Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally by my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up and I should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. At the same time please note that genuinely I have never carried any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude language as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the least. That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in some other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of arguing like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together with an anchor etc. Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside any thoughts otherwise. Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with assignments for next few months so would be away. Kind regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 On 11/27/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > assignments for next few months so would be away. > This news is very touching, Bhaskar. You'll be certainly missed. You had a certain something about you that's not easily describable. I'm sure others will agree. The impending days of ignorance on this Group is frightful. All the very best, Ramapriya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Dear Rampriya, You have something about you which too always brings a smile on the face,like Krishna had a friend Mansukha who always used to bring a smile whenever we used to see him as children on the screen when we used to view movies in our childhood. Yes thats what You will miss, whenever I shall not be here, sheer child like honesty, You are still ignorant about it, with your sneers in every mail, we remember the story of the sly Fox . Honesty is a rare commodity and being a mirror for every one to view himself in, you will be the first one to turn away and not want it wherever you are. Jokes apart,we should never target anyone personally and hurt any person, if You wish to be a good astrologer. Neither have so much sarcasm or irony in talks and should not achieve sadistic schizophrenic psychotic pleasure in hurting others. Attack but with dignity, attack once but not again and again, criticse but not with chocolate icing , be bitter but not poisonous. If I start talking straight with you, you would end up in tears just now, which is not my intention of belittling you. Talk and discuss like a astrologer or like a human being, not like a foolish timepass . Read some basic books on astrology instead of wasting time on such rubbish talks. Sit with good people who do not keep malice in their hearts but only love for all. And leave me alone, for if I strike just once, it is difficult for one to get up. This is not arrogance but a reality, because I speak the truth always, and in your case the truth about you would be very bitter for you to hear, so dont let me say it. Stay off. Be put. I have explained my stand to Shri Chandrasekharji, Now whats the use of keeping the fire ignited with all these type of mails. Be careful that you do not get burnt in attempts to get others burnt. Bhaskar. , "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d wrote: > > On 11/27/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > > > This news is very touching, Bhaskar. You'll be certainly missed. You had a > certain something about you that's not easily describable. I'm sure others > will agree. > > The impending days of ignorance on this Group is frightful. > > All the very best, > Ramapriya > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Dear Bhaskarji, I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. I do not find them forthcoming and understand why the strong language is being used. I also find it strange that Bhavachalit is given antiquity of not more than 30 or so years by a learned astrologer like you. I am more than 60 years of age now and the system was advanced by many much before that, mostly by those who used Sayana charts. I have posted the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao on your declaration that unless one is able to calculate graha positions manually it is not possible to predict. I would like your reaction to the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao. That will help me understand vedic astrology better. By the way, since you, apparently, studied at BVB and it was not in existence when I started learning astrology, I presumed that you are younger to me and did not address you as "Bhaskarji" since Hindu culture does not permit elders to address young people with the suffix "JI" . But contents of your other mail to one of the members appears to indicate that you are hurt by this approach. Believe me that was not my intention. Chandrashekhar. Bhaskar wrote: > > Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, > > You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally by > my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up and I > should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, > just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. > Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. > At the same time please note that genuinely I have never carried > any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were > just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, > anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude language > as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the least. > That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in some > other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of arguing > like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together > with an anchor etc. > > Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside > any thoughts otherwise. > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > Kind regards, > Bhaskar. > > > ------ > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.12/545 - Release 11/21/2006 10:36 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dear Chandrasekharji, I gor incensed only because any good astrologer is expected to know what Bhava Chalit means, and actually all the traditional Brahmin astrologers know about this who have learnt from a Guru. They may not know english but know what Bhava chalit means. So when one asks this basic question then it seems audacious because he is expected to know this.This is not Sayana by the way. That is why the strong language is used because it seems sacrilgeous of a astrologer not knowing what Bhava Chalit is after having practised for 30-40 years. I have never said that the systems antiquity is just 30 years old, but have mentioned that people knew about it and was widely taken use of uptil even 30-40 years back, and even today by traditional astrologers. The modern lot dont want to do hard work.They just want name and fame after reading 2 books on astrology on roadside and are self prophesed astrologers. It is not necessary for one to know mathematics to be able to predict, is what one line of schools thinks, which may be right considering that there were not many confusions and most were living a regulated lifestyle few decades back, where people had more intuition power. Today things are different, a person has to be a specialist. nd the life style of today does not empower some Tom,Dick and Harry any intuitions. Prof Suryanarayanjis times were different, and if You have read his son Dr.BV Ramans astrology books properky then You would find that he has also laid emphasis on learning the mathematical part. If a person has not learnt mathematical part, he will never know what does the difference in 1 degree in Planet or Bhava will bring effects and where, and neither able to rectify the birth times, and will never be able to predict with surety or time the events. If by law of probability one is able to earn a strike rate of 50% success that does not imply that its the right way. Affixing ji- These are too small things to hurt me, I just made my point that I had always respected You while addtressing You, and also mentioned there that not affixing ji does not mean dis-respect. Hope our discussions conclude with this. You should sincerely learn about Bhava Chalit,it will be a crown on your Head which is missing, with the knowledge You already possess will add to the glory. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. I do not find them > forthcoming and understand why the strong language is being used. I also > find it strange that Bhavachalit is given antiquity of not more than 30 > or so years by a learned astrologer like you. I am more than 60 years of > age now and the system was advanced by many much before that, mostly by > those who used Sayana charts. > > I have posted the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao on your declaration that > unless one is able to calculate graha positions manually it is not > possible to predict. I would like your reaction to the opinion of B. > Suryanarain Rao. That will help me understand vedic astrology better. > > By the way, since you, apparently, studied at BVB and it was not in > existence when I started learning astrology, I presumed that you are > younger to me and did not address you as "Bhaskarji" since Hindu culture > does not permit elders to address young people with the suffix "JI" . > But contents of your other mail to one of the members appears to > indicate that you are hurt by this approach. Believe me that was not my > intention. > Chandrashekhar. > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, > > > > You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally by > > my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up and I > > should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, > > just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. > > Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. > > At the same time please note that genuinely I have never carried > > any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were > > just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, > > anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude language > > as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the least. > > That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in some > > other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of arguing > > like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together > > with an anchor etc. > > > > Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside > > any thoughts otherwise. > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > > > Kind regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.12/545 - Release 11/21/2006 10:36 PM > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I hope the asylum security has now been tightened. Can't have deranged inmates on the loose everywhere, y'know. On 11/27/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Dear Rampriya, > > You have something about you which too always brings a smile on the > face,like Krishna had a friend Mansukha who always used to bring a > smile whenever we used to see him as children on the screen when > we used to view movies in our childhood. > > Yes thats what You will miss, whenever I shall not be here, sheer > child like honesty, You are still ignorant about it, with your > sneers in every mail, we remember the story of the sly Fox . > Honesty is a rare commodity and being a mirror for every one to view > himself in, you will be the first one to turn away and not want it > wherever you are. > > Jokes apart,we should never target anyone personally and hurt any > person, if You wish to be a good astrologer. Neither have so much > sarcasm or irony in talks and should not achieve sadistic > schizophrenic psychotic pleasure in hurting others. > > Attack but with dignity, attack once but not again and again, > criticse but not with chocolate icing , be bitter but not poisonous. > If I start talking straight with you, you would end up in tears just > now, which is not my intention of belittling you. > > Talk and discuss like a astrologer or like a human being, not like a > foolish timepass . Read some basic books on astrology instead of > wasting time on such rubbish talks. Sit with good people who > do not keep malice in their hearts but only love for all. > And leave me alone, for if I strike just once, it is difficult for > one to get up. This is not arrogance but a reality, because I speak > the truth always, and in your case the truth about you would be very > bitter for you to hear, so dont let me say it. Stay off. Be put. > > I have explained my stand to Shri Chandrasekharji, Now whats the use > of keeping the fire ignited with all these type of mails. Be > careful that you do not get burnt in attempts to get others burnt. > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 On 11/28/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. > Please be reasonable in what you expect. What you want is "pertaining to Standard first of school" and nothing but "a precious wasteage of time, having to explain such prelimnaries". Chandrashekharji, I may be a boorish, pompous prat who thinks nothing of slandering everyone else with crass moronic utterances but I honestly didn't mean to hurt you. Ramapriya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 No comments. You only amuse me and at the most able to produce a smile. - In , "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d wrote: > > I hope the asylum security has now been tightened. Can't have deranged > inmates on the loose everywhere, y'know. > > > On 11/27/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > Dear Rampriya, > > > > You have something about you which too always brings a smile on the > > face,like Krishna had a friend Mansukha who always used to bring a > > smile whenever we used to see him as children on the screen when > > we used to view movies in our childhood. > > > > Yes thats what You will miss, whenever I shall not be here, sheer > > child like honesty, You are still ignorant about it, with your > > sneers in every mail, we remember the story of the sly Fox . > > Honesty is a rare commodity and being a mirror for every one to view > > himself in, you will be the first one to turn away and not want it > > wherever you are. > > > > Jokes apart,we should never target anyone personally and hurt any > > person, if You wish to be a good astrologer. Neither have so much > > sarcasm or irony in talks and should not achieve sadistic > > schizophrenic psychotic pleasure in hurting others. > > > > Attack but with dignity, attack once but not again and again, > > criticse but not with chocolate icing , be bitter but not poisonous. > > If I start talking straight with you, you would end up in tears just > > now, which is not my intention of belittling you. > > > > Talk and discuss like a astrologer or like a human being, not like a > > foolish timepass . Read some basic books on astrology instead of > > wasting time on such rubbish talks. Sit with good people who > > do not keep malice in their hearts but only love for all. > > And leave me alone, for if I strike just once, it is difficult for > > one to get up. This is not arrogance but a reality, because I speak > > the truth always, and in your case the truth about you would be very > > bitter for you to hear, so dont let me say it. Stay off. Be put. > > > > I have explained my stand to Shri Chandrasekharji, Now whats the use > > of keeping the fire ignited with all these type of mails. Be > > careful that you do not get burnt in attempts to get others burnt. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 , "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d wrote: > > On 11/28/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. > > > > > Please be reasonable in what you expect. What you want is "pertaining to > Standard first of school" and nothing but "a precious wasteage of time, > having to explain such prelimnaries". > > Chandrashekharji, I may be a boorish, pompous prat who thinks nothing of > slandering everyone else with crass moronic utterances but I honestly didn't > mean to hurt you. > > Ramapriya > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dear Rampriya. Again you amuse me and re-confirm my doubts about you being a human. I am sure no circus has complained of one of its inmates let loose by mistake.Then how come we are facing....... also change your name to "Kalah Priya" If You dont stop this rubbish then I will also have to come down to your level, which will not be good for you, and willleave you badly bruised, and for me some more rinabandhans with you, which i do not wish. Please sit with inmates from a assylum for some time, They also have better sense. And as you pointed out that I am a member of the same,You are welcome to sit with me,but I will not allow indiscipline, and my punishment would be, leaving you with more of my types for 7 days continously. And when you come out then it would be more difficult for you to face a mirror. So stay put. Best wishes, with full sympathy . Bhaskar. , "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d wrote: > > On 11/28/06, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. > > > > > Please be reasonable in what you expect. What you want is "pertaining to > Standard first of school" and nothing but "a precious wasteage of time, > having to explain such prelimnaries". > > Chandrashekharji, I may be a boorish, pompous prat who thinks nothing of > slandering everyone else with crass moronic utterances but I honestly didn't > mean to hurt you. > > Ramapriya > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dear Bhaskarji, I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava Chalit. It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit concept originated when you call everybody who supposedly does not know what is Bhava Chalit, an ignoramus. I would also like to point out that Dr. B.V. Raman was the grandson of B. Suryanarain Rao, and not his Son as said by you. I was seeking your opinion on B. Suryanarain Rao' views, as they are diametrically opposite to those held by you. It appears you think he was an insignificant astrologer, an opinion that I am sure not shared by many including those who started the Jyotish course in BVB. Instead of all these lengthy answers, it would have been better had you given answers to my two simple queries which, as a master of both astronomy and Bhava Chalit system, should be child's play for you. Chandrashekhar. Bhaskar wrote: > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > I gor incensed only because any good astrologer is expected to know > what Bhava Chalit means, and actually all the traditional > Brahmin astrologers know about this who have learnt from a Guru. > They may not know english but know what Bhava chalit means. > So when one asks this basic question then it seems audacious > because he is expected to know this.This is not Sayana by the way. > That is why the strong language is used because it seems > sacrilgeous of a astrologer not knowing what Bhava Chalit is > after having practised for 30-40 years. > > I have never said that the systems antiquity is just 30 years old, > but have mentioned that people knew about it and was widely taken use > of uptil even 30-40 years back, and even today by traditional > astrologers. The modern lot dont want to do hard work.They just want > name and fame after reading 2 books on astrology on roadside > and are self prophesed astrologers. > > It is not necessary for one to know mathematics to be able to > predict, is what one line of schools thinks, which may be right > considering that there were not many confusions and most > were living a regulated lifestyle few decades back, where > people had more intuition power. Today things are different, > a person has to be a specialist. nd the life style of today > does not empower some Tom,Dick and Harry any intuitions. > > Prof Suryanarayanjis times were different, and if You have read his > son Dr.BV Ramans astrology books properky then You would find that he > has also laid emphasis on learning the mathematical part. > > If a person has not learnt mathematical part, he will never know what > does the difference in 1 degree in Planet or Bhava will bring effects > and where, and neither able to rectify the birth times, and will > never be able to predict with surety or time the events. If by > law of probability one is able to earn a strike rate of 50% success > that does not imply that its the right way. > > Affixing ji- > These are too small things to hurt me, I just made my point that I > had always respected You while addtressing You, and also mentioned > there that not affixing ji does not mean dis-respect. > > Hope our discussions conclude with this. > You should sincerely learn about Bhava Chalit,it will > be a crown on your Head which is missing, with the > knowledge You already possess will add to the glory. > > Best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. I do not find > them > > forthcoming and understand why the strong language is being used. I > also > > find it strange that Bhavachalit is given antiquity of not more > than 30 > > or so years by a learned astrologer like you. I am more than 60 > years of > > age now and the system was advanced by many much before that, > mostly by > > those who used Sayana charts. > > > > I have posted the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao on your declaration > that > > unless one is able to calculate graha positions manually it is not > > possible to predict. I would like your reaction to the opinion of > B. > > Suryanarain Rao. That will help me understand vedic astrology > better. > > > > By the way, since you, apparently, studied at BVB and it was not in > > existence when I started learning astrology, I presumed that you > are > > younger to me and did not address you as "Bhaskarji" since Hindu > culture > > does not permit elders to address young people with the > suffix "JI" . > > But contents of your other mail to one of the members appears to > > indicate that you are hurt by this approach. Believe me that was > not my > > intention. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally by > > > my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up and > I > > > should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, > > > just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. > > > Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. > > > At the same time please note that genuinely I have never carried > > > any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were > > > just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, > > > anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude > language > > > as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the least. > > > That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in some > > > other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of arguing > > > like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together > > > with an anchor etc. > > > > > > Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside > > > any thoughts otherwise. > > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > > > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.12/545 - Release Date: > 11/21/2006 10:36 PM > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Chandrasekharji, You are not as pious as is been projected, I have been wanting to say this. From thestarting you are mantaining the attack in a polite way, which never went unnoticed. // I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava Chalit. > It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit concept > originated when you call everybody who supposedly does not know what is > Bhava Chalit, an ignoramus.// The way your initial mails came and you asked about Bhava Chalit, anybody would think the way it was thought. I never say that all those who do not know Bhava Chalit are ignomarus. That is wrong projection and twisting of what was written and presented to the readers in a wrong way, which also has been done by you continously from the start. My anger is only for those persons frolicking themselves as astrologers and claiming that they are in this field since last 30-40 years, but yet have to ask such kiddish queries on Bhava Chalit. // would also like to point out that Dr. B.V. Raman was the grandson of > B. Suryanarain Rao, and not his Son as said by you. I was seeking your > opinion on B. Suryanarain Rao' views, as they are diametrically > opposite to those held by you. It appears you think he was an > insignificant astrologer, an opinion that I am sure not shared by many > including those who started the Jyotish course in BVB.// Again You misunderstood. And twisting the facts for readers to get wrong meaning, especially those who do not have time to read the full exchanges between us. Prof SuryaNarayans son who was Dr. BV Ramans father did not have much mathematical acumen, (As far as I remember,have read his books long ago-My experiences in Astrology),which flaw or whatever you may call it , Dr BV Raman did not want to continue or have in himself, thats why he wanted to learn the Mathematics part properly. It can never appear to me that Prof Suryanarayan rao can be an insignificant astrologer, but it seems that you are wanting to sayit, firing the gun on my shoulders. Dont talk in this manner of respectable Gurus please. //Istead of all these lengthy answers, it would have been better had you > given answers to my two simple queries which, as a master of both > astronomy and Bhava Chalit system, should be child's play for you.// You actuallyrequire only 2 liners, and not so much time wasted ,which has been done by me. Again you are using sarcasm here as you have done always, when you say that as a master... Please note that I am not bound to answer you neither wish to. And when this matter has been closed do not bring it up again and again. But please spend your energies on showing the Members and gaining their sympathy about your life spent in astrology for so many decades, and also spirituality. Do not imprtess me. I do not get impressed easily Sir. Hope now at least you will havesomething better to do,rather than bring this issue up again and again. Please note that I do not have time to waste on kiddish exchanges trying to prove one up. If You wish me to say so then, Okay, You are the best and all fools are the rest. Do notput others to test. Leave me alone in my nest. Bhaskar. , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava Chalit. > It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit concept > originated when you call everybody who supposedly does not know what is > Bhava Chalit, an ignoramus. > > I would also like to point out that Dr. B.V. Raman was the grandson of > B. Suryanarain Rao, and not his Son as said by you. I was seeking your > opinion on B. Suryanarain Rao' views, as they are diametrically > opposite to those held by you. It appears you think he was an > insignificant astrologer, an opinion that I am sure not shared by many > including those who started the Jyotish course in BVB. > > Instead of all these lengthy answers, it would have been better had you > given answers to my two simple queries which, as a master of both > astronomy and Bhava Chalit system, should be child's play for you. > > Chandrashekhar. > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > > > I gor incensed only because any good astrologer is expected to know > > what Bhava Chalit means, and actually all the traditional > > Brahmin astrologers know about this who have learnt from a Guru. > > They may not know english but know what Bhava chalit means. > > So when one asks this basic question then it seems audacious > > because he is expected to know this.This is not Sayana by the way. > > That is why the strong language is used because it seems > > sacrilgeous of a astrologer not knowing what Bhava Chalit is > > after having practised for 30-40 years. > > > > I have never said that the systems antiquity is just 30 years old, > > but have mentioned that people knew about it and was widely taken use > > of uptil even 30-40 years back, and even today by traditional > > astrologers. The modern lot dont want to do hard work.They just want > > name and fame after reading 2 books on astrology on roadside > > and are self prophesed astrologers. > > > > It is not necessary for one to know mathematics to be able to > > predict, is what one line of schools thinks, which may be right > > considering that there were not many confusions and most > > were living a regulated lifestyle few decades back, where > > people had more intuition power. Today things are different, > > a person has to be a specialist. nd the life style of today > > does not empower some Tom,Dick and Harry any intuitions. > > > > Prof Suryanarayanjis times were different, and if You have read his > > son Dr.BV Ramans astrology books properky then You would find that he > > has also laid emphasis on learning the mathematical part. > > > > If a person has not learnt mathematical part, he will never know what > > does the difference in 1 degree in Planet or Bhava will bring effects > > and where, and neither able to rectify the birth times, and will > > never be able to predict with surety or time the events. If by > > law of probability one is able to earn a strike rate of 50% success > > that does not imply that its the right way. > > > > Affixing ji- > > These are too small things to hurt me, I just made my point that I > > had always respected You while addtressing You, and also mentioned > > there that not affixing ji does not mean dis-respect. > > > > Hope our discussions conclude with this. > > You should sincerely learn about Bhava Chalit,it will > > be a crown on your Head which is missing, with the > > knowledge You already possess will add to the glory. > > > > Best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. I do not find > > them > > > forthcoming and understand why the strong language is being used. I > > also > > > find it strange that Bhavachalit is given antiquity of not more > > than 30 > > > or so years by a learned astrologer like you. I am more than 60 > > years of > > > age now and the system was advanced by many much before that, > > mostly by > > > those who used Sayana charts. > > > > > > I have posted the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao on your declaration > > that > > > unless one is able to calculate graha positions manually it is not > > > possible to predict. I would like your reaction to the opinion of > > B. > > > Suryanarain Rao. That will help me understand vedic astrology > > better. > > > > > > By the way, since you, apparently, studied at BVB and it was not in > > > existence when I started learning astrology, I presumed that you > > are > > > younger to me and did not address you as "Bhaskarji" since Hindu > > culture > > > does not permit elders to address young people with the > > suffix "JI" . > > > But contents of your other mail to one of the members appears to > > > indicate that you are hurt by this approach. Believe me that was > > not my > > > intention. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally by > > > > my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up and > > I > > > > should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, > > > > just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. > > > > Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. > > > > At the same time please note that genuinely I have never carried > > > > any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were > > > > just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, > > > > anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude > > language > > > > as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the least. > > > > That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in some > > > > other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of arguing > > > > like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together > > > > with an anchor etc. > > > > > > > > Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside > > > > any thoughts otherwise. > > > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > > > > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.12/545 - Release Date: > > 11/21/2006 10:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Chandrasekharji, // I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava Chalit.// That is now, like trying to stitch the torn clothes. Everyone knows by now they are torn, so forget trying to cover up. //> It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit concept originated // You please give us a authentic reply from wher it originated. By the way let me tell you, it seems that you do not even know the literal meaning of this term. This is not a Brand like Sony,Philips,Casio,but a system. Bhava Chalit is a system of House divisions and the different types of house divisions have originated from different places. The word-language "Bhava Chalit " should itself tell you from where the system oroginated. If you know better then please enlighten us ignorants. You have better stop unnecessarypushing me round the corner and trying to prove that I know nothing. I have nothing to loose, for you have already tried hard to see that I am not taken in the fold here, so I never gained anything here then whats to loose, but you have given 60 years to astrology and the members here respect you for Your astrological and spiritual prowess, do not let them get disillusioned to reality. Hope this is the last exchange between us. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava Chalit. > It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit concept > originated when you call everybody who supposedly does not know what is > Bhava Chalit, an ignoramus. > > I would also like to point out that Dr. B.V. Raman was the grandson of > B. Suryanarain Rao, and not his Son as said by you. I was seeking your > opinion on B. Suryanarain Rao' views, as they are diametrically > opposite to those held by you. It appears you think he was an > insignificant astrologer, an opinion that I am sure not shared by many > including those who started the Jyotish course in BVB. > > Instead of all these lengthy answers, it would have been better had you > given answers to my two simple queries which, as a master of both > astronomy and Bhava Chalit system, should be child's play for you. > > Chandrashekhar. > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > > > I gor incensed only because any good astrologer is expected to know > > what Bhava Chalit means, and actually all the traditional > > Brahmin astrologers know about this who have learnt from a Guru. > > They may not know english but know what Bhava chalit means. > > So when one asks this basic question then it seems audacious > > because he is expected to know this.This is not Sayana by the way. > > That is why the strong language is used because it seems > > sacrilgeous of a astrologer not knowing what Bhava Chalit is > > after having practised for 30-40 years. > > > > I have never said that the systems antiquity is just 30 years old, > > but have mentioned that people knew about it and was widely taken use > > of uptil even 30-40 years back, and even today by traditional > > astrologers. The modern lot dont want to do hard work.They just want > > name and fame after reading 2 books on astrology on roadside > > and are self prophesed astrologers. > > > > It is not necessary for one to know mathematics to be able to > > predict, is what one line of schools thinks, which may be right > > considering that there were not many confusions and most > > were living a regulated lifestyle few decades back, where > > people had more intuition power. Today things are different, > > a person has to be a specialist. nd the life style of today > > does not empower some Tom,Dick and Harry any intuitions. > > > > Prof Suryanarayanjis times were different, and if You have read his > > son Dr.BV Ramans astrology books properky then You would find that he > > has also laid emphasis on learning the mathematical part. > > > > If a person has not learnt mathematical part, he will never know what > > does the difference in 1 degree in Planet or Bhava will bring effects > > and where, and neither able to rectify the birth times, and will > > never be able to predict with surety or time the events. If by > > law of probability one is able to earn a strike rate of 50% success > > that does not imply that its the right way. > > > > Affixing ji- > > These are too small things to hurt me, I just made my point that I > > had always respected You while addtressing You, and also mentioned > > there that not affixing ji does not mean dis-respect. > > > > Hope our discussions conclude with this. > > You should sincerely learn about Bhava Chalit,it will > > be a crown on your Head which is missing, with the > > knowledge You already possess will add to the glory. > > > > Best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. I do not find > > them > > > forthcoming and understand why the strong language is being used. I > > also > > > find it strange that Bhavachalit is given antiquity of not more > > than 30 > > > or so years by a learned astrologer like you. I am more than 60 > > years of > > > age now and the system was advanced by many much before that, > > mostly by > > > those who used Sayana charts. > > > > > > I have posted the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao on your declaration > > that > > > unless one is able to calculate graha positions manually it is not > > > possible to predict. I would like your reaction to the opinion of > > B. > > > Suryanarain Rao. That will help me understand vedic astrology > > better. > > > > > > By the way, since you, apparently, studied at BVB and it was not in > > > existence when I started learning astrology, I presumed that you > > are > > > younger to me and did not address you as "Bhaskarji" since Hindu > > culture > > > does not permit elders to address young people with the > > suffix "JI" . > > > But contents of your other mail to one of the members appears to > > > indicate that you are hurt by this approach. Believe me that was > > not my > > > intention. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally by > > > > my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up and > > I > > > > should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, > > > > just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. > > > > Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. > > > > At the same time please note that genuinely I have never carried > > > > any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were > > > > just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, > > > > anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude > > language > > > > as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the least. > > > > That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in some > > > > other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of arguing > > > > like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together > > > > with an anchor etc. > > > > > > > > Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside > > > > any thoughts otherwise. > > > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > > > > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.12/545 - Release Date: > > 11/21/2006 10:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish this thread here itself. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/29/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > // I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava > Chalit.// > > That is now, like trying to stitch the torn clothes. Everyone knows by > now they are torn, so forget trying to cover up. > > //> It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit > concept originated // > > You please give us a authentic reply from wher it originated. By the > way let me tell you, it seems that you do not even know the literal > meaning of this term. This is not a Brand like Sony,Philips,Casio,but > a system. Bhava Chalit is a system of House divisions and > the different types of house divisions have originated from different > places. The word-language "Bhava Chalit " should itself tell you > from where the system oroginated. If you know better then please > enlighten us ignorants. > > You have better stop unnecessarypushing me round the corner and > trying to prove that I know nothing. I have nothing to loose, for you > have already tried hard to see that I am not taken in the fold here, > so I never gained anything here then whats to loose, but you have > given 60 years to astrology and the members here respect you for Your > astrological and spiritual prowess, do not let them get disillusioned > to reality. > > Hope this is the last exchange between us. > > Best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > <%40>, > Chandrashekhar > <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava > Chalit. > > It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit > concept > > originated when you call everybody who supposedly does not know > what is > > Bhava Chalit, an ignoramus. > > > > I would also like to point out that Dr. B.V. Raman was the grandson > of > > B. Suryanarain Rao, and not his Son as said by you. I was seeking > your > > opinion on B. Suryanarain Rao' views, as they are diametrically > > opposite to those held by you. It appears you think he was an > > insignificant astrologer, an opinion that I am sure not shared by > many > > including those who started the Jyotish course in BVB. > > > > Instead of all these lengthy answers, it would have been better had > you > > given answers to my two simple queries which, as a master of both > > astronomy and Bhava Chalit system, should be child's play for you. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > I gor incensed only because any good astrologer is expected to > know > > > what Bhava Chalit means, and actually all the traditional > > > Brahmin astrologers know about this who have learnt from a Guru. > > > They may not know english but know what Bhava chalit means. > > > So when one asks this basic question then it seems audacious > > > because he is expected to know this.This is not Sayana by the way. > > > That is why the strong language is used because it seems > > > sacrilgeous of a astrologer not knowing what Bhava Chalit is > > > after having practised for 30-40 years. > > > > > > I have never said that the systems antiquity is just 30 years old, > > > but have mentioned that people knew about it and was widely taken > use > > > of uptil even 30-40 years back, and even today by traditional > > > astrologers. The modern lot dont want to do hard work.They just > want > > > name and fame after reading 2 books on astrology on roadside > > > and are self prophesed astrologers. > > > > > > It is not necessary for one to know mathematics to be able to > > > predict, is what one line of schools thinks, which may be right > > > considering that there were not many confusions and most > > > were living a regulated lifestyle few decades back, where > > > people had more intuition power. Today things are different, > > > a person has to be a specialist. nd the life style of today > > > does not empower some Tom,Dick and Harry any intuitions. > > > > > > Prof Suryanarayanjis times were different, and if You have read > his > > > son Dr.BV Ramans astrology books properky then You would find > that he > > > has also laid emphasis on learning the mathematical part. > > > > > > If a person has not learnt mathematical part, he will never know > what > > > does the difference in 1 degree in Planet or Bhava will bring > effects > > > and where, and neither able to rectify the birth times, and will > > > never be able to predict with surety or time the events. If by > > > law of probability one is able to earn a strike rate of 50% > success > > > that does not imply that its the right way. > > > > > > Affixing ji- > > > These are too small things to hurt me, I just made my point that I > > > had always respected You while addtressing You, and also mentioned > > > there that not affixing ji does not mean dis-respect. > > > > > > Hope our discussions conclude with this. > > > You should sincerely learn about Bhava Chalit,it will > > > be a crown on your Head which is missing, with the > > > knowledge You already possess will add to the glory. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. I do not > find > > > them > > > > forthcoming and understand why the strong language is being > used. I > > > also > > > > find it strange that Bhavachalit is given antiquity of not more > > > than 30 > > > > or so years by a learned astrologer like you. I am more than 60 > > > years of > > > > age now and the system was advanced by many much before that, > > > mostly by > > > > those who used Sayana charts. > > > > > > > > I have posted the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao on your > declaration > > > that > > > > unless one is able to calculate graha positions manually it is > not > > > > possible to predict. I would like your reaction to the opinion > of > > > B. > > > > Suryanarain Rao. That will help me understand vedic astrology > > > better. > > > > > > > > By the way, since you, apparently, studied at BVB and it was > not in > > > > existence when I started learning astrology, I presumed that you > > > are > > > > younger to me and did not address you as "Bhaskarji" since Hindu > > > culture > > > > does not permit elders to address young people with the > > > suffix "JI" . > > > > But contents of your other mail to one of the members appears to > > > > indicate that you are hurt by this approach. Believe me that was > > > not my > > > > intention. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > > > You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally > by > > > > > my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up > and > > > I > > > > > should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, > > > > > just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. > > > > > Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. > > > > > At the same time please note that genuinely I have never > carried > > > > > any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were > > > > > just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, > > > > > anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude > > > language > > > > > as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the > least. > > > > > That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in > some > > > > > other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of > arguing > > > > > like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together > > > > > with an anchor etc. > > > > > > > > > > Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside > > > > > any thoughts otherwise. > > > > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > > > > > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.12/545 - Release > Date: > > > 11/21/2006 10:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Shri Bharat Bhai, Namaste. I had finished the thread long back from my side. But everytime provocations are made. Being human being some sound is going to come when one gets hurt. Whenever I try to finish the conversation these wise men come up with some or the other poking words. I am not Mahatma gandhi,but yet have tried to play upto them and allowed them to enjoy at my cost. But theres a limt. Even I request all involved to stop this turn by turn bashing from time to time, on unnecessary created issues. I have already asked Chandrasekharji for forgiveness long back though I should be demanding that, for the demands made on me and the allegationsput up,and also accepted all the astrologers working here as my Teachers, still what more they want ? Let them come to my place and I will touch their feet, if it makes them happy, but also request them to keep peace for if required I know to pickup swords too, which does not suit us in the line of activity we are in. This is a divine science and we are supposed to behave more maturedly thean the common road side folks.From my side this subject is over till they start again. Thank You for your good attempts at closing this issue. Kind regards, Bhaskar. , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish this thread > here itself. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > On 11/29/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > > > // I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava > > Chalit.// > > > > That is now, like trying to stitch the torn clothes. Everyone knows by > > now they are torn, so forget trying to cover up. > > > > //> It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit > > concept originated // > > > > You please give us a authentic reply from wher it originated. By the > > way let me tell you, it seems that you do not even know the literal > > meaning of this term. This is not a Brand like Sony,Philips,Casio,but > > a system. Bhava Chalit is a system of House divisions and > > the different types of house divisions have originated from different > > places. The word-language "Bhava Chalit " should itself tell you > > from where the system oroginated. If you know better then please > > enlighten us ignorants. > > > > You have better stop unnecessarypushing me round the corner and > > trying to prove that I know nothing. I have nothing to loose, for you > > have already tried hard to see that I am not taken in the fold here, > > so I never gained anything here then whats to loose, but you have > > given 60 years to astrology and the members here respect you for Your > > astrological and spiritual prowess, do not let them get disillusioned > > to reality. > > > > Hope this is the last exchange between us. > > > > Best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > <% 40>, > > Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > I am amazed at your assumption that I do not know what is Bhava > > Chalit. > > > It is also surprising that you are not aware whence Bhava Chalit > > concept > > > originated when you call everybody who supposedly does not know > > what is > > > Bhava Chalit, an ignoramus. > > > > > > I would also like to point out that Dr. B.V. Raman was the grandson > > of > > > B. Suryanarain Rao, and not his Son as said by you. I was seeking > > your > > > opinion on B. Suryanarain Rao' views, as they are diametrically > > > opposite to those held by you. It appears you think he was an > > > insignificant astrologer, an opinion that I am sure not shared by > > many > > > including those who started the Jyotish course in BVB. > > > > > > Instead of all these lengthy answers, it would have been better had > > you > > > given answers to my two simple queries which, as a master of both > > > astronomy and Bhava Chalit system, should be child's play for you. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > I gor incensed only because any good astrologer is expected to > > know > > > > what Bhava Chalit means, and actually all the traditional > > > > Brahmin astrologers know about this who have learnt from a Guru. > > > > They may not know english but know what Bhava chalit means. > > > > So when one asks this basic question then it seems audacious > > > > because he is expected to know this.This is not Sayana by the way. > > > > That is why the strong language is used because it seems > > > > sacrilgeous of a astrologer not knowing what Bhava Chalit is > > > > after having practised for 30-40 years. > > > > > > > > I have never said that the systems antiquity is just 30 years old, > > > > but have mentioned that people knew about it and was widely taken > > use > > > > of uptil even 30-40 years back, and even today by traditional > > > > astrologers. The modern lot dont want to do hard work.They just > > want > > > > name and fame after reading 2 books on astrology on roadside > > > > and are self prophesed astrologers. > > > > > > > > It is not necessary for one to know mathematics to be able to > > > > predict, is what one line of schools thinks, which may be right > > > > considering that there were not many confusions and most > > > > were living a regulated lifestyle few decades back, where > > > > people had more intuition power. Today things are different, > > > > a person has to be a specialist. nd the life style of today > > > > does not empower some Tom,Dick and Harry any intuitions. > > > > > > > > Prof Suryanarayanjis times were different, and if You have read > > his > > > > son Dr.BV Ramans astrology books properky then You would find > > that he > > > > has also laid emphasis on learning the mathematical part. > > > > > > > > If a person has not learnt mathematical part, he will never know > > what > > > > does the difference in 1 degree in Planet or Bhava will bring > > effects > > > > and where, and neither able to rectify the birth times, and will > > > > never be able to predict with surety or time the events. If by > > > > law of probability one is able to earn a strike rate of 50% > > success > > > > that does not imply that its the right way. > > > > > > > > Affixing ji- > > > > These are too small things to hurt me, I just made my point that I > > > > had always respected You while addtressing You, and also mentioned > > > > there that not affixing ji does not mean dis-respect. > > > > > > > > Hope our discussions conclude with this. > > > > You should sincerely learn about Bhava Chalit,it will > > > > be a crown on your Head which is missing, with the > > > > knowledge You already possess will add to the glory. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > <% 40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > I am not hurt. I only wanted answers to my questions. I do not > > find > > > > them > > > > > forthcoming and understand why the strong language is being > > used. I > > > > also > > > > > find it strange that Bhavachalit is given antiquity of not more > > > > than 30 > > > > > or so years by a learned astrologer like you. I am more than 60 > > > > years of > > > > > age now and the system was advanced by many much before that, > > > > mostly by > > > > > those who used Sayana charts. > > > > > > > > > > I have posted the opinion of B. Suryanarain Rao on your > > declaration > > > > that > > > > > unless one is able to calculate graha positions manually it is > > not > > > > > possible to predict. I would like your reaction to the opinion > > of > > > > B. > > > > > Suryanarain Rao. That will help me understand vedic astrology > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, since you, apparently, studied at BVB and it was > > not in > > > > > existence when I started learning astrology, I presumed that you > > > > are > > > > > younger to me and did not address you as "Bhaskarji" since Hindu > > > > culture > > > > > does not permit elders to address young people with the > > > > suffix "JI" . > > > > > But contents of your other mail to one of the members appears to > > > > > indicate that you are hurt by this approach. Believe me that was > > > > not my > > > > > intention. > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekharji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You may please forgive me for having hurt you unintenionally > > by > > > > > > my hard mails. I just get carried away when arguments come up > > and > > > > I > > > > > > should not expect the one opposite me to know all what I know, > > > > > > just as I would not be expected to know all what he knows. > > > > > > Its my fault. You have really been gentle and patient. > > > > > > At the same time please note that genuinely I have never > > carried > > > > > > any negative feelings in any of my mails. They were > > > > > > just replies. On the contrary I felt sad that due to me, > > > > > > anyone should be made to read any hard stuff or probably rude > > > > language > > > > > > as one member said, which was no intention of mines in the > > least. > > > > > > That is my natural style of defending myself and as said in > > some > > > > > > other mail, I have not learnt the sophisticated ways of > > arguing > > > > > > like they show the politicians on TV Shows pitted together > > > > > > with an anchor etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you will treat me as a younger brother and leave aside > > > > > > any thoughts otherwise. > > > > > > Anyway I am not going to write much here as am occupied with > > > > > > assignments for next few months so would be away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.12/545 - Release > > Date: > > > > 11/21/2006 10:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received ('From the turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive other mails with that troll's messages attached. I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. Cheers, Ramapriya On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology > wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish this > thread > here itself. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 "From the turd" Look at his language. Looks like cleans turds of people and earns money.This guy can get a job anywhere in the world. Such people should be thrown in places where the apana Vayu gets full use in the bodys system. This guy is the by product of abhorginees and that too multi linguistic. Not himself sure where is his origin. Thats why he is using such language all the time. We can understand his origins where they must be, cause he loves turd and pythons. I am sure he was thrown by the manufacturers himself as soon as they found him unlucky. Dosent know himself whether he is from East or west. Still searching. Talks like a slut and keeps name of God. What a shame we have to co-exist with such cross breeds in this world, and that too how they get access to Astrology columns, God knows.What a creep.Parasite of the lowest order. Dear Bharat Kumarji, You do not blame me. I have requested many times to this person not to continue this, and I have used initially very good language, but some people dont understand sweetnes, they have then to be dealt with the other way. Dhol,Ganwar,Shudra,Pashu,Naari(Only Bad ones), Sakal Tadna ke adhikari. If he continues, then I am sorry I will have to reveal many things about him, he himself may not be knowing. Fight with astrology as a tool, and not with dirty words, this is unbecoming. regards, Bhaskar. , "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d wrote: > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received ('From the > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive other mails > with that troll's messages attached. > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > Cheers, > Ramapriya > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish this > > thread > > here itself. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Bhaskar Only when one stops, the other shall too. Reactions always create misery. Acceptance creates Harmony. You all may have different thoughts, but it should not create a conflict. If it has, please end it now. This is only my humble request and I am neither the moderator nor anyone to teach you or others anything. Let us study Astrology proactively. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/29/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > "From the turd" > > Look at his language. Looks like cleans turds of people > and earns money.This guy can get a job anywhere in the world. > Such people should be thrown in places where the apana > Vayu gets full use in the bodys system. > This guy is the by product of abhorginees and that too multi > linguistic. Not himself sure where is his origin. Thats > why he is using such language all the time. We can understand > his origins where they must be, cause he loves turd and pythons. > I am sure he was thrown by the manufacturers himself as soon > as they found him unlucky. Dosent know himself whether he is from East > or west. Still searching. Talks like a slut and keeps name of God. > What a shame we have to co-exist with such cross breeds in this > world, and that too how they get access to Astrology columns, God > knows.What a creep.Parasite of the lowest order. > > Dear Bharat Kumarji, > > You do not blame me. I have requested many times to this person > not to continue this, and I have used initially > very good language, but some people dont understand sweetnes, they > have then to be dealt with the other way. > > Dhol,Ganwar,Shudra,Pashu,Naari(Only Bad ones), > Sakal Tadna ke adhikari. > > If he continues, then I am sorry I will have to reveal many > things about him, he himself may not be knowing. > > Fight with astrology as a tool, and not with dirty words, > this is unbecoming. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > <%40>, "D > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d > wrote: > > > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received > ('From the > > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive > other mails > > with that troll's messages attached. > > > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > > > Cheers, > > Ramapriya > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish > this > > > thread > > > here itself. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Shri Bharat Ji, Namaskaar to You too Sir. Even I wish for peace and harmony in this Forum. I am ending again here, right now, this conflict,respecting Your wise and good counsel. Thanks. and regards, Bhaskar. , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Bhaskar > > Only when one stops, the other shall too. Reactions always create misery. > Acceptance creates Harmony. You all may have different thoughts, but it > should not create a conflict. > > If it has, please end it now. This is only my humble request and I am > neither the moderator nor anyone to teach you or others anything. > > Let us study Astrology proactively. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 11/29/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > > "From the turd" > > > > Look at his language. Looks like cleans turds of people > > and earns money.This guy can get a job anywhere in the world. > > Such people should be thrown in places where the apana > > Vayu gets full use in the bodys system. > > This guy is the by product of abhorginees and that too multi > > linguistic. Not himself sure where is his origin. Thats > > why he is using such language all the time. We can understand > > his origins where they must be, cause he loves turd and pythons. > > I am sure he was thrown by the manufacturers himself as soon > > as they found him unlucky. Dosent know himself whether he is from East > > or west. Still searching. Talks like a slut and keeps name of God. > > What a shame we have to co-exist with such cross breeds in this > > world, and that too how they get access to Astrology columns, God > > knows.What a creep.Parasite of the lowest order. > > > > Dear Bharat Kumarji, > > > > You do not blame me. I have requested many times to this person > > not to continue this, and I have used initially > > very good language, but some people dont understand sweetnes, they > > have then to be dealt with the other way. > > > > Dhol,Ganwar,Shudra,Pashu,Naari(Only Bad ones), > > Sakal Tadna ke adhikari. > > > > If he continues, then I am sorry I will have to reveal many > > things about him, he himself may not be knowing. > > > > Fight with astrology as a tool, and not with dirty words, > > this is unbecoming. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > <% 40>, "D > > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received > > ('From the > > > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive > > other mails > > > with that troll's messages attached. > > > > > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish > > this > > > > thread > > > > here itself. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Bharat, I have to interject here - your statement is not correct in this specific case nor universally true. >>>Only when one stops, the other shall too.<<< This is not necessarily the case at any time (as in it does not necessarily hold true for any debate, aside from this argument), and neither have I seen it to be in this exchange either. One has tried to stop, and the other has continued. I'll say no more. Sateesh. ======== - Bharat Hindu Astrology Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:51 AM Re: Re: for CHANDRASEKHARJI Namaskaar Sri Bhaskar Only when one stops, the other shall too. Reactions always create misery. Acceptance creates Harmony. You all may have different thoughts, but it should not create a conflict. If it has, please end it now. This is only my humble request and I am neither the moderator nor anyone to teach you or others anything. Let us study Astrology proactively. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/29/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > "From the turd" > > Look at his language. Looks like cleans turds of people > and earns money.This guy can get a job anywhere in the world. > Such people should be thrown in places where the apana > Vayu gets full use in the bodys system. > This guy is the by product of abhorginees and that too multi > linguistic. Not himself sure where is his origin. Thats > why he is using such language all the time. We can understand > his origins where they must be, cause he loves turd and pythons. > I am sure he was thrown by the manufacturers himself as soon > as they found him unlucky. Dosent know himself whether he is from East > or west. Still searching. Talks like a slut and keeps name of God. > What a shame we have to co-exist with such cross breeds in this > world, and that too how they get access to Astrology columns, God > knows.What a creep.Parasite of the lowest order. > > Dear Bharat Kumarji, > > You do not blame me. I have requested many times to this person > not to continue this, and I have used initially > very good language, but some people dont understand sweetnes, they > have then to be dealt with the other way. > > Dhol,Ganwar,Shudra,Pashu,Naari(Only Bad ones), > Sakal Tadna ke adhikari. > > If he continues, then I am sorry I will have to reveal many > things about him, he himself may not be knowing. > > Fight with astrology as a tool, and not with dirty words, > this is unbecoming. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > <%40>, "D > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d > wrote: > > > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received > ('From the > > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive > other mails > > with that troll's messages attached. > > > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > > > Cheers, > > Ramapriya > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish > this > > > thread > > > here itself. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Namaste Sri Sateesh Let it not be true, if it works in this case, I'll be satisfied and I hope it does. Let us get back to Astrology and better discussions. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/29/06, Sateesh Batas <makaras (AT) ukonline (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > > I have to interject here - your statement is not correct in this specific > case nor universally true. > > >>>Only when one stops, the other shall too.<<< > > This is not necessarily the case at any time (as in it does not > necessarily hold true for any debate, aside from this argument), and neither > have I seen it to be in this exchange either. One has tried to stop, and the > other has continued. > > I'll say no more. > > Sateesh. > > ======== > > > - > Bharat Hindu Astrology > <%40> > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:51 AM > Re: Re: for CHANDRASEKHARJI > > Namaskaar Sri Bhaskar > > Only when one stops, the other shall too. Reactions always create misery. > Acceptance creates Harmony. You all may have different thoughts, but it > should not create a conflict. > > If it has, please end it now. This is only my humble request and I am > neither the moderator nor anyone to teach you or others anything. > > Let us study Astrology proactively. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 11/29/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in<bhaskar_jyotish%40.co.in>> > wrote: > > > > > > "From the turd" > > > > Look at his language. Looks like cleans turds of people > > and earns money.This guy can get a job anywhere in the world. > > Such people should be thrown in places where the apana > > Vayu gets full use in the bodys system. > > This guy is the by product of abhorginees and that too multi > > linguistic. Not himself sure where is his origin. Thats > > why he is using such language all the time. We can understand > > his origins where they must be, cause he loves turd and pythons. > > I am sure he was thrown by the manufacturers himself as soon > > as they found him unlucky. Dosent know himself whether he is from East > > or west. Still searching. Talks like a slut and keeps name of God. > > What a shame we have to co-exist with such cross breeds in this > > world, and that too how they get access to Astrology columns, God > > knows.What a creep.Parasite of the lowest order. > > > > Dear Bharat Kumarji, > > > > You do not blame me. I have requested many times to this person > > not to continue this, and I have used initially > > very good language, but some people dont understand sweetnes, they > > have then to be dealt with the other way. > > > > Dhol,Ganwar,Shudra,Pashu,Naari(Only Bad ones), > > Sakal Tadna ke adhikari. > > > > If he continues, then I am sorry I will have to reveal many > > things about him, he himself may not be knowing. > > > > Fight with astrology as a tool, and not with dirty words, > > this is unbecoming. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > <%40><%40>, "D > > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d > > wrote: > > > > > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received > > ('From the > > > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive > > other mails > > > with that troll's messages attached. > > > > > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish > > this > > > > thread > > > > here itself. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Bharat, Certainly, I hope it does work in this case :-) , even if it does not 100% in every case. Cheers - Sateesh. ======== - Bharat Hindu Astrology Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:09 AM Re: Re: for CHANDRASEKHARJI Namaste Sri Sateesh Let it not be true, if it works in this case, I'll be satisfied and I hope it does. Let us get back to Astrology and better discussions. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/29/06, Sateesh Batas <makaras (AT) ukonline (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > > I have to interject here - your statement is not correct in this specific > case nor universally true. > > >>>Only when one stops, the other shall too.<<< > > This is not necessarily the case at any time (as in it does not > necessarily hold true for any debate, aside from this argument), and neither > have I seen it to be in this exchange either. One has tried to stop, and the > other has continued. > > I'll say no more. > > Sateesh. > > ======== > > > - > Bharat Hindu Astrology > <%40> > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:51 AM > Re: Re: for CHANDRASEKHARJI > > Namaskaar Sri Bhaskar > > Only when one stops, the other shall too. Reactions always create misery. > Acceptance creates Harmony. You all may have different thoughts, but it > should not create a conflict. > > If it has, please end it now. This is only my humble request and I am > neither the moderator nor anyone to teach you or others anything. > > Let us study Astrology proactively. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 11/29/06, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in<bhaskar_jyotish%40.co.in>> > wrote: > > > > > > "From the turd" > > > > Look at his language. Looks like cleans turds of people > > and earns money.This guy can get a job anywhere in the world. > > Such people should be thrown in places where the apana > > Vayu gets full use in the bodys system. > > This guy is the by product of abhorginees and that too multi > > linguistic. Not himself sure where is his origin. Thats > > why he is using such language all the time. We can understand > > his origins where they must be, cause he loves turd and pythons. > > I am sure he was thrown by the manufacturers himself as soon > > as they found him unlucky. Dosent know himself whether he is from East > > or west. Still searching. Talks like a slut and keeps name of God. > > What a shame we have to co-exist with such cross breeds in this > > world, and that too how they get access to Astrology columns, God > > knows.What a creep.Parasite of the lowest order. > > > > Dear Bharat Kumarji, > > > > You do not blame me. I have requested many times to this person > > not to continue this, and I have used initially > > very good language, but some people dont understand sweetnes, they > > have then to be dealt with the other way. > > > > Dhol,Ganwar,Shudra,Pashu,Naari(Only Bad ones), > > Sakal Tadna ke adhikari. > > > > If he continues, then I am sorry I will have to reveal many > > things about him, he himself may not be knowing. > > > > Fight with astrology as a tool, and not with dirty words, > > this is unbecoming. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > <%40><%40>, "D > > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d > > wrote: > > > > > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received > > ('From the > > > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive > > other mails > > > with that troll's messages attached. > > > > > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish > > this > > > > thread > > > > here itself. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Ramapriya I am disturbed by your malicious, spiteful and the extremely black sarcasm that you have used in your recent posts with reference to Bhaskarji. Whatever weaknesses he may have they are incomparable to the vermin-esque stance that you have adopted which is totally of vogue with the tone of this list. Please refrain from your malefic compulsions however difficult they may be to resist. I can assure you that your are the only sadist soul that is deriving any iota of amusement from your petulant messages. , "D Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d wrote: > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received ('From the > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive other mails > with that troll's messages attached. > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > Cheers, > Ramapriya > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish this > > thread > > here itself. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Namaste Sri Atma Gyan Sir, the matter has stopped and please get back to Astrology discussions. No point in such emails. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 11/29/06, atma_gnan <atma_gnan > wrote: > > Dear Ramapriya > > I am disturbed by your malicious, spiteful and the extremely black > sarcasm that you have used in your recent posts with reference to > Bhaskarji. Whatever weaknesses he may have they are incomparable to > the vermin-esque stance that you have adopted which is totally of > vogue with the tone of this list. > > Please refrain from your malefic compulsions however difficult they > may be to resist. I can assure you that your are the only sadist > soul that is deriving any iota of amusement from your petulant > messages. > > <%40>, "D > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d > wrote: > > > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received > ('From the > > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive > other mails > > with that troll's messages attached. > > > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > > > Cheers, > > Ramapriya > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish > this > > > thread > > > here itself. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Bharatji The point of such an email is in fact profound, as despite constant requests from Bhaskarji, Pandit Arjun to end the matter Ramapriya has persistently prolonged the issue with cheap shots. This, as you have mentioned is not in line with the attitude/mannerisms expected in a forum which is graced with so many leanred astrologers. I have said my bit and it has ended there. No need to respond. , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Atma Gyan > > Sir, the matter has stopped and please get back to Astrology discussions. No > point in such emails. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 11/29/06, atma_gnan <atma_gnan wrote: > > > > Dear Ramapriya > > > > I am disturbed by your malicious, spiteful and the extremely black > > sarcasm that you have used in your recent posts with reference to > > Bhaskarji. Whatever weaknesses he may have they are incomparable to > > the vermin-esque stance that you have adopted which is totally of > > vogue with the tone of this list. > > > > Please refrain from your malefic compulsions however difficult they > > may be to resist. I can assure you that your are the only sadist > > soul that is deriving any iota of amusement from your petulant > > messages. > > > > <% 40>, "D > > Ramapriya" <ramapriya.d@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yikes! You just forwarded me something that I hadn't received > > ('From the > > > turd', 'Delete from server' in operation). I hope not to receive > > other mails > > > with that troll's messages attached. > > > > > > I utterly concur with you, btw. Well put. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Ramapriya > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskaar Sri Rampriya, Sri Chandrashekhar and Sri Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Such emails have no value and I request you all to please finish > > this > > > > thread > > > > here itself. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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