Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Dear Mr.Ashutosh, What makes you impatient? Tell me. I asked two of your colleagues the same questions. Does it make me indisciplined sir? Never. I would have approached your colleagues on their personal email addresses but I felt they won't reply. Infact, I felt that your answers differed from that of Mr.Prashant's. The comments made by you today were unwarranted. If you felt that I irritated you, you should have sent your messages to my personal email address. What is the need for people in approaching astrologers if their views are contradictory? You would say that I should approach only one and trust him to the fullest. I don't mind doing that. But, people like me in this group need to understand that they will get different predictions if they meet different astrologers. Planetary positions differ with different ayanamshas. I have seen a reply from one of the astrologer in this group to his client to end her marriage. Had she approached a different astrologer, I bet she would have got a different prediction. This makes me wonder why people have to approach astrologers. Is an astrologer bigger than god? Praveen astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear Rohini Ji, Thanks for your wise words. I am myself very patient and protective with children, but I expect grown ups to be better understanding and disciplined. At least those who have seen the world and have done higher studies in good universities abroad. Regards, Ashutosh - Rohiniranjan Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 11:46 Re: Rohiniranjan ji! Dear Ashutosh ji, Let him ask! Unless he (and similar ones) ask, and keep asking, often inappropriately, but once in a million or hopefully thousand times -- how would we seekers and navigators grow? I live in a Nation where during school months (September to June/July) volunteers show up at all intersections and when the lights are red and it is safe to cross, the volunteer steps out and makes sure it is safe before the children cross. For that split second, when the volunteer adult steps out and literally makes the statement that his or her life is on line for the sake of the 'children' something happens in the drivers! Surely they stop, but for that few seconds they suddenly are transformed! They see the children! They realize that they are not just some inconvenience or encumberance but assets and valuables that must be protected and promoted! Of those children, some would end up being criminals and burdens on society, but if even one of those that got protected and preserved by this ostentatious demonstration by the society I have chosen to live in -- and found a magic cure for something, or found a new method to teach kids or became a jyotishi or heck even became the prime minister of a peaceful nation, would it not be worth it? Of course -- VIVEK was not so lucky! He was a ten year old who went to the same martial arts academy as my child (same age). His mother crossed the heavy traffic three lane street. It was a hot day, the milk was going bad or so he was told, ill-informed and confused the little boy began to cross the street. A police car cruising at high speed going through hit him and killed him! Community was shocked. That was my child's first obituary, self-written -- presented to a large gathering. Little wonder that the next two, this last August of two closer individuals, nearly another ten years later went a lot better! Practice does make one better if not perfect, even when it is about ghoulish moments like these, in our childhood, teenage or later! Lest some of us JYOTISHIS forget! RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh wrote: > > Praveen, > > You got a reply from me. Then you addressed same query to Prashant and he gave you some advices too. Now, you are addressing Rohini Ji. At the same time, you are repeatedly throwing same problem to me in one other group. > > This clearly shows your lack of trust and stability of mind. This is why you have been unable to get any job till now. Change your attitude and settle for the first job which comes across. > > Life is not a joyride. It is a push cart which you have to push to move forward. > > Ashutosh > > > > - > Praveen Ravichandran > > Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 08:48 > Re: Rohiniranjan ji! > > > Rohiniranjan ji, > My rising sign is Kumbha as per lahiri and KP ayanamshas. > According to B V Raman Ayanamsha, my ascendant changes to pisces but mine is kumbha lagna. > > I have a horoscope casted already by our family astrologer but I could not interpret it. > Our family astrologer is not here at the moment. He is settled abroad. > > DATE OF BIRTH : 08-June-1981 > > TIME OF BIRTH : 12:40 AM (Midnight) > > PLACE OF BIRTH : Chennai > > Recent Activity a.. 51New Members b.. 2New Links Visit Your Group Search Ads Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Mail You're invited! Try the all-new Mail Beta Y! Messenger Send pics quick Share photos while you IM friends. