Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 hi everyone ! i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this forum, can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, and if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , why so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) 31 oct 1978 Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA 19:10 your views are invited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Please refrain from being childish by sending these sort of "challenges" --- Suneel Hooda <suneelhooda (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > hi everyone ! > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers > on this forum, > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is > married or not, and > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if > not married , why > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > 31 oct 1978 > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > 19:10 > > your views are invited > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dear Suneel ji Namskaar I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it through this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can understand my mistake. according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love marriage -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th lord both are aspected by exalted jupiter --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the lagna lord and is placed in trine --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are conjoined in 7th house which indicates love marriage --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in 6th house(12th from 7th). -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying sukh bhava --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house the married life of the native is usually never happy --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord Mercury is in 7th which is not considered good with best of my regards chand , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda wrote: > > hi everyone ! > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this forum, > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, and > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , why > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > 31 oct 1978 > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > 19:10 > > your views are invited > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound astrological approach is very impressive. This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking relations). 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone. Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for marriage" as its very general. 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi and in navansha will help resolve problems. Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by being under malefic influences. So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a good marriage. The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the relationship crumbled before marriage. you did great ! I think info on the country, background of the person would have also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached differently in western countries. It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to consider before prognosticating. , "caprimoon_lady" <caprimoon_lady wrote: > > Dear Suneel ji > Namskaar > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it through > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > understand my mistake. > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > marriage > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th lord > both are aspected by exalted jupiter > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the lagna > lord and is placed in trine > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are conjoined > in 7th house which indicates love marriage > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > 6th house(12th from 7th). > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > sukh bhava > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > the married life of the native is usually never happy > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord Mercury > is in 7th which is not considered good > with best of my regards > chand > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > wrote: > > > > hi everyone ! > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this forum, > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > and > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > why > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978 > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > > 19:10 > > > > your views are invited > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dear Suneel ji Thank you very much for your compliments.You made us to try and learn this subject by this way.I never knew from your data that this person is staying abroad.Of course Desh Kaal Patra is very important in astrology otherwise we would fail in our perdictions. You are right that 5th lord is aspected by Jupiter in rashi and in navamsha.In this regard i have to say that 5th house in Navamsha is also having mars and Karaka for children Jupiter is in trik house.that's why i said that the native will have problems relating to progeny again thank you very much as i also have learnt from you certain points regards chand , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda wrote: > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive. > This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations). > 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone. > > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems. > Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences. > > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage. > The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage. > > you did great ! > > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries. > It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating. > > > > > > > > > > , "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote: > > > > Dear Suneel ji > > Namskaar > > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake. > > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage > > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter > > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine > > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter > > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage > > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house > > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th). > > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava > > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy > > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good > > with best of my regards > > chand > > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote: > > > > > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum, > > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978 > > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > > > 19:10 > > > > > > your views are invited > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme wrote: > > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Chand, > > Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Suneel Hooda > > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge > > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive. > This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations). > 