Colleagues within the jyotish community

___

October 31, 2006

PS: Or perhaps the quote sent by Rajat could be behind the ongoing

competitiveness... and simply the case that those not used to such boldness

may interpret it as rivalry?

//quote from the great Varhamihira's Brihat Samhita where he states that an

astrologer should be bold in the assembly and participate with conviction//

_____________________________

Dear Members,

The internet is a wonderful tool for the dissemination of knowledge, and

those who selflessly offer their services on the various groups (our

colleagues and co-workers) are to be commended (for the most part) for their

efforts. However one question has been on my mind for some time now...

"Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as there 'seems

to be' within our jyotish community?"

Perhaps there is? Perhaps it's a natural consequence of 'learnedness' that

the pride becomes puffed up...unavoidable?

Something worth contemplating, don't you agree :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

___

October 31, 2006

Dear Wendyji,

Pride is a natural consequence of being able to do something

in a better way then common men. Its synonomous with success.

Holding head high is good, but unbendable is not good.

Pride is necessary too for a mans/womens self respect and

for sustenance in society, but

only till a limit where it does not become a irritant or

deterrant in relationships with people with whom one makes.

Pride always has a fall. One knows inside when his pride is

overpowering him, and once this realisation comes in,its better

to make it fall ourselves, befores other do this work.

Constant self-analysis has to be done and re-instating of

humbleness in ones nature too has to be a continous process.

If we do this we are able to allow others to mix with us

or else a wall is created around us and people wish to stay

away unless forced to contact due to some work.

So its always better to be humble and amicable to all

with bare level of pride, but strong convictions.

All communities have rivalry within because human nature is same

everywhere, and humans abound in all communities, so there is

bound to be negative traits too such as zealousy,upmanship,

Inflated Egoistic behaviours, Pompousness, controlling the other

nature, holding power etcetra. But there it would be for long-term.

I feel in Jyotisha Groups this should remain only for short term,

high tide only for a short while ,as more maturity is expected

from astrologers, and one has to clear his heart of all

negativity feelings as hatred etc. before he sits to study the

next chart cause he would falter otherwise.

Any astrologer is expected to be basically cheerful personality,

full of love compassion for others, helpful nature and kind

with humility. Other acdemic injunctions come later.

regards,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> The internet is a wonderful tool for the dissemination of

knowledge, and

> those who selflessly offer their services on the various groups

(our

> colleagues and co-workers) are to be commended (for the most part)

for their

> efforts. However one question has been on my mind for some time

now...

>

> "Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

there 'seems

> to be' within our jyotish community?"

>

> Perhaps there is? Perhaps it's a natural consequence

of 'learnedness' that

> the pride becomes puffed up...unavoidable?

>

> Something worth contemplating, don't you agree :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

November 1, 2006

Dear Wendy,

//"Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

there 'seems to be' within our jyotish community?"//

Pride is a universal phenomenon and may not necessariry related

to a particular learned or any community. It is basic human

nature. Most of us are in the first steps of journey of moving

towards the Self. Pride definitely causes problems here. As we

move on and get closer to the Self Pride will melt away like ice

coming closer to fire. Most of us know this and yet become

victims of pride. Very strange!

Regards,

Krishna

--- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

> Dear Members,

>

> The internet is a wonderful tool for the dissemination of

> knowledge, and

> those who selflessly offer their services on the various

> groups (our

> colleagues and co-workers) are to be commended (for the most

> part) for their

> efforts. However one question has been on my mind for some

> time now...

>

> "Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

> there 'seems

> to be' within our jyotish community?"

>

> Perhaps there is? Perhaps it's a natural consequence of

> 'learnedness' that

> the pride becomes puffed up...unavoidable?

>

> Something worth contemplating, don't you agree :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com

> ___

>

Regards,

Krishna

Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail

(http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/)

November 1, 2006

Nice to 'see you' Krishna, thank you :-))

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

> http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com

___

-

"Krishnamurthy Seetharama" <krishna_1998 >

<jyotish-vidya>

Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:30 PM

Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

Dear Wendy,

//"Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

there 'seems to be' within our jyotish community?"//

Pride is a universal phenomenon and may not necessariry related

to a particular learned or any community. It is basic human

nature. Most of us are in the first steps of journey of moving

towards the Self. Pride definitely causes problems here. As we

move on and get closer to the Self Pride will melt away like ice

coming closer to fire. Most of us know this and yet become

victims of pride. Very strange!

