Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN! Dear Friend Manovadi Prakash Kandapal! And All Manovadis! It is horrifying to see how rampant the casteism has caught the Mind. In the Guise of Vedic astrology, Inhuman-Manusmrithi is pushed, shamelessly. I am surprised at how much Junk You have acquired and how much illusory beliefs you have. It is a disease and it is a corrosion acquired through thousands of your cow-dung philosophy. The way all of you reacted when I questioned the brahminical word usage and on that pretext, how other people in Hinduism are exploited, a totally venomous onslaught and reaction has been displayed. It is because of the caste Brahmins, India and Hindus are dis-united and again it is because of high caste domination, lower caste people are converting. India and especially 90 crores of Hindus will never develop, as long as they are suppressed under the guise of holy-shit called Brahmanism, untouchability etc. In fact, to prove one's superiority, one needs an imagined lower category, other wise how will they prove that they are of higher category even without deserving to be so? So they create always an opposite to them selves, but infact they are the sides of the same coin. An Untouchable is as good as , and better as a Brahmin and a Brahmin is as worse as an Untouchable and even More chandalik than an Untouchable in reality. Hence birth is in no way, a basis for classification, however arrogantly the so-called caste-born Brahmins might think. Birth significance and superiority has gone long ago my friend. One Learned Friend used to say: ”IF YOU SEE A SNAKE AND CASTE BRAHMIN, WHO WILL YOU KILL FIRST? Obviously KILL BRAHMIN, BECAUSE HE IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN A SNAKE!" Now the way you people have reacted, I can say hundred percent that casteism is still rampant in India. Here you say: You are welcome to throw questions etc. But my friend, I am not allowed to answer and my answers are blocked, your so-called upper caste, 'Brahman' knowledge moderators.... This is the hypocrisy and superiority domination game always played by almost all the religions, not only brahminical caste idiots. Here was my previous reply which was not published: Mohanraaam! Oh! Uhh! What an Arrogant Intolerance!..... What an irrelevant drool.... No doubt Hitler borrowed Swasthika from you upper caste Aryans. By not allowing any alternative discussions or bold questionings, is it not obvious that it is (people like)you who want to force your thinking and conditionings? SINCE WHEN DID YOU STARTED THINKING that YOU OWN VEDIC ASTROLOGY? My friend? RESPECT should not be demanded, it should come out of it's own, through one's heart. Otherwise it will lead to Slavery. Not for the sake of getting free advises, some body calls pranams, guruji’s, etc. doesn't mean anything.... I am sure, you are uncomfortable to face the Harsh TRUTH. And I already made my Points crystal clear, which may seem uncomfortable to some. Readers are the Judges. You don't have to worry. You did not read it properly, You are diverting cleverly on the Points raised by me and creating an Image as if I am attacking or disrespectful to Dakshinamoorty Guruji, which was never the case. Cunning people like you will not escape, I can answer, even hundred letters on this subject and I have made some principled statements only. If you don't like, that's fine, but don't be a Hitler, by demanding to ban, throwing others etc... Your intolerance and egoism is quite obvious. Anyway, You still need to grow up a lot and understand many things. If you don't know the subject then just keep quite and learn, what is real astrology. "Not all that is Obvious is True." I never said any thing or there was anything personal, for what reason you are getting emotional and attributing some thing non-essential. I do respect all astrologer brothers on an equal and mutual basis. It was Never Personal, and I definitely respect the Vedic knowledge and astrological knowledge of Dakshinamoorthiji, and never questioned his learning, that's why advanced points and reformative outlooks are pointed out. Don't think others don't know anything. I am also a Vedic-Indian Astrologer….. I think You did not understand or not yet mature enough to understand the things. As time goes by, everything needs reformation and changes and modifications and some conservatives and vested interested groups always don't want them. That's the flow of the things, it is always resisted, thinking they are always right and they only are the most eligible to protect the masses. But out of repression comes a new beginning and that will be real answer for people like you. Only Time will tell and People will know the Truth about themselves. You don't need to take so much trouble. ------- .......Kabir is a harbinger, a herald of the future, the first flower that heralds the spring. He is one of the greatest poets of religion. He is not a theologian, he does not belong to any religion. All religions belong to him, but he is vast enough to contain all. No particular religion defines him. He is a Hindu and a Mohammedan and a Christian and a Jaina and a Buddhist. He's a great beauty, a great poetry, a great orchestra. Kabir is rare, he is a poor man. In Kabir, for the first time a poor man is recognized as a man of God. Otherwise it was a monopoly of kings and princes and rich people. - The Revolution, Chapter #1 Kabir, THE SONGS OF KABIR. Nothing like it exists in the world. Kabir is incredibly