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Praveen, Before jumping into the sea of future predictions one should at least have some faith in astrology. Even after you had asked Prashant about your chart, you had messaged me on messenger about your queries. There are different ayanamsas, different methods for calculating horoscopes. You doubted Lahiri Ayanamsa, then asked about Raman Ayanamsa, then you said that your family astrologer had made a chart and you will check it for correct applicable ayanamsa. The difference between western and vedic astrology is of ayanamsa only. The events you have described of your life tally with Aquarius ascendent, as far as my very limited knowledge goes. We have no other means to pin point your ascendent, like photographs, etc. For that you need to approach an astrologer personally. What is the surety that you will believe an astrologer even if he has spent his time and energy to pin point your correct ascendent. Here, in the group, all are contributing free of cost. You can complain about wrong analysis only when you have paid for it. But, one values only what one has paid for. Answers on this group are no measures to judge the efficacy of astrology or astrologers. The best way for you, as advised earlier by Rohini Ji, is to study astrology yourself, study your chart from different ayanamsas, and then come to any conclusions about astrologers and astrology. People want astrologers to say what they want to hear. Any adverse predictions and the belief in astrology vanishes. The higher the ego and insecurity, the more one approaches different astrologers. Astrologers will always give different predictions. It is upon you to choose what is correct. No one is selling anything here in this group. I am straightforward and very plain in my expressions. Be more serious about your life. One client of mine was complaining that he is jobless since six months. Then, when he met me, it was revealed that he was getting many good opportunities but he was not joining due to small and silly reasons like the kind of vehicle and home the company provides, and so on. If one is not availing opportunities, astrology cannot be blamed. Final word: Find your family astrologer. You will believe no one else. Ashutosh - Praveen Ravichandran Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 14:11 Re: Mr.Ashutosh Dear Mr.Ashutosh, What makes you impatient? Tell me. I asked two of your colleagues the same questions. Does it make me indisciplined sir? Never. I would have approached your colleagues on their personal email addresses but I felt they won't reply. Infact, I felt that your answers differed from that of Mr.Prashant's. The comments made by you today were unwarranted. If you felt that I irritated you, you should have sent your messages to my personal email address. What is the need for people in approaching astrologers if their views are contradictory? You would say that I should approach only one and trust him to the fullest. I don't mind doing that. But, people like me in this group need to understand that they will get different predictions if they meet different astrologers. Planetary positions differ with different ayanamshas. I have seen a reply from one of the astrologer in this group to his client to end her marriage. Had she approached a different astrologer, I bet she would have got a different prediction. This makes me wonder why people have to approach astrologers. Is an astrologer bigger than god? Praveen astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear Rohini Ji, Thanks for your wise words. I am myself very patient and protective with children, but I expect grown ups to be better understanding and disciplined. At least those who have seen the world and have done higher studies in good universities abroad. Regards, Ashutosh - Rohiniranjan Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 11:46 Re: Rohiniranjan ji! Dear Ashutosh ji, Let him ask! Unless he (and similar ones) ask, and keep asking, often inappropriately, but once in a million or hopefully thousand times -- how would we seekers and navigators grow? I live in a Nation where during school months (September to June/July) volunteers show up at all intersections and when the lights are red and it is safe to cross, the volunteer steps out and makes sure it is safe before the children cross. For that split second, when the volunteer adult steps out and literally makes the statement that his or her life is on line for the sake of the 'children' something happens in the drivers! Surely they stop, but for that few seconds they suddenly are transformed! They see the children! They realize that they are not just some inconvenience or encumberance but assets and valuables that must be protected and promoted! Of those children, some would end up being criminals and burdens on society, but if even one of those that got protected and preserved by this ostentatious demonstration by the society I