Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 an interesting article that addresses the issue of diet and multigenerational physical degeneration in my opinion this began some 9000 years ago as humans progressively abandoned a natural way of eating, and is reaching epidemic proportions in our societies it is interesting to note that very little vattika disease is found in pre-agricultural peoples, and all people in these societies will more or less display kapha-like prakritis, with broad cheekbones, strong teeth and bones, and a solid musculature, even if they might otherwise be a little shorter than your average modern human, whose disproportionate growth is pumped up by a number of factors including rapidly digesting carbs as well as exposure to growth hormones in milk and meat another interesting note is that these societies are largely free of the chronic disease even described in the oldest of ayurvedic texts so beware of what you feed your children - because you are also feeding your great-great-great grandchildren as well todd caldecott > Nutritional supplements shown to impact health for multiple > generations of offspring > > Wednesday, November 15, 2006 by: Jessica Fraser > > * Unlike mainstream health news sources, this site accepts no money > from pharmaceutical companies, junk food companies, soda > manufacturers or nutritional supplement companies. > > (NewsTarget) A mother's diet during pregnancy not only affects her > child, but also the child's future offspring, according to a new > study from researchers at Children's Hospital Oakland Research > Institute. > > The study's lead author, Dr. David Martin, and colleagues split a > group of genetically identical pregnant mice into two groups. The > first group was fed a standard laboratory diet, while the second > group was fed an identical diet supplemented with folate, choline, > zinc and vitamin B12. > > When the mice in both groups gave birth, the offspring were > examined for coat color, and the female babies from both groups > were then mated and fed a diet without added supplements. When the > offspring gave birth, the researchers found that the original > mice's supplemental diet affected the genetic coat color of not > only the children, but also the grandchildren. > > "The idea that some sort of toxin or nutrition could affect not > just individuals but future generations is very powerful," Martin > said. > > According to Kenneth Beckman, an assistant scientist at Children's > > Oakland, the design of the study allowed the researchers to > eliminate most uncontrolled behavior in the mice, which led to a > more conclusive result. > > The research -- funded by the National Cancer Institute and the > National Health and Medical Research Council of Australia -- is > part of a growing field of research called epigenetics, which > examines the long-term genetic effects of the environment. > > Previous studies in epigenetics have shown that a pregnant woman's > environment -- including diet and nutritional supplementation - can > influence future generations' risks of breast cancer, obesity and > heart disease. > > According to holistic health author Mike Adams, Martin's research > indicates that women who take nutritional supplements and eat > superfoods positively influence the health of a number of future > generations. > > "This message is urgent," Adams said. "If we do not make > significant efforts to boost the nutrition and dietary habits of > young couples who are about to conceive a child, we are creating a > multi-generational health burden that will impact individuals, > families and entire nations for a hundred years or more." > http://www.newstarget.com/021083.html Caldecott todd (AT) toddcaldecott (DOT) com www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 I just read an article in "Smithsonian" magazine. It talked about a researcher who was studying birds in the Galapagos Islands. In one year, there was a drought and the birds who were born after that year developed longer beaks so they could "dig deeper" to find insects and the seeds were harder. The rains came back and the succeeding generation had shorter beaks. This goes to show that evolution happens faster than we think it does and we can adapt faster than we think we can. GB ayurveda, Todd Caldecott <todd wrote: > > an interesting article that addresses the issue of diet and > multigenerational physical degeneration > in my opinion this began some 9000 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thanks for posting this. This topic has been one of great interest to me after studying Dr. Weston A. Price's research and noting that all of the healthy traditional societies that he observed had kapha characteristics on their traditional diets, and would then develop vata features within the same generation of incorporating processed foods. So, here's the question: If prakruti is determined at the moment of conception, how is it that nutrition is able to produce either a vata or a kapha-looking individual from the same genetic material? Is the constitution actually formed throughout development, or is the person truly a different constitution below the characteristics that we normally use to determine constitution. For example, could the vata-looking person with a long face, crooked teeth, and anxious mind really be a kapha type with a severe vata imbalance? and how would we ever know? In Health and Joy, Jacob Griscom, CAS Teaching Faculty/Master Teacher: California College of Ayurveda Owner: Peaceful Living Holistic Healthcare Center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 hi GB, hi jacob the adaptation was to an environmental stressor, to maintain normal dietary behaviours it wasn't like the birds radically changed their diet and then evolved an adaptation humans have displayed remarkably little variation in their anatomy and physiology over the last several hundred thousand of years while genetic variations do exist, the human genome is still