beautiful. An uneducated man, born a weaver -- to whom nobody knows -- his mother left him on the bank of the Ganges. He must have been an illegal child. But it is not enough to just be legal; he was certainly illegal, but he was born out of love, and love is the real law. I have also spoken much on Kabir too, so there is no need to add anything except again and again to say, "Kabir, I love you as I have never loved any man. - Books I Have Loved, Chapter #5 Kabir is a nobody, a man of the masses, very poor, very ordinary, with no education at all, with no culture. And that is his rarity. Why do I call it his rarity? Because to be ordinary in the world is the most extraordinary thing. He was very ordinary -- and he remained ordinary. Kabir is really that normal person that you never come across in life, with no desire to be special. When he became enlightened, then too he remained in his ordinary life. He was a weaver; he continued to weave. ----OSHO - Ecstasy - The Forgotten Language, Chapter #1 Every Messiah brings a special message, a unique message. This is Christ's special message. He simply says, "Thy sins are forgiven." He is not miserly about it. Unconditionally! There is no condition attached. He is not saying, "You do this and you do that and then your sins will be forgiven." No, he says, "They are forgiven. You have loved much. Your tears have shown your helplessness. I have seen into your heart." And I also say, that if you are ready, if you pour down your heart, your sins are forgiven. They are forgiven in your very surrender. Not that I forgive them, they are forgiven in your very trust; you are free, you are saved. ----Osho Your being is never reflected in the eyes of others. Your being you have to come to know only in one way -- and that is by closing your eyes to all the mirrors. You have to enter into your own inward existence, to face it directly. Nobody can give you any idea of it, what it is. You can know it, but not from others. It can never be a borrowed knowledge, it can only be a direct experience, a direct experiencing, immediate. ---osho----The Discipline of Transcendence Vol. 1 #2 Remember, be true to your inner voice. It may lead you into danger, then go in danger, but remain true to the inner voice. Then there is a possibility that one day you will come to a state where you can dance with inner fulfillment. Always look: the first thing is your being. Don’t allow others to manipulate and control you—and they are many; everybody is ready to control you, everybody is ready to change you, everybody is ready to give you a direction you have not asked for. Everybody is giving you a guide for your life. The guide exists within you, you carry the blueprint. To be authentic means to be true to oneself. It is a very, very dangerous phenomenon; rare people can do that. But whenever people do it, they achieve. They achieve such beauty, such grace, such contentment that you cannot imagine. The reason everybody looks so frustrated is that nobody has listened to his own voice. You wanted to marry a girl, but the girl was a Mohammedan and you are a Hindu brahmin, your parents wouldn’t allow it. The society wouldn’t accept it, it was dangerous. The girl was poor and you are rich. So you married a rich woman, Hindu, brahmin by caste, accepted by everybody but not by your heart. So now you live an ugly life. Now you go to the prostitute—but even prostitutes won’t help you; you have prostituted your whole life. You wasted your whole life. Always listen to the inner voice, and don’t listen to anything else. There are a thousand and one are temptations around you, because many people are peddling their things. It is a supermarket, the world, and everybody in it is interested in selling his thing to you. Everybody is a salesman. If you listen to too many salesmen you will become mad. Don’t listen to anybody, just close your eyes and listen to the inner voice. That is what meditation is all about, to listen to the inner voice. This is the first thing. Then the second thing—if you have done the first thing only then the second becomes possible—never wear a mask. If you are angry, be angry. It is risky, but don’t smile, because that is being untrue. But you have been taught that when you are angry, smile. Then your smile becomes false, a mask—just an exercise of the lips and nothing else. The heart full of anger, poison, and the lips smiling; you become a false phenomenon. Then the other thing also happens: when you want to smile, you cannot smile. Your whole mechanism is topsy-turvy because when you wanted to be angry you weren’t, when you wanted to hate you didn’t. Now you want to love; suddenly you find that the mechanism doesn’t function. Now you want to smile; you have to force it. Really your heart is full of smile and you want to laugh out loud, but you cannot laugh. Something chokes in the heart, something chokes in the throat. The smile doesn’t come, or even if it comes it is a very pale and dead smile. It doesn’t make you happy, you don’t bubble up with it. It is not a radiance around you. When you want to be angry, be angry. Nothing is wrong in being angry. If you want to laugh, laugh. Nothing is wrong in laughing loudly. By and by you will see that your whole system is functioning. When it functions, really, it has a hum around it. Just like a car, when everything is going well, hums—the driver who loves the car knows that now everything is functioning well, there is an organic unity; the mechanism is functioning well. You