RE:Guru+sukra-& Guru bashig....Members at large

[Guest guest]

I am amused to read about "Guru Bashing" It is as if it was done with malice in heart. I am sorry stand taken by some learned members in this regard. All planets do good and bad. It is just that Guru is a large planet, his bad is more in quantity and quality than other planets.

I am going to receive velvet gloved fists for this but can't help it.

Tatvam-Asi

 

sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) satyam (DOT) net.in> wrote:

though I have been a member in , but want of time & energy

did not go through many mails until recently......

Good to know that Jupiter bashing has been creative_past_time earlier in the

group !! Well, be assured, I also like brevity

of expression & thoughts, want to see any thread to reach a conclusion in 3

or 4 maximum exchanges !! else, it is a endless

debate or debate with a wrong person or wrong subject...etc...

 

thanks for educating me on previously concluded subjects or issues.

 

with regards,

sreeram srinivas

[Guest guest]

For the record, Tatvamasi ji -- I have never seen you bash any guru,

terrestrial or extraterrestrial (the big guy in the sky --

Brihaspati)!

 

Or anything that it truly represents! One thing that some individuals

get confused about is when they attribute arrogance and hypocricy

with Guru/Jupiter/Brihaspati! These are the very thing that represent

the negative jupiter energy/attributes! Negative means Jupiter is

not 'there' or if it is, it is too distracted.

 

Even a lion can get distracted if a bunch of hyenas attack it at the

same time. I apologize for using a sub-primate analogy! I hope the

meaning is not lost on those who are on the good side of Brihaspati!

May HIS light shine on all of us! Along with that of Sun!!

 

RR

 

, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

wrote:

>

> I am amused to read about "Guru Bashing" It is as if it was done

with malice in heart. I am sorry stand taken by some learned members

in this regard. All planets do good and bad. It is just that Guru is

a large planet, his bad is more in quantity and quality than other

planets.

> I am going to receive velvet gloved fists for this but can't help

it.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

> though I have been a member in , but want

of time & energy

> did not go through many mails until recently......

> Good to know that Jupiter bashing has been creative_past_time

earlier in the

> group !! Well, be assured, I also like brevity

> of expression & thoughts, want to see any thread to reach a

conclusion in 3

> or 4 maximum exchanges !! else, it is a endless

> debate or debate with a wrong person or wrong subject...etc...

>

> thanks for educating me on previously concluded subjects or issues.

>

> with regards,

> sreeram srinivas

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear RR ji,

Your's Truely was responsible for posting a series of articles/postings named " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, Bhava Vriddhi Karau Sani" and "Is Guru Benign?" etc.

I had received bricks and mortars from people in another group.

I was reminded of that when I read thie heading of the subject in question.

Coming to your question of naming the source of adage " Bhava Nasha Karau Jeeva....etc".

I was taught by my late Grand father, a profusely honoured Astrologer . He must have read it in some manuscrips which are still there in our viallge in India.

Or some books of yore.

Tatvam-Asi

 

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

For the record, Tatvamasi ji -- I have never seen you bash any guru,

terrestrial or extraterrestrial (the big guy in the sky --

Brihaspati)!

 

Or anything that it truly represents! One thing that some individuals

get confused about is when they attribute arrogance and hypocricy

with Guru/Jupiter/Brihaspati! These are the very thing that represent

the negative jupiter energy/attributes! Negative means Jupiter is

not 'there' or if it is, it is too distracted.

 

Even a lion can get distracted if a bunch of hyenas attack it at the

same time. I apologize for using a sub-primate analogy! I hope the

meaning is not lost on those who are on the good side of Brihaspati!

May HIS light shine on all of us! Along with that of Sun!!

 

RR

 

, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

wrote:

>

> I am amused to read about "Guru Bashing" It is as if it was done

with malice in heart. I am sorry stand taken by some learned members

in this regard. All planets do good and bad. It is just that Guru is

a large planet, his bad is more in quantity and quality than other

planets.

> I am going to receive velvet gloved fists for this but can't help

it.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

> though I have been a member in , but want

of time & energy

> did not go through many mails until recently......

> Good to know that Jupiter bashing has been creative_past_time

earlier in the

> group !! Well, be assured, I also like brevity

> of expression & thoughts, want to see any thread to reach a

conclusion in 3

> or 4 maximum exchanges !! else, it is a endless

> debate or debate with a wrong person or wrong subject...etc...

>

> thanks for educating me on previously concluded subjects or issues.

