Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Naliniji, well said in reality all malefics are our greatest teachers or guides they keep u on the ground than in the sky all that goes up has to come down this is a malefics job, a snake and ladder game. prashant auromirra19 <nalini2818 > wrote: {Om Namo Narayanaya} Dear RRji, Rishi ji, Nandini ji, Namaskar. Who is a malefic? One who gives you bitter experiences that you swallow at first with distaste& difficulty so that everything that follows, experiences I mean and not necessarily epicurean, do lose their bitterness and no wonder might even be palatable if not *sweet*. Or on the flip side, one who gives you *so much*, everything you crave for, all *sweetness* and *light* that you are totally out of control with the *reality* and are devastated at even a *sour* taste leave alone bitter,and it takes you so many *lifetimes* to connect with reality? Who is a malefic and who is a benefic? Further who is a dire/rank malefic? I am musing aloud, do correct me please.... On the personal side I would throw my weight with the former as he/it alone would provide me with the necessary *papers* for my *stay* here and would also *stamp* my visa/travel documents, whatever are required for a safe onward journey onto life.... Personally I would not know if Shani Maharaj is a *malefic* in my chart??? All I know is whosoever is/are the primary *karaka/s* for my experiences/memories are all truly benefic, for they have made me 'come to terms with' - because 'realise' is tooo sensitive a word (for me),what I am , why I am what I am ..... Ignore the surfeit of I and pray donot take it as something other that what it is supposed to mean as contextually this was a thread asking for personal experiences/challenges et al. So now do tell me please, Who is a Malefic and who is a Benefic. I am waiting... Nalini , "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Saturn the DIRE malefic par none (anyone dare challenge? Based on > personal experiences with illustrations ??) -- the ayushkaraka when > in the 8th in its domain despite karako bhav nashaaya adage has been > claimed to be associated with a long life! > > Why? HOW?? > > The moments when we awaken and begin to ask questions may be > meaningless for all others but ONLY when we awaken individually do we > begin to LIVE! > > RR > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Absolutely Sir! > > > > The Collective Conscience, the Collective Memory, the realm that is > > defined as death but really is beyond death and hence classically > > also described as longevity and mangalya? > > > > Good sleuthing! > > > > RR > > , "rishi_2000in" > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > Would 8th house be involved in Memory? > > > Obviously thereshould be different Jyotish aspectsfor short term > > and > > > longterm memory. > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > All very good points Rishi. Like the moon, the memory is > > wavering, > > > > fluctuating! Perhaps other influences crystalize certain > > > experiences > > > > and they become more stable, long-term memories. There is > > > biological > > > > evidence for different types of memories and how they are > stored > > > and > > > > retrieved. Many a times, the memory is there but just cannot be > > > > retrieved readily, like that word that is right on the tip of > the > > > > tongue and suddenly we recall it moments later. > > > > > > > > I will reserve any comments on the situation where individuals > > have > > > > similar or identical charts (twins) with similar dashas and yet > > one > > > > goes north, the other south. It would be too speculative to > > examine > > > > that without examples. I have not looked into that and do not > > > recall > > > > anyone else that might have reported such a study. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "rishi_2000in" > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Intentions can initiate but then events become independent > and > > > mould > > > > > their own future! > > > > > The promises in a chart often need a trigger in terms of > either > > > > > dashas or transits. But then the same triggers apply to all > > > similar > > > > > charts and only one out of several individuals are able to > > > optimise > > > > > their potential. > > > > > What Karmas, what truths or simply "what" makes the > difference > > is > > > the > > > > > question. > > > > > Memories are again not simple. Some have excellent recall of > > near > > > > > past events, while some of distant past. Some retain > > > trivialiaties > > > > > while others the substance. Why should I be able to , for > > > example, > > > > > recollect almost everything of a particular year and am blank > > > about > > > > > the last year? > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group but off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also Personal ID astro.prashantkumar 09840051861 Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 {Om Namo Narayanaya} Dear Prashant, Thank you. It was a wholly subjective post. RR ji did ask for "personal" experiences and my post based was soley based on that and nothing at all on astrologers, their naming the planets as benefic, malefic and so on. There was nothing of the 'astrologer' in me then, as that much I know in astrology that subjectivity 'kills' the diagnosis. I can still recollect very clearly the time