Clarification Needed on particular data

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Dear Astrolger:

 

Namastae. I would appreciate if you could clarify the following.

 

In a particular chart following are observed.

 

1) Definition of temporary enemies seem to be as follows: Planets in

House 1(conjunction), house 7(opp), houses - 5, 6,8,9 from any

planet become its enemies. In a chart, if in House 5, Moon and Saturn

(Asc lord) are in Conjunction. Does this imply they are temporary

enemies?

 

2) Benefics for this chart are Saturn, Venus and Mercury (Lords of

Trine). However, Mercury is in Combustion with Sun in 6th house. Can

I conclude that the effects of the benefic Mercury will be very very

less for this native?

 

3) When I attempted to determine who are the temporary friends and

temporary enemies, except for Sat and Moon conjunction (as

mentiooned in (1) above), no other enemies for any planet are

present. I am surprised by this pattern. Who are the malefics then?

I determined this by following the definitions of temporary friends

and temp enemies and using the six-fold relationship as mentioned in

any astrology book.

 

4) Also, in this chart, the 4th aspect of Mars is on Rahu, as per

Rasi chart. However, when I exactly computed the angular distance

between them, they do not form a quadrant relationship. The distance

comes to 75 deg 72' only. Some of BV Raman's examples conclusively

argue that there is no quadrant realtionship if the actual distance

is outside the range from 82 deg to 98 deg (8 deg tolerance). So,

can I safely conclude that there is no 4th aspect of Mars on Rahu?

 

5a) In general, for any chart, is it true that Lords of Trines are

always benefics regardless of their position (say, even if they are

in 6/8/12th houses)? (5b) Also,can we say that they do good even if

they are associated with malefics in a house?

 

Your answers to your queries would clarify my understanding ato a

large extent. I look forward to hearing your reply. Thank you.

 

Regards

Bharadwaj

[Guest guest]

Dear Bharadwaj ji,

 

I have never considered temporary/temporal/takalik sambandha by

itself and have only used the combined, 5 level consideration (Ati

shatru to atimitra). So for me it would be of great interest to

follow this discussion thread. Thanks for posting it.

 

While exact aspects (degreewise) sound logical, I am not sure if the

drishtis really work the same way as western astrologers

conceptualize them (orbs). Then again, in the sripati bala system,

the degrees are indeed considered when calculating drigbala.

 

On the other hand when considering rashi drishtis, the entire rashi

zone, it seems has a connection/relationship with the other rashi

which would indicate that the degrees need not be exact. For instance

mars in cancer and moon in scorpio are connected by rashi drishti,

even though they may not be aspecting each other by griha drishti.

 

Again, my apologies if I am not making sense or helping you out with

your query. I am sure someone else who has experience in this area

will help you out, eventually.

 

RR

 

 

, "Bharadwaj"

<birdie30467 wrote:

>

> Dear Astrolger:

>

> Namastae. I would appreciate if you could clarify the following.

>

> In a particular chart following are observed.

>

> 1) Definition of temporary enemies seem to be as follows: Planets in

> House 1(conjunction), house 7(opp), houses - 5, 6,8,9 from any

> planet become its enemies. In a chart, if in House 5, Moon and

Saturn

> (Asc lord) are in Conjunction. Does this imply they are temporary

> enemies?

>

> 2) Benefics for this chart are Saturn, Venus and Mercury (Lords of

> Trine). However, Mercury is in Combustion with Sun in 6th house. Can

> I conclude that the effects of the benefic Mercury will be very very

> less for this native?

>

> 3) When I attempted to determine who are the temporary friends and

> temporary enemies, except for Sat and Moon conjunction (as

> mentiooned in (1) above), no other enemies for any planet are

> present. I am surprised by this pattern. Who are the malefics then?

> I determined this by following the definitions of temporary friends

> and temp enemies and using the six-fold relationship as mentioned in

> any astrology book.

>

> 4) Also, in this chart, the 4th aspect of Mars is on Rahu, as per

> Rasi chart. However, when I exactly computed the angular distance

> between them, they do not form a quadrant relationship. The distance

> comes to 75 deg 72' only. Some of BV Raman's examples conclusively

> argue that there is no quadrant realtionship if the actual distance

> is outside the range from 82 deg to 98 deg (8 deg tolerance). So,

> can I safely conclude that there is no 4th aspect of Mars on Rahu?

>

> 5a) In general, for any chart, is it true that Lords of Trines are

> always benefics regardless of their position (say, even if they are

> in 6/8/12th houses)? (5b) Also,can we say that they do good even if

> they are associated with malefics in a house?

>

> Your answers to your queries would clarify my understanding ato a

> large extent. I look forward to hearing your reply. Thank you.

>

> Regards

> Bharadwaj

>