have chosen to live in -- and found a magic cure for something, or found a new method to teach kids or became a jyotishi or heck even became the prime minister of a peaceful nation, would it not be worth it? Of course -- VIVEK was not so lucky! He was a ten year old who went to the same martial arts academy as my child (same age). His mother crossed the heavy traffic three lane street. It was a hot day, the milk was going bad or so he was told, ill-informed and confused the little boy began to cross the street. A police car cruising at high speed going through hit him and killed him! Community was shocked. That was my child's first obituary, self-written -- presented to a large gathering. Little wonder that the next two, this last August of two closer individuals, nearly another ten years later went a lot better! Practice does make one better if not perfect, even when it is about ghoulish moments like these, in our childhood, teenage or later! Lest some of us JYOTISHIS forget! RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh wrote: > > Praveen, > > You got a reply from me. Then you addressed same query to Prashant and he gave you some advices too. Now, you are addressing Rohini Ji. At the same time, you are repeatedly throwing same problem to me in one other group. > > This clearly shows your lack of trust and stability of mind. This is why you have been unable to get any job till now. Change your attitude and settle for the first job which comes across. > > Life is not a joyride. It is a push cart which you have to push to move forward. > > Ashutosh > > > > - > Praveen Ravichandran > > Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 08:48 > Re: Rohiniranjan ji! > > > Rohiniranjan ji, > My rising sign is Kumbha as per lahiri and KP ayanamshas. > According to B V Raman Ayanamsha, my ascendant changes to pisces but mine is kumbha lagna. > > I have a horoscope casted already by our family astrologer but I could not interpret it. > Our family astrologer is not here at the moment. He is settled abroad. > > DATE OF BIRTH : 08-June-1981 > > TIME OF BIRTH : 12:40 AM (Midnight) > > PLACE OF BIRTH : Chennai > > Recent Activity a.. 51New Members b.. 2New Links Visit Your Group Search Ads Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Mail You're invited! Try the all-new Mail Beta Y! Messenger Send pics quick Share photos while you IM friends. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Dear Mr.Ashutosh, Thank you very much for your email sir. I appreciate what you have mentioned in your reply. Many thanks. Kind regards, Praveen astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Praveen, Before jumping into the sea of future predictions one should at least have some faith in astrology. Even after you had asked Prashant about your chart, you had messaged me on messenger about your queries. There are different ayanamsas, different methods for calculating horoscopes. You doubted Lahiri Ayanamsa, then asked about Raman Ayanamsa, then you said that your family astrologer had made a chart and you will check it for correct applicable ayanamsa. The difference between western and vedic astrology is of ayanamsa only. The events you have described of your life tally with Aquarius ascendent, as far as my very limited knowledge goes. We have no other means to pin point your ascendent, like photographs, etc. For that you need to approach an astrologer personally. What is the surety that you will believe an astrologer even if he has spent his time and energy to pin point your correct ascendent. Here, in the group, all are contributing free of cost. You can complain about wrong analysis only when you have paid for it. But, one values only what one has paid for. Answers on this group are no measures to judge the efficacy of astrology or astrologers. The best way for you, as advised earlier by Rohini Ji, is to study astrology yourself, study your chart from different ayanamsas, and then come to any conclusions about astrologers and astrology. People want astrologers to say what they want to hear. Any adverse predictions and the belief in astrology vanishes. The higher the ego and insecurity, the more one approaches different astrologers. Astrologers will always give different predictions. It is upon you to choose what is correct. No one is selling anything here in this group. I am straightforward and very plain in my expressions. Be more serious about your life. One client of mine was complaining that he is jobless since six months. Then, when he met me, it was revealed that he was getting many good opportunities but he was not joining due to small and silly reasons like the kind of vehicle and home the company provides, and so on. If one is not availing opportunities, astrology cannot be blamed. Final word: Find your family astrologer. You will believe no one else. Ashutosh - Praveen Ravichandran Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 14:11 Re: Mr.Ashutosh Dear Mr.Ashutosh, What makes you impatient? Tell me. I