Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja at sri kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja has to be performed to get relief regards Prasad BD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja at sri > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja has to > be performed to get relief > regards > Prasad BD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Prasad, There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were created to create panic among ppl.... The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma how many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which one to be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga(A new yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa Yoga but successful in all aspects)... Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! Thanq Gaurav http://gauravastro.150m.com , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > , "prasadbd1000" > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja at sri > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja has > to > > be performed to get relief > > regards > > Prasad BD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Kindly send your problem in detail to us . we have just joined this jotish club. please e-mail me on ; sn_sharmapn (AT) (DOT) co.in or at +919414339728 , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > , "prasadbd1000" > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja at sri > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja has > to > > be performed to get relief > > regards > > Prasad BD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Dear Prasad, Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of the Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts and only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and unless it is exceptionally strong. Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the clients about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good for whole life time. Regards, Neeraj wrote: ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Prasad, There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were created to create panic among ppl.... The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma how many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which one to be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga(A new yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa Yoga but successful in all aspects)... Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! Thanq Gaurav http://gauravastro.150m.com , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > , "prasadbd1000" > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja at sri > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja has > to > > be performed to get relief > > regards > > Prasad BD > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Dear friends Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice of a native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as astrology students or practitioners must not call their other fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they don't believe this yoga in their knowledge. I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those astrologers who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the following FACTS: 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar observation from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the ancient astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have been narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in his book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri sanjay rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic astrologers. 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written dozens of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native undergoes and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading astrologers of high reputation and their book names. 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned a native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written about ksy in their readings in this group. 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other groups mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in his readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which remain facts). Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics but still many reputed astrologers advocate them. Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various messages believing mangal dosha. Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the ancient clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is mentioned and found true by many astrologers. Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the classics shall not be a bane to the research established and accepted over decades. The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the kalahasti temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you call these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and quacks? Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various sarpa doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in the ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS AND SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga or dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and suggest remedies as quacks and cheats. With best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > Dear Prasad, > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of the Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts and only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and unless it is exceptionally strong. > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the clients about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good for whole life time. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > <gg_0202 wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Prasad, > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were created > to create panic among ppl.... > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma how > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which one to > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga(A new > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa Yoga > but successful in all aspects)... > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > Thanq > Gaurav > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > , "prasadbd1000" > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja at > sri > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja > has > > to > > > be performed to get relief > > > regards > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 , "sn_sharmapn" <sn_sharmapn wrote: > dear sir I was born on 7Th October 1955 at Sompeta, 18N58 84E39 at 9:13 PM . Since I left my job on 29th JULY 1998 I am in severe financial distress. Please me know how/ When I can improve my financial position.Also Please advise me which field is suitable for me to pursue as self employed professional. When will my marital life would improve Regards Prasad BD > Kindly send your problem in detail to us . we have just joined this > jotish club. > > please e-mail me on > ; sn_sharmapn or at +919414339728 > , "prasadbd1000" > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja at > sri > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja > has > > to > > > be performed to get relief > > > regards > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear sir You have not answred my question Regards Prasad BD , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > Dear friends > > Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice of a > native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as > astrology students or practitioners must not call their other > fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they don't > believe this yoga in their knowledge. > > I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those astrologers > who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the > following FACTS: > > 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar observation > from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. > > 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the ancient > astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have been > narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in his > book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri sanjay > rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic > astrologers. > > 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written dozens > of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native undergoes > and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading > astrologers of high reputation and their book names. > > 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned a > native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their > readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not > required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written > about ksy in their readings in this group. > > 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other groups > mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in his > readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which remain > facts). > > Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga > daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics but > still many reputed astrologers advocate them. > > Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient > classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all > matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for > mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various messages > believing mangal dosha. > > Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the ancient > clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. > > Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is mentioned > and found true by many astrologers. > > Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the > classics shall not be a bane to the research established and accepted > over decades. > > The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the kalahasti > temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for > several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you call > these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and quacks? > > Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various sarpa > doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in the > ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa > shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS AND > SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. > > You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga or > dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and suggest > remedies as quacks and cheats. > > With best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , Neeraj Gupta > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of the > Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts and > only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and unless > it is exceptionally strong. > > > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the clients > about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is > somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good for > whole life time. > > > > Regards, > > > > Neeraj > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Prasad, > > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were created > > to create panic among ppl.... > > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma how > > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which one > to > > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga(A > new > > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa Yoga > > but successful in all aspects)... > > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > > Thanq > > Gaurav > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana puja > at > > sri > > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana puja > > has > > > to > > > > be performed to get relief > > > > regards > > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > email and get things done faster. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 dear friend based on your birth details of 07.10.1955, sompeta, 2113 hours, you have sampoorn kalasarpa yoga (half blind chart) with ketu in the ascendant and rahu in the seventh house and all other seven planets placed between 2nd and 6th houses. other than this, you are also running the last leg of sadesathi which shall be over in july, 2007. till then worshipping lord shiva will help you. as a remedy you may observe fastings on mondays (only during daytime) and also offer milk as abhishekam to a shivling at any shiva temple near your place. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > Dear sir > You have not answred my question > Regards > Prasad BD > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends > > > > Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice of > a > > native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as > > astrology students or practitioners must not call their other > > fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they > don't > > believe this yoga in their knowledge. > > > > I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those astrologers > > who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the > > following FACTS: > > > > 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar > observation > > from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. > > > > 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the ancient > > astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have > been > > narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in > his > > book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri > sanjay > > rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic > > astrologers. > > > > 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written > dozens > > of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native undergoes > > and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading > > astrologers of high reputation and their book names. > > > > 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned > a > > native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their > > readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not > > required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written > > about ksy in their readings in this group. > > > > 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other > groups > > mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in > his > > readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which > remain > > facts). > > > > Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga > > daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics > but > > still many reputed astrologers advocate them. > > > > Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient > > classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all > > matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for > > mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various > messages > > believing mangal