I shared my (painful?) thoughts/memories with the members of this august forum and received tremendous solace, support and advice. God Bless you all, Nalini , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Naliniji, > well said in reality all malefics are our greatest teachers or guides they keep u on the ground than in the sky all that goes up has to come down this is a malefics job, a snake and ladder game. > > prashant > > auromirra19 <nalini2818 wrote: {Om Namo Narayanaya} > > Dear RRji, Rishi ji, Nandini ji, > > Namaskar. > Who is a malefic? One who gives you bitter experiences that you > swallow at first with distaste& difficulty so that everything that > follows, experiences I mean and not necessarily epicurean, do lose > their bitterness and no wonder might even be palatable if not *sweet*. > > Or on the flip side, one who gives you *so much*, everything you > crave for, all *sweetness* and *light* that you are totally out of > control with the *reality* and are devastated at even a *sour* taste > leave alone bitter,and it takes you so many *lifetimes* to connect > with reality? Who is a malefic and who is a benefic? Further who is a > dire/rank malefic? > I am musing aloud, do correct me please.... > On the personal side I would throw my weight with the former as he/it > alone would provide me with the necessary *papers* for my *stay* here > and would also *stamp* my visa/travel documents, whatever are > required for a safe onward journey onto life.... > Personally I would not know if Shani Maharaj is a *malefic* in my > chart??? All I know is whosoever is/are the primary *karaka/s* for my > experiences/memories are all truly benefic, for they have made > me 'come to terms with' - because 'realise' is tooo sensitive a word > (for me),what I am , why I am what I am ..... Ignore the surfeit of I > and pray donot take it as something other that what it is supposed to > mean as contextually this was a thread asking for personal > experiences/challenges et al. > So now do tell me please, Who is a Malefic and who is a Benefic. > > I am waiting... > > Nalini > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Saturn the DIRE malefic par none (anyone dare challenge? Based on > > personal experiences with illustrations ??) -- the ayushkaraka when > > in the 8th in its domain despite karako bhav nashaaya adage has > been > > claimed to be associated with a long life! > > > > Why? HOW?? > > > > The moments when we awaken and begin to ask questions may be > > meaningless for all others but ONLY when we awaken individually do > we > > begin to LIVE! > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Absolutely Sir! > > > > > > The Collective Conscience, the Collective Memory, the realm that > is > > > defined as death but really is beyond death and hence classically > > > also described as longevity and mangalya? > > > > > > Good sleuthing! > > > > > > RR > > > , "rishi_2000in" > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Would 8th house be involved in Memory? > > > > Obviously thereshould be different Jyotish aspectsfor short > term > > > and > > > > longterm memory. > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > All very good points Rishi. Like the moon, the memory is > > > wavering, > > > > > fluctuating! Perhaps other influences crystalize certain > > > > experiences > > > > > and they become more stable, long-term memories. There is > > > > biological > > > > > evidence for different types of memories and how they are > > stored > > > > and > > > > > retrieved. Many a times, the memory is there but just cannot > be > > > > > retrieved readily, like that word that is right on the tip of > > the > > > > > tongue and suddenly we recall it moments later. > > > > > > > > > > I will reserve any comments on the situation where > individuals > > > have > > > > > similar or identical charts (twins) with similar dashas and > yet > > > one > > > > > goes north, the other south. It would be too speculative to > > > examine > > > > > that without examples. I have not looked into that and do not > > > > recall > > > > > anyone else that might have reported such a study. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "rishi_2000in" > > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Intentions can initiate but then events become independent > > and > > > > mould > > > > > > their own future! > > > > > > The promises in a chart often need a trigger in terms of > > either > > > > > > dashas or transits. But then the same triggers apply to > all > > > > similar > > > > > > charts and only one out of several individuals are able to > > > > optimise > > > > > > their potential. > > > > > > What Karmas, what truths or simply "what" makes the > > difference > > > is > > > > the > > > > > > question. > > > > > > Memories are again not simple. Some have excellent recall > of > > > near > > > > > > past events, while some of distant past. Some retain > > > > trivialiaties > > > > > > while others the substance. Why should I be able to , for > > > > example, > > > > > > recollect almost everything of a particular year and am > blank > > > > about > > > > > > the last year? > > > > > > rishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group but > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar > 09840051861 > > > > > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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