Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Hi What are the main differences betwen SA and the older systems and why you avoid SA? Im in a SA group but ijm not sure which is best Ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Dear Krishna, The Systems Approach (SA) was introduced by on account of the (supposed) contradictions found in the classic texts. This is a prime example of what happens when one is unable to distinguish between the different methods of prediction, namely Parashara and Jaimini. Mr. Choudhry gave up trying to reconcile the differences and devised his own system, which BTW does meet with a certain amount of success. This, I believe, is due to the emphasis given to moolatrikona house...if I'm not mistaken, only the moolatrikona house is considered whilst the karaka (only) is considered for own house. (I'm sure some SA person will correct me if I'm in error) Parashara himself tells us that moolatrikona takes precedence over own sign, but this was not meant to imply that we discard the planets own sign. Unfortunately many of us forget some of these basic principles (strongest house etc). The number of astrologers today who still mix the two systems is astounding. (I must emphasise here that these are different systems of prediction and not different astrology systems.) As stated on the Jyotish-Vidya group page: "The distinction between Parashara and Jaimini systems is not always clear as often the two very different techniques of prediction are ill-defined...resulting in many contradictions. In the simplest terms; Jaimini method uses rasi dasas, rasi aspects and chara karakas, whereas Parashara is based on graha (vimsottari) dasa, graha aspects and constant, or natural, karakas." The Parashara system is so pure in its simplicity and is recommended for this day and age (KaliYuga) where the mind is so heavy. Parashara stands alone and blending it with other systems leads only to endless confusion and contradictions, as all those who have developed their own system found out. What they've done, unfortunately, is thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya> Friday, February 09, 2007 12:04 AM SA Dear Wendy, Great! Nice to see you back in action! Recently, I came across a new approach to Astrology known as Systems Approach (or SATVA). Have you studied this approach? If yes, what is your opinion on the same? Regards, Krishna Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Dear Wendy, Thanks for your view on SA. I browsed through their web site, and notice the high importance given to Moola Trikona house. I notice that most of the concepts are taken from the classics and presented with new terminology like MMP, MEP etc. Also, one main difference is over-emphasis on certain principles and rejecting some others as you have rightly pointed out. Though it appears to be a short cut to success in predictive astrology, it may not be so in reality. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > The Systems Approach (SA) was introduced by on > account of the > (supposed) contradictions found in the classic texts. This is > a prime > example of what happens when one is unable to distinguish > between the > different methods of prediction, namely Parashara and Jaimini. > Mr. Choudhry > gave up trying to reconcile the differences and devised his > own system, > which BTW does meet with a certain amount of success. This, I > believe, is > due to the emphasis given to moolatrikona house...if I'm not > mistaken, only > the moolatrikona house is considered whilst the karaka (only) > is considered > for own house. > > (I'm sure some SA person will correct me if I'm in error) > > Parashara himself tells us that moolatrikona takes precedence > over own sign, > but this was not meant to imply that we discard the planets > own sign. > Unfortunately many of us forget some of these basic principles > (strongest > house etc). > > The number of astrologers today who still mix the two systems > is astounding. > (I must emphasise here that these are different systems of > prediction and > not different astrology systems.) > > As stated on the Jyotish-Vidya group page: > "The distinction between Parashara and Jaimini systems is not > always clear > as often the two very different techniques of prediction are > ill-defined...resulting in many contradictions. In the > simplest terms; > Jaimini method uses rasi dasas, rasi aspects and chara > karakas, whereas > Parashara is based on graha (vimsottari) dasa, graha aspects > and constant, > or natural, karakas." > > The Parashara system is so pure in its simplicity and is > recommended for > this day and age (KaliYuga) where the mind is so heavy. > Parashara stands > alone and blending it with other systems leads only to endless > confusion and > contradictions, as all those who have developed their own > system found out. > What they've done, unfortunately, is thrown the baby out with > the bathwater. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > > > > > - > "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" <krishna_1998 > > <jyotish-vidya> > Friday, February 09, 2007 12:04 AM > SA > > > Dear Wendy, > > Great! Nice to see you back in action! > > Recently, I came across a new approach to Astrology known as > Systems Approach (or SATVA). Have you studied this approach? > If > yes, what is your opinion on the same? > > Regards, > Krishna > > > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at > www.Answers.. Try it > now. > > > Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Wendy ji, ///Parashara himself tells us that moolatrikona takes precedence over own sign, but this was not meant to imply that we discard the planets own sign. Unfortunately many of us forget some of these basic principles (strongest house etc)./// >From my own experience, I have found that if you take the praatyantar of a graha and then divide it into two, then, in the first part, it gives moolatrikona results; later, it gives its other house results. One case - take me, when I was running bu - ra - ku in 2005. When Kuja's Pratyantar started, I got a job and a pay hike--Kuja gives Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga to 10th lord Guru and moolatrikona falls in the 11th house of gains. But, later, I suffered a serious stomach upset when Kuja started giving results of the 6th house of diseases in general and the digestive tract in particular. Again, when I was running bu - gu - sa in end 2005 - beginning of 2006, I got a job in the first part--Moolatrikona of Sani falls in the 9th house of solutions to problems. Later on, I faced enormous difficulties in getting inputs for certain stories when Sani's 8th house effects kicked in--after all, the 8th rules agonies. But still, the 9th house prevailed because I got the inputs for the required story, and good praise from my editor for my persistance--note that Sani also rules endurance and patience. I'm sorry if I keep repeating myself, Wendy ji--but, one day, I hope that you write a book on why Parasarian purity is so essential! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers./dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Dear Balaji, Yes I'm in agreement. It's a huge mistake to ignore results due to 'Own House' lordship... I too can testify to the significance of this. //I'm sorry if I keep repeating myself, Wendy ji--but, one day, I hope that you write a book on why Parasarian purity is so essential! :-)// We'll see :-)) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Balaji Narasimhan" <sherlockbalaji > <jyotish-vidya> Friday, February 09, 2007 8:31 PM Re: SA Wendy ji, ///Parashara himself tells us that moolatrikona takes precedence over own sign, but this was not meant to imply that we discard the planets own sign. Unfortunately many of us forget some of these basic principles (strongest house etc)./// >From my own experience, I have found that if you take the praatyantar of a graha and then divide it into two, then, in the first part, it gives moolatrikona results; later, it gives its other house results. One case - take me, when I was running bu - ra - ku in 2005. When Kuja's Pratyantar started, I got a job and a pay hike--Kuja gives Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga to 10th lord Guru and moolatrikona falls in the 11th house of gains. But, later, I suffered a serious stomach upset when Kuja started giving results of the 6th house of diseases in general and the digestive tract in particular. Again, when I was running bu - gu - sa in end 2005 - beginning of 2006, I got a job in the first part--Moolatrikona of Sani falls in the 9th house of solutions to problems. Later on, I faced enormous difficulties in getting inputs for certain stories when Sani's 8th house effects kicked in--after all, the 8th rules agonies. But still, the 9th house prevailed because I got the inputs for the required story, and good praise from my editor for my persistance--note that Sani also rules endurance and patience. I'm sorry if I keep repeating myself, Wendy ji--but, one day, I hope that you write a book on why Parasarian purity is so essential! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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