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone. > > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems. > Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences. > > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage. > The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage. > > you did great ! > > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries. > It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating. > > , "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote: > > > > Dear Suneel ji > > Namskaar > > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake. > > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage > > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter > > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine > > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter > > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage > > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house > > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th). > > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava > > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy > > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good > > with best of my regards > > chand > > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote: > > > > > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum, > > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978 > > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > > > 19:10 > > > > > > your views are invited > > > > > > || Jaya jagannatha || Namaskar Gurujis, Kurusnaji's Astavarga based practising astrologers believe that Venus and the Sun combo within there degrees gives less / no inclination towards marriage matters. sarasalai_siva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Dear All and Rafal ji HARE KRISHNA !! I also want to express my views on this i am just a learner in astrology so if there is mistakes please forgive me, . I found that Sun -Venus yuti is not good for marriage in any house. and in the concern chart i have seen that Neecha Sun and Venus is in 6th house along with moon.Not good. As they are in 6th house means 12th from 7th house and i hope we all know the importance of 12th house in married life. Rahu in 5th house so definatly will give love affairs.but venus is in 6th house never give stablity in the affairs and will give relationship outside. So Any kind of association (partnership or Lover affair etc) will not go in longer term. And moreover Venus in 6th house is in Marankaran Avastha and Retrograde too which is again not good for married life and with Neecha Surya. so love affair will never sucess and love affair never turn into marriage. But one thing i can say if this person will do arrange marriage then marriage will never broke. There is not much happiness from marriage but there is no breakup in the marriage. Regards Neel Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Chand, Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Suneel Hooda Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound astrological approach is very impressive. This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking relations). 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone. Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for marriage" as its very general. 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi and in navansha will help resolve problems. Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by being under malefic influences. So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a good marriage. The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the relationship crumbled before marriage. you did great ! I think info on the country, background of the person would have also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached differently in western countries. It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to consider before prognosticating. , "caprimoon_lady" <caprimoon_lady wrote: > > Dear Suneel ji > Namskaar > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it through > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > understand my mistake. > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > marriage > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th lord > both are aspected by exalted jupiter > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the lagna > lord and is placed in trine > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are conjoined > in 7th house which indicates love marriage > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > 6th house(12th from 7th). > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > sukh bhava > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > the married life of the native is usually never happy > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord Mercury > is in 7th which is not considered good > with best of my regards > chand > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > wrote: > > > > hi everyone ! > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this forum, > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > and > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > why > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978 > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > > 19:10 > > > > your views are invited > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear neel, good analysis! I am glad you found this exercise interesting, and it contributed to your understanding of the subject. As you will learn with time, a fatalistic tone is not really needed, your astrological approach is sound enough to put your points across, what is in store for this person we can only speculate for ..."who else except brahma knows for certainity what will definately happen" !, good job though, Thanks everyone for being involved in this case, i am starting another thread and i would love to hear all your views on it, , Neel_Nonu <neel_nonu wrote: > > Dear All and Rafal ji > > HARE KRISHNA !! > > I also want to express my views on this > i am just a learner in astrology so if there is mistakes please forgive me, . > > I found that Sun -Venus yuti is not good for marriage in any house. and in the concern chart i have seen that Neecha Sun and Venus is in 6th house along with moon.Not good. > > As they are in 6th house means 12th from 7th house and i hope we all know the importance of 12th house in married life. Rahu in 5th house so definatly will give love affairs.but venus is in 6th house never give stablity in the affairs and will give relationship outside. > > So Any kind of association (partnership or Lover affair etc) will not go in longer term. And moreover Venus in 6th house is in Marankaran Avastha and Retrograde too which is again not good for married life and with Neecha Surya. so love affair will never sucess and love affair never turn into marriage. > But one thing i can say if this person will do arrange marriage then marriage will never broke. There is not much happiness from marriage but there is no breakup in the marriage. > > Regards > Neel > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > hraum namah adityaya > Dear Chand, > > Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Suneel Hooda > > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge > > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive. > This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations). > 