naastrology Mercury and Sun in 7th House

October 20, 2006

Dear Kishoreji,

Actually This is a good attempt on your part to take up study of

roles of Mercury and Sun in real life charts, if the charts You get

are accompanied with actual happennings in the natives life with

regards to marriage (2 Marriages).

I have a request to make to You, please check the Sublords of

the 7th Cusp (Placidus using KrishnaMurthy Ayanamsha)in all cases

where You find 2 marriages ,and check how many times does Mercury

figure in, by the way of being Nakshatra Lord,Sublord

or placed in a dual Sign.

Please also check the 5th Cusp and the 5th Sublord in all cases

of twin births.

Also please check the 4th Cusp in all cases of abortions and does

Ketu figure as the strong significator in those cases.

I am sure this will give you many openings and You will come to a

very conclusive affirmation of what You are looking for.

As regards to Sun just being in 7th house and being good for a

marriage or bad, depends on so many other factors, like Lagna,

which house Lord it is,Same with Mercury.

One things goes without saying even in cases where the marriage may

fall to pieces,is that the Sun and Mercury by being in 7th house

itself irreespective of its Lordship or Exalted/Debilation/Own House

Malefic/Benefic position, still vouches that the spouse one

will get,will be very much Royal-aristocratic-commanding-influential

and domineering in personality traits (Fair too if unaspected by

Darker Planets ), and alongwith Mercury would also make the above

traits supplemented with Intelligence, irrespective of combustion or

retrogression of Mercury. Of course the Budhi-Aditya Yoga would be

there. Now these traits while in solitary look good, but when

combined to form a relationship with another human being in this case

with a husband or wife as the case may be, also produce the duality

effects, to create disturbances in married life naturally, as the

spouse denoted by the 7th would try to control,dominate,

command,be one up,on the other betterhalf, thus making way for

breakdown of relationships, which in India according to social

structure and dogmas here, may not actually create divorce but make

the married life torturous and a hell to endure, but in foreign

countries where the system is not so, it would pave way

immediately for a divorce.

So Kishoreji, while checking your charts,making study and conclsuive

reports, also please keep this factor in mind.

Less participation from members may not be because the cause is not

proper,it may also be because we alrteady have so much data,

information in hundreds of books and thousands of charts have already

been analysed in those books,so in fact people are wanting to learn

how to apply those principles already existing, rather than spending

time on more researches.

So do not bother much about these things.You may continue what You

feel is right.At least you are on a path to finding answers for your

own set of questions.

regards,

Bhaskar.

/

, "kishore patnaik"

<kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> I am really happy having received tremendous response for this mail

> and I was sent 30 to 35 charts for analysis.

>

> However, I notice with regret that the Regulars and the Respected

> Seniors are consipicuous by their silence(except two or three

people)

> Obviously, I would have been much pleased if the Seniors have

> participated rigorously and guided in the debate.

>

> Whatever I am doing, I am doing for academic betterment in mind

with

> the clear and sole intention of larger interest of the Science at

> heart and these debates will take us further in our further

> understanding of the Vedic astrology and the Dictums seen by the

Vedic

> seers.

>

> I hope the Seniors will enlighten us with their valuable opinons on

> the subject and encourage such academic discussions.

>

> best regards,

>

> Kishore patnaik

> 98492 70729

> On 10/10/06, kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Mercury in the 7th House from Lagna is often touted as a

beneficial.

> > Saravali says it makes the native a learned man and beautiful and

> > obtains him a beautful and wealthy wife.

> >

> > However, Mridula choudhury even as describing Mercury in such a

> > position as extremely being beneficial to the chart in matters of

> > marriage, says such Mercury is often responsble for two marriages.

> >

> > This is so since Mercury owns dual signs as well being a jumpy

> > planet.mercury is famous for the duplicity and dilemma.

> >

> > In other words, Mercury is not so very beneficial as it meets the

first eye.

> >

> > On the other hand, Sun in 7th is seen as choosy and divisive and

said

> > to be leading to Divorce. That is , there is almost an unanimous

view

> > that the Sun in 7th is not a very conducive position for marriage,

> > even as some authors do not like to accept him as Malefic but

> > condescending him the status of Cruel planet.

> >

> > But, Sun is a very disciplined planet and has the capability of

> > influencing the entire chart into its own way.Thus, it denies the

> > native the chance of remarriage and often, gives only one marrige,

> > making the same somewhat dry and monotonous if not unhappy.

> >

> > In other words, sun too is not what it should be, as it meets the

first eye.

> >

> > In view of such background, I am looking into the charts where

the sun

> > or mercury or both, along with or without other planets , are

posited

> > in the 7th House.

> >

> > Hence, I request all to send me such charts, whether those of

> > celebrities or their friends etc, with a small note commeting on

their

> > family life.

> >

> > Hope I will recieve good replies from all of you,

> >

> > best regards,

> >

> > Kishore patnaik

> >

>

October 20, 2006

Dear Kishoreji,

Also suggesting You to please note in your studies of the chart You

take up where Dual marriages have taken place,if the 7th House is

occupied by any planets (If you Take Equal House system),then 'those

planets are positioned where in the 30 Degrees Room, whether at the

starting of the House division or the end or the middle. This should

help You and us all in concluding the essence of your efforts.