Regards,

Krishna

November 1, 2006

{Om Namo Narayanaya}

Dear Wendy ji, Krishna ji and all,

Namaskar.

It is highly improbable for rivalry not existing in any sphere of

life. It forms the basic setting for life- struggle for existence but

best only when healthy - the one which spurs you on to greater

heights of achievement/learning whatever that may be.

If entangled in the *Maya* of competition, to get ahead of your next

person whatever, however, then it becomes a bane.

I have known it at its most vicious, when my gender, my physical

attributes too have been cited against my achievement amongst the

other gender, which malicious of the highest order have caused me

immense pain.

When one can accept his/her neighbour's success without rancour and

use it to one's advantage to get ahead, then this would not be

rampant.

But we are all humans, very much in the grip of *Maya*, atleast most

of the times, which does account for the *behaviour*.

Regards

Nalini.

jyotish-vidya, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> //"Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

> there 'seems to be' within our jyotish community?"//

>

> Pride is a universal phenomenon and may not necessariry related

> to a particular learned or any community. It is basic human

> nature. Most of us are in the first steps of journey of moving

> towards the Self. Pride definitely causes problems here. As we

> move on and get closer to the Self Pride will melt away like ice

> coming closer to fire. Most of us know this and yet become

> victims of pride. Very strange!

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote:

>

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > The internet is a wonderful tool for the dissemination of

> > knowledge, and

> > those who selflessly offer their services on the various

> > groups (our

> > colleagues and co-workers) are to be commended (for the most

> > part) for their

> > efforts. However one question has been on my mind for some

> > time now...

> >

> > "Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

> > there 'seems

> > to be' within our jyotish community?"

> >

> > Perhaps there is? Perhaps it's a natural consequence of

> > 'learnedness' that

> > the pride becomes puffed up...unavoidable?

> >

> > Something worth contemplating, don't you agree :-)

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > jyotish-vidya

> > ___

> >

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

____________________

______________

> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail

> (http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/)

>

November 2, 2006

Dear Nalini,

//I have known it at its most vicious, when my gender, my physical

attributes too have been cited against my achievement amongst the

other gender, which malicious of the highest order have caused me

immense pain.//

By identifying with our physical attributes and/or gender we can find

ourselves being judged on these grounds...identifying with our own TRUE

nature, which is genderless (attribute-less), we cease to be vulnerable to

ignorant discrimination. It just becomes a non-issue...it may still, of

course, be an issue for those we deal with but this is just something within

them which can affect us only if we submit to such ignorance.

Of course in our roles as wives and mothers gender is uppermost and should

naturally bestow a climate of utmost honour and respect that fosters the

finest female qualities of love and compassion (qualities of nurturing).

Here on this list however, and in the jyotish community generally as well as

out in the work force, we are neither wives nor mothers and should adopt an

attitude of equality. We shouldn't be afraid, in these circumstances, to

demand to be treated as an equal :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

___

-

"nalini2818" <nalini2818 >

<jyotish-vidya>

Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:35 AM

Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

{Om Namo Narayanaya}

Dear Wendy ji, Krishna ji and all,

Namaskar.

It is highly improbable for rivalry not existing in any sphere of

life. It forms the basic setting for life- struggle for existence but

best only when healthy - the one which spurs you on to greater

heights of achievement/learning whatever that may be.

If entangled in the *Maya* of competition, to get ahead of your next

person whatever, however, then it becomes a bane.

I have known it at its most vicious, when my gender, my physical

attributes too have been cited against my achievement amongst the

other gender, which malicious of the highest order have caused me

immense pain.

When one can accept his/her neighbour's success without rancour and

use it to one's advantage to get ahead, then this would not be

rampant.

But we are all humans, very much in the grip of *Maya*, atleast most

of the times, which does account for the *behaviour*.

Regards

Nalini.

jyotish-vidya, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> //"Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

> there 'seems to be' within our jyotish community?"//

>

> Pride is a universal phenomenon and may not necessariry related

> to a particular learned or any community. It is basic human

> nature. Most of us are in the first steps of journey of moving

> towards the Self. Pride definitely causes problems here. As we

> move on and get closer to the Self Pride will melt away like ice

> coming closer to fire. Most of us know this and yet become

> victims of pride. Very strange!

