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Namaste Sri

 

Divisions in the mind shall remain till one realizes the Truth. It is the

mind which creates division. It is also the one which calls for equality.

True Equality is only possible through Realization. Else who is equal in

this Maya? If there is no caste divide (which is a figment of selfish people

only as only Varna Dharma is suggested in the scriptures), then, there is

rich and poor divide. Or intelligent and not so intelligent divide. Or

racial divide. In Australia, where you live, Monty Panesar, a Sikh was

called names, etc. Is there no divide? Then, there is the language divide.

Then, there is a divide of states.

 

Today, Christians who talk about no caste system are themselves pushing for

reservations for Christian Dalits! Indian Government which is not supposed

to entertain caste system has incorporated reservations for Scheduled

Castes. Who is promoting caste system? Think!

 

Infact, you are creating one more division here. You talk of Lal kitab

remedies which I totally reject and have had major cases in which life of

people was destroyed using them. Some people love such remedies. I accept

them and they accept me.

 

It is understanding and acceptance that unites and not baseless screaming

and comments. Hatred, anger, jealousy, and baseless comments add to this

inequality. Ego clashes increase, divisions increase and your dream of

uniting shall fade.

 

Understand and concentrate on Astrology. If you cannot, then, it is your

choice.

 

Again, this email is not to generate another debate or clarification.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 11/16/06, aghorabhairav <aghorabhairav .au> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Friend!

>

> I think you missed the point again and people like you will never

> change.

>

> I had to put my observations because when it turned to the topic of who

> is a real brahmana? and now you know it better.

>

> And it was not meaningless debate, but highly relevent and a burning

> problem faced by All hindus. Dr.B.R.Ambedker did not start the debate

> just for himself, but for millions of downtrodden and exploited masses

> in the name of casteism and ultimately he has to convert to Buddhism.

>

> The main reason and culprits for conversions are casteism and

> brahminism. Do you deny that? Is it not your responsilbility to start

> and initiate a self search and self examination as to why it is

> happening? Who's responsibility is more? Who has to Sacrifice to protect

> Hindu religion? How the Hindus will be United if they are divided so

> much on caste basis? Still in these times also?

>

> Please think over? And don't come up with each time with some thing new,

> But please read and re-read my earlier messages carefully until the real

> wisdom dawns on you.

>

> I know very well, the mentalities and psychologies of all these

> so-called pundits and I know very well how to deal with these people.

> And how the turnaround and twist the definition of a Brahmin to fool the

> gullibles like you.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Ananda

>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> Ice Maiden <icymaiden2000

> wrote:

> >

> > Ananda

> >

> > Exactly. There can be so many differnet kind of remedies. And this is

> where/how the debate started, with a remedy of donating a golden

> hairpin. There was no cause to find fault with that. You talk abut

> lal-kitab remedies...there is also a remedy on golden hairpin in

> lal-kitab. Although it might not ask to donate it, it does mention to

> wear a golden hair pin. I have been told and done that remedy myself.

> >

> > Maybe all this meaningless debate should end here as you acknowledge

> that there can be so many differnt kinds of remedies. Please learn to

> accept and respect remedies prescribed by different kinds of astrology

> and not talk against it.

> >

> > Maiden

> >

> >

> >

> > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> >

> >

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Bharat ji,

 

Beautiful post!

 

Discrimination as a conscious and voluntary faculty (or attribute) is

a human attribute. It has indeed its high and refined purpose and it

has its low and garbled manifestation: Scholarly discussions

represent the former and biases and bigotry represent the latter

manifestation!

 

It is almost like growth itself.

 

Growth is so desirable in its positive form which children go through

in order to become adults.

 

Growth also has its negative side, as in malignant disorders, cancer!

 

RR

 

 

vedic astrology, "Bharat Hindu Astrology"

<hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri

>

> Divisions in the mind shall remain till one realizes the Truth. It

is the

> mind which creates division. It is also the one which calls for

equality.

> True Equality is only possible through Realization. Else who is

equal in

> this Maya? If there is no caste divide (which is a figment of

selfish people

> only as only Varna Dharma is suggested in the scriptures), then,

there is

> rich and poor divide. Or intelligent and not so intelligent divide.

Or

> racial divide. In Australia, where you live, Monty Panesar, a Sikh

was

> called names, etc. Is there no divide? Then, there is the language

divide.

> Then, there is a divide of states.

>

> Today, Christians who talk about no caste system are themselves

pushing for

> reservations for Christian Dalits! Indian Government which is not

supposed

> to entertain caste system has incorporated reservations for

Scheduled

> Castes. Who is promoting caste system? Think!

>

> Infact, you are creating one more division here. You talk of Lal

kitab

> remedies which I totally reject and have had major cases in which

life of

> people was destroyed using them. Some people love such remedies. I

accept

> them and they accept me.

>

> It is understanding and acceptance that unites and not baseless

screaming

> and comments. Hatred, anger, jealousy, and baseless comments add to

this

> inequality. Ego clashes increase, divisions increase and your dream

of

> uniting shall fade.

