Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Now we will see what happens to those who are on the Bhakti marg. All those who worship God as a personal saviour as father/mother etc are Bhaktas. Bhakti, though is a very high state of meditation, but the bhakti done by common people is not the real Bhakti. Most of the Bhaktas fix their gaze on a form of God and worship him. Most of christians, muslims, jews, sikhs, and most of the hindus come into this category. These bhaktas are not aware of the real God, and are very possesive and a little (or fully) fanatic towards this idea. These Bhaktas do the worship, but remain a very common person in their lives.... they do donations, do service too but are doing all this ignorantly....they are selfish too and live their normal life for themselves and their families. such Bhaktas when die, they wander a little in lower planes, if there are some sins done by them, and then reach the higher planes where they will always see their form of God welcoming them in so- called heaven. They enjoy their lives there and when time comes they come back to earth, without any memory of the heaven or last birth. such Bhaktas take many births, and they are out of this cycle, only when Gyan starts coming to their mind The Real Bhaktas like Mira Bai, Paramhansa etc... become one with the God and they merge into that form of consciousness (Krishna or shiva or Shakti), after death...they do not go to any astral level. When the Final Pralaya comes they return to the source alongwith their deity. Till then they retain their ego and enjoy with their God Some times such souls are sent back to earth to bring more and more people towards the truth. Many Bhaktas die a very painful death too (for exmaple Paramhansa died painfully due to throat cancer). This is a sign that this is their last birth, because, nature destroys all their sins...and the residue sins are brought out in form of such pains and sufferings. We must remember that if a Real Sadhaka is dying painfully...it is a clear indication that either it is his last birth, or Nature is going to give him a very high spiritual birth, ..by destroying his residue sins...and making him pure with love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 , beirut_ka_baba <no_reply wrote: OK I have two questions (1) Does soul remember her past lives while suffering or enjoying in Hell/Heaven (2) Can a soul take rebirth as animal or insect or trees, and does she remember her last birth as human? Anyone reply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 > OK I have two questions (1) Does soul remember her past lives > while suffering or enjoying in Hell/Heaven Yes, but only usually only 1 life, not lives. One of the job of Astral heaven/hell is to wipe your memory clean before you take a new birth, as we arent allowed to carry memories into new life, only Sanskaar(thought impressions). > (2) Can a soul take rebirth as animal or insect or trees, and does > she remember her last birth as human? > Yes, but rarely. Very violent people may take birth as animals. This can also happen by a curse. Insects are too far removed from us- humans would only take birth as mammals. High level Sadhaks who commit a big mistake may go into lower forms , but lower form doesnt neccesarily mean animal- there are many Astral planets where they may be born as Rakshas/Preta. After they die on that planet, they are forced back to Physical world, where they may be born as human or animal, depending on their behaviour in Rakshas form. (Remember many Rakshas worship Lord Shiva, so he might take mercy on them & allow them human birth). People can only be born once their memories are wiped out, so they dont remember previous lives-this saves them from trying to settle previous life accounts. There are a few rare exceptions, which maybe called freak accidents, but really there is no accident in Nature. These rare cases give hope to the faithful in these materialist times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 One of the job of Astral heaven/hell is to wipe your memory clean before you take a new birth, Memory is not wiped clean it mearly reseededs to the subconcious portion of our mind so that during physical existance on earth we cannot recall it with our normal conciousness. .. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. http://new.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 > Memory is not wiped clean it mearly reseededs to the subconcious >portion of our mind so that during physical existance on earth we >cannot >recall it with our normal conciousness. For practical purposes the memory is wiped clean. A record remains, but not in our body, but in a big central database(the Universal Chit). This database can only be accesses by a handful of people, although spirits(good & bad) can see parts of it. If we still had our previous memories, we would waste all time settling previous life accounts, so as a form of mercy Kali destroys them. The only thing that remains is Sanskaar, or thought impressions that arise periodically to give us results of our Karma. Seeing our previous lives is a Siddhi granted to only a handful, as God has to be sure we are in control of our mind/emotions, so that we wont try to take revenge for previous life enemies. Even Bhishma, a Devtaa & son of Ganga , a Godess and a man of very high character , could only see his previous 6-7 lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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