Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 So Babaji, what happens to people like Hitler once they are destroyed? In their next life, do they keep their high energies, or are they born into lower, animal/Preta wombs where they have little nor no Pranic power? Also, since people like Hitler come here to fulfil natures job, are they punished for their bad Karma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > So Babaji, what happens to people like Hitler once they are destroyed? People Like Hitler go into the lower astral levels...burn out alll the subtle energies and take re-birth as a head-high and no-energy man....we see such examples around. they think themselves too great have good brain...but luck plays polo with them many of them become insane, some commt suicide...some live to abuse the society or fate Prakriti took her work from us, but if we start taking credit for our work, the chain of Karma binds us immediately and then we pay for it. This is what Krishna said in Gita...to Arjuna - that He (Krishna) has already killed those warrior...O savyachai become the tool of me and kill them. Even if you dont wish to fight Nature will force you to do so. so those who really take their Dharma as God's wish and do their Karma without any ego attachements...they are not punished for any of their bad deeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 ShanracerJi and BabaJi, eventhough iam a young person not worthy enough to give a comment i would like to add my comment on this. " In Thiruvasagam (Sivapuranam) it states that ( sorry i could not put that in tamil script as it is not supported ) as i understand, the concept of evolution ( the author of Thiruvasagam Thiru. Manikavasagar - 8th century AD ) says starting my birht as womb, then as plants, then as worms, then as trees, then transformed into variety of animals, then birds, then snakes/reptiles, then creature living in stones, then as a human, after death just as a soul, then amidsts the space, then as ASURAS, then as a ascestics, i have taken all births in this universe which is composed of things that are moving and non moving, and iam tired my lord please gift me to disolve with in you with no more births". So occording to my understanding the persons like Hitler can be clasified in the group of Asuras ( more powerfull and destructive than a normal human ) may take a transormation into a person who will devote his entire life serving God. This will cleanup his bad karmas and show his way to disolve into the supreme soul. ShanracerJi and BabaJi pls forgive me if iam wrong. ( One thing to be noted is Charles Darwin came up with theory of evolution only in 1850Ad where as Manikavasagar the authour of this Thiruvasagam who says about evolution lived in 8th century Ad in Madurai, later on moving to Chidambaram.) , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > So Babaji, what happens to people like Hitler once they are destroyed? > In their next life, do they keep their high energies, or are they born > into lower, animal/Preta wombs where they have little nor no Pranic power? > > Also, since people like Hitler come here to fulfil natures job, are > they punished for their bad Karma? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 , "senthil_sym" <senthil_sym wrote: - > 8th century AD ) says starting my birht as womb, then as plants, then > as worms, then as trees, then transformed into variety of animals, then > birds, then snakes/reptiles, then creature living in stones, then as a Dear Senthil, Thankyou very much for the beautiful verse on evolution. I will be grateful if you could post more on this, as I have never read this earlier ! And yes you may be right about Hitler. And please dont think we passed a decree here on hitler, I and Shanracer just explored the possibility of what may happen to such souls...and your expalnation is also very logical. This is how we learn things. we wait for more on Evolution (please also mention the reference of the book) with my love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 You are right, Hitler was of the class Asura, but not all Asuras become enlightened. It is a very complex system, but in the end you need the grace of a Powerful God like Shiva or Vishnu before you can even start on this path. And most of these Asuras dont want Enlightenment, as it is against their nature as Beings of Ignorance. There are millions on planets(again Hindus have known this for centuries, while Scientists for less than 100 years), but not all planets allow their Beings to make spiritual progress. Only Beings who live in the Physical World can make Spiritual progress(there are other Worlds like Vital or Pranic, Mental or Manomaya-corresponding to the Pranmaya & Manomaya bodies) . Thats why our Shastras say that even Gods want to be born on this Earth, since as long as they live in their own World(wrongly called Heaven) they cannot make any progress. It is the same with Raskas/Asuras- they may stay there for millions of years, but they can will never go further. They can pray to Shiva for Siddhis but never achieve Moskha. People like Hitler get a chance to be born here, but they squander it. Ultimately he will get another chance, but he might have to wait millions of years...........so in theory he will finally merge in Shiva, but in practice it wont be happening soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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