>

> Understand and concentrate on Astrology. If you cannot, then, it is

your

> choice.

>

> Again, this email is not to generate another debate or

clarification.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 11/16/06, aghorabhairav <aghorabhairav wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Friend!

> >

> > I think you missed the point again and people like you will never

> > change.

> >

> > I had to put my observations because when it turned to the topic

of who

> > is a real brahmana? and now you know it better.

> >

> > And it was not meaningless debate, but highly relevent and a

burning

> > problem faced by All hindus. Dr.B.R.Ambedker did not start the

debate

> > just for himself, but for millions of downtrodden and exploited

masses

> > in the name of casteism and ultimately he has to convert to

Buddhism.

> >

> > The main reason and culprits for conversions are casteism and

> > brahminism. Do you deny that? Is it not your responsilbility to

start

> > and initiate a self search and self examination as to why it is

> > happening? Who's responsibility is more? Who has to Sacrifice to

protect

> > Hindu religion? How the Hindus will be United if they are divided

so

> > much on caste basis? Still in these times also?

> >

> > Please think over? And don't come up with each time with some

thing new,

> > But please read and re-read my earlier messages carefully until

the real

> > wisdom dawns on you.

> >

> > I know very well, the mentalities and psychologies of all these

> > so-called pundits and I know very well how to deal with these

people.

> > And how the turnaround and twist the definition of a Brahmin to

fool the

> > gullibles like you.

> >

> > Best Wishes

> >

> > Ananda

> >

> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

40>,

> > Ice Maiden <icymaiden2000@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Ananda

> > >

> > > Exactly. There can be so many differnet kind of remedies. And

this is

> > where/how the debate started, with a remedy of donating a golden

> > hairpin. There was no cause to find fault with that. You talk abut

> > lal-kitab remedies...there is also a remedy on golden hairpin in

> > lal-kitab. Although it might not ask to donate it, it does

mention to

> > wear a golden hair pin. I have been told and done that remedy

myself.

> > >

> > > Maybe all this meaningless debate should end here as you

acknowledge

> > that there can be so many differnt kinds of remedies. Please

learn to

> > accept and respect remedies prescribed by different kinds of

astrology

> > and not talk against it.

> > >

> > > Maiden

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > >

> > >

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dear sri anand,

I have been following ur mails on this caste brahmin

bashing. I am also a brahmin by birth but i cannot

call

myself a brahmin because i dont perform sandhya

vandanam and as per vedas anybody who fails to do

sandhya vandanam cannot be considered as Brahmin. so

ur debate at this present juncture is irrelevant,

because most of the younger generations who belonged

to this caste have migrated to greener pastures

outside the country. today if at all there is a fight

or hatred among the castes it is amongstthe other

castes who are not brahnins. Recently I read the book

written by K. veeramani (atheist and a brahmin basher)

about the "other side of Bhagawat gita". I appreciate

his initiatives he had taken in bringing to light the

aberrations in Bhagawat gita, he has utilised sanskrit

scholars to translate the versus and he has given his

view point. Unfortunately he has classified Lord

krishna as Brahmin whereas he is a Yadav. Yes there

are aberrations and one cannot accept that Lord

himself instead of bringing peace and harmony amongst

brothers he has instigated ARjuna to fight and win the

battle thro dubious methods adopted by Lord himself

in the battleground for which he gives justification

in a philosophical manner which cannot be accepted as

per today's society. after reading this book i find

that the book is irrelevant in today;s society because

majority of the hindu population irrespective of caste

have never read bhagawatgita and the younger

generation will never have any interest in reading

bhagawat gita and follow the same. to conclude, every

religion will have its abberataion but only hindu

religion is very tolerant othewise u cannot find this

book writtenby MR.K.Veeramani.I can straight way

tellu that he willnot have the guts to present a

critical analysis of Koran or the Bible who are the

majority religion in this world. If u consider Brahman

curse is not there u have every right to reject it at

ur level of astrology, but u cannot force others to

accept ur belief.

finally i would always love to have a society which

has more love and less hatred.

 

with good wishes,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ananda

To reply you in one sentence, "I disagree with you".

 

 

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Yes, I never want anybody to "agreedis- agree" with me, both are

'temporary' and 'induced' artificially from outside. I just want anybody

to analyse anything according to their own natural real experiences and

in a balanced way with an 'open mind' without any past memories or

vested interests or conditionings attached to 'it', should act out of

that freedom 'now' 'here' just with his/her total being. Because 'TRUTH'

Does not depend on our yes or no's, but 'IS' what as it is(ness)

unknowable and unfathomable, yet suttle connecting.........to this

ISNESS....Interior......Consciousness.........

 

If you are 'Total', completely total in with Your Body, Mind and Soul as

One and then you listen, then it is called "Samyak Shravana".......the

very act of very listening transforms you......

 

.........................

 

Please Don't miss this point in your further spiritual path and

satsanghs.

 

with due respects to all!

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Ice Maiden <icymaiden2000

wrote:

>

> Ananda

>

> To reply you in one sentence, "I disagree with you".

>

>

>

>

> Sponsored Link

>

> $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home

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>

>

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