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

November 2, 2006

dear all,

some one once wrote to me that if graha arudha of 1st house falls in

the Leo, that guy will be ususally proud. In my experience, I have

seen that such people will be unbending and perhaps, proud.

Comments invited.

Kishore patnaik

On 11/1/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

> Dear Nalini,

>

> //I have known it at its most vicious, when my gender, my physical

> attributes too have been cited against my achievement amongst the

> other gender, which malicious of the highest order have caused me

> immense pain.//

>

> By identifying with our physical attributes and/or gender we can find

> ourselves being judged on these grounds...identifying with our own TRUE

> nature, which is genderless (attribute-less), we cease to be vulnerable to

> ignorant discrimination. It just becomes a non-issue...it may still, of

> course, be an issue for those we deal with but this is just something within

> them which can affect us only if we submit to such ignorance.

>

> Of course in our roles as wives and mothers gender is uppermost and should

> naturally bestow a climate of utmost honour and respect that fosters the

> finest female qualities of love and compassion (qualities of nurturing).

> Here on this list however, and in the jyotish community generally as well as

> out in the work force, we are neither wives nor mothers and should adopt an

> attitude of equality. We shouldn't be afraid, in these circumstances, to

> demand to be treated as an equal :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> "nalini2818" <nalini2818 >

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:35 AM

> Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

>

> {Om Namo Narayanaya}

>

> Dear Wendy ji, Krishna ji and all,

> Namaskar.

> It is highly improbable for rivalry not existing in any sphere of

> life. It forms the basic setting for life- struggle for existence but

> best only when healthy - the one which spurs you on to greater

> heights of achievement/learning whatever that may be.

> If entangled in the *Maya* of competition, to get ahead of your next

> person whatever, however, then it becomes a bane.

> I have known it at its most vicious, when my gender, my physical

> attributes too have been cited against my achievement amongst the

> other gender, which malicious of the highest order have caused me

> immense pain.

> When one can accept his/her neighbour's success without rancour and

> use it to one's advantage to get ahead, then this would not be

> rampant.

> But we are all humans, very much in the grip of *Maya*, atleast most

> of the times, which does account for the *behaviour*.

>

> Regards

> Nalini.

>

> jyotish-vidya, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Wendy,

> >

> > //"Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

> > there 'seems to be' within our jyotish community?"//

> >

> > Pride is a universal phenomenon and may not necessariry related

> > to a particular learned or any community. It is basic human

> > nature. Most of us are in the first steps of journey of moving

> > towards the Self. Pride definitely causes problems here. As we

> > move on and get closer to the Self Pride will melt away like ice

> > coming closer to fire. Most of us know this and yet become

> > victims of pride. Very strange!

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

>

November 2, 2006

~Om Namo Narayanaya~

Dear Wendy ji,

Thank you for the comforting words. This rivalry never did affect me

except of course the pain it caused to me, I have never felt

*wanting* because of the factors mentioned. I have always had strong

faith in Almighty and myself and I did what I felt was an act

of 'Dharma" and that of the "Truth" and I was never let down.It made

a lot of enemies? though.

The Lord of Dharma and Karma (Saturn and Jupiter)are together in

sagittarius, the moolatrikona of Jupiter, Sun being in the 9th house

of Dharma in aquarius.

It is again a generalisation of sorts but was that right?

The Sav of my 6th house is the highest. Rahu in the nakshatra of Sun

from the 4th in Virgo aspects Pisces, 10th, which has Moon, Ketu and

deb lagna lord. There have always been challenges/obstacles at work.

Could this aspect be the reason for frauds/cheating at the work place?

Lord of the 6th and 11th is in 8th with Venus. I have been diagnosed

being an acute diabetic(due to prolonged use of steroids) during the

Mars AD of MD of Venus.

Regards

Nalini

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Nalini,

>

> //I have known it at its most vicious, when my gender, my physical

> attributes too have been cited against my achievement amongst the

> other gender, which malicious of the highest order have caused me

> immense pain.//

>

> By identifying with our physical attributes and/or gender we can

find

> ourselves being judged on these grounds...identifying with our own

TRUE

> nature, which is genderless (attribute-less), we cease to be

vulnerable to

> ignorant discrimination. It just becomes a non-issue...it may

still, of

> course, be an issue for those we deal with but this is just

something within

> them which can affect us only if we submit to such ignorance.

