Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Dear Esteem Members In Sanskrit rudraksha literally means "the eye of Rudra" or "red-eyed", from rud, "to cry," and aksha, meaning "eye". In one story by Saivites, God himself (Siva) shed a tear, on viewing the misfortunes of humanity. This single tear became the first Rudraksha tree, and a sign of his compassion. In another story, while destroying the asura fortress of Tripura (mythology), the seeds from Lord Siva's eyes emerged to form rudraksha. Rudraksha literally stands for the eyes of Lord Shiva implying that it was "pleasant to the eyes of Lord" (Shiva), and hence it is named in his honor. Hence join the holy group Rudraksham and seek the knowledge of Rudraksha by clicking the link given below. rudraksham/join Regards Prasanna Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dear Mr.Prasanna Kumar garu, The literal meaning of Rudraksha is ok. Charma Chakshu and Jnana Chakshus are different in meaning. Rudraaksha represents Jnana Chakshu. Those who wear this should always see thro' their third eye means thro' Manas/Discrimination/Buddhi/Jnana whatever is called the state of level of the human being. Those who do the sadhana (path towards their supramental achievements) towards worshiping Lord Siva do wear this as their symbol. The real rudraaksha is your discrimination/buddhi ever in seeing the vicinity of Lord Siva, always crying when felt the separation and red towards worldly disturbance, etc. P. Vijaya Sarathi On 11/6/06, prasanna kumar <groupowner.prasanna > wrote: > > Dear Esteem Members > > > > In Sanskrit rudraksha literally means "the eye of Rudra" or "red-eyed", > from rud, "to cry," and aksha, meaning "eye". In one story by Saivites, God > himself (Siva) shed a tear, on viewing the misfortunes of humanity. This > single tear became the first Rudraksha tree, and a sign of his compassion. > In another story, while destroying the asura fortress of Tripura > (mythology), the seeds from Lord Siva's eyes emerged to form rudraksha. > Rudraksha literally stands for the eyes of Lord Shiva implying that it was > "pleasant to the eyes of Lord" (Shiva), and hence it is named in his honor. > > > > Hence join the holy group Rudraksham and seek the knowledge of Rudraksha > by clicking the link given below. > > > > rudraksham/join > > > > > > Regards > > Prasanna Kumar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dear Shiv Bhakts, This is all very interesting but I am having some difficulty with these variety of legends and wish to go beyond them. Even in a physical aspect, God/Shiva, however you wish to address the Supreme, is indifferent to creation and would not be affected by the misfortunes of humanity. I cannot therefore accept that the Supreme would shed tears. That is of course if there is any physical creation at all. You may say that this is all real because you can see it. However, consider this, when you sleep and dream, do you not believe that the dream world is very real, because you can see it. What happens to that world when you awaken? It is no longer there because all that sustained it was your mind stuff; it does not exist and never did exist. There is in fact no divine intervention all that sustains what you believe to be true is past and current action. Overcome the past by the current and overcome the current by the abandonment of attachment. What is done is done by the mind alone and not by physical actions. There is no devi and there is no dev; let go of the concept of duality and rest in the Self alone. I believe that much of what is said or written is there to illustrate a point and is not intended to be taken literally. For example, Shiva is not a name for a person who has matted hair from which Ganga flows and who wears the moon on his forhead and has a garland of snakes; it is all symbolic. Look beyond the obvious and question it all. There are not many gods, there is not just one god, there is nothing but the ONE, whether you refer to this as Shiva or God does not matter. "The Wise Lament Neither for the Living nor the Dead" prasanna kumar <groupowner.prasanna > wrote: Dear Esteem Members In Sanskrit rudraksha literally means "the eye of Rudra" or "red-eyed", from rud, "to cry," and aksha, meaning "eye". In one story by Saivites, God himself (Siva) shed a tear, on viewing the misfortunes of humanity. This single tear became the first Rudraksha tree, and a sign of his compassion. In another story, while destroying the asura fortress of Tripura (mythology), the seeds from Lord Siva's eyes emerged to form rudraksha. Rudraksha literally stands for the eyes of Lord Shiva implying that it was "pleasant to the eyes of Lord" (Shiva), and hence it is named in his honor. Hence join the holy group Rudraksham and seek the knowledge of Rudraksha by clicking the link given below. rudraksham/join Regards Prasanna Kumar Shiv Sewak CONFIDENTIALITY CAUTION: IMPORTANT The information contained in this e-mail, including any attachment(s) is strictly confidential, legally privileged and intended for the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient (or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient) or have received it in error, you are not permitted to retain, use, disclose, disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail, including any attachment(s) or any part of it. Please immediately delete or destroy it and notify me by sending a return e-mail. Thank you Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near historic lows: $150,000 loan as low as $579/mo. Intro-*Terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 