Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Dear FMs, The modern man/woman lives in a strange place, in a realm that is unsettling. I am not referring to the world where terrorism is on the rise, and values are confused. I am talking about the confusion that makes it seem conceivable and possible that we as mankind have reached the point where we can destroy the beautiful planet earth the rapid way or the slow way (ecological disasters). If the younger generations seem a bit jaded, a bit too drowned in 'noise' or at least noisy music, perhaps it is a defense mechanism. The real world is so scary that they would rather live in this make believe world of loud and obscene music and lyrics and violent video games, not because they are blood thirsty and violent, but because they know that though loud and violent, the music and the games are really not so scary and anxiety provoking. Not as much as real life is or potentially can be, for some and plausably for all! And they know that neither parents, nor schools nor police or even armies can really save them when the moment of fear arrives. It is painful to feel even for a fleeting moment that uncertainty, that anxiety that fear that the younger generation (born in late eighties and later) feel. Turning to Jyotish, someone recently used the old beaten line about Rishis being somehow all knowing and having written (w)holistically about human experience in their books on jyotish. Now, while hindu scriptures are unarguably profound, I do not see that depth in jyotish texts which are of uncertain origin, and of potentially varying purity or originality. Even technical jyotish points are cursorily and prefunctorily mentioned, case in point being the absence of rationale behind the rules and combinations, the sketchy treatment of vargas and zero examples. It is the <modern> devotee of jyotish that has waxed epiphanous and seen all kinds of deep philosophical possibilities in jyotish writings with devotional fervour. While I salute their zeal and dedication, we all might be overinterpreting jyotish and its purpose as originally surmised by the pioneer jyotishis, including rishis and other sages! The way I have seen jyotish and its framework, it does not clearly state anything too spiritual and a vast fraction of it is devoted to things of concern and interest to the worldly person, the householder, the samsarik prani, you and me! Sure there are some grains of spirituality and combinations for renounciation thrown in, but it is notable that they have been described as combinations that make individuals leave worldliness (renouncing the world, sanyaas) and not as combinations for embracing spirituality, or the higher and only purpose of human birth. Words are important! In recent zealous and somewhat overzealous times, insofar as jyotish is concerned, there has been an explosion and plethora of remedies and religious/ritualistic overtones and overinterpretations galore. Now people are beginning to see all lifetimes and the picture of the entire soul in a horoscope that is based on the birthtime (often inaccurate) that we are experiencing now. If there are so many yonis and births one has to go through, it is indeed putting a lot of pressure on the poor 9 or a little over a dozen (upagrahas thrown into the mix!) indicators that jyotish vouches can explain everything! At least our western astrology brethren (and sorority) are more grounded! They use more planets and some 3000 asteroids even though they do not use those for a full scale holistic spiritual comprehensive interpretation of the Being that is born as a human this time! God and Soul are such ethereal and indescribable concepts that trying to capture them in a specific sign or a planet who has been given a specific attribute seems arrogant to me, if not unwise or at least futile. Yet such is the powerful siren song of devotional mind-set (some would say fundamentalistic thinking!) that people actually think they are carrying out meaningful conversations and discussions when they talk about these ethereal ideas in concrete terms using concrete variables and constants, the kind that jyotish is based upon. And this goes on in a milieu where even basic concrete things that are measurable, comparable and scrutinizable or verifiable are not definitively captured in the astrogram, the horoscope! Sure there will be claims of all kind, but historically, other than a few individuals predictive success has been at best inconstant, variable and almost never guaranteed, other than by bombastic, fly by night operators and some mystics who sincerely believe that they are solely using astrological rules. I know this will not be taken kindly by some, or even many but I must say like I see it. The recent commercialism and politics and attacks and insults that I have seen and experienced on internet jyotish scene had been quite revealing to this student of the human persona and human experience. We glibly call jyotish or for that matter all forms of astrology as science and compare them with pure material sciences such as physics and chemistry, etc. Some even call Math as a science when it is really descriptive, like a language (similar to astrology!). To me a language is something that describes reality as observed and experienced through symbols and expressions and thus a translation or transliteration of DIRECT EXPERIENCE. PLEASE, do realize that despite your personal sentiments or passion, we on the path of astrology have to walk a long way before we even begin worrying about the status of astrology or its value. We are really at the bottom level and building the edifice one floor at a time. This is the time to do hard work and not get devotional or emotional and over-secure about our passion in life! I think I will stop now! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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