>

> Of course in our roles as wives and mothers gender is uppermost and

should

> naturally bestow a climate of utmost honour and respect that

fosters the

> finest female qualities of love and compassion (qualities of

nurturing).

> Here on this list however, and in the jyotish community generally

as well as

> out in the work force, we are neither wives nor mothers and should

adopt an

> attitude of equality. We shouldn't be afraid, in these

circumstances, to

> demand to be treated as an equal :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm

> ___

>

> -

> "nalini2818" <nalini2818

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:35 AM

> Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

>

> {Om Namo Narayanaya}

>

> Dear Wendy ji, Krishna ji and all,

> Namaskar.

> It is highly improbable for rivalry not existing in any sphere of

> life. It forms the basic setting for life- struggle for existence

but

> best only when healthy - the one which spurs you on to greater

> heights of achievement/learning whatever that may be.

> If entangled in the *Maya* of competition, to get ahead of your next

> person whatever, however, then it becomes a bane.

> I have known it at its most vicious, when my gender, my physical

> attributes too have been cited against my achievement amongst the

> other gender, which malicious of the highest order have caused me

> immense pain.

> When one can accept his/her neighbour's success without rancour and

> use it to one's advantage to get ahead, then this would not be

> rampant.

> But we are all humans, very much in the grip of *Maya*, atleast most

> of the times, which does account for the *behaviour*.

>

> Regards

> Nalini.

>

> jyotish-vidya, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Wendy,

> >

> > //"Is there as much rivalry within other learned communities as

> > there 'seems to be' within our jyotish community?"//

> >

> > Pride is a universal phenomenon and may not necessariry related

> > to a particular learned or any community. It is basic human

> > nature. Most of us are in the first steps of journey of moving

> > towards the Self. Pride definitely causes problems here. As we

> > move on and get closer to the Self Pride will melt away like ice

> > coming closer to fire. Most of us know this and yet become

> > victims of pride. Very strange!

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

>

November 3, 2006

Dear Nalini,

//The Lord of Dharma and Karma (Saturn and Jupiter)are together in

sagittarius, the moolatrikona of Jupiter, Sun being in the 9th house

of Dharma in aquarius.

It is again a generalisation of sorts but was that right?//

Yes, that's correct. The Dharma houses are 1, 5, 9 and the Karma houses are

3, 7, 11. Jupiter's moolatrikona (Sagittarius) owns 7th and Saturn's

moolatrikona owns 9th. In this instance, of course, 3rd lord Sun aspects his

own sign (a karma house) from 9th. 3rd, as we know, shows our intentions,

our efforts in obtaining short-term desires. The saying, "he/she acted with

the best intentions" would, I'm sure, apply to you :-)

//Rahu in the nakshatra of Sun from the 4th in Virgo aspects Pisces//

No doubt those that adhere to the popular thought will disagree with me,

none-the-less I hold to the conviction of traditional pundits that the nodes

neither aspect nor are they aspected. If we read Parashara (Ch.34: 16-17)

for instance it would appear that the sage is authorising aspects in regards

to the nodes. However, considering carefully his injunction (in sloka 16)

that the nodes give the effects due to the house they occupy etc. we might

better understand the following statement from Pundit G.K. Ojha...

**Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book "Predictive Astrology of the

Hindus", states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor are

aspected. Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality of

that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way, according

to traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or Ketu are

aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under the

realm of aspects as do the other planets.**

More on the aspects of nodes can be seen here:

//There have always been challenges/obstacles at work.

Could this aspect be the reason for frauds/cheating at the work place?

Lord of the 6th and 11th is in 8th with Venus.//

As you say, co-workers (work environment etc) are seen from 6th house, and

8th house, as we know, governs such things as robbery, fraud, criminal

activity, scandal and so forth.

