Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Dear Bhaskar , I did not understand the point you are trying to make . Please elaborate . I am not comparing between hora and Rahukaal . These are two different ways of measuring time and obviously they will not coincide . On the other hand Choghadia and Rahu Kaal use the same way of measuring time and thus coincide . At the same time . what one method is calling good , the other method is calling bad . The time one method advocates doing work , the other method is saying do not venture out of the house . The reason for this will become clear when we know the logic behind the two methods . The logic behind Choghadia seems to be quite clear , the logic behind Rahu Kaal I am not know . Regards , Anand A. K. Ghurye Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha ------- § Training § Development § Relationships § Synectics email : hmm_aha Home page : growthanddevelopment http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html http://anandghurye.blogspot.com/ -------- Re: Rahu Kaal and Choghadia Posted by: "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in bhaskar_jyotish Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:11 pm (PST) Sir, Exactly. Thats what I implied. The Hora wil not co-incide because of the reason You gave. The local Sunrise time of any place and Local sunset divided by 12 would not give the same co-ordinates as under discussion. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, Anand <anand.ghurye wrote: > > Parashara Discussion Group > Dear Bhaskar , > > Both will still coincide as both commence with the sunrise and division of the time is exactly the same . Of these Choghadia have a direct logic behind it - the logic is that the choghadia belonging to a shubha graha is good . The logic behind Rahu kaal is not clear . > > The hora , does not coincide with this as the hora is one hour of time ( approximately ) and you will have twelve horas in one day . If you are taking the equatorial time , then the day time and the night time does not change much . > > This is the reason I am looking for a clarification . > > Regards , > > Anand > > > > Re: Rahu Kaal and Choghadia > Posted by: "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish > Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:50 pm (PST) > Dear Anand, > > Please check with place,date and Sunrise on that day. > Calculate as per above and see how much similiraity or > difference lies between Rahu Kalam and Shubh > Chogadhia. Also when You do this checking, note down > the Horas falling on the 2 days You mentioned in the two > times. > Once You do this calculation,then it will shed some light > probably,on Your Query. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Sir, It is still not established fact what You pointed out- that what one method says is good, the other method says is bad. This is what I want you to check and establish facts by taking an example,with a particular locality,and calculating the Rahu Kalam and the chogadhia, on the days You mentioned when they seem to be contradictory by the two methods. Rahu Kaal and Chogadhia also must be having a base for calculations. Taking the base if the calculation is done, does still the 2 methods point to contradictory ? If Yes, then we move to finding the reasons. Therefore first I request you again,to take a certain place, a certain time (Both in India), prepare the Rahu Kalam and Chogadhia as per the instructions laid down in the texts, prove that they are contradictory, and then we shall attempt to discuss why ? We will leave Hora aside at the moment and just concentrate on the Rahu Kalam and Chogadhia. But kindly provide us the lead with an actual example. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, Anand <anand.ghurye wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar , > > I did not understand the point you are trying to make . Please elaborate . > > I am not comparing between hora and Rahukaal . These are two different ways > of measuring time and obviously they will not coincide . > > On the other hand Choghadia and Rahu Kaal use the same way of measuring time > and thus coincide . At the same time . what one method is calling good , the > other method is calling bad . The time one method advocates doing work , the > other method is saying do not venture out of the house . The reason for this > will become clear when we know the logic behind the two methods . The logic > behind Choghadia seems to be quite clear , the logic behind Rahu Kaal I am > not know . > > > > Regards , > > Anand > > A. K. Ghurye > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha > > -- ---- ------------- > § Training § Development § Relationships § > Synectics > > email : hmm_aha > Home page : growthanddevelopment > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html > http://anandghurye.blogspot.com/ > -- ---- -------------- > > > > Re: Rahu Kaal and Choghadia > Posted by: "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish bhaskar_jyotish > Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:11 pm (PST) > Sir, > > Exactly. Thats what I implied. > The Hora wil not co-incide because of the reason You gave. > The local Sunrise time of any place and Local sunset > divided by 12 would not give the same co-ordinates > as under discussion. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya, Anand <anand.ghurye@> wrote: > > > > Parashara Discussion Group > > Dear Bhaskar , > > > > Both will still coincide as both commence with the sunrise and > division of the time is exactly the same . Of these Choghadia have a > direct logic behind it - the logic is that the choghadia belonging to > a shubha graha is good . The logic behind Rahu kaal is not clear . > > > > The hora , does not coincide with this as the hora is one hour of > time ( approximately ) and you will have twelve horas in one day . If > you are taking the equatorial time , then the day time and the night > time does not change much . > > > > This is the reason I am looking for a clarification . > > > > Regards , > > > > Anand > > > > > > > > Re: Rahu Kaal and Choghadia > > Posted by: "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ bhaskar_jyotish > > Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:50 pm (PST) > > Dear Anand, > > > > Please check with place,date and Sunrise on that day. > > Calculate as per above and see how much similiraity or > > difference lies between Rahu Kalam and Shubh > > Chogadhia. Also when You do this checking, note down > > the Horas falling on the 2 days You mentioned in the two > > times. > > Once You do this calculation,then it will shed some light > > probably,on Your Query. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Nanavati I dount parasara said this but is assume do the bhavath bhava also isa concept that came later. people not able to give right naswers used short cuts. u mean to say if u have Jutp ot sun in 10th u won't have work or powerful work in govt etc? as both represent power be it govt or otherwise. On 11/24/06, VIJENDRA NANAVATI <nanavati_45 > wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar,Wendy & all members, > > Parashar said that > > " KARKO BHAV NASHAY " > > could you please tell me logical explanation for this ??? > > what are necessary & sufficient conditions for applying this rule. > > NANAVATI > > VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA CONTROL AUTHORITY > MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , INDORE > > 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA > > PHONE :2574019® > > 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) > > 98272 24520 > > 9300837810 > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and > get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Dear Anand, This was at the back of my mind, and with some free time today got down to calculations. To Calculate the Day Choghadia, find out exact hours between Sunrise and set and divide equally by 8. To arrive at RahuKalam we already have pointers after sunrsie how many hours to add each day for Rahu Kalam. For Tuesday add 9 hours to the sunrise time and next 1 hour 30 minutes would be Rahukalam. (16.00 pm to 17.30) For Thursday add 7 hours 30 mts. to the sunrise time and next 1 hour 30 minutes would be Rahu Kalam (14.30 to 16.00) I am taking example for Bombay This Tuesday the date is 5th Dec 2006 Sunrise in Bombay 6.57am IST This Thursday date is 7th december. Sunrise is 6.59 am IST (We shall take 7.00am as base for easier calculations) Now the 8 Periods we get for Choghadia are as under Duration/Tuesday Choghadia/Thursday Choghadia 7.00 am to 8.22 am Roga / Shubha 8.22 am to 9.44 am Udvaig / Roga 9.44 am to 11.06 am Chara / Udvaig 11.06 am to 12.28 pm Labha / Chara 12.28 pm to 13.50 pm Amrit / Labha 13.50 pm to 15.12 pm Kala / Amrit 15.12 pm to 16.34 pm Shubha / Kala 16.34 pm to 17.56 pm Roga / Shubha You said - // compared te Rahu Kaal and Choghadia table . I see there that for example on Tuesday the shubh Choghadia coincides with Rahu Kaal or for Thursday the Amrut choghadia coincides with Rahu Kaal . Can you please shed some light on this issue ?// If You notice in above table on Tuesday the Shubha Choghadia is from 15.12 to 16.34 while Rahu Kalam is 16.00 to 17.30 Again on Thursday the Amrit choghadia is from 13.50 to 15.12 while Rahu Kalam is at 14.30 to 16.00 In both cases we cannot call the timings as coinciding in the real sense of the term because you still have a difference if the Muhurta is really needed . In that case on Tuesday you may consider 15.12 to 16.00 as subha timings for whatever work you wish to do, and on Thursday you may consider 13.50 to 14.30 as subha for same reasons. All above has been done manually and no use of computer has been taken for calculation purposes, because all softwares mostly do not take timings of local sunrise for determining the Rahu Kalam, and thus allover India in all newspapers too for example you may find on Sunday Rahu Kalam would show as 16.30 to 18.00 which is not right actually. I hope You will appreciate the above assessment as it has taken some time and energy off my schedule, just to clear the above query. I have more on Choghadias, but for another day. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Sir, > > It is still not established fact what You pointed out- > that what one method says is good, the other method says > is bad. This is what I want you to check > and establish facts by taking an example,with a particular > locality,and calculating the Rahu Kalam and the chogadhia, > on the days You mentioned when they seem to be contradictory > by the two methods. > Rahu Kaal and Chogadhia also must be having a base for > calculations. Taking the base if the calculation is done, > does still the 2 methods point to contradictory ? > If Yes, then we move to finding the reasons. > Therefore first I request you again,to take a certain place, > a certain time (Both in India), prepare the Rahu Kalam > and Chogadhia as per the instructions laid down > in the texts, prove that they are contradictory, > and then we shall attempt to discuss why ? > We will leave Hora aside at the moment and just concentrate > on the Rahu Kalam and Chogadhia. But kindly provide > us the lead with an actual example. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya, Anand <anand.ghurye@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar , > > > > I did not understand the point you are trying to make . Please > elaborate . > > > > I am not comparing between hora and Rahukaal . These are two > different ways > > of measuring time and obviously they will not coincide . > > > > On the other hand Choghadia and Rahu Kaal use the same way of > measuring time > > and thus coincide . At the same time . what one method is calling > good , the > > other method is calling bad . The time one method advocates doing > work , the > > other method is saying do not venture out of the house . The reason > for this > > will become clear when we know the logic behind the two methods . > The logic > > behind Choghadia seems to be quite clear , the logic behind Rahu > Kaal I am > > not know . > > > > > > > > Regards , > > > > Anand > > > > A. K. Ghurye > > Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha@ > > > > -- > -- -- > ------------- > > § Training § Development § > Relationships § > > Synectics > > > > email : hmm_aha@ > > Home page : growthanddevelopment > > http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html > > http://anandghurye.blogspot.com/ > > -- > -- -- > -------------- > > > > > > > > Re: Rahu Kaal and Choghadia > > Posted by: "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:11 pm (PST) > > Sir, > > > > Exactly. Thats what I implied. > > The Hora wil not co-incide because of the reason You gave. > > The local Sunrise time of any place and Local sunset > > divided by 12 would not give the same co-ordinates > > as under discussion. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya, Anand <anand.ghurye@> wrote: > > > > > > Parashara Discussion Group > > > Dear Bhaskar , > > > > > > Both will still coincide as both commence with the sunrise and > > division of the time is exactly the same . Of these Choghadia have a > > direct logic behind it - the logic is that the choghadia belonging > to > > a shubha graha is good . The logic behind Rahu kaal is not clear . > > > > > > The hora , does not coincide with this as the hora is one hour of > > time ( approximately ) and you will have twelve horas in one day . > If > > you are taking the equatorial time , then the day time and the night > > time does not change much . > > > > > > This is the reason I am looking for a clarification . > > > > > > Regards , > > > > > > Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Rahu Kaal and Choghadia > > > Posted by: "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ bhaskar_jyotish > > > Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:50 pm (PST) > > > Dear Anand, > > > > > > Please check with place,date and Sunrise on that day. > > > Calculate as per above and see how much similiraity or > > > difference lies between Rahu Kalam and Shubh > > > Chogadhia. Also when You do this checking, note down > > > the Horas falling on the 2 days You mentioned in the two > > > times. > > > Once You do this calculation,then it will shed some light > > > probably,on Your Query. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREETI SETHI Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Respected Sir, Please tell me Rahu Kalm Calculations. Thanks Preeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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