dear shiv bhakts om namo bhagawate rudraya unfortunately several people have WRONGLY interpreted the rudraksha as trees that have grown from the "TEARS" of lord shiva. the shivapuran clearly says that lord shiva did tapas for a thousand years and then decided to break his concentrated meditated state to bless the world. when he opened his eyes, after being in the closed state for a thousand years, few drops of water fell from his eyes. the land where these drops of water from the lord shiva's eyes fell, rudraksha trees have grown. hence, it is sacrilege to say that lord shiva has shed tears and rudraksha have grown from those tears. as adi shankaracharya has clearly mentioned, aham brahmasmi is known only to the realised souls. however, for any person to get self or god realisation, the first step is to follow the path of god and then the quest of god and then the realisation of the self or god. faith and devotion in god is a step in achieving realisation and shall be respected as a step in the process of realisation. as regards seeing things, there are three kinds of images viz. real, unreal and false. real are those images which we see and can capture in the photo with a camera and are physically existing in nature. unreal are those images e.g. we see ourselves in a mirror and they look real but they are unreal. false are those images which one dreams in mind e.g. a 100 headed monster which does not exist. the rule for all real images is that they EXIST. THAT WHICH EXISTS CANNOT GO OUT OF EXISTENCE AND THAT WHICH DOES NOT EXIST CANNOT COME INTO EXISTENCE. "NA SATO VIDYATE BHAVO NA BHAVO VIDYATE SATA" is what gita says. your mail deals with the quest of god which are of two types, one is through bahar yatra and the other is antar yatra. most people undertake bahar yatra and they keep visiting places in circles and rarely they realise god. those fortunate few who undertake antar yatra realise god very easily. however, since this group is visited mostly by netizens who take time out of their busy office or business schedules to have some good knowledge or good place of religious satsang and to have their spiritual doubts clarified, we shall not discourage them on their bahar yatra. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun (moderator) 9948892439 , Shiv Sewak <shiv_sewak wrote: > > Dear Shiv Bhakts, > > This is all very interesting but I am having some difficulty with these variety of legends and wish to go beyond them. > > Even in a physical aspect, God/Shiva, however you wish to address the Supreme, is indifferent to creation and would not be affected by the misfortunes of humanity. I cannot therefore accept that the Supreme would shed tears. That is of course if there is any physical creation at all. > > You may say that this is all real because you can see it. However, consider this, when you sleep and dream, do you not believe that the dream world is very real, because you can see it. What happens to that world when you awaken? It is no longer there because all that sustained it was your mind stuff; it does not exist and never did exist. > > There is in fact no divine intervention all that sustains what you believe to be true is past and current action. Overcome the past by the current and overcome the current by the abandonment of attachment. What is done is done by the mind alone and not by physical actions. > > There is no devi and there is no dev; let go of the concept of duality and rest in the Self alone. > > I believe that much of what is said or written is there to illustrate a point and is not intended to be taken literally. For example, Shiva is not a name for a person who has matted hair from which Ganga flows and who wears the moon on his forhead and has a garland of snakes; it is all symbolic. Look beyond the obvious and question it all. > > There are not many gods, there is not just one god, there is nothing but the ONE, whether you refer to this as Shiva or God does not matter. > > "The Wise Lament Neither for the Living nor the Dead" > > prasanna kumar <groupowner.prasanna wrote: > Dear Esteem Members > > In Sanskrit rudraksha literally means "the eye of Rudra" or "red- eyed", from rud, "to cry," and aksha, meaning "eye". In one story by Saivites, God himself (Siva) shed a tear, on viewing the misfortunes of humanity. This single tear became the first Rudraksha tree, and a sign of his compassion. In another story, while destroying the asura fortress of Tripura (mythology), the seeds from Lord Siva's eyes emerged to form rudraksha. Rudraksha literally stands for the eyes of Lord Shiva implying that it was "pleasant to the eyes of Lord" (Shiva), and hence it is named in his honor. > > Hence join the holy group Rudraksham and seek the knowledge of Rudraksha by clicking the link given below. > > rudraksham/join > > > Regards > Prasanna Kumar > > > > > > Shiv Sewak > > CONFIDENTIALITY CAUTION: IMPORTANT > The information contained in this e-mail, including any attachment (s) is strictly confidential, legally privileged and intended for the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient (or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient) or have received it in error, you are not permitted to retain, use, disclose, disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail, including any attachment(s) or any part of it. Please immediately delete or destroy it and notify me by sending a return e-mail. 