can see it—whenever a person’s mechanism is functioning well you can hear the hum around him. He walks but his step has a dance in it. He talks but his words carry a subtle poetry in them. He looks at you and he really looks; it is not just lukewarm, it is really warm. When he touches you he really touches you; you can feel his energy moving into your body, a current of life being transferred, because his mechanism is functioning well.... Prakash Kandpal <prakashkandpal > wrote: A brahmin is the one who makes you understand the brahma within you. In doing so, he follows certain methods or ways. The method/way you are talking about is "karmakanda" which is one of the methods followed by each and every religion in the world. Now, coming to your remarks, without replying to you, I put forward some questions: 1. When MahaRishi Vishwamitra appeared in the dream of Raja HarishChandra and asked for his kingdom as donation he donated it the very next morning and suffered the miserable life thereafter as we all know it. 2. Are you saying that you are an eligible candidate as Raja HarishChandra to get blessings of a saintly persons or such brahmins. The day you become an eligible candidate yourself you will find such brahmins who can take you to the realization of brahma otherwise you are as miserable as millions of others on this earth who can just question but are not eligible enough to get the blessings of the real brahmin. To gain knowledge and learning it is important to have right kind of eligibility. If you find the above offending please forgive me but being a brahmin myself it is my utmost duty to awaken your self so that you can understand that karmakanda is one small part of a brahmin's duties and the roles of all the casts (created by Manu) have been degraded as time passed since neither the "yajmaan" has been eligible nor the "brahmin". The above applies in all kind of conditions. You are welcome to throw questions etc. With best wishes and blessings, Prakash Kandpal vedic astrology, "aghorabhairav" wrote: > > > SPREADING TOO MUCH SUPERSTITIONS IS TO BE CONDEMNED. > > > > Can You Tell me who is a real Vedic Brahmana? IS there anybody? > Really?.... > > I don't think Bigoted 'officiating priests' are real Vedic Brahmanas. > > Also what kind of Karma will that Brahmana Who cursed will undergo? What > kind of Remedy/Shanthi that Cursing real Vedic Brahmana DO? > > If he is really a real Vedic 'Brahmana' (who cannot/incapable of control > of any of his Indriyas), can he not control his/her anger/emotions? > > I say the better remedy is to curse back that real fake Vedic Brahmana > (who ever is supposed to have cursed you), and take out that fear from > your Mind and Subconscious Conditioning by Superstitious Thinking (used > by negative astrology), and proceed happily with your life in a Positive > Manner, Fearlessly. Don't worry, there are no such things as Bigoted > Brahmana Shapa etc. They are all Made out things And Additions later on, > to make money and get Dakshinas by Unproductive Castes/Classes of > Society in the name of Astrology. > > The best higher remedies are Self Analysis, Universalness, Meditations, > Egolessness, Compassion, Peace, Silence, GupthaDana, Equality and > Prayerfulness. > > > > Best Wishes to All. > > > > May all of us Abide in the ESSENTIAL. > > > > Namasthay > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > -------Ananda Sunkanpally > > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Sagarvpatil: > > > > You may gift a golden hair-pin to your prospective bride on the day > > of the betrothal (the day before the marriage). The bride should > > wear it throughout the marriage ceremony. After the saptapathi and > > mangala sutra dhaaranam are over, you must gift this hair-pin to a > > vedic brahmin praying that all brahmana curses should be neutralized > > by this gift to a vedic brahmin. You can offer the hair-pin as gift > > to the officiating priest of the marriage. Do this with full faith > > and with the attitude that you are offering this gift to the Veda > > purushaa Himself without having any doubts as to whether the > > recipient of the gift is qualified for that exalted status! Our > > attitude can cover up for the possible deficiency of the recipient.... > > > > Otherwise, you can sponsor a samaaradhana for one day in a veda > > patasaala and honour the vedic teachers and students if you can make > > a visit to a patasala like that. > > > > Curses are overcome by donations and charities rather than by wearing > > the concerned gemstones ourselves! > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, > > "sagarvpatil" sagarvpatil@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurujis, > > > I have a brahman shapa caused by saturn form 11th house (Gemini) and > > > Rahu for the 4th house(Scorpio). Jupiter is in 8th house in Meena > > > Rashi. I would like to know what will be the effects because of > > this > > > shapa and remidial measures I should follow. I am wearing an > > pushpraj > > > stone, is it going to help me? > > > Since Sani owns 6th & 7th house & Rahu owns 7th house, will this > > > shapa affect my marrige. I am going to get married in Dec 06, so I > > > would like to know what care I should take. > > > My Birth details are as follows: > > > B.09-07-1975 > > > B.Time: 09:05am > > > B. Place: Sanvordem ( Goa -India) > > > > > > Thanks & regards > > > Sagar > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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