Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Anna ji, ///does your own experience confirm this /you've been in Rahu period yourself/, or your impression based on charts you've studied?/// Knowledge comes from reading and from personal experience. I have both read about this, and experienced it too. Last year, while running Bu-Ra-Ku I got a job, but lost it while running Bu-Gu-Gu. Got another job in Bu-Gu-Sa. Of course, I may have to blame Neecha Guru in my chart--as Wendy ji said in a post on Parasara: ///49-51. If Guru is in his debilitation Rashi, combust, associated with malefics, or in Ari, or Randhr, there will be during his Dasha loss of residential premises, anxiety, distress to children, loss of cattle and pilgrimage. The Dasha will give some unfavourable effects at its commencement only. During the later part of the Dasha there will be good effects, like gain of wealth, awards from and recognition by Government./// I faced anxiety and distress, but Yogakaraka Sani got me a job. :-) ///Is there any explanation of this 'exception'? Maybe bcs Sa is at the same time a badhakesh for Taurus Lagna?/// Badakadipati is a Jaimini concept--please don't mix it with Parasara! As Wendy ji said, Sani causes delays--but he need not deny. Sani represents the air principle, and so you can connect it to music--something that Robery Svoboda mentions in "The Greatness of Saturn." In music, we have "sa re ga ma..." Let's take the first SA as SAni/SAturn. To get to a stage and sing "sa re ga ma..." you need practice and patience and years of hardwork--which are represented by Sani. Sani teaches you through slowness and suffering. To refer to Svoboda's book on Sani again, Sani tells him that shortly, he, Sani will be entering Vikramaditya's 12th from Chandra, Kanya. Sani tortures Vikramaditya though he is the Raja Yoga Karaka from Chandra Lagna! But in the end, when Sani meets Vikramaditya and tells the latter to ask a boon, Vikramaditya asks not anything for himself--he just says, "don't trouble anybody else the way you have troubled me." Sani had taught Vikramaditya the true meaning of Vairagya--something that few understand! If you visit this page: http://www.brihaspati.net/sani.htm You will see this line, said by Narasimha to Sani: ///O Sani, I am pleased with your devotion. What ever you desire that will benefit the world, ask for that kind of boon and I will grant it./// Once again the Vairagya of Sani is evident! Sani's slowness has a purpose--in the Hitopadesa, it is said that religious merit, wealth and glory have to be collected slowly, like raindrops. No one becomes religious overnight, it takes a lot of time! ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail (http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Dear Balaji, Thanks for this post- for sharing info and 'food for thoughts' as well. -Rahu- I have my share in Rahu story- I got married and gave birth to my son in Ve-Ra, and divorced in Ve-Ju! Well, Rahu does give marriage often, due to its nature... As we look at Vimsottari, AD seems to bring this result, rather than MD /?/ -You lost the job and got another one in JuAD- second part of Ju AD was actually favourable, I'd say- first part wasn't, due to its neecha pos. AD is one that becomes the lord, so to speak, in Vimsottari, affecting events strongly -I don't see any reason not to research both Parasara and Jamini concepts- it may happen that both 'work'- so far re badhakesh issue I haven't seen that- but am still open to the 'experiment' -Greatness of Saturn is really great educational tool, I agree! Thanks again for sharing, Anna Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji > wrote: Anna ji, ///does your own experience confirm this /you've been in Rahu period yourself/, or your impression based on charts you've studied?/// Knowledge comes from reading and from personal experience. I have both read about this, and experienced it too. Last year, while running Bu-Ra-Ku I got a job, but lost it while running Bu-Gu-Gu. Got another job in Bu-Gu-Sa. Of course, I may have to blame Neecha Guru in my chart--as Wendy ji said in a post on Parasara: ///49-51. If Guru is in his debilitation Rashi, combust, associated with malefics, or in Ari, or Randhr, there will be during his Dasha loss of residential premises, anxiety, distress to children, loss of cattle and pilgrimage. The Dasha will give some unfavourable effects at its commencement only. During the later part of the Dasha there will be good effects, like gain of wealth, awards from and recognition by Government./// I faced anxiety and distress, but Yogakaraka Sani got me a job. :-) ///Is there any explanation of this 'exception'? Maybe bcs Sa is at the same time a badhakesh for Taurus Lagna?