The Vedic perspective.

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Namaskarams to everyone.

 

Just to give the discussion another dimension, I have posted this

reply. There are few opinions or formulation I want to discuss here.

 

1. The assumption that Vedas are teaching of Ishwara to give a lift

for the human thoughts is very naïve.

 

As Shri.Aurobindo says in his book "The secret of the Vedas", Vedas

are not merely teaching or specific, singular information that was

conceived by human consciousness. Instead it is a form like music or

Shruti that already exists and will exist ever, whether Homo-sapiens

understands it or not.

 

As regards how it came to human readable form for him to be able to

express, it is the inspiration that led to it rather than an

evolution of human brain. There are still some neuron or part in

human brain (or method of process in human brain) which is as old or

as antiquated as that of first life on earth. Inspiration is running

of drops from the peak of mountain as a result of the order of the

gravity of this planet. This is what Vedas has been through it is

flow of the peak of drops of fluid from the peak of clarity, due to

gravity in an human understandable form.

 

Vedas are correlated to Goddess Saraswati, but Saraswati was also a

river. There is a connection there. It is very raw on our part to

come to conclusion that because the Saraswati river valley

civilization led to the congregation of Vedas and Vedic rishis the

correlation between Sarawathi and the Vedas.

 

The point here for us to note is that the river saraswathi just

flows from mountain going from the mountain valley to the plains and

then to the desert. In the similar way, the Vedic scriptures are

that of inspiration from the deeper (higher) consciousness of the

human brain. It is a deeper ear to hear the already existing,

flowing music shruti the Vedas. Vedas are considered to be shabdha

Brahman. The cosmic music, that flows, which we call time, the yug,

constricting its bandwidth only to the earth planet leaving others

(space) devoid of it, is what is called the Vedas. The universe is

made of that.

 

To express more of what I am trying to communicate, I have of given

the quote of T.S Eliot the great poet.

 

Quoting T.S. Eliot: "For myself, I can only say that a knowledge of

the springs which released a poem is not necessarily a help toward

understanding the poem: too much information about the origins of a

poem might even break my contact with it … I am even prepared to

suggest that there is, in all great poetry, something which must

remain unaccountable however complete might be our knowledge of the

poet, and that is what matters most. When the poem has been made,

something new has happened, something that cannot be wholly

explained by anything that went before."

 

James Shannon the U.S. scientist who was the first visionary of the

Information Theory says about entropy for information. I have

explained below the content of the entropy theory postulated by

James Shannon.

 

 

An intuitive understanding of information entropy relates to the

amount of uncertainty about an event associated with a given

probability distribution.

As an example, consider a box containing many coloured balls. If the

balls are all of different colours and no colour predominates, then

our uncertainty about the colour of a randomly drawn ball is

maximal. On the other hand, if the box contains more red balls than

any other colour, then there is slightly less uncertainty about the

result: the ball drawn from the box has more chances of being red

(if we were forced to place a bet, we would bet on a red ball).

Telling someone the colour of every new drawn ball provides them

with more information in the first case than it does in the second

case, because there is more uncertainty about what might happen in

the first case than there is in the second. Intuitively, if there

were no uncertainty as to the outcome, then we would learn nothing

by drawing the next ball, and so the information content would be

zero. As a result, the entropy of the "signal" (the sequence of

balls drawn, as calculated from the probability distribution) is

higher in the first case than in the second.

Shannon, in fact, defined entropy as a measure of the average

information content associated with a random outcome.

 

It is important to remember that entropy is a quantity defined in

the context of a probabilistic model for a data source. Independent

fair coin flips have entropy of 1 bit per flip. A source that always

generates a long string of A's has entropy of 0, since the next

character will always be an 'A'.

 

On how this is related to the Vedas and origin of human evolution is

as below. The Vedas are not from the single source of human brain.

It is an eclectic collection of inspirations from various brain

structures. So in all probability the measure of average information

content will always be new and entropy greater that zero with this

associated random outcome of information.

 

When the entropy is zero, the information continues to exist but in

a rather unreadable form. No one can deny this fact if anyone

accepts the sound or music could have been there without human being

actually arriving at the planet for them to be conceived and

understood. So it is not that it existed only after human arriving

at the planet, it is there as light, sound, or science existed

before and will exist after homo-sapiens.