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RR

 

, Prakash Chandra

<prakashchandra2357 wrote:

>

> To RohiniRanjanji ,

> Thank you so much for the

Appreciation. Specifically , I liked the First Line of your mail.

The Quote in the Paragraph ( Regarding Water ) was definitely

worth reading and true to its core.

>

> Thanking you once again for reading and replying to my mails :

Mukti Sood.

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

> Your sincere words were truly appreciated.

>

> I am glad the turmoil has settled down in the forum again. Unless the

> water becomes still, it loses its transparency and it is not possible

> to see what lies at the bottom of the lake!

>

> RR

>

> , Prakash Chandra

> <prakashchandra2357@> wrote:

> >

> > To RohiniRanjanji ,

> > Thank you for your Views. I have

> Loved Reading them. For my Ideas , I just wanted to say that

> Every science in this world has its Place. Whether it is

> AstroPhysics , Economics , Physics , etc . , they all have thier

> Place and Importance in this Universe and Without them , the Universe

> cannot move. However and But , I have always Noticed that

> Astrology as a Science has been given a Step ( not so Important )

> Treatment. I am a Firm Believer in the Fact that every

> Science has Importance in Human Life and that was why it was

> Created. Our Ancestors made them for some Reason and worked

> very hard to make them and they were made for a Reason. ( Maybe ,

> Leave on People to decide that. )

> >

> > Now , for Destiny and Astrology , I have Read

> and thoroughly liked your Views. I specifically believe the

> Fact that you had written down : -------- Todays Destiny has to be

> the Free will of Yesterdays deeds . Ofcourse Destiny is Shaped

> and Formed by our Today and Yeasterdays Deeds. My Idea is that

> though destiny is Pre Decided and Influenced by our Today and

> Yesterdays Deeds , yet Astrology , in its own way , Effects

> Destiny by Chanellising the Todays Deeds of the Person in a Proper

> Direction. I think the Remedies ( as given by Astrologers ) are

> for making our Life Better and thus also Infuencing our Life and

> Destiny.

> >

> > Now for Charts , I am not an Astrologer.

> Infact , I am answering this mail only on the Basis of my Observation

> of Astrology and the Behaviour of the People towards this

> Science. Moreover , I thought , it was a very general

> Example. Still , from my Little Knowledge , I can say that it

> takes more than one Chart to analyse any Person's Life and Ofcourse

> the Complications that come with Multiple Charts are a part of

> Astrology and Astrologers.

> >

> > I also Guess that Shri B.V. Raman is Right about

> Astrology being the Science of Tendencies. It is the Tendency

> of the Human Beings to be able to control thier Destiny though also

> remaining Free will. And , Astrology ( As People Believe ) , helps

> them in doing so ( by doing Remedies for better Future and

> Present ).

> >

> > Also , you are very right that Destiny is the Result

> of our Personal actions of today and my Idea is that People tend to

> make thier Destiny good by doing Certain Deeds in Present ( Also ,

> they take the help of astrology in doing so ).

> >

> > By the Way , RohiniRanjanji , Each word in your

> mail was worth Reading and had a Meaning in it. Since , I donot

> belong to the Field of Astrology , so it was tough for me to

> Understand your mail. I Hope that My Mistakes will be Forgiven

> and any corrections are most welcome from your Side. ( Also , I

> am only " 1979 : Born. Too young for all this , I guess. )

> >

> > From : --------- Mukti Sood ( my Real Name ).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > Prakash ji,

> >

> > If I may add a few thoughts. The issue as I see it is not whether

> > there is destiny operating or not and whether astrology can

> > accurately read destiny. Both are true.

> >

> > But then we must dig a bit deeper and I hope my words are not taken

> > as sceptical or sarcastic or challenging anyone's belief or

> personal

> > experience.

> >

> > The deeper part comes when (any) astrologer tries to take just one

> > chart and try to see all the events in that chart. Sooner or later

> > the realization comes that not all events fit the astrological

> > patterns. At this point the technical factors begin to play a role

> > and some begin to tweak ayanamsha and others use different factors

> or

> > perspectives or even types of divination (astrology is just one).

> On

> > the one hand, this increases the 'hits' but also bring in

> confounding

> > factors.