asked two of your colleagues the same questions. Does it make me indisciplined sir? Never. I would have approached your colleagues on their personal email addresses but I felt they won't reply. Infact, I felt that your answers differed from that of Mr.Prashant's. The comments made by you today were unwarranted. If you felt that I irritated you, you should have sent your messages to my personal email address. What is the need for people in approaching astrologers if their views are contradictory? You would say that I should approach only one and trust him to the fullest. I don't mind doing that. But, people like me in this group need to understand that they will get different predictions if they meet different astrologers. Planetary positions differ with different ayanamshas. I have seen a reply from one of the astrologer in this group to his client to end her marriage. Had she approached a different astrologer, I bet she would have got a different prediction. This makes me wonder why people have to approach astrologers. Is an astrologer bigger than god? Praveen astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: Dear Rohini Ji, Thanks for your wise words. I am myself very patient and protective with children, but I expect grown ups to be better understanding and disciplined. At least those who have seen the world and have done higher studies in good universities abroad. Regards, Ashutosh - Rohiniranjan Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 11:46 Re: Rohiniranjan ji! Dear Ashutosh ji, Let him ask! Unless he (and similar ones) ask, and keep asking, often inappropriately, but once in a million or hopefully thousand times -- how would we seekers and navigators grow? I live in a Nation where during school months (September to June/July) volunteers show up at all intersections and when the lights are red and it is safe to cross, the volunteer steps out and makes sure it is safe before the children cross. For that split second, when the volunteer adult steps out and literally makes the statement that his or her life is on line for the sake of the 'children' something happens in the drivers! Surely they stop, but for that few seconds they suddenly are transformed! They see the children! They realize that they are not just some inconvenience or encumberance but assets and valuables that must be protected and promoted! Of those children, some would end up being criminals and burdens on society, but if even one of those that got protected and preserved by this ostentatious demonstration by the society I have chosen to live in -- and found a magic cure for something, or found a new method to teach kids or became a jyotishi or heck even became the prime minister of a peaceful nation, would it not be worth it? Of course -- VIVEK was not so lucky! He was a ten year old who went to the same martial arts academy as my child (same age). His mother crossed the heavy traffic three lane street. It was a hot day, the milk was going bad or so he was told, ill-informed and confused the little boy began to cross the street. A police car cruising at high speed going through hit him and killed him! Community was shocked. That was my child's first obituary, self-written -- presented to a large gathering. Little wonder that the next two, this last August of two closer individuals, nearly another ten years later went a lot better! Practice does make one better if not perfect, even when it is about ghoulish moments like these, in our childhood, teenage or later! Lest some of us JYOTISHIS forget! RR , "astrologerashutosh" <astrologerashutosh wrote: > > Praveen, > > You got a reply from me. Then you addressed same query to Prashant and he gave you some advices too. Now, you are addressing Rohini Ji. At the same time, you are repeatedly throwing same problem to me in one other group. > > This clearly shows your lack of trust and stability of mind. This is why you have been unable to get any job till now. Change your attitude and settle for the first job which comes across. > > Life is not a joyride. It is a push cart which you have to push to move forward. > > Ashutosh > > > > - > Praveen Ravichandran > > Wednesday, 08 November, 2006 08:48 > Re: Rohiniranjan ji! > > > Rohiniranjan ji, > My rising sign is Kumbha as per lahiri and KP ayanamshas. > According to B V Raman Ayanamsha, my ascendant changes to pisces but mine is kumbha lagna. > > I have a horoscope casted already by our family astrologer but I could not interpret it. > Our family astrologer is not here at the moment. He is settled abroad. > > DATE OF BIRTH : 08-June-1981 > > TIME OF BIRTH : 12:40 AM (Midnight) > > PLACE OF BIRTH : Chennai > > Recent Activity a.. 51New Members b.. 2New Links Visit Your Group Search Ads Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Mail You're invited! Try the all-new Mail Beta Y! Messenger Send pics quick Share photos while you IM friends. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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