, and guide us in the right direction!

 

 

-

Visti Larsen

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:32 PM

[Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions]

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Anuj, Namaskar

When i first wore a gem for Jupiter i fell sick within a week. To test this i would sometimes take of the gem for a few weeks and then wear it again for a week to see the effects only to confirm that i fell sick again. This was a citrine at the time.

 

 

This happened to the extent that i gave up on wearing the gem and wanted to give it back. At this juncture Sanjayji told me to keep the gem in milk overnight. The next morning we then sat down and recited the Brhaspati Gayatri whilst keeping the gem in the left hand and covering it with the right (prasna marga).

 

 

The result was that i barely fell sick ever again whilst wearing the gemstone. I learnt alot of jyotish and my trips back and forth through conferences began. Since then i realized that the gemstone ALSO depends on the devata who will sit in it, and a gemstone without a devata will be like a house without any other occupant than the thoughts and feelings of the one who previously handled the gemstone. Well.... i fell sick with that.

 

 

Since then i always wear the gemstone on the day of the devata after reciting mantras for that devata, thus imbibing the gemstone with some auspicious 'bimba'. Has anybody written any articles on how to do this, and do you always make sure to practice this yourself?

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

Namaste Visti,

 

In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

 

In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house). Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

 

I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

 

My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

 

I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

 

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

Namaste Sri Visti

 

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out the same.

 

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

 

 

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

 

 

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

 

 

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

 

 

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

 

 

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

 

 

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

 

 

sushmagupta51 wrote:

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire :

 

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

 

 

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:

 

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

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Dear , Namaskar

Yours sincerely,

 

--

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email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

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Dear Visti, namaste

 

I dont know if this personal experience helps this discussion or not but I

can vouch for the lines that you wrote below in separate emails.

 

On the advice of Partha, in end-2003 or so at Singapore, I bought a 3 carat

(if I remember correctly) yellow sapphire set in a gold ring. I dont exactly

remember which advise I followed but I immersed the ring in milk and recited

a popular Brihaspati prayer (not Brihaspati Gayatri) 1 lakh times (not at

one stretch but over 4 weeks). After completion of this, then only did I

wear the ring in right hand ring finger. The net result of wearing this

stone was that it made me extremely spiritual and I used to do relatively

longer prayer sessions than I do now. Upon closer examination, I discovered

that it was actually a white sapphire with a faint yellow tinge. This

correlates well with what you have described about white sapphires and it is

noteworthy that Venus is the co-istadevata in my natal chart.

 

But the yellow topaz that Sanjay gave to me during the SJC-Mumbai conference

did indeed work for me as a temporary measure to relieve my job

situation...I dont know how Sanjay managed to instil the devata in that

stone. Both stones are now given away...the white sapphire to someone in

Singapore and the topaz to a representative of Lord Jagannath.

 

best regards

Hari

 

 

 

>

> This happened to the extent that i gave up on wearing the gem and wanted

> to give it back. At this juncture Sanjayji told me to keep the gem in milk

> overnight. The next morning we then sat down and recited the Brhaspati

> Gayatri whilst keeping the gem in the left hand and covering it with the

> right (prasna marga).

> Similarly a White Sapphire (unlike a blue sapphire) is still ruled by

> Jupiter, but carries

>

a qualities of Venus as well... i.e. a Guru-Shukra yoga.

 

 

 

.

>

>

>

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Namaste Visti

 

Thanks for your feedback on wearing gemstones.

 

I would like to share something about gemstones, especially corundums. The

corundum family includes:

 

1. Ruby

2. Yellow Sapphire

3. White Sapphire

4. Blue Sapphire

5. Green Sapphire

6. Green-Blue Sapphire

7. Pink Sapphire

8. Light and faint yellow sapphire

10. Orange Sapphire

11. Yellow & Orange Sapphires (Peach Sapphire) known as Padparadscha (very

famous in Sri Lanka)

12. Yellow & Blue Sapphire

 

As you see the same family of stones relates to Sun, Mercury, Saturn,

Jupiter and Venus. This is dependent upon their chemical composition and

color of light emitted. In that sense, white sapphires are related to Venus

only and Light yellow sapphire could be said to have similar effects that

Sri Hari has shared with us. It is unlikely that a white sapphire will have

results of Jupiter.

 

Similarly, you can use a Green-Blue Sapphire effectively for Mercury-Saturn

combination if required. Padparadscha is a beautiful gemstone that happened

to come to me on its own accord. Intuitively and through its colors, it is

likely to enhance both Jupiter and Sun.

 

It is clear that gemstones should not be tried frivolously. One should treat

them with respect. I have seen people wearing the right gemstone but without

proper worship, it usually will not get the desired results. I guess the

same happened in your case and thanks to Sanjayji that he helped you

overcome its imbalances.