very similar to our ancient ancestors but if your theory holds true, then we should see that humans can adapt to new changes in diet but of course we haven't - by any measure, human disease has increased due to dramatic alterations in diet, esp. those wrought in the last few hundred years by any record, the incidence of _chronic_ disease has steadily increased from our pre-agricultural state i suggest that the ayurvedic record actually demonstrates this, that as indian culture evolved there was an increasing tendency in ayurveda to enumerate more and more disease syndromes, i believe, because they are artifacts of a society that becomes progressively more and more dependent upon agricultural staples, and now in our modern times, industrially refined foods btw, paul bergner of the national institute of medical herbalism, has developed an instinctive eating exercise, and the results of his findings among his students: http://naimh.com/Intuition-exercise.pdf http://naimh.com/Hunter-Gatherer-Hardwiring.pdf best... todd caldecott > > > I just read an article in "Smithsonian" magazine. It talked about a > researcher who was studying birds in the Galapagos Islands. In one > year, there was a drought and the birds who were born after that > year developed longer beaks so they could "dig deeper" to find > insects and the seeds were harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 sorry, i meant "intuitional" > > btw, paul bergner of the national institute of medical herbalism, > has developed an instinctive eating exercise, and the results of > his findings among his students: > > http://naimh.com/Intuition-exercise.pdf > http://naimh.com/Hunter-Gatherer-Hardwiring.pdf > Caldecott todd (AT) toddcaldecott (DOT) com www.toddcaldecott.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 very nice response todd, i am rathr new to this group but always enjoy your insights and fresh perspective. ayurveda, Todd Caldecott <todd wrote: > > as you know vata, pitta and kapha are representations of qualitative > differences, which extend from the panchabhautic composition of the body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hi The messages are really enlightening. Changes in eating habits can affect future generations. That's why it is necessary for couples to have good health before they even conceive. That was another reason why marriage of two healthy individuals with known family backgrounds used to be arranged and celebrated with religious ceremonies that make the minds also peaceful and strong. But today's youngsters just fall in love at random and produce children of doubtful mental and physical make-ups. When two persons cohabit at random outside marriage, their offspring might have physical and mental make-ups that might not be as desirable as one would like to have to make the human race progress on the upward mental and spiritual path. After proper marriage of healthy couples with religious celebrations, the progeny is expected to be more religious and civilised rather than giving births to terrorists and satans. Thus faith is also important for the progress of the human race for making the world more peaceful and beautiful; Amen. S. M. Acharya <smacharya (AT) (DOT) co.uk> --- Todd Caldecott <todd (AT) toddcaldecott (DOT) com> wrote: > by any record, the incidence of _chronic_ disease > has steadily > increased from our pre-agricultural state > i suggest that the ayurvedic record actually > demonstrates this, that > as indian culture evolved there was an increasing > tendency in > ayurveda to enumerate more and more disease > syndromes, i believe, > because they are artifacts of a society that becomes > progressively > more and more dependent upon agricultural staples, > and now in our > modern times, industrially refined foods > > btw, paul bergner of the national institute of > medical herbalism, has > developed an instinctive eating exercise, and the > results of his > findings among his students: > > http://naimh.com/Intuition-exercise.pdf > http://naimh.com/Hunter-Gatherer-Hardwiring.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Yes, but marriages within close families like marrying sister's daughter, etc also leads to disabled children. This is more in south india and in andra Pradesh, the maximum numbers of disableds are found there as their practice is marriage between a daughter and younger brothers of the mother of that daughter. This is a big factor at least here. - SM Acharya Changes in eating habits can affect future generations. That's why it is necessary for couples to have good health before they even conceive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Discussion has taken a new track. Ancestors designed the system of Gotra, Nakshatra etc. Due to excessive importance of materialistic factors, modern couple tends to ignore the ancient system and then progency suffers, see message 1656 for further details of ancient system. The blood disorders in progency occur even when couple is not related but has blood mismatch as decided by ancient system. It is seen that according to blood groups of modern science, the couple is compatible, but astrological blood group differs and hence incompatibility is seen to lead to blood disorders. It is noteworthy that while modern science has only 4 blood groups and 2 Rh factors, astrology has more variations and a graded scale of compatibility/incompatibility. A number of astrologers are working on the correlation between modern blood groups and ancient "ashtakut" system. Ancient system in such cases may explain, why even after matching the blood, transplanted organs fail in few years! ayurveda, "P. Subramani" <subramani6912 wrote: > > Yes, but marriages within close families like marrying sister's daughter, etc also leads to disabled children. This is more in south india and in andra Pradesh, the maximum numbers of disableds are found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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