For example Mars in 7th house if you also note with a person with

double marriage then that Mars is where exactly near the demarcation

of the 7th then it may prove less strong in creating divorce for the

first marriage but if in center of the house say +_ 5degrees from the

centre of the house,then it may prove to be a strong contender for

having thrown the first marriage to the wall. Same with Sun too. Are

these not the most dreaded planets in 7th for creating divorce or

divorce like conditions ?

Though if these pacified also become Mangal Karya Karakas for any

person in his life. I have seen few ladies who do vratas on Tuesday

for last 2-3 decades and have been able to shove away many grave

problems in their marriage whenever these problems arrived. These

Ladies who have been fasting on Tuesday when the Day Lord Mars

rules ,have been also instrumental in keeping their wayward husbands

in line plus so many other advantages I have personally seen with

strong Mars or weak but pacified Mars.

The Sun too, though it may cause denials in marriage relationships

and disturbances due to EGO factors, also if pacified makes the

spouse worthy of admiration in time to come from the own husband/wife

who may be temporarily facing adjustment problems.

Its all the question of a Benefic Sun or Malefic Sun, though by

itself no Planet can be considered as Bad, since they are all

manifestations of the supreme power and consciousness pervading all

around us and in the Universe. But they have been allotted roles to

play which they do so dutifully.

The Malefic Sun may produce in the 7th house a person with royalty but

also a person with pride, arrogance, narcissicm, who wants attention

all the time,

but if pacified or already Benefic then again Royal but ,without

the above minus qualities and plus would be more kind,loving,and

considerate towards other like a humble nobleman.

Same with otther planets.

So actually when the malefic indications start appearing in the

couples life, its better to temporarily part ways with each others

knowledge, for few months and then come back again after this gap to

a better understanding and missing of wach other which would

create a loving re-union. Instead if the couple carries on with the

negative impacts on their life, due to human weaknesses and not a

single of them ready to bow,or calm down or remain subordinate,

then its a show of Clash of the Titans, only for the audience

(Society) to enjoy.

I also know and recently met a very mature couple who said that they

were willing to stay in two rooms in the same house, which was the

best solution I too felt for the time being for them,instead of

drifting apart. Because ultimately familiarity

breeds contempt.Is it not ?

regards,

Bhaskar.

/

jyotish-vidya, "kishore patnaik"

<kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> I take this opportunity to thank all the people who have sent me the

> charts and contributed thier valuable opinions.

>

> I hope I can comeback shortly on the issue.

>

> best regards,

>

> Kishore patnaik

>

> On 10/20/06, kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

> > Dear all,

> >

> > I am really happy having received tremendous response for this

mail

> > and I was sent 30 to 35 charts for analysis.

> >

> > However, I notice with regret that the Regulars and the Respected

> > Seniors are consipicuous by their silence(except two or three

people)

> > Obviously, I would have been much pleased if the Seniors have

> > participated rigorously and guided in the debate.

> >

> > Whatever I am doing, I am doing for academic betterment in mind

with

> > the clear and sole intention of larger interest of the Science at

> > heart and these debates will take us further in our further

> > understanding of the Vedic astrology and the Dictums seen by the

Vedic

> > seers.

> >

> > I hope the Seniors will enlighten us with their valuable opinons

on

> > the subject and encourage such academic discussions.

> >

> > best regards,

> >

> > Kishore patnaik

> > 98492 70729

> > On 10/10/06, kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Mercury in the 7th House from Lagna is often touted as a

beneficial.

> > > Saravali says it makes the native a learned man and beautiful

and

> > > obtains him a beautful and wealthy wife.

> > >

> > > However, Mridula choudhury even as describing Mercury in such a

> > > position as extremely being beneficial to the chart in matters

of

> > > marriage, says such Mercury is often responsble for two

marriages.

> > >

> > > This is so since Mercury owns dual signs as well being a jumpy

> > > planet.mercury is famous for the duplicity and dilemma.

> > >

> > > In other words, Mercury is not so very beneficial as it meets

the first

> > eye.

> > >

> > > On the other hand, Sun in 7th is seen as choosy and divisive

and said

> > > to be leading to Divorce. That is , there is almost an

unanimous view

> > > that the Sun in 7th is not a very conducive position for

marriage,

> > > even as some authors do not like to accept him as Malefic but

> > > condescending him the status of Cruel planet.

> > >

> > > But, Sun is a very disciplined planet and has the capability of

> > > influencing the entire chart into its own way.Thus, it denies

the

> > > native the chance of remarriage and often, gives only one

marrige,

> > > making the same somewhat dry and monotonous if not unhappy.

> > >

> > > In other words, sun too is not what it should be, as it meets

the first

> > eye.

> > >

> > > In view of such background, I am looking into the charts where

the sun

> > > or mercury or both, along with or without other planets , are

posited

> > > in the 7th House.

> > >

> > > Hence, I request all to send me such charts, whether those of

> > > celebrities or their friends etc, with a small note commeting

on their

> > > family life.

> > >

> > > Hope I will recieve good replies from all of you,

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2006