 

Before wearing, following is a must:

 

1. Wash them with Gangajal or water kept in Copper vessel overnight (left

open under the sky).

2. In the morning, keep the gemstone in unboiled milk (preferably cow's

milk)

3. Draw the Yantra of the graha on a Bhojpatra using Anar (pomegranate)

stem.

4. Worship the diety of the graha. Suppose if you need to wear an emerald,

then please worship Lord Vishnu first.

5. Worship the Yantra and the Gemstone, at the prescribed time and date,

facing the direction of the said graha.

 

 

While taking of a gemstone too, it should be done in the temple of the diety

of the said graha.

 

Let me share another thing with you. Recently I had prescribed an Amethyst

to a person. He got the pendant made but whenever he would wear it, his head

would spin. He brought the pendant to me and when I held it, it had huge

negativity. If you are attuned, you can feel these vibrations with

gemstones. Within a few minutes I could make out that it wasn't the

gemstone, but the metal used around it.. was impure. He got it remade it in

Sterling Silver and it suits him fine now. I agree fully that impurity of

past people handling the stone, the metal used in encasing it, the muhurta

of wearing it, does brings changes in the effects.

 

Coming back to using Blue Sapphire for an Aries ascendant to strengthen

Capricorn. I still wonder why would it not strengthen both Saturn and

Aquarius too. This is still my doubt regarding your earlier post. Is there a

way to limit its effects to a particular Rashi only?

 

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/12/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Anuj, Namaskar

> When i first wore a gem for Jupiter i fell sick within a week. To test

> this i would sometimes take of the gem for a few weeks and then wear it

> again for a week to see the effects only to confirm that i fell sick again.

> This was a citrine at the time.

>

> This happened to the extent that i gave up on wearing the gem and wanted

> to give it back. At this juncture Sanjayji told me to keep the gem in milk

> overnight. The next morning we then sat down and recited the Brhaspati

> Gayatri whilst keeping the gem in the left hand and covering it with the

> right (prasna marga).

>

> The result was that i barely fell sick ever again whilst wearing the

> gemstone. I learnt alot of jyotish and my trips back and forth through

> conferences began. Since then i realized that the gemstone ALSO depends on

> the devata who will sit in it, and a gemstone without a devata will be like

> a house without any other occupant than the thoughts and feelings of the one

> who previously handled the gemstone. Well.... i fell sick with that.

>

> Since then i always wear the gemstone on the day of the devata after

> reciting mantras for that devata, thus imbibing the gemstone with some

> auspicious 'bimba'. Has anybody written any articles on how to do this, and

> do you always make sure to practice this yourself?

>

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

>

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Visti,

>

> In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so

> Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

>

> In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in

> 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house).

> Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or

> Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

>

> I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the

> Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can

> you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

>

> My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna

> lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No.

> Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for

> Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well

> as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

>

> I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Anuj

>

>

>

>

> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>

> wrote:

>

>

> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Bharat, Namaskar

> One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is

> placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

> Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and

> then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i

> spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.

> Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left

> somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again.

> Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst

> I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the

> actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling,

> but lets see.

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

>

> Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Visti

>

> Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength

> of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone

> represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out

> the same.

>

> If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for

> Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me

> and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the

> same and share his thoughts too.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat (Anuj)

>

>

>

> On 12/9/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>>

> wrote:

>

>

> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Pranav, Namaskar

> I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is

> normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

>

> I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

>

> *o Pratama prasna*

> The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and

> thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in

> sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces

> more prominent.

>

> *o Dvitiiya prasna*

> When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in

> a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics.

> For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet

> Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't....

> unless the person travels abroad.

>

> This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in

> dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in

> twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy

> from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

>

> *o Tritiiya prasna

> *There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house.

> If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a

> yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter. In

> fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't

> start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

>

> Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house,

> and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna,

> Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth

> lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to

> avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

>

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

>

> sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

>

> I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of

> all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a

> lot of doubts.

>

> I have a couple of Qns:

> 1. *Prescription of Blue sapphire* :

>

> You mention for :

> - Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

> - Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

>

> a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is

> also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

>

> b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like

> 6H or 8H.

> e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue

> sapphire still recommended?

>

> 2. *Strengthening 9th Lord*:

>

> Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the

> malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

> e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

> Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

>

> Let me know when you get a moment.

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

>

>

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> --

> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear , Namaskar

> Yours sincerely,

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

II Om Gurave Namah II

Hari om , Friend,

Dear Anuj, Nameste, nice post.

You mentioned

1.Draw the Yantra of the graha .There are several varieties.

One is Numerical and other as given in Mantra Maharnava (Devata Khanda)

figures 35,36 etc .Yet another varity is in Vedic remedies page 159,160,163 etc.

Whic one to use.

