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anuj,

U HAVE POSTED THE SAME STUFF EARLIER TOO. and is that the only repl u got anytime after Jul 06 u will be better off sure others have replied as well I remember to have also. as I remember the story 18 yrs... closed.... the TRAUMA... etc.

it may require changing ur adding new skill sets to make u more employable giveuself more chances.

 

depends on how u say the readings u got will cover it again nio problem..

 

 

 

ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht > wrote: RESPECTED ALL GURU JI

>

> KINDLY HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM:

>

> I WAS WORKING IN AN ORGANISATION FOR A LAST 18 YRS. AND THE

> ORGANISATION HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW. I AM UNDER THE TRAUMA FOR THE UN

> EMPLOYMENT. I AM JOBLESS SINCE MARCH'03.

>

> I AM TRYING VERY HARD TO SEARCH ANOTHER SATISFIED JOB, BUT I COULD

> NOT GET ANY SUCCESS SO FAR. BUT FROM 20/04/2006 I HAVE GOT ONE LOW

> PAID SERVICE OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT IS NOT UP-TO THE MARK OF MY MENTAL

> SATISFACTION AS WELL MONETARY.

>

> PLEASE TELL ME

>

> - WHEN WILL I GET THE SATISFIED JOB

>

> -WHAT WILL BE MY FUTURE

>

> - I AM VERY MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MY ECONOMICAL/ SOCIAL STATUS.

>

> - IS THERE ANY KAL SARP YOGA EXIST IN MY KUNDLY.

>

> I AM GIVING MY DATA AS UNDER:

>

> NAME: ANUJ BHATIA

>

> DOB: 15/1/1962

>

> BIRTH TIME: 23.30

>

> BIRTH PLACE: MATHURA (UTTAR PRADESH)

>

> -SINCE 3RD SEPT03 I HAD WEAR PANNA IN GOLD.

>

> REGARDS.

>

> ANUJ BHATIA

>

> PS: SOME ONE HAS TOLD ME THAT MY GOOD TIME WILL STARTS FROM WILL STARTS

> FROM JULY'06, BUT THAT FOR-CAST DIDN'T COME TRUE.

>KEN DRUM YOGA IS EXIST ON THIS HOROSCOPE? IT THIS THE REFLECTION OF

THIS.

NOW MY FAITH IN ASTROLOGY IS SHAKEN BECAUSE EVERY TIME EVERY PUNDIT GIVES THEIR THOUGHT BUT THAT NEVER COMES TRUE.

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It is sad that he keeps posting again and again!

 

What answer are you looking for really, dear Anuj Bhatia ji?

 

Please explain!

 

Ranjan

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> anuj,

> U HAVE POSTED THE SAME STUFF EARLIER TOO. and is that the only repl

u got anytime after Jul 06 u will be better off sure others have

replied as well I remember to have also. as I remember the story 18

yrs... closed.... the TRAUMA... etc.

> it may require changing ur adding new skill sets to make u more

employable giveuself more chances.

>

> depends on how u say the readings u got will cover it again nio

problem..

>

>

>

> ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht wrote:

RESPECTED ALL GURU JI

> >

> > KINDLY HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM:

> >

> > I WAS WORKING IN AN ORGANISATION FOR A LAST 18 YRS. AND THE

> > ORGANISATION HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW. I AM UNDER THE TRAUMA FOR THE

UN

> > EMPLOYMENT. I AM JOBLESS SINCE MARCH'03.

> >

> > I AM TRYING VERY HARD TO SEARCH ANOTHER SATISFIED JOB, BUT I

COULD

> > NOT GET ANY SUCCESS SO FAR. BUT FROM 20/04/2006 I HAVE GOT ONE

LOW

> > PAID SERVICE OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT IS NOT UP-TO THE MARK OF MY

MENTAL

> > SATISFACTION AS WELL MONETARY.

