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Jagdish,

I have said this a few times here and else where astrology is a route map to a few destinations it doesn't take u or force u to go any point, but in case u want to go some where it takes u there and just as the map is restricted to PLACE or few places so is a horoscope, the different roads to reach any point in a map is pure choice, ecconimics and whatever u may want to do along the path club a few tasks etc can give u more options to seek a few routes.

 

THERE I SNO BIND HERE

 

AND IN MAHA BHARATHA WHEN BHISMHA wanted to join Vanprastha team being led by Veda Vyasa [team being his step mothers, other elders of the Kurus] and he was old by then Veda vyasa said u r still bound by ur duties here and one with Iccha mrityu so will remain young and have more to do here in this world. Bhishma asked him is it predestined, can he cange it etc.

 

for which Vedya vyasa said it is 50 % fate, and 50% free will so our choice is making best use of the free will as close to the extent possible, which the horoscope can read for u

wat u can't change u accept anyway.say head ache u can take some medication and a refier in hrs or days

but ulcers some treatment, cancer more but pain as long as it does boththe pocket , body and life around them.

all these the horoscope can give u. a picture u can plan savings or insurances etc this is free will u can let urself drift and suffer also.

 

I hope the main point is conveyed here. I did in a modest way neither my language nor scriptural backgound is deep enogh.

 

thanks

Prashant

 

 

Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest > wrote: Respected Sir

 

You are so right.

 

Now at least you can understand that why Astrology is absurd and useless after a point.

 

Thanks for that.

 

Regarding Pessimism, its the outcome of my horoscope. I am a slave of my horoscope and suffering because of it. Some intelligent people says that horoscope is the account of your past lives' good and bad karma.

 

Now question comes, i am suffering because of my past life karma. But still i dont know what were those karma ? I am being punished through my horoscope for those sins/crimes which i am not aware of.

 

In U.S. , a person cant be executed if he is not aware of his crimes. I am not aware of my past life crime/sins yet i am being executed.

 

Isn't God (if exist), a psychopath ?

 

Best

 

Jagdish

 

atma_gnan <atma_gnan > wrote: Dear Jagdish

I find your perception of Jyotish to be fascinating, although

somewhat pessimistic!

Indeed the tools of jyotish in the hands of those able to utilise

them to thier potential are immensley powerful- but very few such

Jyotishis exist, and even if jyotish was to reaveal ones fate the

faith required to persist with a dilligent effort in altering it

exceeds the capacity of most mortals.

Just as very few attain moksha/salvation, despite the shastras

prescribing clear guidelines regarding the manner in which to

perform karmas and devote life to God. Faith here despite an acute

awareness of the accuarcy and validity of spiritual science(and the

reactions that one must suffer from negative karmas) is not powerful

enough to prevent rebirth for the majority.

From what you are saying any doctrine that deals with karmas,

destiny, fate and re-birth is 'disgusting' but then this is reality

as it is, how it was and how it always will be. Efforts to spread

such models of fate are counterted by the force of maya, which , in

the age of Kali will prove victorious.

So insanity for the world's populace in the context you have

mentioned is an impossiblity.

Insanity where life is lived simply for the immedaite short term(

i.e this life) for the pleasure of the sensnes and solely for the

upkeep of the family, howver, is prevelant.

, "upaoakcrest"

<upaoakcrest wrote:

>

> Just one example,

>

> Book

>

> "Learn Successful Predictive Techniques of Hindu Astrology" by K.

N. Rao

>

> Topic: Mr. Nagendra Singh.

>

> Page Number 60

>

> Point 3 in that page.

>

> A wonder boy predicted that Mr. Nagendra Singh will get elected for

> "Judge" post. He will stay in that position for 7 years.

>

> The position is for 9 years. So legally he should stay for 9

years. It

> appears that the wonder boy made a wrong prediction.

>

> BUT

>

>

> Mr. Nagendra Singh died after 7 years.

>

> I have hundreds of examples like this.

>

> It again proved that there is nothing in humans hand.

>

> Whatever is in the horoscope will happen. And then people are

STUPID

> but this stupidity is good at least they are comfortable. If they

will

> know the accuracy of astrology then many will go insane.

>

> Why do you want to spread astrology, RR Ji ?

>

>

> Best

>

> Jagdish

>

 

 

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