2. I am interested in clarification too? I am Aries and had Blue sapphire, it was ineffective

I wear yellow sapphire , it is ineffective. i knew the procedure but had no faith and no case studies to experiment.

Now I want to try worshipping with faith and see if It helps., tahts why I am seeking clarification of yantra.

Will Brihaspati Gyatri alright for worship?

hope in spare time you can reply.

 

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:47 PM

Re: [Re: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Vistiji's Lecture on Gem Stones - questions]

 

 

Namaste Visti

 

Thanks for your feedback on wearing gemstones.

 

I would like to share something about gemstones, especially corundums. The corundum family includes:

 

1. Ruby

2. Yellow Sapphire

3. White Sapphire

4. Blue Sapphire

5. Green Sapphire

6. Green-Blue Sapphire

7. Pink Sapphire

8. Light and faint yellow sapphire

10. Orange Sapphire

11. Yellow & Orange Sapphires (Peach Sapphire) known as Padparadscha (very famous in Sri Lanka)

12. Yellow & Blue Sapphire

 

As you see the same family of stones relates to Sun, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter and Venus. This is dependent upon their chemical composition and color of light emitted. In that sense, white sapphires are related to Venus only and Light yellow sapphire could be said to have similar effects that Sri Hari has shared with us. It is unlikely that a white sapphire will have results of Jupiter.

 

Similarly, you can use a Green-Blue Sapphire effectively for Mercury-Saturn combination if required. Padparadscha is a beautiful gemstone that happened to come to me on its own accord. Intuitively and through its colors, it is likely to enhance both Jupiter and Sun.

 

It is clear that gemstones should not be tried frivolously. One should treat them with respect. I have seen people wearing the right gemstone but without proper worship, it usually will not get the desired results. I guess the same happened in your case and thanks to Sanjayji that he helped you overcome its imbalances.

 

Before wearing, following is a must:

 

1. Wash them with Gangajal or water kept in Copper vessel overnight (left open under the sky).

2. In the morning, keep the gemstone in unboiled milk (preferably cow's milk)

3. Draw the Yantra of the graha on a Bhojpatra using Anar (pomegranate) stem.

4. Worship the diety of the graha. Suppose if you need to wear an emerald, then please worship Lord Vishnu first.

5. Worship the Yantra and the Gemstone, at the prescribed time and date, facing the direction of the said graha.

 

 

While taking of a gemstone too, it should be done in the temple of the diety of the said graha.

 

Let me share another thing with you. Recently I had prescribed an Amethyst to a person. He got the pendant made but whenever he would wear it, his head would spin. He brought the pendant to me and when I held it, it had huge negativity. If you are attuned, you can feel these vibrations with gemstones. Within a few minutes I could make out that it wasn't the gemstone, but the metal used around it.. was impure. He got it remade it in Sterling Silver and it suits him fine now. I agree fully that impurity of past people handling the stone, the metal used in encasing it, the muhurta of wearing it, does brings changes in the effects.

 

Coming back to using Blue Sapphire for an Aries ascendant to strengthen Capricorn. I still wonder why would it not strengthen both Saturn and Aquarius too. This is still my doubt regarding your earlier post. Is there a way to limit its effects to a particular Rashi only?

 

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/12/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Anuj, Namaskar

When i first wore a gem for Jupiter i fell sick within a week. To test this i would sometimes take of the gem for a few weeks and then wear it again for a week to see the effects only to confirm that i fell sick again. This was a citrine at the time.

 

 

This happened to the extent that i gave up on wearing the gem and wanted to give it back. At this juncture Sanjayji told me to keep the gem in milk overnight. The next morning we then sat down and recited the Brhaspati Gayatri whilst keeping the gem in the left hand and covering it with the right (prasna marga).

 

 

The result was that i barely fell sick ever again whilst wearing the gemstone. I learnt alot of jyotish and my trips back and forth through conferences began. Since then i realized that the gemstone ALSO depends on the devata who will sit in it, and a gemstone without a devata will be like a house without any other occupant than the thoughts and feelings of the one who previously handled the gemstone. Well.... i fell sick with that.

 

 

Since then i always wear the gemstone on the day of the devata after reciting mantras for that devata, thus imbibing the gemstone with some auspicious 'bimba'. Has anybody written any articles on how to do this, and do you always make sure to practice this yourself?

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

Namaste Visti,

 

In your case, Jupiter is a friend of lagna lord and a lord of trikona, so Yellow Sapphire is most likely to suit you.

 

In my case, Rahu is in the 9th with Venus for Mithuna Lagna. Jupiter is in 5th house aspected by Mars (10th), Rahu (9th) and Saturn (11th house).. Though I have many gemstones with me, I cannot wear Yellow Sapphire or Citrine. Major problems start almost immediately.