>

> with regards,

> sreeram srinivas

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually if I recall correctly, in one of the recent issues of

Astrological Magazine I read something about that and very similar. I

should have indexed it. I also review articles from old issues, the

few that I could bring with me so it could be one of those that had

the article.

 

If I run into it again, I will post it.

 

I personally do not think we should be partial to any planet, be it

guru or shani. Unless we astrologers become neutral students and

observers, we would tend to get biased towards one or the other

planet and that bias will surely trip us during our readings.

 

I have observed that in individuals in the past. Another bias is

about one's own chart. People who spend too much time with their own

chart tend to overemphasize the yogas and rules that apply to their

charts, since they overanalyze and spend so much time with those.

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

wrote:

>

> Dear RR ji,

> Your's Truely was responsible for posting a series of

articles/postings named " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, Bhava Vriddhi Karau

Sani" and "Is Guru Benign?" etc.

> I had received bricks and mortars from people in another group.

> I was reminded of that when I read thie heading of the subject in

question.

>

> Coming to your question of naming the source of adage " Bhava

Nasha Karau Jeeva....etc".

> I was taught by my late Grand father, a profusely honoured

Astrologer . He must have read it in some manuscrips which are still

there in our viallge in India.

> Or some books of yore.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

> For the record, Tatvamasi ji -- I have never seen you

bash any guru,

> terrestrial or extraterrestrial (the big guy in the sky --

> Brihaspati)!

>

> Or anything that it truly represents! One thing that some

individuals

> get confused about is when they attribute arrogance and hypocricy

> with Guru/Jupiter/Brihaspati! These are the very thing that

represent

> the negative jupiter energy/attributes! Negative means Jupiter is

> not 'there' or if it is, it is too distracted.

>

> Even a lion can get distracted if a bunch of hyenas attack it at

the

> same time. I apologize for using a sub-primate analogy! I hope the

> meaning is not lost on those who are on the good side of

Brihaspati!

> May HIS light shine on all of us! Along with that of Sun!!

>

> RR

>

> , Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I am amused to read about "Guru Bashing" It is as if it was done

> with malice in heart. I am sorry stand taken by some learned

members

> in this regard. All planets do good and bad. It is just that Guru

is

> a large planet, his bad is more in quantity and quality than other

> planets.

> > I am going to receive velvet gloved fists for this but can't help

> it.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > though I have been a member in , but want

> of time & energy

> > did not go through many mails until recently......

> > Good to know that Jupiter bashing has been creative_past_time

> earlier in the

> > group !! Well, be assured, I also like brevity

> > of expression & thoughts, want to see any thread to reach a

> conclusion in 3

> > or 4 maximum exchanges !! else, it is a endless

> > debate or debate with a wrong person or wrong subject...etc...

> >

> > thanks for educating me on previously concluded subjects or

issues.

> >

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I had to write on this subject because, some/most people thought and beieved that Guru can never be bad in affecting people. And sani is always bad etc.

Tatvam-Asi

 

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Actually if I recall correctly, in one of the recent issues of

Astrological Magazine I read something about that and very similar. I

should have indexed it. I also review articles from old issues, the

few that I could bring with me so it could be one of those that had

the article.

 

If I run into it again, I will post it.

 

I personally do not think we should be partial to any planet, be it

guru or shani. Unless we astrologers become neutral students and

observers, we would tend to get biased towards one or the other

planet and that bias will surely trip us during our readings.

 

I have observed that in individuals in the past. Another bias is

about one's own chart. People who spend too much time with their own

chart tend to overemphasize the yogas and rules that apply to their

charts, since they overanalyze and spend so much time with those.

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

wrote:

>

> Dear RR ji,

> Your's Truely was responsible for posting a series of

articles/postings named " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, Bhava Vriddhi Karau

Sani" and "Is Guru Benign?" etc.

> I had received bricks and mortars from people in another group.

> I was reminded of that when I read thie heading of the subject in

question.

>

> Coming to your question of naming the source of adage " Bhava

Nasha Karau Jeeva....etc".

> I was taught by my late Grand father, a profusely honoured

Astrologer . He must have read it in some manuscrips which are still

there in our viallge in India.

> Or some books of yore.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

> For the record, Tatvamasi ji -- I have never seen you

bash any guru,

> terrestrial or extraterrestrial (the big guy in the sky --

> Brihaspati)!