//I have been diagnosed being an acute diabetic(due to prolonged use of

steroids) during the Mars AD of MD of Venus.//

Diabetes is not a pleasant affliction at all...denying a lot of the simple

joys of life. Natural spontaneity in partaking of food is lost when we're

denied so many things...it's a lifetime affliction that complicates the

simplicity of life. I too am diabetic and many days I find myself just too

tired to answer even the simplest mail, let alone one where I might have to

actually think...lack of oxygen carried to the brain slows one down

enormously :-(

Like you, I too have Venus in 8th (conjunct a malefic) aspecting 2nd

house...note again that 2nd governs partaking of food. You might care to

take a look at this page for more information re planetary indicators for

diabetes. http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

> http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm

___

-

"nalini2818" <nalini2818 >

<jyotish-vidya>

Friday, November 03, 2006 5:06 AM

Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

~Om Namo Narayanaya~

Dear Wendy ji,

Thank you for the comforting words. This rivalry never did affect me

except of course the pain it caused to me, I have never felt

*wanting* because of the factors mentioned. I have always had strong

faith in Almighty and myself and I did what I felt was an act

of 'Dharma" and that of the "Truth" and I was never let down.It made

a lot of enemies? though.

The Lord of Dharma and Karma (Saturn and Jupiter)are together in

sagittarius, the moolatrikona of Jupiter, Sun being in the 9th house

of Dharma in aquarius.

It is again a generalisation of sorts but was that right?

The Sav of my 6th house is the highest. Rahu in the nakshatra of Sun

from the 4th in Virgo aspects Pisces, 10th, which has Moon, Ketu and

deb lagna lord. There have always been challenges/obstacles at work.

Could this aspect be the reason for frauds/cheating at the work place?

Lord of the 6th and 11th is in 8th with Venus. I have been diagnosed

being an acute diabetic(due to prolonged use of steroids) during the

Mars AD of MD of Venus.

Regards

Nalini

November 3, 2006

Dear Wendyji,

I think what I write below confirms with what You have

mentioned about the Nodes.

Where I have been learning about Nakshatra Jyotish, even we have been

taught that the normal rules of aspects do not apply to the nodes.

They can be aspected by the other planets, but themselves do not

aspect, and neither each other on the 1/7 axis.

How far this true textually I cannot say, but I believe my Gurus.

regards,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Nalini,

>

> //The Lord of Dharma and Karma (Saturn and Jupiter)are together in

> sagittarius, the moolatrikona of Jupiter, Sun being in the 9th house

> of Dharma in aquarius.

> It is again a generalisation of sorts but was that right?//

>

> Yes, that's correct. The Dharma houses are 1, 5, 9 and the Karma

houses are

> 3, 7, 11. Jupiter's moolatrikona (Sagittarius) owns 7th and Saturn's

> moolatrikona owns 9th. In this instance, of course, 3rd lord Sun

aspects his

> own sign (a karma house) from 9th. 3rd, as we know, shows our

intentions,

> our efforts in obtaining short-term desires. The saying, "he/she

acted with

> the best intentions" would, I'm sure, apply to you :-)

>

> //Rahu in the nakshatra of Sun from the 4th in Virgo aspects

Pisces//

>

> No doubt those that adhere to the popular thought will disagree

with me,

> none-the-less I hold to the conviction of traditional pundits that

the nodes

> neither aspect nor are they aspected. If we read Parashara (Ch.34:

16-17)

> for instance it would appear that the sage is authorising aspects

in regards

> to the nodes. However, considering carefully his injunction (in

sloka 16)

> that the nodes give the effects due to the house they occupy etc.

we might

> better understand the following statement from Pundit G.K. Ojha...

>

> **Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book "Predictive Astrology of the

> Hindus", states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor

are

> aspected. Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the

quality of

> that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way,

according

> to traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or

Ketu are

> aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come

under the

> realm of aspects as do the other planets.**

>

> More on the aspects of nodes can be seen here:

>

> //There have always been challenges/obstacles at work.

> Could this aspect be the reason for frauds/cheating at the work

place?

> Lord of the 6th and 11th is in 8th with Venus.//

>

> As you say, co-workers (work environment etc) are seen from 6th

house, and

> 8th house, as we know, governs such things as robbery, fraud,

criminal

> activity, scandal and so forth.