 

I usually take white sapphire for Venus and it is likely to strengthen the Rasis Taurus and Libra, instead of Pisces, apart from the graha itself. Can you pass on your birth details if you do not mind?

 

My point is when a graha is a functional malefic and an enemy of Lagna lord, should we wear its gemstone? My thoughts and experience tells - No. Now, when I read your mail regarding Blue sapphire for uplifting Saturn for Aries lagna, I get this doubt. I am passing this message to Sohamsa as well as to Sri Swee.. and let us see what all have to say on this matter.

 

I'd really like to hear Sanjayji's comments too. Hope he isn't busy.

 

Thanks and Regards

Anuj

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Bharat, Namaskar

One of the best examples is myself. I have Scorpio Lagna and Rahu is placed in the ninth house. Jupiter is joined Mercury in the eighth.

Initially i wore substitute stones for Jupiter. I.e. Yellow Citrine and then a Heliodore... never a topaz though. After wearing my first gemstone i spent the next 2-3 years traveling around the world and learning Jyotish.

Prior to this i had made some 'blunders' in my education and was left somewhat stuck in this matter. I subsequently began formal studies again..

Recently i began wearing a white sapphire (white for Pisces) and whilst I'm happy with the effects, I'm also uncomfortable with some flaws in the actual gem. I blame this on my recent inability to pursue some traveling, but lets see.

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

 

 

Bharat Hindu Astrology wrote:

Namaste Sri Visti

 

Can you cite some experiences where you have tried to raise the strength of Rasi through gemstones and not of the malefic grahas that the gemstone represent? Or point out a relevant article in Jyotish digest pointing out the same.

 

If you remember, in a last thread when Yellow Sapphire was suggested for Rahu in Ninth, I had specified that Yellow Sapphire just does not suit me and causes many problems. I also like Sri Sanjay Rathji to comment upon the same and share his thoughts too.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat (Anuj)

 

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Pranav, Namaskar

I'm happy that you are learning from the lectures. Btw. the mantra is normally pronounced: Om Gurave Namah|

 

 

I must ask, who is sushma gupta which your email id had written in it?

 

 

o Pratama prasna

The wearing of a blue sapphire is to make Capricorn more prominent, and thus cause the exaltation of Mars. Similarly for Venus in own sign in sixth/eighth we advise Yellow Sapphire to exalted Venus, and make Pisces more prominent.

 

 

o Dvitiiya prasna

When a kendra lord is a malefic its effects can become very auspicious in a dusthana house and form a vipareet raja yoga. This is not so for benefics. For example: Saturn in twelfth for Vrishabha lagna is an excellent Vipareet Raja Yoga, but Venus in twelfth for Capricorn lagna definitely isn't.... unless the person travels abroad.

 

 

This follows the general principle that malefics are auspicious in dusthanas, whilst benefics are auspicious in trikonas. That way Mars in twelfth for Leo lagna can prove to be a powerful raja yoga, but jealousy from others may remain due to its aspect on the sixth house from lagna.

 

 

o Tritiiya prasna

There could be various reasons to advise a gemstone for the ninth house. If rahu is joined the ninth house or lord, or aspecting, then no doubt a yellow sapphire should be worn... no matter the position of Jupiter.. In fact, if such a gemstone is not advised the luck of the person simply won't start. Instead the person will be running in circles.

 

 

Now, if in a case the lord of the ninth house lords an inauspicious house, and is ALSO placed in it, we have a problem. Example: for Aries lagna, Jupiter in twelfth can cause separation from father, as it is also ninth lord. In such cases only advise the gemstone if absolutely necessary to avoid a greater evil (rahu, saturn, etc).

 

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

 

 

sushmagupta51 wrote:

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Dear Visti ji, Namaskar!

I had an opportunity to listen to your lectures on Gem stones, First of all I will like to thank you for doing the informative lecture. It cleared a lot of doubts.

I have a couple of Qns:

1. Prescription of Blue sapphire :

 

You mention for :

- Aries/Scorpio Ascendant if Mars is in 8H/6H OR

- Taurus/Libra Ascendant if Ve in (6H/8H) recommend Blue sapphire.

a. However Aries is sign of debilitation of Saturn, moreover it is also a Badhakesh. Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

b. Also Taurus/Libra Asc what if Saturn is placed in bad house like 6H or 8H.

e.g. - Taurus asc – Venus and Saturn (exalted in 6H) in Libra, Is Blue sapphire still recommended?

 

 

2. Strengthening 9th Lord:

 

Is it advisable to strengthen 9th Lord if it alongside owns one of the malefic houses - 3,6,8,11,12?

e.g. - Aries Asc Ju lords (9,12) houses

Cancer Asc Ju lords (6,9) houses

Let me know when you get a moment.

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

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Dear , Namaskar

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com