>

> Or anything that it truly represents! One thing that some

individuals

> get confused about is when they attribute arrogance and hypocricy

> with Guru/Jupiter/Brihaspati! These are the very thing that

represent

> the negative jupiter energy/attributes! Negative means Jupiter is

> not 'there' or if it is, it is too distracted.

>

> Even a lion can get distracted if a bunch of hyenas attack it at

the

> same time. I apologize for using a sub-primate analogy! I hope the

> meaning is not lost on those who are on the good side of

Brihaspati!

> May HIS light shine on all of us! Along with that of Sun!!

>

> RR

>

> , Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I am amused to read about "Guru Bashing" It is as if it was done

> with malice in heart. I am sorry stand taken by some learned

members

> in this regard. All planets do good and bad. It is just that Guru

is

> a large planet, his bad is more in quantity and quality than other

> planets.

> > I am going to receive velvet gloved fists for this but can't help

> it.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > though I have been a member in , but want

> of time & energy

> > did not go through many mails until recently......

> > Good to know that Jupiter bashing has been creative_past_time

> earlier in the

> > group !! Well, be assured, I also like brevity

> > of expression & thoughts, want to see any thread to reach a

> conclusion in 3

> > or 4 maximum exchanges !! else, it is a endless

> > debate or debate with a wrong person or wrong subject...etc...

> >

> > thanks for educating me on previously concluded subjects or

issues.

> >

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

Planets per se are not good or bad, but they're endowed with authorisation

to oversee the dispensation (all with neutra stance) of the natives karma

which is in real terms good or bad as per our respective perceptions.In

this disposition of roles(for grahas) some are endowed with bringing

suffering and some happiness to the native depending upon his karma

phala.The referrence of classics of subha and asubha should be read in this

context but not the otherway.

For eg in Public administration there are political

administartors/scientific administrators/welfare administrators/justice

administrators etc all having some intended role for the good of society;but

can we singleout and say that justice administration

functonaries(lawyers/police) are bad as they are endowed with authority to

punish some?

This is what I've understood from our elders by keenly observing their way

of life and teaching us (through respective interpretation styles -by words

and deeds);ordainment by sastraas for prayers (with due devotion and not

just for fear)to all grahas is the testimony for such a thinking.

 

Srinivas

 

 

>Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om >

>

>

>Re: RE:Guru+sukra-& Guru bashig....Members at large

>Thu, 2 Nov 2006 04:14:04 -0800 (PST)

>

>Dear RR ji,

> Your's Truely was responsible for posting a series of articles/postings

>named " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva, Bhava Vriddhi Karau Sani" and "Is Guru

>Benign?" etc.

> I had received bricks and mortars from people in another group.

> I was reminded of that when I read thie heading of the subject in

>question.

>

> Coming to your question of naming the source of adage " Bhava Nasha

>Karau Jeeva....etc".

> I was taught by my late Grand father, a profusely honoured Astrologer .

>He must have read it in some manuscrips which are still there in our

>viallge in India.

> Or some books of yore.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> For the record, Tatvamasi ji -- I have never seen you bash any

>guru,

>terrestrial or extraterrestrial (the big guy in the sky --

>Brihaspati)!

>

>Or anything that it truly represents! One thing that some individuals

>get confused about is when they attribute arrogance and hypocricy

>with Guru/Jupiter/Brihaspati! These are the very thing that represent

>the negative jupiter energy/attributes! Negative means Jupiter is

>not 'there' or if it is, it is too distracted.

>

>Even a lion can get distracted if a bunch of hyenas attack it at the

>same time. I apologize for using a sub-primate analogy! I hope the

>meaning is not lost on those who are on the good side of Brihaspati!

>May HIS light shine on all of us! Along with that of Sun!!

>

>RR

>

>, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om

>wrote:

> >

> > I am amused to read about "Guru Bashing" It is as if it was done

>with malice in heart. I am sorry stand taken by some learned members

>in this regard. All planets do good and bad. It is just that Guru is

>a large planet, his bad is more in quantity and quality than other

>planets.

> > I am going to receive velvet gloved fists for this but can't help

>it.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

> > though I have been a member in , but want

>of time & energy

> > did not go through many mails until recently......

> > Good to know that Jupiter bashing has been creative_past_time

>earlier in the

> > group !! Well, be assured, I also like brevity

> > of expression & thoughts, want to see any thread to reach a

>conclusion in 3

> > or 4 maximum exchanges !! else, it is a endless

> > debate or debate with a wrong person or wrong subject...etc...

> >

> > thanks for educating me on previously concluded subjects or issues.

> >

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> >

> >

> >