>

> //I have been diagnosed being an acute diabetic(due to prolonged

use of

> steroids) during the Mars AD of MD of Venus.//

>

> Diabetes is not a pleasant affliction at all...denying a lot of the

simple

> joys of life. Natural spontaneity in partaking of food is lost when

we're

> denied so many things...it's a lifetime affliction that complicates

the

> simplicity of life. I too am diabetic and many days I find myself

just too

> tired to answer even the simplest mail, let alone one where I might

have to

> actually think...lack of oxygen carried to the brain slows one down

> enormously :-(

>

> Like you, I too have Venus in 8th (conjunct a malefic) aspecting 2nd

> house...note again that 2nd governs partaking of food. You might

care to

> take a look at this page for more information re planetary

indicators for

> diabetes. http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm

> ___

>

> -

> "nalini2818" <nalini2818

> <jyotish-vidya>

> Friday, November 03, 2006 5:06 AM

> Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

>

> ~Om Namo Narayanaya~

>

> Dear Wendy ji,

> Thank you for the comforting words. This rivalry never did affect me

> except of course the pain it caused to me, I have never felt

> *wanting* because of the factors mentioned. I have always had strong

> faith in Almighty and myself and I did what I felt was an act

> of 'Dharma" and that of the "Truth" and I was never let down.It made

> a lot of enemies? though.

> The Lord of Dharma and Karma (Saturn and Jupiter)are together in

> sagittarius, the moolatrikona of Jupiter, Sun being in the 9th house

> of Dharma in aquarius.

> It is again a generalisation of sorts but was that right?

> The Sav of my 6th house is the highest. Rahu in the nakshatra of Sun

> from the 4th in Virgo aspects Pisces, 10th, which has Moon, Ketu and

> deb lagna lord. There have always been challenges/obstacles at work.

> Could this aspect be the reason for frauds/cheating at the work

place?

> Lord of the 6th and 11th is in 8th with Venus. I have been diagnosed

> being an acute diabetic(due to prolonged use of steroids) during the

> Mars AD of MD of Venus.

>

> Regards

> Nalini

>

November 4, 2006

{Om Namo Narayanaya}

Dear Wendy ji,

Spot on!!

##The saying, "he/she acted with

the best intentions" would, I'm sure, apply to you :-)##

That was what saved me, that the executives of the Bank concluded that

the intentions were not "malafide' and that the actions were in the

course of business.

- The nodes- would that mean that Rahu being in the mool trikona and in

the sign of the lagna lord, with an aspect from him act as a surrogate?

The lagna lord here being deb what would that entail?

Ketu, in the mool trikona in Pisces, in the nakshatra of Jupiter who is

both the rasi and nakshatra dispositor, in cancer Navamsha- what would

be the results?would the rashi drishti of Jupiter matter?

Thanks for the notes on the Nodes, did clarify some doubts but I got new

ones as u can see)):

I did look at the facts on the planetary combniations/conditions for

diabetes, strange I had never connected 2nd house to partaking of food.

Thanks for the invaluable inputs,

I apologise for my muddled thinking, I seem to have that most times

now!!

Regards

Nalini

take on the In jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek"

<jyotish wrote:

>

> //The Lord of Dharma and Karma (Saturn and Jupiter)are together in

> sagittarius, the moolatrikona of Jupiter, Sun being in the 9th house

> of Dharma in aquarius.

> It is again a generalisation of sorts but was that right?//

>

> Yes, that's correct. The Dharma houses are 1, 5, 9 and the Karma

houses are

> 3, 7, 11. Jupiter's moolatrikona (Sagittarius) owns 7th and Saturn's

> moolatrikona owns 9th. In this instance, of course, 3rd lord Sun

aspects his

> own sign (a karma house) from 9th. 3rd, as we know, shows our

intentions,

> our efforts in obtaining short-term desires. The saying, "he/she acted

with

> the best intentions" would, I'm sure, apply to you :-)

>

> //Rahu in the nakshatra of Sun from the 4th in Virgo aspects Pisces//

>

> No doubt those that adhere to the popular thought will disagree with

me,

> none-the-less I hold to the conviction of traditional pundits that the

nodes

> neither aspect nor are they aspected. If we read Parashara (Ch.34:

16-17)

> for instance it would appear that the sage is authorising aspects in

regards

> to the nodes. However, considering carefully his injunction (in sloka

16)

> that the nodes give the effects due to the house they occupy etc. we

might

> better understand the following statement from Pundit G.K. Ojha...