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone. > > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems. > Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences. > > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage. > The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage. > > you did great ! > > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries. > It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating. > > , "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote: > > > > Dear Suneel ji > > Namskaar > > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake. > > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage > > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter > > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine > > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter > > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage > > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house > > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th). > > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava > > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy > > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good > > with best of my regards > > chand > > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote: > > > > > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum, > > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978 > > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > > > 19:10 > > > > > > your views are invited > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 SRI MATA Dear Suneel, I read your analises and my curiosity is awakend by reading that there is a difference between a "love" marriage and an arranged marrige for this person in the outcome of his marriage. My questions are: a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes? b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope? c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act? Job Rodenburg From: suneelhooda (AT) (DOT) co.inDate: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:02:04 +0000[Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge Dear neel, good analysis! I am glad you found this exercise interesting, and it contributed to your understanding of the subject.As you will learn with time, a fatalistic tone is not really needed, your astrological approach is sound enough to put your points across, what is in store for this person we can only speculate for ..."who else except brahma knows for certainity what will definately happen" !, good job though,Thanks everyone for being involved in this case, i am starting another thread and i would love to hear all your views on it,, Neel_Nonu <neel_nonu wrote:>> Dear All and Rafal ji > > HARE KRISHNA !!> > I also want to express my views on this> i am just a learner in astrology so if there is mistakes please forgive me, . > > I found that Sun -Venus yuti is not good for marriage in any house. and in the concern chart i have seen that Neecha Sun and Venus is in 6th house along with moon.Not good. > > As they are in 6th house means 12th from 7th house and i hope we all know the importance of 12th house in married life. Rahu in 5th house so definatly will give love affairs.but venus is in 6th house never give stablity in the affairs and will give relationship outside. > > So Any kind of association (partnership or Lover affair etc) will not go in longer term. And moreover Venus in 6th house is in Marankaran Avastha and Retrograde too which is again not good for married life and with Neecha Surya. so love affair will never sucess and love affair never turn into marriage. > But one thing i can say if this person will do arrange marriage then marriage will never broke. There is not much happiness from marriage but there is no breakup in the marriage. > > Regards> Neel> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Chand,> > Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > - > Suneel Hooda > > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge> > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive.> This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations).> 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone.> > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems.> Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences.> > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage.> The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage.> > you did great !> > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries.> It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating.> > , "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote:> >> > Dear Suneel ji> > Namskaar> > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake.> > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage> > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter> > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine> > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter> > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage> > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house> > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th).> > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava> > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy> > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good> > with best of my regards> > chand> > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote:> > >> > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum,> > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978> > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA> > > 19:10> > > > > > your views are invited> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> _______________ Probeer Live.com: je eigen snelle startpagina met alles wat jij belangrijk vindt op één plek. http://www.live.com/getstarted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Job, the analyses that you are mentioning was done by "neel" , and he is the best person to answer your questions, but i could express some thoughts- based on my practise in the west, 1) some people have a propensity for relationships, those that have moon/venus influence on the lagna/LL or 5th-7h house associations etc. etc. / such natives are by nature romantic and seek companionship and mates on their own. 2) some people are just the opposite, influence of saturn on moon/lagna/lagna lord etc. - they are uptight about approaching someone casually and usually its left to the parents and friends to introduce someone to them. 3) depending on these influences, there are many people who are on either end of the spectrum or somewhere in the middle. In certain socities like india, the marriages are arranged by the parents, usually by taking the child's views into consideration, of course all major events like marriages & their timing is always clearly indicated in horoscopes, so that proves that finally all "arrangements" are done by the planets or in other words by the native's own karma , job rodenburg <rodenburgjob wrote: > > SRI MATA > Dear Suneel, > > I read your analises and my curiosity is awakend by reading that there is a difference between a "love" marriage and an arranged marrige for this person in the outcome of his marriage. > > My questions are: > > a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes? > b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope? > c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act? > > Job Rodenburg > > > > > : suneelhooda: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:02:04 +0000[Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge > > > > > Dear neel, good analysis! I am glad you found this exercise interesting, and it contributed to your understanding of the subject.As you will learn with time, a fatalistic tone is not really needed, your astrological approach is sound enough to put your points across, what is in store for this person we can only speculate for ..."who else except brahma knows for certainity what will definately happen" !, good job though,Thanks everyone for being involved in this case, i am starting another thread and i would love to hear all your views on it,, Neel_Nonu <neel_nonu@> wrote:>> Dear All and Rafal ji > > HARE KRISHNA !!