Effective treatment for rheumatic heart disease/ Rheumatoid Arthritis.

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dear dr bhate and dr sp,

I SURPRISED ON YOUR KNOW HOW ABOUT RHD AND RA, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOU CLEAR THAT RHD (RHEUMATIC HEART DISEASE) IS A DEALYED SEQUELE OF STAPHALOCOCCUS INFECTION. WHICH INVOLVE HEART MAINLY PANCARDITIS .JOINTS-MIGRATING POLY ARTHRITS.AND NERVOUS SYSTEM TOO, CHOREA,AND OTHER CONTITUINAL SYMTOMS.

RA - RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMMUNOLOOGICAL DISORDER.HAVING ITS OWN CLINICAL MANIFESTATIONS.

THATS WHY BOTH HAVE DIFFERENT ETIOLOGY AND DIFFERENT LINE OF TREATMENT IN AYURVEDA.AND ALLOPATH

RHD IS NOT OUTCOME OF RA.

I HOPE YOU MAY NOT MIND, TRY TO UNDERSTAND FIRST THEN MAKE A CLAIM.

THANKING YOU

YOURS

DR H. S. RAI

M.D. (KAYACHIKITSA,) LUCKNOW

SMO

LH STATE PG AYURVEDIC COLLEGE

PILIBHIT

9412297010

Shirish Bhate <shirishbhate > wrote:

1. this author has obtained success by a combination of diet,

panchkarma and herbs.

 

2. RHD is an outcome of RA treated by immunosuppresant drugs in many

cases, see:

 

http://www.emaxhealth.com/97/8423.html

 

ayurveda, "dr_sp_singh" <dr_sp_singh

wrote:

> Has any physician successfully treated patients of established

> RHD /Rheumatoid Arthritis with Ayurvedic Medicines?

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You can put it in remission and keep it from processing any further, but you cannot reverse any deformities that it has already caused…

 

 

dr_sp_singh <dr_sp_singh (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Has any physician successfully treated patients of established

RHD /Rheumatoid Arthritis with Ayurvedic Medicines?

[Guest guest]

Cellular malfunction as a result of nutritional deficiency or toxins

(environmental, food, mental etc) is disease. Deepending on where one

sees the disese (symptoms, chemical state of blood, cells) 10,000

names by modern science. On the other hand ayurveda has very few

names, and differentiation according to doshic unbalance.

 

What is RHD, the west itself has confusion, some literature available

online, quoted below. Why one should go in that, if he can understand

what is dosha state and how to reduce the lack of equilibrium? Can

you please explain where all the infections go when simple yoga or

breathing is adopted as drugless approach.

 

We will not be able to show the truth by trying to cast ayurveda in

reductionist or rigid classifications of modern medicine. All that it

will lead to is fruitless discussions of this type. When Vagbhata

permits treatment when Vaidya understand doshas and symptoms without

even having classified the disease name, Vaidya should go ahead.

Secondly, when someone says he has treated a disease X (as defined by

modern medicine) it means patient had disease X as defined by his

previous allopathic consultation.

 

Thanks for clearing our misconceptions.

 

This author would request the discussion from your side in terms of

ayurvedic correlations of RHD, why it is incurable etc We would like

sharing your knowledge, not receive just UPPER CASE EAR PINCH.

 

 

 

ayurveda, hs rai <drhsrai wrote:

>

> dear dr bhate and dr sp,

>

> I SURPRISED ON YOUR KNOW HOW ABOUT RHD AND RA, I WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE YOU CLEAR THAT RHD (RHEUMATIC HEART DISEASE) IS A DEALYED

SEQUELE OF STAPHALOCOCCUS INFECTION. WHICH INVOLVE HEART MAINLY

PANCARDITIS .JOINTS-MIGRATING POLY ARTHRITS.AND NERVOUS SYSTEM TOO,

CHOREA,AND OTHER CONTITUINAL SYMTOMS.

> RA - RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMMUNOLOOGICAL

DISORDER.HAVING ITS OWN CLINICAL MANIFESTATIONS.

> THATS WHY BOTH HAVE DIFFERENT ETIOLOGY AND DIFFERENT LINE OF

TREATMENT IN AYURVEDA.AND ALLOPATH

>

> RHD IS NOT OUTCOME OF RA.

>

> I HOPE YOU MAY NOT MIND, TRY TO UNDERSTAND FIRST THEN MAKE A

CLAIM.