dosha. > > > > Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the > ancient > > clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. > > > > Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is > mentioned > > and found true by many astrologers. > > > > Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the > > classics shall not be a bane to the research established and > accepted > > over decades. > > > > The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the kalahasti > > temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for > > several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you > call > > these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and > quacks? > > > > Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various > sarpa > > doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in the > > ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa > > shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS > AND > > SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. > > > > You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga or > > dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and > suggest > > remedies as quacks and cheats. > > > > With best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , Neeraj Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of > the > > Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts > and > > only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and > unless > > it is exceptionally strong. > > > > > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the > clients > > about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is > > somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good for > > whole life time. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Prasad, > > > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were > created > > > to create panic among ppl.... > > > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma > how > > > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which > one > > to > > > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga (A > > new > > > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa > Yoga > > > but successful in all aspects)... > > > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > > > Thanq > > > Gaurav > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana > puja > > at > > > sri > > > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana > puja > > > has > > > > to > > > > > be performed to get relief > > > > > regards > > > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear Arjun Ji and other fellow members, First of all, I would like to clarify that I did not intend to said quacks / cheats to any of the fellow members or professional astrologers who believe in KSY / KAY. It is only that some people or pundits they scare the clients by telling KSY in chart even if the problem is of some other source. I have experienced this myself. As when, I knew nothing about astrology, some pundits told my parents that I have KSY in my chart and they took lot of money for pooja / hawan etc. and there were no improvement. Similarly, two three pundits told that they cannot tell about pooja done by others and insisted about performing pooja from them and charged again. Then I met one good astrologer and he told me that this is due to saturn's dasha and sadhesati running and told me some simple and practical remedies that actually helped. I have seen some persons those who do not have good knowledge of astrology and whenever any body goes to them for consultation, they will just tell almost everybody that they KSY or they will tell that somebody has done black magic on you and they charge heavily 12,000 to 30,000. I call those people as quacks. If I have hurted anybody's feelings unintentionally due to my post, I apologize for that. Yes, you are absolutely correct that in some of my previous readings, I have mentioned about KSY / KAY in charts. But, with some experience and some added knowledge over last one and a half year, I have found that in most of the cases, the problem is due to some other planet instead of KSY. Also, I have not found this yoga in any of the ancient classics. I may be wrong here and If there is any reference to this yoga in any of the classics (or if there is any good research article regarding this) please let me know so that I can learn it. Again, I would like to re-emphasize that I meant quacks / frauds for only those people who misguide the natives just to earn money by telling them lies, frightening them and most of these people call themseleves purohits/pundits/astrologers etc. Regards, Neeraj panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear friend based on your birth details of 07.10.1955, sompeta, 2113 hours, you have sampoorn kalasarpa yoga (half blind chart) with ketu in the ascendant and rahu in the seventh house and all other seven planets placed between 2nd and 6th houses. other than this, you are also running the last leg of sadesathi which shall be over in july, 2007. till then worshipping lord shiva will help you. as a remedy you may observe fastings on mondays (only during daytime) and also offer milk as abhishekam to a shivling at any shiva temple near your place. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > Dear sir > You have not answred my question > Regards > Prasad BD > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends > > > > Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice of > a > > native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as > > astrology students or practitioners must not call their other > > fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they > don't > > believe this yoga in their knowledge. > > > > I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those astrologers > > who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the > > following FACTS: > > > > 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar > observation > > from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. > > > > 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the ancient > > astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have > been > > narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in > his > > book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri > sanjay > > rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic > > astrologers. > > > > 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written > dozens > > of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native undergoes > > and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading > > astrologers of high reputation and their book names. > > > > 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned > a > > native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their > > readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not > > required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written > > about ksy in their readings in this group. > > > > 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other > groups > > mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in > his > > readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which > remain > > facts). > > > > Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga > > daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics > but > > still many reputed astrologers advocate them. > > > > Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient > > classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all > > matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for > > mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various > messages > > believing mangal dosha. > > > > Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the > ancient > > clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. > > > > Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is > mentioned > > and found true by many astrologers. > > > > Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the > > classics shall not be a bane to the research established and > accepted > > over decades. > > > > The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the kalahasti > > temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for > > several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you > call > > these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and > quacks? > > > > Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various > sarpa > > doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in the > > ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa > > shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS > AND > > SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. > > > > You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga or > > dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and > suggest > > remedies as quacks and cheats. > > > > With best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , Neeraj Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of > the > > Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts > and > > only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and > unless > > it is exceptionally strong. > > > > > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the > clients > > about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is > > somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good for > > whole life time. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Prasad, > > > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were > created > > > to create panic among ppl.... > > > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma > how > > > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which > one > > to > > > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga (A > > new > > > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa > Yoga > > > but successful in all aspects)... > > > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > > > Thanq > > > Gaurav > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana > puja > > at > > > sri > > > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana > puja > > > has > > > > to > > > > > be performed to get relief > > > > > regards > > > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 dear neeraj ji sorry to hear about your bad experiences with few astrologers on the ksy front. unfortunately FEW rotten fruits find thier place in all trees and so are bad elements in all professions and astrology is no exception. like i mentioned earlier, kalasarpa dosham by its name does not find any mention in the original classics. so are grahanayoga, manglik yoga, neechabhangarajayoga, uchhabhangadaridrayoga, vipareeta rajayoga etc. i may believe some yoga or dosham which you may not believe. we both are right in our own ways as astrology in itself is a matter of faith and belief. the scientific reasoning of how eclipses are formed is mentioned in the school books and everyone knows it. still there are crores of people who believe rahu swallowing sun and ketu swallowing moon respectively in the solar and lunar eclipses and also perform poojas, chant mantras and cover themselves. such is the strong belief that ALL HINDU TEMPLES are closed during the eclipse and the gods (dieties) are covered with a cloth and an umbrella to ensure that the shadow of rahu/ketu does not fall during eclipse. a half blind chart has its own disadvantages theoretically even if we dont call it ksy. several planets will be in combustion, enemies in conjunction, placed 12th to others, several houses not occupied by their lords or devoid of benefic aspects etc. all researchers were anonymous in saying that this ksy is not a dreaded scare as such but it makes the native struggle and earn things in a hard way. since we are not any appointed ombudsman type clergys to criticise the bad elements in any profession, our objective of contributions in these groups is ONLY TO SHARE KNOWLEDGE ON ASTROLOGY and we shall not bother about those bad elements and leave it to their bad karmas. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > Dear Arjun Ji and other fellow members, > > First of all, I would like to clarify that I did not intend to said quacks / cheats to any of the fellow members or professional astrologers who believe in KSY / KAY. It is only that some people or pundits they scare the clients by telling KSY in chart even if the problem is of some other source. > > I have experienced this myself. As when, I knew nothing about astrology, some pundits told my parents that I have KSY in my chart and they took lot of money for pooja / hawan etc. and there were no improvement. Similarly, two three pundits told that they cannot tell about pooja done by others and insisted about performing pooja from them and charged again. > > Then I met one good astrologer and he told me that this is due to saturn's dasha and sadhesati running and told me some simple and practical remedies that actually helped. > > I have seen some persons those who do not have good knowledge of astrology and whenever any body goes to them for consultation, they will just tell almost everybody that they KSY or they will tell that somebody has done black magic on you and they charge heavily 12,000 to 30,000. I call those people as quacks. If I have hurted anybody's feelings unintentionally due to my post, I apologize for that. > > Yes, you are absolutely correct that in some of my previous readings, I have mentioned about KSY / KAY in charts. But, with some experience and some added knowledge over last one and a half year, I have found that in most of the cases, the problem is due to some other planet instead of KSY. Also, I have not found this yoga in any of the ancient classics. I may be wrong here and If there is any reference to this yoga in any of the classics (or if there is any good research article regarding this) please let me know so that I can learn it. > > Again, I would like to re-emphasize that I meant quacks / frauds for only those people who misguide the natives just to earn money by telling them lies, frightening them and most of these people call themseleves purohits/pundits/astrologers etc. > > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear friend > > based on your birth details of 07.10.1955, sompeta, 2113 hours, you > have sampoorn kalasarpa yoga (half blind chart) with ketu in the > ascendant and rahu in the seventh house and all other seven planets > placed between 2nd and 6th houses. > > other than this, you are also running the last leg of sadesathi which > shall be over in july, 2007. till then worshipping lord shiva will > help you. as a remedy you may observe fastings on mondays (only > during daytime) and also offer milk as abhishekam to a shivling at > any shiva temple near your place. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , "prasadbd1000" > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > Dear sir > > You have not answred my question > > Regards > > Prasad BD > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends > > > > > > Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice > of > > a > > > native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as > > > astrology students or practitioners must not call their other > > > fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they > > don't > > > believe this yoga in their knowledge. > > > > > > I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those > astrologers > > > who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the > > > following FACTS: > > > > > > 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar > > observation > > > from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. > > > > > > 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the > ancient > > > astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have > > been > > > narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in > > his > > > book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri > > sanjay > > > rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic > > > astrologers. > > > > > > 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written > > dozens > > > of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native > undergoes > > > and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading > > > astrologers of high reputation and their book names. > > > > > > 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned > > a > > > native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their > > > readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not > > > required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written > > > about ksy in their readings in this group. > > > > > > 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other > > groups > > > mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in > > his > > > readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which > > remain > > > facts). > > > > > > Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga > > > daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics > > but > > > still many reputed astrologers advocate them. > > > > > > Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient > > > classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all > > > matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for > > > mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various > > messages > > > believing mangal dosha. > > > > > > Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the > > ancient > > > clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. > > > > > > Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is > > mentioned > > > and found true by many astrologers. > > > > > > Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the > > > classics shall not be a bane to the research established and > > accepted > > > over decades. > > > > > > The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the > kalahasti > > > temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for > > > several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you > > call > > > these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and > > quacks? > > > > > > Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various > > sarpa > > > doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in > the > > > ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa > > > shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS > > AND > > > SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. > > > > > > You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga > or > > > dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and > > suggest > > > remedies as quacks and cheats. > > > > > > With best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > , Neeraj Gupta > > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > > > > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of > > the > > > Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts > > and > > > only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and > > unless > > > it is exceptionally strong. > > > > > > > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the > > clients > > > about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is > > > somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good > for > > > whole life time. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were > > created > > > > to create panic among ppl.... > > > > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma > > how > > > > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which > > one > > > to > > > > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga > (A > > > new > > > > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa > > Yoga > > > > but successful in all aspects)... > > > > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > > > > Thanq > > > > Gaurav > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana > > puja > > > at > > > > sri > > > > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana > > puja > > > > has > > > > > to > > > > > > be performed to get relief > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more > powerful > > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Mr. Arjun I agree with you. Best wishes RS Global Astrologers - Neeraj Gupta Monday, December 18, 2006 6:55 PM Re: Re: kalasarpa dosham Dear Arjun Ji and other fellow members, First of all, I would like to clarify that I did not intend to said quacks / cheats to any of the fellow members or professional astrologers who believe in KSY / KAY. It is only that some people or pundits they scare the clients by telling KSY in chart even if the problem is of some other source. I have experienced this myself. As when, I knew nothing about astrology, some pundits told my parents that I have KSY in my chart and they took lot of money for pooja / hawan etc. and there were no improvement. Similarly, two three pundits told that they cannot tell about pooja done by others and insisted about performing pooja from them and charged again. Then I met one good astrologer and he told me that this is due to saturn's dasha and sadhesati running and told me some simple and practical remedies that actually helped. I have seen some persons those who do not have good knowledge of astrology and whenever any body goes to them for consultation, they will just tell almost everybody that they KSY or they will tell that somebody has done black magic on you and they charge heavily 12,000 to 30,000. I call those people as quacks. If I have hurted anybody's feelings unintentionally due to my post, I apologize for that. Yes, you are absolutely correct that in some of my previous readings, I have mentioned about KSY / KAY in charts. But, with some experience and some added knowledge over last one and a half year, I have found that in most of the cases, the problem is due to some other planet instead of KSY. Also, I have not found this yoga in any of the ancient classics. I may be wrong here and If there is any reference to this yoga in any of the classics (or if there is any good research article regarding this) please let me know so that I can learn it. Again, I would like to re-emphasize that I meant quacks / frauds for only those people who misguide the natives just to earn money by telling them lies, frightening them and most of these people call themseleves purohits/pundits/astrologers etc. Regards, Neeraj panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear friend based on your birth details of 07.10.1955, sompeta, 2113 hours, you have sampoorn kalasarpa yoga (half blind chart) with ketu in the ascendant and rahu in the seventh house and all other seven planets placed between 2nd and 6th houses. other than this, you are also running the last leg of sadesathi which shall be over in july, 2007. till then worshipping lord shiva will help you. as a remedy you may observe fastings on mondays (only during daytime) and also offer milk as abhishekam to a shivling at any shiva temple near your place. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > Dear sir > You have not answred my question > Regards > Prasad BD > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends > > > > Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice of > a > > native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as > > astrology students or practitioners must not call their other > > fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they > don't > > believe this yoga in their knowledge. > > > > I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those astrologers > > who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the > > following FACTS: > > > > 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar > observation > > from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. > > > > 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the ancient > > astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have > been > > narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in > his > > book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri > sanjay > > rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic > > astrologers. > > > > 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written > dozens > > of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native undergoes > > and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading > > astrologers of high reputation and their book names. > > > > 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned > a > > native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their > > readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not > > required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written > > about ksy in their readings in this group. > > > > 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other > groups > > mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in > his > > readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which > remain > > facts). > > > > Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga > > daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics > but > > still many reputed astrologers advocate them. > > > > Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient > > classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all > > matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for > > mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various > messages > > believing mangal dosha. > > > > Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the > ancient > > clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. > > > > Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is > mentioned > > and found true by many astrologers. > > > > Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the > > classics shall not be a bane to the research established and > accepted > > over decades. > > > > The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the kalahasti > > temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for > > several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you > call > > these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and > quacks? > > > > Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various > sarpa > > doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in the > > ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa > > shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS > AND > > SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. > > > > You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga or > > dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and > suggest > > remedies as quacks and cheats. > > > > With best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , Neeraj Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of > the > > Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts > and > > only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and > unless > > it is exceptionally strong. > > > > > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the > clients > > about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is > > somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good for > > whole life time. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Prasad, > > > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were > created > > > to create panic among ppl.... > > > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma > how > > > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which > one > > to > > > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga (A > > new > > > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa > Yoga > > > but successful in all aspects)... > > > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > > > Thanq > > > Gaurav > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana > puja > > at > > > sri > > > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana > puja > > > has > > > > to > > > > > be performed to get relief > > > > > regards > > > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 om krishna guru, how can we check these quacks,i dont think its possible unless we take some measures .Now a days the no of quacks r increasing like anything. like swami vivekananda said" how can b there b duplicates without originals" i am member of various astro forums ,which is meant for mutual learning and everyday some new person will pop up and asking his personal questions in the name of learning astrology or i gone to many persons -i am confused approach.Only lucky ones gets reply frm good masters who can identify themselves between genuine and fake questions and the need of this gentleman.The others they r happy that they got astro reply without swaeting their eye brows .Because most of them may b using their office setup.And everything is free.like internet and computer all etc etc ..Think abt the poor creature called astrologer wat he gets ,most of the persons who got reply whether they r paying anything frm their pocket --is there is any devine law or something like that the poor astrologer shud suffer like they hav done some bad karma.People say olden days astrologers r not paid ,so its not true --those days no paper correnceis r not there and good astrologers r rewarded with gold ,land ,gems and cloths etc.U think any famous astrologers families and they may b living in palace type houses ,some even employed by kings as advisers and even ministers. The great B V Ramans ancesters were commanders in tippu sultans army and some served mysore maharajas.Once his great grand father done a havan for raja family which is under curse every alternativ generations they hav to adopt boys for future maharajas and this purticlar raja dont want this to happen and a yagna was recommended and actualy his wife conceived and a royal palaquin arrived at the astrologers house and and he was rewarded with rs 10000/- those days (some 150 years earleir -see the cost now a days)>Even all mughals they hav palace astrologers. See whats astrological scenario these days,every bodys income is ncreasing and now business houses r investing in 1000s of crores of rs in new project ,what remunaration is paid by these people who wanted to know abt the success of multi billion project .suppose pure astrologer asked some body some raise in their dakshina ,people will say that see kitna lalchi hai (see he is very greedy).Others can change their company for a raise and business man will srap his project and say not worth it .But astrologer are supposed to suffer. why am i writing this --because my next generation wont continue this line as all other feild is lucrative 1000 times .Who will come to a profession ,no social pride and no financial security. as i giv min 1 1/2 hour for a party and some times more