> >

> > Then when that one expands his repertoire and begins to look at

> many

> > events or traits in many charts and tries to fit those, again it

> > becomes apparent that though there are many hits there are some or

> > even many misses. Rather than blaming the astrologer or astrology,

> > some individuals begin to become aware of an additional factor.

> > Perhaps this is why Astrologer of the stature of Shri B.V. Raman

> had

> > publicly stated that astrology is a science of tendencies. Tendency

> > for what? Perhaps for being responsive to destiny while not

> > completely absolving some degree of freedom of choice. It is true

> > that not all will be able to exercise the free-will as much as

> others

> > and so we can have different levels of or proportions of destiny

> and

> > free will operating in individual lives.

> >

> > No one has to believe in that or accept that and if one feels that

> > destiny is supreme (even though today's destiny has to be a free-

> will

> > chosen deed from yesterday!) then as we can see there arises a

> > problem.

> >

> > If we are responsible for our destiny, then at the root of it has

> to

> > be a deed which we performed by personal choice. If there was

> > personal choice back then when the deed was done which now we are

> > facing as our current destiny, then certainly there must be deeds

> we

> > are capable of doing today which will create destiny for tomorrow

> > (next lifetimes).

> >

> > ON THE OTHER HAND, if we are not responsible for our destiny and

> > there is no existence of freedom of choice or free-will, then the

> > creation kind of loses its point and becomes chaotic. That in my

> view

> > would be taking a giant step backwards, all the way back to the

> caves!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Prakash Chandra

> > <prakashchandra2357@> wrote:

> > >

> > > To all who are discussing this example by " Jagdish " ,

> > >

> > >

> > > I must say one thing that by giving the example of " the

> > Judge " , Jagdish has himself Proved that the Astrology is

> > absolutely right and Correct to its core. The " wonder Boy "

> > Predicted the Tenure of the Judge to be 7 years and so it was.

> > So , what is wrong with Astrology and Predictions ? If such a

> > correct Prediction was given , then why DOUBT Astrology. Please

> > make me Understand that. Also , from my experience with Astrology

> > ( and I have to say that I have the Least Experience of this

> > Science ) I can say that under such a Circumstances , after the

> > Prediction proves right , the Family Members and the Relatives of

> the

> > Person ( " the Judge " ) themselves come to the Astrologer ( "

> Wonder

> > Boy " ) and Congratulate him on the Correctness of his

> > Prediction.

> > > As for the Death is Concerned , it is

> > rightly said that Nobody knows the Exact time of it. Regarding

> > the Statement " there is nothing in Human Hands " , it is very

> > true. Over here , let me Differentiate between Astrology and

> > Destiny / Fate ( " there is nothing in Human Hands " ).

> > ASTROLOGY PREDICTS THE DESTINY AND DESTINY IS SOMETHING WHICH IS

> > BOUND TO HAPPEN. DESTINY IS FUTURE AND ASTROLOGY PREDICTS THIS

> > FUTURE ( DESTINY ).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > What gave you the idea that I want to 'spread'

> > astrology :-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "upaoakcrest"

> > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Just one example,

> > > >

> > > > Book

> > > >

> > > > "Learn Successful Predictive Techniques of Hindu Astrology" by

> K.

> > > N. Rao

> > > >

> > > > Topic: Mr. Nagendra Singh.

> > > >

> > > > Page Number 60

> > > >

> > > > Point 3 in that page.

> > > >

> > > > A wonder boy predicted that Mr. Nagendra Singh will get elected

> > for

> > > > "Judge" post. He will stay in that position for 7 years.

> > > >

> > > > The position is for 9 years. So legally he should stay for 9

> > years.

> > > It

> > > > appears that the wonder boy made a wrong prediction.

> > > >

> > > > BUT

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Nagendra Singh died after 7 years.

> > > >

> > > > I have hundreds of examples like this.

> > > >

> > > > It again proved that there is nothing in humans hand.

> > > >

> > > > Whatever is in the horoscope will happen. And then people are

> > STUPID

> > > > but this stupidity is good at least they are comfortable. If

> they

> > > will

> > > > know the accuracy of astrology then many will go insane.

> > > >

> > > > Why do you want to spread astrology, RR Ji ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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