>

> **Pundit Gopesh Kumar Ojha, in his book "Predictive Astrology of the

> Hindus", states categorically that Rahu and Ketu neither aspect nor

are

> aspected. Certainly, if the house they occupy is aspected, the quality

of

> that house is influenced by the aspecting planet and, in this way,

according

> to traditional astrologers (of the old school), we say that Rahu or

Ketu are

> aspected by a benefic or malefic but they do not themselves come under

the

> realm of aspects as do the other planets.**

>

> More on the aspects of nodes can be seen here:

>

> //There have always been challenges/obstacles at work.

> Could this aspect be the reason for frauds/cheating at the work place?

> Lord of the 6th and 11th is in 8th with Venus.//

>

> As you say, co-workers (work environment etc) are seen from 6th house,

and

> 8th house, as we know, governs such things as robbery, fraud, criminal

> activity, scandal and so forth.

>

> //I have been diagnosed being an acute diabetic(due to prolonged use

of

> steroids) during the Mars AD of MD of Venus.//

>

> Diabetes is not a pleasant affliction at all...denying a lot of the

simple

> joys of life. Natural spontaneity in partaking of food is lost when

we're

> denied so many things...it's a lifetime affliction that complicates

the

> simplicity of life. I too am diabetic and many days I find myself just

too

> tired to answer even the simplest mail, let alone one where I might

have to

> actually think...lack of oxygen carried to the brain slows one down

> enormously :-(

>

> Like you, I too have Venus in 8th (conjunct a malefic) aspecting 2nd

> house...note again that 2nd governs partaking of food. You might care

to

> take a look at this page for more information re planetary indicators

for

> diabetes. http://jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> "nalini2818" nalini2818

> Friday, November 03, 2006 5:06 AM

> Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

>

> ~Om Namo Narayanaya~

>

> Dear Wendy ji,

> Thank you for the comforting words. This rivalry never did affect me

> except of course the pain it caused to me, I have never felt

> *wanting* because of the factors mentioned. I have always had strong

> faith in Almighty and myself and I did what I felt was an act

> of 'Dharma" and that of the "Truth" and I was never let down.It made

> a lot of enemies? though.

> The Lord of Dharma and Karma (Saturn and Jupiter)are together in

> sagittarius, the moolatrikona of Jupiter, Sun being in the 9th house

> of Dharma in aquarius.

> It is again a generalisation of sorts but was that right?

> The Sav of my 6th house is the highest. Rahu in the nakshatra of Sun

> from the 4th in Virgo aspects Pisces, 10th, which has Moon, Ketu and

> deb lagna lord. There have always been challenges/obstacles at work.

> Could this aspect be the reason for frauds/cheating at the work place?

> Lord of the 6th and 11th is in 8th with Venus. I have been diagnosed

> being an acute diabetic(due to prolonged use of steroids) during the

> Mars AD of MD of Venus.

>

> Regards

> Nalini

>

November 4, 2006

Dear Bhaskar,

This is just common sense really. If the nodes aspected each other, each

would be virtually nullified...two diametrically opposite forces.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

___

-

"Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in>

<jyotish-vidya>

Friday, November 03, 2006 3:23 PM

Re: Colleagues within the jyotish community

Dear Wendyji,

I think what I write below confirms with what You have

mentioned about the Nodes.

Where I have been learning about Nakshatra Jyotish, even we have been

taught that the normal rules of aspects do not apply to the nodes.

They can be aspected by the other planets, but themselves do not

aspect, and neither each other on the 1/7 axis.

How far this true textually I cannot say, but I believe my Gurus.

regards,

Bhaskar.

November 6, 2006

Dear Nalini,

//- The nodes- would that mean that Rahu being in the mool trikona and in

the sign of the lagna lord, with an aspect from him act as a surrogate?//

I'm not sure what you mean by surrogate?

//The lagna lord here being deb what would that entail?//

Certainly lagnesh Mercury in sign of debilitation (in 10th) conjunct Ketu

indicates some challenges for you in regards to 10th house affairs i.e.,

status, career, promotion, living in foreign lands and so forth.

//Ketu, in the mool trikona in Pisces, in the nakshatra of Jupiter who is

both the rasi and nakshatra dispositor, in cancer Navamsha- what would

be the results?//

I'm confident to say that here too the qualities of spirituality, integrity,

humility etc are pronounced. 9th lord Saturn, conjunct Ketu's dispositor,

aspects Sun in 9th.

There is a saying... "To those whom much is given, much is asked for." Life

is not without challenges for you, but there are abundant (spiritual)

blessings...much is given, much is asked for :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy