Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Dear Vatsala ji, Thank you for taking the stand in favour of what you have observed and considered to be right! Since I like to be in the 'middle' of things, half would judge me as good and productive, the other half would judge me as bad and wasteful. I personally have absolutely no special fondness or pride about my writings, the well thought out ones (articles etc) or the ones that are more spontaneous (postings in general). Kind souls like you alert me to the perceived significance of my one- liners -- which I personally never really treated as significant or even important, partly because of having reminded somewhat vexingly by somewhat irritated readers, some older in age (that is a dying breed seemingly at my age!) and others who are spiritually older or at least impress me as being so! Leaving aside all the tiny pricks and jabs and yelps and howls that as a pachyderm (part of my course selection in this lifetime!)I must sustain, ignore and not allow to upset me from my evening walks (to keep the weight under control!), these interesting and 'negative' experiences always provide me with useful pointers that are helpful for my final exam (fast approaching, I tremulously realize!). It is easy to write a book, an article but one-liners! Now that is a challenge as all KOAN lovers know. Most days it does seem like it is about trying to hear the sound of one hand clapping! (that is not a typo, because change the 'c' with an 's' and the sound becomes too commonplace, literally and metaphorically, all across the world! The reason I do not feel overly proud of what I write, one liners or multiliners (to the chagrin of many!) was because looking back I never had to work too hard to learn astrology. All other subjects and disciplines were different and rather the opposite! I had to work very hard to learn all those and many I still am. So, anything I write about or of astrology I sincerely believe is like a box of chocolates that my parents sent to me. In a sense these dainties are mine, but really are they? Hence I repeat this prayer again and again: Ma Shakti Dey, Har klanti ley Ma Buddhi Dey, Har bhranti ley Ma Bhakti Dey, Ma Shanti Dey, Ma Mukti Dey! When She smiles: fatigue, confusion, and darkness vanishes Peace remains and that can only liberate our souls! , "sahaip123" <sahaip123 wrote: > > Sheenuji, > If you are an astrologer worth her salt, I had mentioned in my > earlier letter learn the art of humility, ofcompassion and the basic > tenets of decent behavior. Instead of questioning "madam" look > inwards.I dont recall a single posting of yours reaching out to help > the suffering multitude u talk on behalf of. Each of us in this > forum have benefitted from the readings of learned astrologers. They > may have been long manuscirpts or the one liners that RR posts. His > one liners have perhaps more insight if you care to understand than > a two page analysis by the likes of me. > > I have been attached to this forum and i alone know the help this > forums give to persons like me who are here here in quest of > learning. Each day i have read the mails ,noted the data ,ananlyzed > and waited for the postingsnext day to check my own analysis.There > have been times of elation and other times when i found myself > sourly off the point. Allow me to tell you to go thru the writings > of RR.You will learn. Astrology and English. But that is if you are > interested...to learn that is. > > ... and by the way tellus more where u run the Ngo... > Vatsala > -- In , ",heenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohiniji, > > > > Madam please do not mind my clear writings, but please come out > with > > some solutions to what people are asking over here. > > As one aged member who knows my birth date pointed out that > > I was born in front of You, so I am child in front of You,but > honestly > > I think comprehensive childish notes are not required on > paraphysical > > matters but results and remedies on > > the problems at hand are what needed from help postings over here. > > I do not find any astrological stuff in your writings but just > > english rumninifications which are made to sound intellectual but > not > > the least just hocus pocus. You say that in past you have > submitted > > articles on Astro.Magazines, then You should know that anyone can > do > > that,but why should one try to gain respect on past glories in the > > present when the laurels received were in primitive age, and still > > theres primitiveness inside you, but not so outside, as all here > are > > looking for astrological dictums and discussions on same and not > > literal abracadabra . > > The respected Moderator should check and read your postings how > much > > help comes forth and how much space is taken proportionally. > > Or are you looking for prospective clients here for your own > Website > > where you talk professional,in exchange of money changing hands ? > > > > Sheenu. > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > I appreciate your thoughtful email and fully appreciate your > > > hesitation about posting an analysis at this early stage of your > > > astrology education. > > > > > > I still think that you should rid yourself from the fear of > > ridicule > > > or worse if you post your findings and those may not be up to > > > someone's standards! Let that be! In fact I think in many > > > jyotish 'readings' the scary term analysis is over-sold. In many > > > instances individuals notice a combination or exchange and give > a > > > pronouncement/reading. This is not analysis but pattern > > > identification and regurgitation from a mentally stored look-up > > > table. Nothing wrong with it if it works in ones hands. > > > > > > A horoscope is like an unopened letter. The jyotishi approaches > it > > > with a deep belief in its worth and that the message that it > > contains > > > will not only be helpful to the nativity that with trust hands > over > > > the envelope to the jyotishi, but also to the jyotishi. By being > > > helpful to the jyotishi, I do not mean the money, fruits or > respect > > > that the jyotishi receives but in the message itself, in each > > reading > > > there is the potential for the jyotishi to learn something, > > something > > > bigger than jyotish, something more personal than jyotish! The > more > > > readings we do, the higher the probability that we get jaded and > > > distance ourselves from the message in the reading. Mind you, > this > > is > > > a situation of a very fine balance and if the jyotishi's iMAGI [c] > > > nation (the source of all magic) has not been actively > cultivated > > and > > > rendered refined, then the messages can be confusing personally > at > > > times. Many of us when we talk about predestination, fate, tend > to > > > focus on time, as in the money I received on July xyz was > > > predestined, the jobloss in December was in my fate or marriage > or > > > childbirth etc. It is true that some of these were, but the type > of > > > experience, the beginning of such processes probably have more > > > elements of predestination. Think of these as courses we signed > up > > > for to study in this lifetime. Coming back to jyotish readings, > > > people report that they recall seeing at times series of charts > > which > > > had something similar, a sort of repeating pattern, sometimes it > is > > a > > > series of charts with lot of nodal influences, at other they > > suddenly > > > find themselves coming in contact with a larger than usual > number > > of > > > nativities with prominent mars, etc. These are not random > > occurrences > > > but SOMETHING is trying to get the jyotishi's attention! While > > > the 'projected', expressed verbiage/reading remains the same as > in > > > other times, an attuned jyotishi takes into consideration these > > > signals and makes internal adjustments. Sometimes, as an > example, > > > aggression can be avoided. Using the clues that the Universe > > > provides, one can exercise extra prudence and avoid hastily > > reacting > > > against individuals who are trying to express their martian > natures > > > and trying to provoke you. Unprepared, not paying attention to > the > > > signals one could react and receive the negative repercussions > > > himself/herself. If paying attention to such signals (example > the > > > collection of nativities/horoscopes one is coming across at a > given > > > time), one utilizes this additional personal clue that jyotish > > gives > > > to the jyotishi or jyotish student (often the boundary is really > > > fuzzy between the chela and pandit!!). > > > > > > I thank you for paying attention to my prattle and I encourage > you > > to > > > shed your hesitation and plunge in with no fear. You are a > person > > who > > > thinks and the more you discuss the better and deeper will be > your > > > learning. If you only insist on taking in what others say, > classics > > > and contemporary, you will deprive yourself of an important part > of > > > education: knowing for sure what one knows and what one has > > learned. > > > You will also deprive us so called wizened jyotishis (except the > > > poster ofcourse!) the AHA moments that hearing someone with a > fresh > > > outlook offers. If I may stretch the analogy a bit, it is like > > seeing > > > a child taking its first steps. While the child is probably > afraid > > at > > > heart lest he fall and get hurt, the adults around know that it > can > > > be done and get mentally involved in the process, almost walking > > with > > > the child and when he really masters it, the proud and joy is > not > > > just his but the adult who was involved in this simple act of > > > learning! > > > > > > Thank you and best wishes for success, > > > > > > Ranjan > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji > > > > > > > > Thanks for your nice words and inviting me to post my > analysis. > > > > > > > > I joined 4 or 5 jyotish forums last year in order to get some > > > > knowledge on this great science. Though I regularly visit > these > > > > forums to read the various postings, I started to study the > > > > fundamentals only since last 3-4 months (downloaded the BPHS e- > > > > book). > > > > > > > > With the presence of so many learned and experienced people > like > > > you > > > > in these forums, it would be totally unfair on my part to even > > make > > > > an attempt to do analysis, with a very negligible level of > > > knowledge > > > > (knowledge here I meant, basics and concepts of astrology). > > Please > > > > accept my apology. I am at the starting point of > the "learning > > > > curve" of this science. > > > > > > > > The purpose of my cross-postings on different forums is to get > > > > maximum number of responses with different dimensions, if any, > to > > > > the query I raise. By this process, learners like me get > > valuable > > > > knowledge from the experienced astrologers. > > > > > > > > On a lighter side: I can definitely make an attempt to do an > > > > analysis, by reading (pasting) some of the responses I already > > got > > > > and since the native is my maternal uncle whom I know very > well > > of > > > > his life etc. thereby combining these factors and post an > > analysis. > > > > But, if do this way, my purpose of joining these forums is > > > > defeated. I will not progress on my learning. > > > > > > > > I do sincerely appreciate your concern/doubt that some of them > > use > > > > these postings for their personal gains or to trash jyotish > (as > > you > > > > said). I thank you for considering me that I do not belong to > > any > > > > of these categories, which is true. > > > > > > > > God willing, I assure you that one day I will start posting my > > own > > > > analysis (as part of my learning process) in the forums, with > the > > > > blessings of learned people like you. > > > > > > > > By this posting, if I offended anyone in any way, please > accept > > my > > > > sincere apology. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reading. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sridhar, > > > > > > > > > > Your questions indicate that you are not entirely unfamiliar > > with > > > > the > > > > > field of astrology and also you have some good questions. I > > would > > > > > invite you to write your analysis of this chart and then you > > will > > > > > find that you get more responses. > > > > > > > > > > Lately, there has been a bit of doubts created in minds of > > > members > > > > > that some astrologers had been posting queries all over > > internet > > > > > (okay a few places) in order to get some good material for > > > > personal > > > > > profit. > > > > > > > > > > I doubt that you are one of those, or one of the ones > recently > > > > seen > > > > > whose hidden agenda was to trash jyotish and like a ripe > boil, > > > > their > > > > > inner agenda gushed forth very rapidly after a few pokes by > the > > > > > surgical lancet (metaphorically speaking!). I do not think > you > > > are > > > > > one of those either, so I invite you to post an analysis, no > > > > matter > > > > > how simple or novice-like. Don't be shy. If such analyses > are > > > > posted > > > > > you will find a different side to most jyotishi members here! > > > > > > > > > > Try it! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > > > > > Would appreciate your astrological thoughts on this > native, > > who > > > > is > > > > > > worried too much about his health issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB:16-01-1961 > > > > > > TOB:09.15 pm (21.15 hrs) > > > > > > POB:Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The native's health is giving some problem offlate, as > you > > > > have > > > > > > > rightly predicted below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would apprecaite your thoughts on his health issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "astrologerashutosh" > > > > > > > <astrologerashutosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sridhar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I mistakenly addressed you as > Ashwin > > > > (from > > > > > > > your email id) in my last reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem which his first son has is > normally > > not > > > > > > > detected before two years of age when an average kid > start > > > > > > > communicating with others around him in some meaningful > and > > > > > > coherent > > > > > > > ways. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the mentally challenged kids go > > undetected > > > > in > > > > > > > early childhood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologically, we can see that a lot of > > pressure, > > > > that > > > > > > > too negative, is there on fifth house. Jupiter > diminishes > > > some > > > > of > > > > > > > the properties of house where it is placed. Jupiter is > 8th > > > > lord > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > Moon is 12th lord, Saturn is 6th lord, rahu's aspect, > etc, > > > are > > > > > the > > > > > > > causes behind this problem to the boy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are chances of very slight improvement. > > > > > Performing > > > > > > > remedies for Saturn, rahu and moon will help in the > boy's > > > > health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > ashwin_062k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, 13 November, 2006 19:04 > > > > > > > > Re: Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kudos to you. You are absolutely right in your > readings > > > > below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Offlate he is complaining about chest pains and has > > fear > > > > of > > > > > > some > > > > > > > mis- > > > > > > > > haps to his life too !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would apprecaite your thoughts on his elder son (he > has > > > > two > > > > > > sons) > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > is mentally retarded. He (the elder son) was OK upto > 2 > > > > years > > > > > > of > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > birth, but suddenly he became like this. Any dosha > in > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > chart on this aspect (Putra sthana). Any remedies > for > > his > > > > > > > recovery > > > > > > > > to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way the native is my maternal uncle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time and effort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "astrologerashutosh" > > > > > > > > <astrologerashutosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashwin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problems are plenty. Unplanned > > > > > > > > investments which failed, over expenditures, habits > > which > > > > he > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > have done without easily and a desire for easy and > > > > > comfortable > > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > These all have brought these financial troubles to > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All are his own creations, coupled with some bouts > of > > > > ill > > > > > > > > health recently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more year of problems remain till present > mercury > > > > > > > > antardasha ends and Saturn stabilizes in his > ascendent. > > > > After > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > his financial troubles will not be over but they > will > > be > > > > much > > > > > > > > reduced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > ashwin_062k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, 13 November, 2006 16:41 > > > > > > > > > Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please provide with your astrological prediction > > about > > > > this > > > > > > > > native, as > > > > > > > > > he is in deep financial crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DOB:16-01-1961 > > > > > > > > > TOB:09.15 pm (21.15 hrs) > > > > > > > > > POB:Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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