/// Badakadipati is a Jaimini concept--please don't mix it with Parasara! As Wendy ji said, Sani causes delays--but he need not deny. Sani represents the air principle, and so you can connect it to music--something that Robery Svoboda mentions in "The Greatness of Saturn." In music, we have "sa re ga ma..." Let's take the first SA as SAni/SAturn. To get to a stage and sing "sa re ga ma..." you need practice and patience and years of hardwork--which are represented by Sani. Sani teaches you through slowness and suffering. To refer to Svoboda's book on Sani again, Sani tells him that shortly, he, Sani will be entering Vikramaditya's 12th from Chandra, Kanya. Sani tortures Vikramaditya though he is the Raja Yoga Karaka from Chandra Lagna! But in the end, when Sani meets Vikramaditya and tells the latter to ask a boon, Vikramaditya asks not anything for himself--he just says, "don't trouble anybody else the way you have troubled me." Sani had taught Vikramaditya the true meaning of Vairagya--something that few understand! If you visit this page: http://www.brihaspati.net/sani.htm You will see this line, said by Narasimha to Sani: ///O Sani, I am pleased with your devotion. What ever you desire that will benefit the world, ask for that kind of boon and I will grant it./// Once again the Vairagya of Sani is evident! Sani's slowness has a purpose--in the Hitopadesa, it is said that religious merit, wealth and glory have to be collected slowly, like raindrops. No one becomes religious overnight, it takes a lot of time! ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ ________ Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail (http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/) Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Dear Anna, //-I don't see any reason not to research both Parasara and Jamini concepts- it may happen that both 'work'- so far re badhakesh issue I haven't seen that- but am still open to the 'experiment'// Of course both work! just not together. Either you're using Jaimini chara dasa or vimsottari dasa, and, what we're pointing out here is that it's a futile exercise to incorporate badhaksthana into vimsottari. This (erroneous) concept of blending both systems together was popularised by a certain group of pseudo-gurus who (obviously) lacked the necessary discernment to distinguish between the two very distinct systems of prediction. You personally, Anna, have been aware of my stand on this since the early days of Gjlist so, why should it be an issue now? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "A.R." <bonamente108 > <jyotish-vidya> Monday, October 30, 2006 4:25 PM Re: Anna ji - Rahu / Badakadipati Dear Balaji, Thanks for this post- for sharing info and 'food for thoughts' as well. -Rahu- I have my share in Rahu story- I got married and gave birth to my son in Ve-Ra, and divorced in Ve-Ju! Well, Rahu does give marriage often, due to its nature... As we look at Vimsottari, AD seems to bring this result, rather than MD /?/ -You lost the job and got another one in JuAD- second part of Ju AD was actually favourable, I'd say- first part wasn't, due to its neecha pos. AD is one that becomes the lord, so to speak, in Vimsottari, affecting events strongly -I don't see any reason not to research both Parasara and Jamini concepts- it may happen that both 'work'- so far re badhakesh issue I haven't seen that- but am still open to the 'experiment' -Greatness of Saturn is really great educational tool, I agree! Thanks again for sharing, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Dear Wendy, I can sense your disappointment- believe me, I didn't bring this issue with /bad/ intention to question your stand: that would be too pretentious, considering your enormous experience- I, however, do not have defined position /test which requires lots of experience/ on many /controversial?/ issues. I still "accumulate" knowledge which hopefully will get more and more 'crystallized'. The post 'triggered' my interest in that direction-just that. Openness to knowledge/honest interest in it is the only motive I've had. What you said about applicability of each system is a good argument, indeed. But you've arrived there- I still travel:] You know that R.Houck used western and Jyotish combined- I know that you don't but would like to hear your opinion on his method /I'm exploring, too- powerful western 'directions' and Jyotish foundation/ I am sorry I wasn't sensitive enough /not to discuss jaimini on parashara's List!/ Regards, Anna Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Anna, //-I don't see any reason not to research both Parasara and Jamini concepts- it may happen that both 'work'- so far re badhakesh issue I haven't seen that- but am still open to the 'experiment'// Of course both work! just not together. Either you're using Jaimini chara dasa or vimsottari dasa, and, what we're pointing out here is that it's a futile exercise to incorporate badhaksthana into vimsottari. This (erroneous) concept of blending both systems together was popularised by a certain group of pseudo-gurus who (obviously) lacked the necessary discernment to distinguish between the two very distinct systems of prediction. You personally, Anna, have been aware of my stand on this since the early days of Gjlist so, why should it be an issue now? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "A.R." <bonamente108 > <jyotish-vidya> Monday, October 30, 2006 4:25 PM Re: Anna ji - Rahu / Badakadipati Dear Balaji, Thanks for this post- for sharing info and 'food for thoughts' as well. -Rahu- I have my share in Rahu story- I got married and gave birth to my son in Ve-Ra, and divorced in Ve-Ju! Well, Rahu does give marriage often, due to its nature... As we look at Vimsottari, AD seems to bring this result, rather than MD /?/ -You lost the job and got another one in JuAD- second part of Ju AD was actually favourable, I'd say- first part wasn't, due to its neecha pos. AD is one that becomes the lord, so to speak, in Vimsottari, affecting events strongly -I don't see any reason not to research both Parasara and Jamini concepts- it may happen that both 'work'- so far re badhakesh issue I haven't seen that- but am still open to the 'experiment' -Greatness of Saturn is really great educational tool, I agree! Thanks again for sharing, Anna The best gets better. See why everyone is raving about the All-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Dear Anna, It's okay :-) I've been rather busy the last few days and, no doubt, I'm feeling a little tired and cranky. Perhaps I should take a step back tomorrow and just spend some quiet time with 'ME'. Yes, there are those who blend Western and Vedic...James Braha is another that comes to mind, at least he used to, don't know if he still does or not? For me, I fell in love instantly with jyotish and knew there and then, without question, that I'd found my way 'HOME'. There was never any thought of continuing with Western! Never did I find studying difficult...it was all familiar somehow, as though this knowledge had always been there in the back of my mind and I'd just forgotten it for awhile (whilst I was busy raising children etc.). But the time came when that part was over, and there was jyotish...waiting patiently for me to come home :-)) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "A.R." <bonamente108 > <jyotish-vidya> Monday, October 30, 2006 7:07 PM Re: Anna ji - Rahu / Badakadipati Dear Wendy, I can sense your disappointment- believe me, I didn't bring this issue with /bad/ intention to question your stand: that would be too pretentious, considering your enormous experience- I, however, do not have defined position /test which requires lots of experience/ on many /controversial?/ issues. I still "accumulate" knowledge which hopefully will get more and more 'crystallized'. The post 'triggered' my interest in that direction-just that. Openness to knowledge/honest interest in it is the only motive I've had. What you said about applicability of each system is a good argument, indeed. But you've arrived there- I still travel:] You know that R.Houck used western and Jyotish combined- I know that you don't but would like to hear your opinion on his method /I'm exploring, too- powerful western 'directions' and Jyotish foundation/ I am sorry I wasn't sensitive enough /not to discuss jaimini on parashara's List!/ Regards, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Anna ji, ///I got married and gave birth to my son in Ve-Ra, and divorced in Ve-Ju!/// Sorry to hear that! But again, we nitice loss of what Rahu gave in the period of Guru! ///As we look at Vimsottari, AD seems to bring this result, rather than MD?/// If you look at MD, AD and PD, the PD seems to have the greatest say, though it operates for such a short time. Of course, what the PD gives needs to be "sanctioned" by AD and MD. ///I don't see any reason not to research both Parasara and Jamini concepts- it may happen that both 'work'/// As Wendy ji has already pointed out, both work. You can practice both too--only, study the chart with one system first, and then the other, without mixing the two. If you want badakadipati, then don't forget to use rasi dasa too! ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Dear Balaji, Yes I mentioned that case is support of your statement. Some sources say, and my experience so far seems to support that, is that AD becomes more prominent in giving results /than MD/ so much so that some astrologers look at AD right away, setting MD aside. I never do that, although I also noticed that AD 'prevalence'. MD sets up the tone, so to speak, but actual results seem to be strongly related to AD primarily. PD? It seems to me that its effects are MORE related to AD than AD/MD relationship mentioned above. One more note: ...but, It IS important that one see relationship /kendra, trine, dusthana../ btw MD lord and AD Lord- that says how much sync., is btw them Regards, Anna Balaji Narasimhan <sherlosckbalaji > wrote: Anna ji, ///I got married and gave birth to my son in Ve-Ra, and divorced in Ve-Ju!/// Sorry to hear that! But again, we nitice loss of what Rahu gave in the period of Guru! ///As we look at Vimsottari, AD seems to bring this result, rather than MD?/// If you look at MD, AD and PD, the PD seems to have the greatest say, though it operates for such a short time. Of course, what the PD gives needs to be "sanctioned" by AD and MD. ///I don't see any reason not to research both Parasara and Jamini concepts- it may happen that both 'work'/// As Wendy ji has already pointed out, both work. You can practice both too--only, study the chart with one system first, and then the other, without mixing the two. If you want badakadipati, then don't forget to use rasi dasa too! ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ ________ Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.) Share your photos with the people who matter at Canada Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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