> > I also want to express my views on this> i am just a learner in astrology so if there is mistakes please forgive me, . > > I found that Sun -Venus yuti is not good for marriage in any house. and in the concern chart i have seen that Neecha Sun and Venus is in 6th house along with moon.Not good. > > As they are in 6th house means 12th from 7th house and i hope we all know the importance of 12th house in married life. Rahu in 5th house so definatly will give love affairs.but venus is in 6th house never give stablity in the affairs and will give relationship outside. > > So Any kind of association (partnership or Lover affair etc) will not go in longer term. And moreover Venus in 6th house is in Marankaran Avastha and Retrograde too which is again not good for married life and with Neecha Surya. so love affair will never sucess and love affair never turn into marriage. > But one thing i can say if this person will do arrange marriage then marriage will never broke. There is not much happiness from marriage but there is no breakup in the marriage. > > Regards> Neel> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Chand,> > Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > - > Suneel Hooda > > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge> > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive.> This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations).> 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone.> > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems.> Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences.> > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage.> The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage.> > you did great !> > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries.> It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating.> > , "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote:> >> > Dear Suneel ji> > Namskaar> > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake.> > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage> > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter> > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine> > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter> > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage> > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house> > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th).> > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava> > -- I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy> > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good> > with best of my regards> > chand> > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote:> > >> > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum,> > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978> > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA> > > 19:10> > > > > > your views are invited> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> > > > _______________ > Probeer Live.com: je eigen snelle startpagina met alles wat jij belangrijk vindt op één plek. > http://www.live.com/getstarted > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Hi Suneel thanks for giving me chance to give reply on this. Hi Job Here is answers of your queries: Yes there is difference between love marriage and arrange marriage. And here is answers of your questions are : My questions are: a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes? Yes Venus in 6th house in any horoscope never give stablity and sucess in love affairs. so if someone go against this rule ( i mean love marriage) then breakup will be there OR person is neglect by husband/wife, no happiness from that marriage.and becz of this married life never goes good. So in this case the only solution is arrange marriage b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope? Here your thinking is correct. yes we take dharma from our parents. and moreover when planet got some duty from nature to perform some role in your horoscope then they will act like that only (i.e. Venus in 6th house always give breakup in love affairs so how love marriage can be sucessful). so we have to think for logical solutions. c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act? Somewhere yes becz when we made some plans to do the arrangements then we will perform some rituals which is done by our elders and these things give effect in our life I hope i have cleared all the queries if you want to know more pls let me know i will try to explain you with my best knowledge. Regards Neel Suneel Hooda <suneelhooda (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Job, the analyses that you are mentioning was done by "neel" , and he is the best person to answer your questions, but i could express some thoughts- based on my practise in the west, 1) some people have a propensity for relationships, those that have moon/venus influence on the lagna/LL or 5th-7h house associations etc. etc. / such natives are by nature romantic and seek companionship and mates on their own. 2) some people are just the opposite, influence of saturn on moon/lagna/lagna lord etc. - they are uptight about approaching someone casually and usually its left to the parents and friends to introduce someone to them. 3) depending on these influences, there are many people who are on either end of the spectrum or somewhere in the middle. In certain socities like india, the marriages are arranged by the parents, usually by taking the child's views into consideration, of course all major events like marriages & their timing is always clearly indicated in horoscopes, so that proves that finally all "arrangements" are done by the planets or in other words by the native's own karma , job rodenburg <rodenburgjob wrote: > > SRI MATA > Dear Suneel, > > I read your analises and my curiosity is awakend by reading that there is a difference between a "love" marriage and an arranged marrige for this person in the outcome of his marriage. > > My questions are: > > a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes? > b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope? > c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act? > > Job Rodenburg > > > > > : suneelhooda: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:02:04 +0000[Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge > > > > > Dear neel, good analysis! I am glad you found this exercise interesting, and it contributed to your understanding of the subject.As you will learn with time, a fatalistic tone is not really needed, your astrological approach is sound enough to put your points across, what is in store for this person we can only speculate for ..."who else except brahma knows for certainity what will definately happen" !, good job though,Thanks everyone for being involved in this case, i am starting another thread and i would love to hear all your views on it,, Neel_Nonu <neel_nonu@> wrote:>> Dear All and Rafal ji > > HARE KRISHNA !!