Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 sir, since i have been learning vedic astrology, i have came to know that there are two methods for interpreting charts. one is by rashi and second is by bhavas. also rashi gives us stable interpretations as they are stationary while bhava give is temporary as it is based on placement of lagna that changes with time. now the question arises if rashis are responsible for the work areas according to the stength of rashis than what houses do. planets contains energy and it can be more or less according to the placement in different rashis. but what happens to that energy according to bhavas or houses even if they are going to give us temporary affect on our life. what if we, for a while only, consider the houses not rashis that what shall be the results in the prediction or chart reading. i am asking this because so many quiries comes in this group saying the placment of different plants in different houses. no one ask for the placement of planets in rashis. but the predictions u read in a chart is always according to the rashis. also how can it be possible that if a group has a particular plant in particular house has the same effect, if they may have different lagna, when the resposiblities of a planet changes in a chart according to the lagna. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 A debilitated planet spoils the house where it is placed. A combust planet spoils the attributes of the house HE OWNS !! with regards, sreeram srinivas _____ [] On Behalf Of jaswinder Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:10 PM rashi or bhava sir, since i have been learning vedic astrology, i have came to know that there are two methods for interpreting charts. one is by rashi and second is by bhavas. also rashi gives us stable interpretations as they are stationary while bhava give is temporary as it is based on placement of lagna that changes with time. now the question arises if rashis are responsible for the work areas according to the stength of rashis than what houses do. planets contains energy and it can be more or less according to the placement in different rashis. but what happens to that energy according to bhavas or houses even if they are going to give us temporary affect on our life. what if we, for a while only, consider the houses not rashis that what shall be the results in the prediction or chart reading. i am asking this because so many quiries comes in this group saying the placment of different plants in different houses. no one ask for the placement of planets in rashis. but the predictions u read in a chart is always according to the rashis. also how can it be possible that if a group has a particular plant in particular house has the same effect, if they may have different lagna, when the resposiblities of a planet changes in a chart according to the lagna. thanks .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=9699862/grpspId=1705082690/msgId =36734/stime=1161844811/nc1=3848642/nc2=3848571/nc3=3848577> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 The predictions in astrology needs to be based on seven parameters - Planet, House, Sign, Planet & House, House & sign, Planet & Sign, Planet+House+Sign Any good prediction made on combination of Planet + House ( bhava) + Sign) is the most accurate. This also called Seven Step method....as given in Rishi Hora. ( an astro classic). Ignoring this would be at the risk of prediction going wrong. Trust this has answered you inquisitive query.... with regards, sreeram srinivas sreeram64 (AT) satyam (DOT) net.in _____ [] On Behalf Of jaswinder Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:10 PM rashi or bhava sir, since i have been learning vedic astrology, i have came to know that there are two methods for interpreting charts. one is by rashi and second is by bhavas. also rashi gives us stable interpretations as they are stationary while bhava give is temporary as it is based on placement of lagna that changes with time. now the question arises if rashis are responsible for the work areas according to the stength of rashis than what houses do. planets contains energy and it can be more or less according to the placement in different rashis. but what happens to that energy according to bhavas or houses even if they are going to give us temporary affect on our life. what if we, for a while only, consider the houses not rashis that what shall be the results in the prediction or chart reading. i am asking this because so many quiries comes in this group saying the placment of different plants in different houses. no one ask for the placement of planets in rashis. but the predictions u read in a chart is always according to the rashis. also how can it be possible that if a group has a particular plant in particular house has the same effect, if they may have different lagna, when the resposiblities of a planet changes in a chart according to the lagna. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 that's ok but what if rahu is also with debilited sun in that house combusting another planet. is it so that rahu is making eclips to sun. in that condition the sun has two problems. one is debilited and another is eclipsed. that what will happend to the combust planet. can debilited or eclipsed sun has power to combust that planet? i think debilited sun can combust some plant but eclipsed cannot because at that time the sun is totally out of its energy. is it so that in that condition we can't say that, that planet is not combust at all. , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > A debilitated planet spoils the house where it is placed. > > A combust planet spoils the attributes of the house HE OWNS !! > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > > > _____ > > > [] On Behalf Of jaswinder > Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:10 PM > > rashi or bhava > > > > sir, > > since i have been learning vedic astrology, i have came to know that > there are two methods for interpreting charts. one is by rashi and > second is by bhavas. also rashi gives us stable interpretations as > they are stationary while bhava give is temporary as it is based on > placement of lagna that changes with time. > > now the question arises if rashis are responsible for the work areas > according to the stength of rashis than what houses do. planets > contains energy and it can be more or less according to the placement > in different rashis. but what happens to that energy according to > bhavas or houses even if they are going to give us temporary affect > on our life. > > what if we, for a while only, consider the houses not rashis that > what shall be the results in the prediction or chart reading. > > i am asking this because so many quiries comes in this group saying > the placment of different plants in different houses. no one ask for > the placement of planets in rashis. but the predictions u read in a > chart is always according to the rashis. > > also how can it be possible that if a group has a particular plant in > particular house has the same effect, if they may have different > lagna, when the resposiblities of a planet changes in a chart > according to the lagna. > > thanks > > . > > <http://geo./serv? s=97359714/grpId=9699862/grpspId=1705082690/msgId > =36734/stime=1161844811/nc1=3848642/nc2=3848571/nc3=3848577> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Ok let us analyze it with an example......first it is a monkey, further it also drank to the brim....!! what is the current state of the monkey ??? It is anybody's guess. Similarly, Sun is debilitated is first negative, It is with Rahu is second negative, all this indicate.......