Did scriptures fail? jyotish -Rohini ji

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Dear Rohini ji

I do not think the real Brahmins.. the real learned ones of

yesteryears had any reservations regarding transfer of Knowledge.The

Realized ones will never be scared as they have confidence.Fear is

lack of Confidence.Sruthis are the ''heard'' ones and in reality

they are the ones heard from Atma rather than books.

But as you suspect ,during the later stages,the semi-learned and

half baked might have misinterpreted and started keeping the

knowledge unto themselves or keeping it as a secret.

I see knowledge to be kept as a secret only under certain

circumstances.a)Marma Vidya in Martial arts.If it is given to a

chandala(not by birth) then he will definitely misuse.b)One who may

use principles in Jyotishasthra for harming others -But this is

impossible and not a worry.Jyotish cannot be mastered without Tapas.

(Eg only those who understand Rashi Chakra can understand Vargas -

Others will se them as seperate entities.They can only study anatomy

without a clue about physiology).

But i fail to see why Gayatri should be hidden.Some say it should

not go in wrong hands!!!.What is this mantra for?.One is seeking

discriminative intelligence through Gayatri -Thus even a wrong hand

will turn out to be good through it!!!Then what to scare!!.

But Brahmin is the one like Chandrashekhar ji who says Light

(Knowledge) cannot be hidden.We should have Samabhavana before

aspiring for spiritual ascent.

Pradeep

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Thanks! Often people translate shruthis as part of oral tradition

> (when transmission was from teacher's mouth to student's ears). It

is

> generally presumed that this was prior to there being script. I

find

> that difficult to reconcile to because minds capable of such

complex

> thinking surely knew how to write! Perhaps there was some

sacredness

> or secrecy that made the ancient Indians to use the mouth-to-ear

> apprach instead of hand-to-eye.

>

> Shruthis as you describe would be like channeling.

>

> RR

>

> , "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ranjan ji

> >

> > Scriptures called shruthis are the ''heard ones''.It is often

> > referred to in the puranas as ''ashareeri- some sound coming

from

> > the heavens or distance''.Ashareeri is atma ,ie the one without

a

> > shareera or body.Atma knows everything.It is nothing there that

the

> > atma doesn't know.For example we can think of Bhava-Abhinaya or

> > acting.When ego is giving us an individual stamp,how will we act

as

> > someone else?

> > It is only by forgetting oneself,one can become the other bhava

in

> > totality.Forgetting oneself is like going close to one's REAL

> > SELF.There the mind ceases and merges with jeevatma.

> > When we do any of the following say,seek /act/sing/learn/recite

> > mantras/think,pray/play/paint/cry with sincerity we will feel

the

> > smell or bliss as you have said.The TRUTHS that come from such

> > proximity cannot be got obtained from any book.

> >

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > , "Rohiniranjan"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > We all tacitly or implicitly have expressed over eons OR at

least

> > have

> > > held on to the belief that all truths and all that is valuable

to

> > learn

> > > and KNOW for humans came from scriptures!

> > >

> > > Of course -- then there is the issue of Whose scriptures

really

> > win, or

> > > at least outlast! Not in the existence or persistence of the

> > WRITINGS

> > > but on their DIRECT impact on human lives centuries after the

> > original

> > > WORD got written/disseminated!

> > >

> > > The existence of a beautiful but ultimately evanescent rose

lies

> > in its

> > > sight and smell and those are limited to few those that get

close

> > > enough to the rose, in TIME!

> > >

> > > Whither jyotish? Please share!!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> >

>