> > I also want to express my views on this> i am just a learner in astrology so if there is mistakes please forgive me, . > > I found that Sun -Venus yuti is not good for marriage in any house. and in the concern chart i have seen that Neecha Sun and Venus is in 6th house along with moon.Not good. > > As they are in 6th house means 12th from 7th house and i hope we all know the importance of 12th house in married life. Rahu in 5th house so definatly will give love affairs.but venus is in 6th house never give stablity in the affairs and will give relationship outside. > > So Any kind of association (partnership or Lover affair etc) will not go in longer term. And moreover Venus in 6th house is in Marankaran Avastha and Retrograde too which is again not good for married life and with Neecha Surya. so love affair will never sucess and love affair never turn into marriage. > But one thing i can say if this person will do arrange marriage then marriage will never broke. There is not much happiness from marriage but there is no breakup in the marriage. > > Regards> Neel> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Chand,> > Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > - > Suneel Hooda > > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge> > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive.> This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations).> 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone.> > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems.> Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences.> > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage.> The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage.> > you did great !> > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries.> It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating.> > , "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote:> >> > Dear Suneel ji> > Namskaar> > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake.> > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage> > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter> > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine> > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter> > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage> > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house> > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th).> > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava> > -- I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy> > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good> > with best of my regards> > chand> > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote:> > >> > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum,> > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978> > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA> > > 19:10> > > > > > your views are invited> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> > > > ________ > Probeer Live.com: je eigen snelle startpagina met alles wat jij belangrijk vindt op één plek. > http://www.live.com/getstarted > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Neel, Namaskar! I agree that Venus in 6th is a problem, BUT I am curuious about how you came to the prediction that love marriage will fail and arranged marriage will work. Can you elaborate? Since, the marriage is Vivaha once it happens- seen from UL. And stability- 2nd from UL. Warm regards, Pranav Neel_Nonu <neel_nonu (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Suneel thanks for giving me chance to give reply on this. Hi Job Here is answers of your queries: Yes there is difference between love marriage and arrange marriage. And here is answers of your questions are : My questions are: a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes? Yes Venus in 6th house in any horoscope never give stablity and sucess in love affairs. so if someone go against this rule ( i mean love marriage) then breakup will be there OR person is neglect by husband/wife, no happiness from that marriage.and becz of this married life never goes good. So in this case the only solution is arrange marriage b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope? Here your thinking is correct. yes we take dharma from our parents. and moreover when planet got some duty from nature to perform some role in your horoscope then they will act like that only (i.e. Venus in 6th house always give breakup in love affairs so how love marriage can be sucessful). so we have to think for logical solutions. c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act? Somewhere yes becz when we made some plans to do the arrangements then we will perform some rituals which is done by our elders and these things give effect in our life I hope i have cleared all the queries if you want to know more pls let me know i will try to explain you with my best knowledge. Regards Neel Suneel Hooda <suneelhooda (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Job, the analyses that you are mentioning was done by "neel" , and he is the best person to answer your questions, but i could express some thoughts- based on my practise in the west, 1) some people have a propensity for relationships, those that have moon/venus influence on the lagna/LL or 5th-7h house associations etc. etc. / such natives are by nature romantic and seek companionship and mates on their own. 2) some people are just the opposite, influence of saturn on moon/lagna/lagna lord etc. - they are uptight about approaching someone casually and usually its left to the parents and friends to introduce someone to them. 3) depending on these influences, there are many people who are on either end of the spectrum or somewhere in the middle. In certain socities like india, the marriages are arranged by the parents, usually by taking the child's views into consideration, of course all major events like marriages & their timing is always clearly indicated in horoscopes, so that proves that finally all "arrangements" are done by the planets or in other words by the native's own karma , job rodenburg <rodenburgjob wrote: > > SRI MATA > Dear Suneel, > > I read your analises and my curiosity is awakend by reading that there is a difference between a "love" marriage and an arranged marrige for this person in the outcome of his marriage. > > My questions are: > > a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes? > b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope? > c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act? > > Job Rodenburg > > > > > : suneelhooda: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:02:04 +0000[Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge > > > > > Dear neel, good analysis! I am glad you found this exercise interesting, and it contributed to your understanding of the subject.As you will learn with time, a fatalistic tone is not really needed, your astrological approach is sound enough to put your points across, what is in store for this person we can only speculate for ..."who else except brahma knows for certainity what will definately happen" !, good job though,Thanks everyone for being involved in this case, i am starting another thread and i would love to hear all your views on it,, Neel_Nonu <neel_nonu@> wrote:>> Dear All and Rafal ji > > HARE KRISHNA !!> > I also want to express my views on this> i am just a learner in astrology so if there is mistakes please forgive me, . > > I found that Sun -Venus yuti is not good for marriage in any house. and in the concern chart i have seen that Neecha Sun and Venus is in 6th house along with moon.Not good. > > As they are in 6th house means 12th from 7th house and i hope we all know the importance of 12th house in married life. Rahu in 5th house so definatly will give love affairs.but venus is in 6th house never give stablity in the affairs and will give relationship outside. > > So Any kind of association (partnership or Lover affair etc) will not go in longer term. And moreover Venus in 6th house is in Marankaran Avastha and Retrograde too which is again not good for married life and with Neecha Surya. so love affair will never sucess and love affair never turn into marriage. > But one thing i can say if this person will do arrange marriage then marriage will never broke. There is not much happiness from marriage but there is no breakup in the marriage. > > Regards> Neel> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Chand,> > Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > - > Suneel Hooda > > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge> > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive.> This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations).> 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone.> > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems.> Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences.> > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage.> The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage.> > you did great !> > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries.> It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating.> > , "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote:> >> > Dear Suneel ji> > Namskaar> > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake.> > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage> > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter> > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine> > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter> > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage> > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house> > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th).> > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava> > -- I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy> > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good> > with best of my regards> > chand> > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote:> > >> > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum,> > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978> > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA> > > 19:10> > > > > > your views are invited> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> > > > ________ > Probeer Live.com: je eigen snelle startpagina met alles wat jij belangrijk vindt op één plek. > http://www.live.com/getstarted > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 SRI MAATAA Thank you Neel and members for your useful writtings. I try to understand the astrological elements that makes a marriage a love marriage or an “arranged” marriage. So I would like to setup those aspects which in my vieuw would make this diffence? This may be right/wrong or insufficiant, but I would like to understand! So I ask your comments. Or is India, where marriages are/used to be arranged the land where Sanathana Dharma just is able to florrish, while in the West (Saturn) it does not? Job's writting: Lagna is aspected by Saturn, Rahu, Mars, Mercury with Planet aspect and by Sun, Moon, Venus and Jupiter with Rasi aspect. (Many (all) Planets aspect Lagna (gives strength)) (Kendra are occupied by malefics. (bad) adds no strength to Horoscope) Sun Lord of Kendra in Dusthana Neecha(Bhanga) in between malefics Rahu, Mars and merc. Moon L3 “new” Moon in Dusthana. Jupiter exalted in MKS Navamsa: Navamsa Lagna receives Rasi aspect from Jupiter, Sun and Mars LL When Dharma is strong, it means that Trines, Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Navamsa are strong. When these are strong a marriage is supported eventually an arranged marriage? Conclusion for Dharma: Sun and Jupiter have a Rasi aspect towards Lagna but Jupiter is in MKS (lifeless) and Sun is in debilitation and gets Neecha Bhanga through Saturn in 4th House and also through Mars in own House. So if Sun has to obtain strength to provide Dharma in the Horoscope it is though Saturn and Mars! Saturn in bitter enemies Sign and Mars in Scorpio a hidden Sign. So Dharma is a very doubtful event to happen. Marital Tie is represented by: 8th House, 2nd House and 12th House.. 8th House has Rasi aspect of Rahu L 8th House Jupiter exalted in MKS L8: Jupiter aspected by Mars and Merc. Rasi aspect. (All bad) .. 2nd House: aspected by Mars (Planet aspect) aspected by Rahu (Rasi aspect) L 2nd House Merc. Together with Mars (All bad) L2 Aspected by Jupiter (bad, but Jupiter can be the savoir) 12th House: aspected by Sun, Moon and Venus LL. (who are aspected by Saturn)(bad) 12 House aspected by Saturn, Mars and Merc. (Rasi aspect) Conclusion: 8th House is destroyed 2nd House: is weak 12 House: is weak. Conclusion: Marriage does not hold. VENUS IN SIXTHJaimini has given a dictum Shasta Shukra Marana Karaka, which says Venus in the 6th becomes Marana Karaka. Why this is so?Sixth is the house of Service and Venus is the karaka of Pleasures, the two opposites. What shall we expect when the chief karaka for pleasure is asked to serve others! In the natural zodiac, 6th is house of debilitation and the sign Virgo symbolizes a virgin (the purest). Hence at this place Venus becomes incapable to enhance its own Karakatva.The two karakas for the 6th, Mars (Enemies) and Saturn (Servant). In the Kalachakra this is clear that Mars obstructs the ayana of Venus. Hence none of the Venusian activity shall be performed in the Mars’s Kala. Moreover Saturn signify hard work, which is not suited to pleasures and luxury seeking Venus and hence she goes to the Marana Avastha, if placed in 6th. Another example from a different point of view: 3rd lord (lord of house of determination) in 6th house (house of overcoming obstacles) means that he will overcome the obstacles with a lot of determination. On the other hand benefics there will be contended and will not overcome obstacles with determination. (malefic Moon is Lord of 3rd and a being “new” Moon.) A positive view is Venus is in a Dusthana 6th House, House of growth: P.S. Generally it is opined that the placement of Shukra, 2nd lord in 3, 6, 7,10 and 11 houses and lagna sympathy should be unaffected in a female horoscope to bestow good fortune after marriage.With regards, but Venus has two enemies conjoined and Saturn aspecting in the horoscope under discussion..D.O.B. 31 oct 1978Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA19:10your views are invited>> From: neel_nonu (AT) (DOT) co.inDate: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 18:03:15 +0000Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge Hi Suneel thanks for giving me chance to give reply on this. Hi Job Here is answers of your queries: Yes there is difference between love marriage and arrange marriage. And here is answers of your questions are : My questions are: a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes? Yes Venus in 6th house in any horoscope never give stablity and sucess in love affairs. so if someone go against this rule ( i mean love marriage) then breakup will be there OR person is neglect by husband/wife, no happiness from that marriage.and becz of this married life never goes good. So in this case the only solution is arrange marriage b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope? Here your thinking is correct. yes we take dharma from our parents. and moreover when planet got some duty from nature to perform some role in your horoscope then they will act like that only (i.e. Venus in 6th house always give breakup in love affairs so how love marriage can be sucessful). so we have to think for logical solutions. c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act? Somewhere yes becz when we made some plans to do the arrangements then we will perform some rituals which is done by our elders and these things give effect in our life I hope i have cleared all the queries if you want to know more pls let me know i will try to explain you with my best knowledge. Regards NeelSuneel Hooda <suneelhooda (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Job, the analyses that you are mentioning was done by "neel" , and he is the best person to answer your questions, but i could express some thoughts- based on my practise in the west,1) some people have a propensity for relationships, those that have moon/venus influence on the lagna/LL or 5th-7h house associations etc. etc. / such natives are by nature romantic and seek companionship and mates on their own.2) some people are just the opposite, influence of saturn on moon/lagna/lagna lord etc. - they are uptight about approaching someone casually and usually its left to the parents and friends to introduce someone to them.3) depending on these influences, there are many people who are on either end of the spectrum or somewhere in the middle..In certain socities like india, the marriages are arranged by the parents, usually by taking the child's views into consideration,of course all major events like marriages & their timing is always clearly indicated in horoscopes, so that proves that finally all "arrangements" are done by the planets or in other words by the native's own karma, job rodenburg <rodenburgjob wrote:>> SRI MATA> Dear Suneel,> > I read your analises and my curiosity is awakend by reading that there is a difference between a "love" marriage and an arranged marrige for this person in the outcome of his marriage.> > My questions are:> > a: Does this occur or count for all horoscopes?> b: Does "arrangement" influence the stream of life (nadi energy) through Darma from parents or advicers in the Horoscope?> c: Is arrangement a Dharmic act?> > Job Rodenburg> > > > > : suneelhooda: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 16:02:04 +0000[Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge> > > > > Dear neel, good analysis! I am glad you found this exercise interesting, and it contributed to your understanding of the subject.As you will learn with time, a fatalistic tone is not really needed, your astrological approach is sound enough to put your points across, what is in store for this person we can only speculate for ..."who else except brahma knows for certainity what will definately happen" !, good job though,Thanks everyone for being involved in this case, i am starting another thread and i would love to hear all your views on it,, Neel_Nonu <neel_nonu@> wrote:>> Dear All and Rafal ji > > HARE KRISHNA !!> > I also want to express my views on this> i am just a learner in astrology so if there is mistakes please forgive me, . > > I found that Sun -Venus yuti is not good for marriage in any house. and in the concern chart i have seen that Neecha Sun and Venus is in 6th house along with moon.Not good. > > As they are in 6th house means 12th from 7th house and i hope we all know the importance of 12th house in married life. Rahu in 5th house so definatly will give love affairs.but venus is in 6th house never give stablity in the affairs and will give relationship outside. > > So Any kind of association (partnership or Lover affair etc) will not go in longer term. And moreover Venus in 6th house is in Marankaran Avastha and Retrograde too which is again not good for married life and with Neecha Surya. so love affair will never sucess and love affair never turn into marriage. > But one thing i can say if this person will do arrange marriage then marriage will never broke. There is not much happiness from marriage but there is no breakup in the marriage. > > Regards> Neel> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Chand,> > Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > - > Suneel Hooda > > Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge> > > Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound > astrological approach is very impressive.> This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely > right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 > broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has > a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking > relations).> 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, > though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone.> > Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight > to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for > marriage" as its very general. > > 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in > future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi > and in navansha will help resolve problems.> Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very > powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by > being under malefic influences.> > So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a > good marriage.> The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the > relationship crumbled before marriage.> > you did great !> > I think info on the country, background of the person would have > also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached > differently in western countries.> It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to > consider before prognosticating.> > (AT) (DOT) .com, "caprimoon_lady" > <caprimoon_lady@> wrote:> >> > Dear Suneel ji> > Namskaar> > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it > through > > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > > understand my mistake.> > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > > marriage> > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th > lord > > both are aspected by exalted jupiter> > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the > lagna > > lord and is placed in trine> > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter> > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are > conjoined > > in 7th house which indicates love marriage> > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house> > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > > 6th house(12th from 7th).> > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > > sukh bhava> > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > > the married life of the native is usually never happy> > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord > Mercury > > is in 7th which is not considered good> > with best of my regards> > chand> > (AT) (DOT) .com, "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > > wrote:> > >> > > hi everyone ! > > > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this > forum,> > > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > > and > > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > > why > > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978> > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA> > > 19:10> > > > > > your views are invited> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> > > > ________> Probeer Live.com: je eigen snelle startpagina met alles wat jij belangrijk vindt op één plek.