THE ALGORITHM OF THE UNIVERSE

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Dear Nalini ji,

 

In astrology, there is a tendency to personify planets and to

philosophize over the roles that we (humans, modern and ancient) then

attribute to the planets. From that arises this dichotomy of

good/bad, malefic/benefic. Sometimes trichotomies such as

positive/neurtal/bad, or friendly/neutral/bad are also employed.

 

This tendency of astrologers to utilize such judgmental labels in

their common parlance or lingo should not be taken too seriously,

philosophically. It is not a blame or praise game that astrologers

are playing in calling these planets associated with these qualities.

 

Please understand that astrological musings and meanderings and

symbolical interpretation have their attractions, similar to a

psychoanalytical, psychodynamic interpretation. Theosophical

astrologers, humanist astrologers, such as Alice Bailey, to some

extent Alan Leo and Bepin Behariji have provided such a flavour to

astrology and makes for very interesting reading.

 

In the deepest sense, each perspective has its interesting angle or

angle of interest (and I am not making a play of words here!),

however, for the vast majority of serious astrologers who learn

astrology to give readings, at some level, regardless of their

personal perspective and angle would not be able to get very far from

home if they do not use the qualitative labels that have been

traditionally utilized in astrology: western and eastern, sidereal

and tropical. Given that, there would be all kinds of nuances

introduced such as inherent vs functional malefic or benefic,

immediate/worldly as opposed to ulitmate/spiritual unfoldment of

this 'projected' attribute to the planets. Like humanists indicate,

we humans in different ways project the human experience on to the

planets that are the personified factors in astrology (all kinds no

including chinese or burmese about which I know nothing, hence unable

to comment upon). Such projections are conceptual and not literal.

 

This brings us to something that is almost at the threshold of

material/mystical interface utilized in astrology. The material

aspect deals with, simply put, the fact that we consider the

placement of the planets in a chart based on the bodies or

mathematical representations thereof in the chart. The geocentric

astronomical position of the planets against the firmament in other

words. They mystical aspect comes from the fact that it is not that

saturn out there or jupiter planet out there or mars out there that

is making us behave the way we do or making us experience the way we

feel or influencing our being the way some of us indicate those

planets to be doing. It is almost as if human beings are relegating

of their personal responsibilities and scapegoating the planets both

for positive and negative. Examples: oh that sade sati of saturn is

going to drive me into ground or thank God the moon is crossing my

jupiter when I started this business, etc etc. That saturn or the

crossing of the jupiter by the moon (pindas) was just the physical

MAP, the ALGORITHM underlying the program in the software of

universe! The algorithm must be followed, but it alone will not make

the internet happen, or the video game software to create the

mayajaal. Some electrons and photons jumping around to the beat of

the hallowed grain of sand (silicon chips etc) and some strategically

placed promotors (capacitors) and hurdles (resistors) would be all

required for the electron to sing and dance its way to its

destination. A Destination programmed by He who wrote the ALGORITHM

OF UNIVERSE AND THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE.

 

RR

 

 

, "auromirra19"

<nalini2818 wrote:

>

> {Om Namo Narayanaya}

>

> Dear RRji, Rishi ji, Nandini ji,

>

> Namaskar.

> Who is a malefic? One who gives you bitter experiences that you

> swallow at first with distaste& difficulty so that everything that

> follows, experiences I mean and not necessarily epicurean, do lose

> their bitterness and no wonder might even be palatable if not

*sweet*.

>

> Or on the flip side, one who gives you *so much*, everything you

> crave for, all *sweetness* and *light* that you are totally out of

> control with the *reality* and are devastated at even a *sour*

taste

> leave alone bitter,and it takes you so many *lifetimes* to connect

> with reality? Who is a malefic and who is a benefic? Further who is

a

> dire/rank malefic?

> I am musing aloud, do correct me please....

> On the personal side I would throw my weight with the former as

he/it

> alone would provide me with the necessary *papers* for my *stay*

here

> and would also *stamp* my visa/travel documents, whatever are

> required for a safe onward journey onto life....

> Personally I would not know if Shani Maharaj is a *malefic* in my

> chart??? All I know is whosoever is/are the primary *karaka/s* for

my

> experiences/memories are all truly benefic, for they have made

> me 'come to terms with' - because 'realise' is tooo sensitive a word

> (for me),what I am , why I am what I am ..... Ignore the surfeit of

I

> and pray donot take it as something other that what it is supposed

to

> mean as contextually this was a thread asking for personal

> experiences/challenges et al.

> So now do tell me please, Who is a Malefic and who is a Benefic.

>

> I am waiting...

>

> Nalini

>

>

>

>

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Saturn the DIRE malefic par none (anyone dare challenge? Based on

> > personal experiences with illustrations ??) -- the ayushkaraka

when

> > in the 8th in its domain despite karako bhav nashaaya adage has

> been

> > claimed to be associated with a long life!

> >

> > Why? HOW??

> >

> > The moments when we awaken and begin to ask questions may be

> > meaningless for all others but ONLY when we awaken individually

do

> we

> > begin to LIVE!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Absolutely Sir!

> > >

> > > The Collective Conscience, the Collective Memory, the realm

that

> is

> > > defined as death but really is beyond death and hence

classically

> > > also described as longevity and mangalya?

> > >

> > > Good sleuthing!

> > >

> > > RR

> > > , "rishi_2000in"

> > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Would 8th house be involved in Memory?

> > > > Obviously thereshould be different Jyotish aspectsfor short

> term

> > > and

> > > > longterm memory.

> > > > rishi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > All very good points Rishi. Like the moon, the memory is

> > > wavering,

> > > > > fluctuating! Perhaps other influences crystalize certain

> > > > experiences

> > > > > and they become more stable, long-term memories. There is

> > > > biological

> > > > > evidence for different types of memories and how they are

> > stored

> > > > and

> > > > > retrieved. Many a times, the memory is there but just

cannot

> be

> > > > > retrieved readily, like that word that is right on the tip

of

> > the

> > > > > tongue and suddenly we recall it moments later.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will reserve any comments on the situation where

> individuals

> > > have

> > > > > similar or identical charts (twins) with similar dashas and

> yet

> > > one

> > > > > goes north, the other south. It would be too speculative to

> > > examine

> > > > > that without examples. I have not looked into that and do

not

> > > > recall

> > > > > anyone else that might have reported such a study.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "rishi_2000in"

> > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Intentions can initiate but then events become

independent

> > and

> > > > mould

> > > > > > their own future!

> > > > > > The promises in a chart often need a trigger in terms of

> > either

> > > > > > dashas or transits. But then the same triggers apply to

> all

> > > > similar

> > > > > > charts and only one out of several individuals are able

to

> > > > optimise

> > > > > > their potential.

> > > > > > What Karmas, what truths or simply "what" makes the

> > difference

> > > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > question.

> > > > > > Memories are again not simple. Some have excellent recall

> of

> > > near

> > > > > > past events, while some of distant past. Some retain

> > > > trivialiaties

> > > > > > while others the substance. Why should I be able to , for

> > > > example,

> > > > > > recollect almost everything of a particular year and am

> blank

> > > > about

> > > > > > the last year?

> > > > > > rishi

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>