( in absence of the horoscope ) let me predict that the native's father has is a fallen moral character. The other issue is whether this Sun has capacity to combust other planet ?? Ok now coming back to our monkey story.....can this intoxicated monkey "bite" ?? the answer is all - YES. Similarly irrespective of Sun state ( in this particular case it has become too much "ziddi" - hindi term for rigidness ) and hence combustion does need to be considered. with regards, sreeram srinivas _____ [] On Behalf Of jaswinder Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:58 PM Re: rashi or bhava that's ok but what if rahu is also with debilited sun in that house combusting another planet. is it so that rahu is making eclips to sun. in that condition the sun has two problems. one is debilited and another is eclipsed. that what will happend to the combust planet. can debilited or eclipsed sun has power to combust that planet? i think debilited sun can combust some plant but eclipsed cannot because at that time the sun is totally out of its energy. is it so that in that condition we can't say that, that planet is not combust at all. @ <%40> , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > A debilitated planet spoils the house where it is placed. > > A combust planet spoils the attributes of the house HE OWNS !! > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > > thanks .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=9699862/grpspId=1705082690/msgId =36741/stime=1161858597/nc1=3848644/nc2=3848571/nc3=3848585> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 But Sreeram ji, What if in the same chart the lord of 9th (and some say 10th represents father) is extremely benefic and strong? What about those that utilize the 8 planet charakarakas and pitrikaraka is strong and benefic as well? Should we consider that? RR , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > Ok let us analyze it with an example......first it is a monkey, further it > also drank to the brim....!! what is the current state of the monkey ??? It > is anybody's guess. Similarly, Sun is debilitated is first negative, It is > with Rahu is second negative, all this indicate.......( in absence of the > horoscope ) let me predict that the native's father has is a fallen moral > character. > The other issue is whether this Sun has capacity to combust other planet ?? > Ok now coming back to our monkey story.....can this intoxicated monkey > "bite" ?? the answer is all - YES. Similarly irrespective of Sun state ( > in this particular case it has become too much "ziddi" - hindi term for > rigidness ) and hence combustion does need to be considered. > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > > > _____ > > > [] On Behalf Of jaswinder > Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:58 PM > > Re: rashi or bhava > > > > > that's ok but what if rahu is also with debilited sun in that house > combusting another planet. is it so that rahu is making eclips to sun. > in that condition the sun has two problems. one is debilited and > another is eclipsed. that what will happend to the combust planet. > can debilited or eclipsed sun has power to combust that planet? i > think debilited sun can combust some plant but eclipsed cannot > because at that time the sun is totally out of its energy. is it so > that in that condition we can't say that, that planet is not combust > at all. > > @ <%40> > , "sreeram srinivas" > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > A debilitated planet spoils the house where it is placed. > > > > A combust planet spoils the attributes of the house HE OWNS !! > > > > with regards, > > sreeram srinivas > > > > thanks > > . > > <http://geo./serv? s=97359714/grpId=9699862/grpspId=1705082690/msgId > =36741/stime=1161858597/nc1=3848644/nc2=3848571/nc3=3848585> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I have clearly mentioned that any qualified astro analysis should be made as per the seven step method....Planets, House, Rasi, Planet + House, Planet + Rasi, House + Rasi, Planet + House + Rasi. Then also the natural karaka + concerned divisional chart.....that totals to NINE steps in general.....One has to make a judicious assessment of the planetary conditions to arrive at prediction.......further, based on individual qualities - ( respective individuals confidence level, subject maturity, thinking depth, &optimistic or pessimistic attitudes..) .the predictions may vary...... However, in the stated case of jaswinder zzepro where Sun + Rahu + another combust planet = irrespective of its house status.....I made a risky prediction ( can go wrong should it be a case of Strong 9H...etc..the way you have stated or possibilities envisaged by you )..... that her father had some serious issue in his life - broadly - a fallen character or might have be an ignomonious character or involved in vigilance cases or an adopted son or....in short some Undesirableness in him.....depending upon the degrees of respective planets.....possibility of death of native's father when the native was born ( father life is short lived ).....or father seriously afflicted by some chronic disease. ( trying to be objective to the extent possible - the words shoud be seen in proper perspective )......... Going further, the combust planet though not mentioned, must be Mercury. If it so, then the native is of ordinary or below average intelligence, may NOT have coherent views.....or analytical capacity..... I trust the jaswinder zzepro query was not so theoretical and the combination that He or She {( Jaswinder can be boy or girl's name ) }must have either had it in his / her horoscope or in somebody else horoscope..... Live it up to jaswinder zzepro to confirm this statement or prediction of mine on her father...... with regards, sreeram srinivas _____ [] On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:01 AM Re: RE:rashi or bhava But Sreeram ji, What if in the same chart the lord of 9th (and some say 10th represents father) is extremely benefic and strong? What about those that utilize the 8 planet charakarakas and pitrikaraka is strong and benefic as well? Should we consider that? RR @ <%40> , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > Ok let us analyze it with an example......first it is a monkey, further it > also drank to the brim....!! what is the current state of the monkey ??? It > is anybody's guess. Similarly, Sun is debilitated is first negative, It is > with Rahu is second negative, all this indicate.......( in absence of the > horoscope ) let me predict that the native's father has is a fallen moral > character. > The other issue is whether this Sun has capacity to combust other planet ?? > Ok now coming back to our monkey story.....can this intoxicated monkey > "bite" ?? the answer is all - YES. Similarly irrespective of Sun state ( > in this particular case it has become too much "ziddi" - hindi term for > rigidness ) and hence combustion does need to be considered. > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=9699862/grpspId=1705082690/msgId =36788/stime=1161988283/nc1=3848570/nc2=3848583/nc3=3848640> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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