> >

> > PLEASE TELL ME

> >

> > - WHEN WILL I GET THE SATISFIED JOB

> >

> > -WHAT WILL BE MY FUTURE

> >

> > - I AM VERY MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MY ECONOMICAL/ SOCIAL STATUS.

> >

> > - IS THERE ANY KAL SARP YOGA EXIST IN MY KUNDLY.

> >

> > I AM GIVING MY DATA AS UNDER:

> >

> > NAME: ANUJ BHATIA

> >

> > DOB: 15/1/1962

> >

> > BIRTH TIME: 23.30

> >

> > BIRTH PLACE: MATHURA (UTTAR PRADESH)

> >

> > -SINCE 3RD SEPT03 I HAD WEAR PANNA IN GOLD.

> >

> > REGARDS.

> >

> > ANUJ BHATIA

> >

> > PS: SOME ONE HAS TOLD ME THAT MY GOOD TIME WILL STARTS FROM

WILL STARTS

> > FROM JULY'06, BUT THAT FOR-CAST DIDN'T COME TRUE.

> >KEN DRUM YOGA IS EXIST ON THIS HOROSCOPE? IT THIS THE REFLECTION

OF

> THIS.

> NOW MY FAITH IN ASTROLOGY IS SHAKEN BECAUSE EVERY TIME EVERY

PUNDIT GIVES THEIR THOUGHT BUT THAT NEVER COMES TRUE.

>

>

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IF YOU PEOPLE CAN'T GIVE THE DIRECTIONS, U SHOULD NOT BE MAKE OTHER ON THE LAUGHING POSITION.

YES IT IS TRUE I AM WRITING AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THIS FORUM TO GET SOME SOLUTION TO THE SOME EXTENT BUT UNFORTUNETLY I GOT THE ANSWER OF NOT TRUTH.

NOW U R ASKING WHAT ANSWER ARE YOU LOOKING FOR REALLY .............

IF YOU CAN'T GIVE THE SOLUTION ON TRUTH , YOU SHOULD NOT BE PASSES MIMICRY ON THAT.

YOUR CALIM ABOUT THE ASTROLOGY IS TOTALLY BASE LESS.

Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

It is sad that he keeps posting again and again!

 

What answer are you looking for really, dear Anuj Bhatia ji?

 

Please explain!

 

Ranjan

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> anuj,

> U HAVE POSTED THE SAME STUFF EARLIER TOO. and is that the only repl

u got anytime after Jul 06 u will be better off sure others have

replied as well I remember to have also. as I remember the story 18

yrs... closed.... the TRAUMA... etc.

> it may require changing ur adding new skill sets to make u more

employable giveuself more chances.

>

> depends on how u say the readings u got will cover it again nio

problem..

>

>

>

> ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht wrote:

RESPECTED ALL GURU JI

> >

> > KINDLY HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM:

> >

> > I WAS WORKING IN AN ORGANISATION FOR A LAST 18 YRS. AND THE

> > ORGANISATION HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW. I AM UNDER THE TRAUMA FOR THE

UN

> > EMPLOYMENT. I AM JOBLESS SINCE MARCH'03.

> >

> > I AM TRYING VERY HARD TO SEARCH ANOTHER SATISFIED JOB, BUT I

COULD

> > NOT GET ANY SUCCESS SO FAR. BUT FROM 20/04/2006 I HAVE GOT ONE

LOW

> > PAID SERVICE OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT IS NOT UP-TO THE MARK OF MY

MENTAL

> > SATISFACTION AS WELL MONETARY.

> >

> > PLEASE TELL ME

> >

> > - WHEN WILL I GET THE SATISFIED JOB

> >

> > -WHAT WILL BE MY FUTURE

> >

> > - I AM VERY MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MY ECONOMICAL/ SOCIAL STATUS.

> >

> > - IS THERE ANY KAL SARP YOGA EXIST IN MY KUNDLY.