and u calculate how many person a real astrologer can see in a day.Only very few r paying real dakshina and in other peoples mind dakshina means what u giv to beggars. So may b a real trained man cannot survive and a quack can make money in lacks a day.So quacks with their i praise u attitude and if u dont do this u r severe danger tratening and no knowledge abt sastras ,they r in winning positions.Now lot of pupil r learning astrology as hobby ,but only classicaly trained pundit can predict &advice u properly --only solution is increase ur dakshinas and giv them prachar and entertain them and persuade others also to giv good dakshinas Most of the grantas r either sold as scrap (old books in leavs ) or smuggled to foreign countries and the real heir to this treasue is sufferring. This is guru chandala yoga ,or will trigger curse frm rishis and finaly every future generation will b answerable for this curse. fight it out or perish urself. regds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > Dear Arjun Ji and other fellow members, > > First of all, I would like to clarify that I did not intend to said quacks / cheats to any of the fellow members or professional astrologers who believe in KSY / KAY. It is only that some people or pundits they scare the clients by telling KSY in chart even if the problem is of some other source. > > I have experienced this myself. As when, I knew nothing about astrology, some pundits told my parents that I have KSY in my chart and they took lot of money for pooja / hawan etc. and there were no improvement. Similarly, two three pundits told that they cannot tell about pooja done by others and insisted about performing pooja from them and charged again. > > Then I met one good astrologer and he told me that this is due to saturn's dasha and sadhesati running and told me some simple and practical remedies that actually helped. > > I have seen some persons those who do not have good knowledge of astrology and whenever any body goes to them for consultation, they will just tell almost everybody that they KSY or they will tell that somebody has done black magic on you and they charge heavily 12,000 to 30,000. I call those people as quacks. If I have hurted anybody's feelings unintentionally due to my post, I apologize for that. > > Yes, you are absolutely correct that in some of my previous readings, I have mentioned about KSY / KAY in charts. But, with some experience and some added knowledge over last one and a half year, I have found that in most of the cases, the problem is due to some other planet instead of KSY. Also, I have not found this yoga in any of the ancient classics. I may be wrong here and If there is any reference to this yoga in any of the classics (or if there is any good research article regarding this) please let me know so that I can learn it. > > Again, I would like to re-emphasize that I meant quacks / frauds for only those people who misguide the natives just to earn money by telling them lies, frightening them and most of these people call themseleves purohits/pundits/astrologers etc. > > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > > > panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear friend > > based on your birth details of 07.10.1955, sompeta, 2113 hours, you > have sampoorn kalasarpa yoga (half blind chart) with ketu in the > ascendant and rahu in the seventh house and all other seven planets > placed between 2nd and 6th houses. > > other than this, you are also running the last leg of sadesathi which > shall be over in july, 2007. till then worshipping lord shiva will > help you. as a remedy you may observe fastings on mondays (only > during daytime) and also offer milk as abhishekam to a shivling at > any shiva temple near your place. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , "prasadbd1000" > prasadbd1000@ wrote: > > > > Dear sir > > You have not answred my question > > Regards > > Prasad BD > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends > > > > > > Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice > of > > a > > > native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as > > > astrology students or practitioners must not call their other > > > fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they > > don't > > > believe this yoga in their knowledge. > > > > > > I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those > astrologers > > > who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the > > > following FACTS: > > > > > > 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar > > observation > > > from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. > > > > > > 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the > ancient > > > astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have > > been > > > narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in > > his > > > book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri > > sanjay > > > rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic > > > astrologers. > > > > > > 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written > > dozens > > > of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native > undergoes > > > and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading > > > astrologers of high reputation and their book names. > > > > > > 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned > > a > > > native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their > > > readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not > > > required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written > > > about ksy in their readings in this group. > > > > > > 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other > > groups > > > mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in > > his > > > readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which > > remain > > > facts). > > > > > > Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga > > > daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics > > but > > > still many reputed astrologers advocate them. > > > > > > Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient > > > classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all > > > matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for > > > mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various > > messages > > > believing mangal dosha. > > > > > > Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the > > ancient > > > clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. > > > > > > Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is > > mentioned > > > and found true by many astrologers. > > > > > > Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the > > > classics shall not be a bane to the research established and > > accepted > > > over decades. > > > > > > The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the > kalahasti > > > temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for > > > several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you > > call > > > these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and > > quacks? > > > > > > Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various > > sarpa > > > doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in > the > > > ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa > > > shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS > > AND > > > SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. > > > > > > You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga > or > > > dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and > > suggest > > > remedies as quacks and cheats. > > > > > > With best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > , Neeraj Gupta > > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > > > > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of > > the > > > Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts > > and > > > only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and > > unless > > > it is exceptionally strong. > > > > > > > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the > > clients > > > about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is > > > somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good > for > > > whole life time. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were > > created > > > > to create panic among ppl.... > > > > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma > > how > > > > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which > > one > > > to > > > > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga > (A > > > new > > > > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa > > Yoga > > > > but successful in all aspects)... > > > > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > > > > Thanq > > > > Gaurav > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana > > puja > > > at > > > > sri > > > > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana > > puja > > > > has > > > > > to > > > > > > be performed to get relief > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more > powerful > > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 All Respected members of the group, I am a new member of the group and right in the begining I have come across a series of message on Kal Sharp Yogam in jyotish. Dear Gourav ji, Namaskar. I request you to read it please I dont think it is compulsory that we should abide by the yogas and their names mentioned in ancient granthas. Every astrologers has to study a number of jataks in his carrier and his work is something more than that of telling the yogas and their effects mentioned in the books. If I am granted, let me tell you that study of astrology means study of particular situation of planets and other celestial bodies that effects or affects the universe along with all concious and un concious beings in it. Very unfortunately the astrologers have taken it to study the books, make general prediction on the clients and by suggesting remedies to them they find it all over of their duties. May I ask a question mr. Gouravji MOON - Chandrama is not a planet as science has proved it. It is a setelite i.e. Sub planet of Earth. But we are still taking chandra for planet. I dont know you believe it or not but scientists have walked over the surface of moon and they are talking about mars and jupiter for the same. But the tradition of moon worshiping may not be stoped only because of it. Moreover mantras of moon are still proving effective, that means that these mantras used conventionally are effective not only psychologically but they have scientific reasons for effect in them. Had they been effective only psychologicaly it would have showm no effect as soon as man has come to know that Niel Armstrong has walked on the moon surface. I am trying to convince you that every pooja going on as a tradition has the reasons that might be proved scientifically but for the common man the Rishies - the researchers have wrapped these in Dharmic cover.The same is with KSY Pooja as well. It has an effect over subconsious of the suffere and changes his aura to fight with the drawbacks of the goga. One more question - you would have recited your school prayer daily in the school, but have you recited the same prayer somewhere else with the same feeling? why? because the place where students get collected at a particular time of day for a particular type of work and the place exerts a particular type of energy at that particular time making people feel the power of their words and deeds. the same is the matter with the temples and pooja sthanaks as these places are constructed according to the reqirements of collection of spirutual energy and echoing of it in multiplication. I take it very unfortunate that either the Pujaries have corrupted the places or people who love logic to be used imprudently against the most tolerating hindu dharma thinking that it has no body to resist strongly pour redicule upon it. Still the importance of place is not lost because it has accumulated so much of possitivity in it that in even centuries it might not be ended. It is importance of place that millions of people get gathered at KUMBH MELA without invitation or advertisement and gain spiritual energy inspite of the corruption of fake Sadhus and Immorality of foreign visiters. Coming to BOOKS I dont have a least hesitation to say that the rich ancient knowlwdge of India has lost it's ground because we the people who call overselves schollers, the researchers and the Pandits have confined overselves in the pages of books available easily in the market and in doing so we are making a great harm to the knowledge. Had Ratherford stoped himself b'cas their was no word like Electron or Proton Or Neutron in the books of Science available at that time or if Marie Curie had stoped because their was no word like Radium or X-ray in the books, we have not been able to talk over mail like this. Think of the time when books and printing was not so easily available in our country. At that time the Jyotishies studied by their own, made a record of the yogas and given their names for their own convinience. I may have a number of situations called yogas that have no name in books but in my own studies I have seen them making creatin effect on people. Can one say that he will not believe all these yogas tested by the learned gurus and time only because they dont have a place by the same name as I know it. At last I like to request all the eminent Pandits who often say that such or such planet situated in this or that house is doing so for you or making such a harm to you, particularly The Saturn or Rahu - Ketu is doing wrong to you. Sirs. No planet does any thing for any one; rather the situation of the planet indicates the haps and mishaps in the life of the jatak and it prompts the remedied for the problems as the worshiping of that planet with mantras, ratna , herb, colour, fragrence or things like that can make a megical change and the person will be saved from the losses. So , I think, we should stop saying that such or such planet situated in this or that house is doing so for you or making such a harm to you, instead we should say that the situation of the planet indicates so and thus use the rituals related to the planet and be out of trouble or enhance the good in your life. We the Pandits and Jyotishies have to worship these NAVGRAHAS. We ought not to defame them by saying that they make harm to people. They are the Deities who show the PRARABDH of the Jatak. I dont know from where this has started but I can say that this is is the practice that has defamed Indian Astrology at the greatest. At the end - all the respectable members - VIDYA DADATI VINAYAM To be a scholar means nither to believe nor to dismiss. It is to study and on the basis of it favour or disfavour humbly. Instead of calling the names lets discuss some new yogas in Jyotish b'cas today we have a wide area for our studies, research and discussion. I will be glad to know the reaction of all the learned members of the group. Thank you very much Faithfully Yours Jyotishi Pt. Indramani Tripathi Naxatra Vijaya Jyotish & Para Vidya Anusandhan Kendra Sihora Distt. Jabalpur (M.P.) pin 483225 ph res . 07624 231651 mo. 9329587597, 9424303841 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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