> http://www.live.com/getstarted> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW _______________ Probeer Live.com: jouw leven online met nieuws, sport, weer en nog veel meer. http://www.live.com/getstarted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 OM NAMAH SHIVA Dear GuruJi, Prnaam. First of all congratulation for becoming SJC Guru. This is all your selfless efforts due to which you are at this respected position. Guruji You have explained that SUN+VENUS combination is good for marriage. But I hv read that when venus and sun are together with little differences of the longitude that time it shows marriage problems as being venus combust. kindly write some more on this...... Thanks and best regards Richa Gupta Om Namah Shivay Richa Gupta Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Friday, 29 December, 2006 6:38:04 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge hraum namah adityaya Dear Chand, Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Suneel Hooda Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound astrological approach is very impressive. This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking relations). 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone. Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for marriage" as its very general. 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi and in navansha will help resolve problems. Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by being under malefic influences. So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a good marriage. The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the relationship crumbled before marriage. you did great ! I think info on the country, background of the person would have also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached differently in western countries. It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to consider before prognosticating. , "caprimoon_lady" <caprimoon_lady@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Suneel ji > Namskaar > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it through > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > understand my mistake. > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > marriage > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th lord > both are aspected by exalted jupiter > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the lagna > lord and is placed in trine > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are conjoined > in 7th house which indicates love marriage > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > 6th house(12th from 7th). > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > sukh bhava > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > the married life of the native is usually never happy > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord Mercury > is in 7th which is not considered good > with best of my regards > chand > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@ > > wrote: > > > > hi everyone ! > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this forum, > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > and > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > why > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978 > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > > 19:10 > > > > your views are invited > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 hraum namah adityaya Dear Chand, Venus and Surya yuti is good for marriage. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Suneel Hooda Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:10 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: a simple astro challenge Dear Chandji, brilliant analyses. I m no expert but your sound astrological approach is very impressive. This is my blood relative's chart who is abroad. You are absolutely right about the 5th-7th house combination results, he has had 2 broken love affairs, (mercury being lord of 2 dual signs always has a tendency to double things & mars is well known for breaking relations). 12th lord in 7th gave relationships with foreigner's both times, though he was never ceremonially engaged to anyone. Also I like your analyses on venus, but I would not give much weight to the statement that "venus-sun combo in any house is bad for marriage" as its very general. 5th house being under nodal axis could create trouble with kids in future but I think the 5th lord being aspected by Jupiter in rasi and in navansha will help resolve problems. Jupiters association or aspect on a house or a lord is very powerful to remove blemishes, unless Jupiter is himself weak by being under malefic influences. So to summarize you said he got into a love marriage and its not a good marriage. The facts are that he did get romantically involved and the relationship crumbled before marriage. you did great ! I think info on the country, background of the person would have also helped you in your analyses, cause relationships are approached differently in western countries. It is rightly said that sthaan and stithi are valid factors to consider before prognosticating. , "caprimoon_lady" <caprimoon_lady wrote: > > Dear Suneel ji > Namskaar > I have gone through your chart and have tried to analyse it.I am a > very much beginner in this subject and am trying to learn it through > this forum.If I am wrong anywhere please guide me so that i can > understand my mistake. > according to me this native is married and his marriage was a love > marriage > -Mars 7th lord is in 7th house,its own house.7th house and 7th lord > both are aspected by exalted jupiter > --In Navamsha (which is a varga chart for marriage) Mars is the lagna > lord and is placed in trine > --In Navamsha 7th lord Venus is again aspected by Jupiter > --For love marriage 5th lord Mercury and 7th lord Mars are conjoined > in 7th house which indicates love marriage > --In Navamsha again Lagna lord Mars is in 5th house > -- But his married life is not good because Karaka venus ® is in > 6th house(12th from 7th). > -Venus is aspected by Saturn from 4th house. Saturn is posited in > inimical sign and aspecting 4th lord sun also.Saturn is destroying > sukh bhava > --I have read in some books that If sun is with Venus in any house > the married life of the native is usually never happy > --as per my observations unhappiness in marriage may be due to > progeny because 5th house is in Rahu ketu axis and 5th lord Mercury > is in 7th which is not considered good > with best of my regards > chand > , "Suneel Hooda" <suneelhooda@> > wrote: > > > > hi everyone ! > > > > i have a simple astro challenge for all astrologers on this forum, > > > > can anyone tell me whether this person (male) is married or not, > and > > if yes how is his married life (mars is in 7th) if not married , > why > > so ? (sat in 4th-vairagya mode?) > > > > > > > > 31 oct 1978 > > Rohtak (76 E 34' 00" 28 N 54' 00"), Haryana INDIA > > 19:10 > > > > your views are invited > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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