> THANKING YOU

>

> YOURS

> DR H. S. RAI

> M.D. (KAYACHIKITSA,) LUCKNOW

> SMO

> LH STATE PG AYURVEDIC COLLEGE

> PILIBHIT

> 9412297010

[Guest guest]

Cellular malfunction as a result of nutritional deficiency or toxins

(environmental, food, mental etc) is disease. Deepending on where one

sees the disese (symptoms, chemical state of blood, cells) 10,000

names by modern science. On the other hand ayurveda has very few

names, and differentiation according to doshic unbalance. This causes many confusions!

 

What is RHD, the west itself has confusion, some literature available

online, quoted below. Why one should go in that, if he can understand

what is dosha state and how to reduce the lack of equilibrium? Can

you please explain where all the infections go when simple yoga +

breathing is adopted as drugless approach. If one can achieve this state by adding diet also he can cure or at least put into remission even CANCER! Countless examples where surgeries have been avoided.

 

We will not be able to show the truth by trying to cast ayurveda in

reductionist or semi-rigid classifications of modern medicine. All that it

will lead to is fruitless discussions of this type. When Vagbhata

permits treatment when Vaidya understand doshas and symptoms without

even having classified the disease name, Vaidya should go ahead.

Secondly, when someone says he has treated a disease X (as defined by

modern medicine) it means patient had disease X as defined by his

previous allopathic consultation.

 

Thanks for clearing our misconceptions, if any.

 

This author would request the discussion from your side in terms of

ayurvedic correlations of RHD, why it is incurable etc We would like to

share your knowledge, not receive just UPPER CASE EAR PINCH.

 

http://www.mydr.com.au/default.asp?article=3289

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=19573

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=476848

http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/42/5/607

http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/16/2/253

http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/73/3/427

 

Enterovirus infection of the heart—a causal or contributory factor in

chronic rheumatic heart disease?

http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/short/23/7/517

 

 

ayurveda, hs rai <drhsrai wrote:

>

> dear dr bhate and dr sp,

>

> I SURPRISED ON YOUR KNOW HOW ABOUT RHD AND RA, I WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE YOU CLEAR THAT RHD (RHEUMATIC HEART DISEASE) IS A DEALYED

SEQUELE OF STAPHALOCOCCUS INFECTION. WHICH INVOLVE HEART MAINLY

PANCARDITIS .JOINTS-MIGRATING POLY ARTHRITS.AND NERVOUS SYSTEM TOO,

CHOREA,AND OTHER CONTITUINAL SYMTOMS.

> RA - RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMMUNOLOOGICAL

DISORDER.HAVING ITS OWN CLINICAL MANIFESTATIONS.

> THATS WHY BOTH HAVE DIFFERENT ETIOLOGY AND DIFFERENT LINE OF

TREATMENT IN AYURVEDA.AND ALLOPATH

>

> RHD IS NOT OUTCOME OF RA.

>

> I HOPE YOU MAY NOT MIND, TRY TO UNDERSTAND FIRST THEN MAKE A

CLAIM.

> THANKING YOU

>

> YOURS

> DR H. S. RAI

> M.D. (KAYACHIKITSA,) LUCKNOW

> SMO

> LH STATE PG AYURVEDIC COLLEGE

> PILIBHIT

> 9412297010

[Guest guest]

Well said Shirish Bhate...

The west is still looking at disease as a cause instead of a

symptom… RHA, Cancer, diabetes extra, are rich mens diseases…

brought on by imbalance that would not even exist if our food and

life's were simpler. Coca Cola machines in the schools! HELLO OUT

THERE!!! knock, knock anybody home. Yes there is the inherited

factor, but only to the degree of being predispose do to the

previous diet and environment of out ancestors. Most people, who if

were to live right, would not even come close to these disease if

they were schooled, and practiced, in keeping their immune systems

up. Ayurveda is the true way to health. You can't keep shoveling

junk into your body and environment without repercussions. Balance

and moderation has always been the key to life… People want to make

Ayurveda more complicated then it is. If you look for the problem

you get to keep it…. But if you look for balance in life all the

problems just melt away…

 

ayurveda, "Shirish Bhate"

<shirishbhate wrote:

>

> Cellular malfunction as a result of nutritional deficiency or

toxins

> (environmental, food, mental etc) is disease. Deepending on where

one

> sees the disese (symptoms, chemical state of blood, cells) 10,000

> names by modern science. On the other hand ayurveda has very few

> names, and differentiation according to doshic unbalance. This

causes many confusions!