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Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun Ji, Thank you for this most helpful message. It is much appreciated and I agree with your comments. Shiv_Sewak panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear shiv bhakts om namo bhagawate rudraya unfortunately several people have WRONGLY interpreted the rudraksha as trees that have grown from the "TEARS" of lord shiva. the shivapuran clearly says that lord shiva did tapas for a thousand years and then decided to break his concentrated meditated state to bless the world. when he opened his eyes, after being in the closed state for a thousand years, few drops of water fell from his eyes. the land where these drops of water from the lord shiva's eyes fell, rudraksha trees have grown. hence, it is sacrilege to say that lord shiva has shed tears and rudraksha have grown from those tears. as adi shankaracharya has clearly mentioned, aham brahmasmi is known only to the realised souls. however, for any person to get self or god realisation, the first step is to follow the path of god and then the quest of god and then the realisation of the self or god. faith and devotion in god is a step in achieving realisation and shall be respected as a step in the process of realisation. as regards seeing things, there are three kinds of images viz. real, unreal and false. real are those images which we see and can capture in the photo with a camera and are physically existing in nature. unreal are those images e.g. we see ourselves in a mirror and they look real but they are unreal. false are those images which one dreams in mind e.g. a 100 headed monster which does not exist. the rule for all real images is that they EXIST. THAT WHICH EXISTS CANNOT GO OUT OF EXISTENCE AND THAT WHICH DOES NOT EXIST CANNOT COME INTO EXISTENCE. "NA SATO VIDYATE BHAVO NA BHAVO VIDYATE SATA" is what gita says. your mail deals with the quest of god which are of two types, one is through bahar yatra and the other is antar yatra. most people undertake bahar yatra and they keep visiting places in circles and rarely they realise god. those fortunate few who undertake antar yatra realise god very easily. however, since this group is visited mostly by netizens who take time out of their busy office or business schedules to have some good knowledge or good place of religious satsang and to have their spiritual doubts clarified, we shall not discourage them on their bahar yatra. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun (moderator) 9948892439 , Shiv Sewak <shiv_sewak wrote: > > Dear Shiv Bhakts, > > This is all very interesting but I am having some difficulty with these variety of legends and wish to go beyond them. > > Even in a physical aspect, God/Shiva, however you wish to address the Supreme, is indifferent to creation and would not be affected by the misfortunes of humanity. I cannot therefore accept that the Supreme would shed tears. That is of course if there is any physical creation at all. > > You may say that this is all real because you can see it. However, consider this, when you sleep and dream, do you not believe that the dream world is very real, because you can see it. What happens to that world when you awaken? It is no longer there because all that sustained it was your mind stuff; it does not exist and never did exist. > > There is in fact no divine intervention all that sustains what you believe to be true is past and current action. Overcome the past by the current and overcome the current by the abandonment of attachment. What is done is done by the mind alone and not by physical actions. > > There is no devi and there is no dev; let go of the concept of duality and rest in the Self alone. > > I believe that much of what is said or written is there to illustrate a point and is not intended to be taken literally. For example, Shiva is not a name for a person who has matted hair from which Ganga flows and who wears the moon on his forhead and has a garland of snakes; it is all symbolic. Look beyond the obvious and question it all. > > There are not many gods, there is not just one god, there is nothing but the ONE, whether you refer to this as Shiva or God does not matter. > > "The Wise Lament Neither for the Living nor the Dead" > > prasanna kumar <groupowner.prasanna wrote: > Dear Esteem Members > > In Sanskrit rudraksha literally means "the eye of Rudra" or "red- eyed", from rud, "to cry," and aksha, meaning "eye". In one story by Saivites, God himself (Siva) shed a tear, on viewing the misfortunes of humanity. This single tear became the first Rudraksha tree, and a sign of his compassion. In another story, while destroying the asura fortress of Tripura (mythology), the seeds from Lord Siva's eyes emerged to form rudraksha. Rudraksha literally stands for the eyes of Lord Shiva implying that it was "pleasant to the eyes of Lord" (Shiva), and hence it is named in his honor. > > Hence join the holy group Rudraksham and seek the knowledge of Rudraksha by clicking the link given below. > > rudraksham/join > > > Regards > Prasanna Kumar > > > > > > Shiv Sewak > > CONFIDENTIALITY CAUTION: IMPORTANT > The information contained in this e-mail, including any attachment (s) is strictly confidential, legally privileged and intended for the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient (or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient) or have received it in error, you are not permitted to retain, use, disclose, disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail, including any attachment(s) or any part of it. Please immediately delete or destroy it and notify me by sending a return e-mail. 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