> >

> > I AM GIVING MY DATA AS UNDER:

> >

> > NAME: ANUJ BHATIA

> >

> > DOB: 15/1/1962

> >

> > BIRTH TIME: 23.30

> >

> > BIRTH PLACE: MATHURA (UTTAR PRADESH)

> >

> > -SINCE 3RD SEPT03 I HAD WEAR PANNA IN GOLD.

> >

> > REGARDS.

> >

> > ANUJ BHATIA

> >

> > PS: SOME ONE HAS TOLD ME THAT MY GOOD TIME WILL STARTS FROM

WILL STARTS

> > FROM JULY'06, BUT THAT FOR-CAST DIDN'T COME TRUE.

> >KEN DRUM YOGA IS EXIST ON THIS HOROSCOPE? IT THIS THE REFLECTION

OF

> THIS.

> NOW MY FAITH IN ASTROLOGY IS SHAKEN BECAUSE EVERY TIME EVERY

PUNDIT GIVES THEIR THOUGHT BUT THAT NEVER COMES TRUE.

>

>

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Hello Mr. Bhatia,

 

You are likely to get a better job after November, 2006.

 

Vinkum

 

, ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht

wrote:

>

> IF YOU PEOPLE CAN'T GIVE THE DIRECTIONS, U SHOULD NOT BE MAKE

OTHER ON THE LAUGHING POSITION.

> YES IT IS TRUE I AM WRITING AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THIS FORUM TO GET

SOME SOLUTION TO THE SOME EXTENT BUT UNFORTUNETLY I GOT THE ANSWER

OF NOT TRUTH.

> NOW U R ASKING WHAT ANSWER ARE YOU LOOKING FOR

REALLY .............

> IF YOU CAN'T GIVE THE SOLUTION ON TRUTH , YOU SHOULD NOT BE PASSES

MIMICRY ON THAT.

> YOUR CALIM ABOUT THE ASTROLOGY IS TOTALLY BASE LESS.

>

> Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

> It is sad that he keeps posting again and again!

>

> What answer are you looking for really, dear Anuj Bhatia ji?

>

> Please explain!

>

> Ranjan

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > anuj,

> > U HAVE POSTED THE SAME STUFF EARLIER TOO. and is that the only

repl

> u got anytime after Jul 06 u will be better off sure others have

> replied as well I remember to have also. as I remember the story

18

> yrs... closed.... the TRAUMA... etc.

> > it may require changing ur adding new skill sets to make u more

> employable giveuself more chances.

> >

> > depends on how u say the readings u got will cover it again nio

> problem..

> >

> >

> >

> > ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht@> wrote:

> RESPECTED ALL GURU JI

> > >

> > > KINDLY HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM:

> > >

> > > I WAS WORKING IN AN ORGANISATION FOR A LAST 18 YRS. AND THE

> > > ORGANISATION HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW. I AM UNDER THE TRAUMA FOR

THE

> UN

> > > EMPLOYMENT. I AM JOBLESS SINCE MARCH'03.

> > >

> > > I AM TRYING VERY HARD TO SEARCH ANOTHER SATISFIED JOB, BUT I

> COULD

> > > NOT GET ANY SUCCESS SO FAR. BUT FROM 20/04/2006 I HAVE GOT ONE

> LOW

> > > PAID SERVICE OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT IS NOT UP-TO THE MARK OF MY

> MENTAL

> > > SATISFACTION AS WELL MONETARY.

> > >

> > > PLEASE TELL ME

> > >

> > > - WHEN WILL I GET THE SATISFIED JOB

> > >

> > > -WHAT WILL BE MY FUTURE

> > >

> > > - I AM VERY MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MY ECONOMICAL/ SOCIAL STATUS.

> > >

> > > - IS THERE ANY KAL SARP YOGA EXIST IN MY KUNDLY.

> > >

> > > I AM GIVING MY DATA AS UNDER:

> > >

> > > NAME: ANUJ BHATIA

> > >

> > > DOB: 15/1/1962

> > >

> > > BIRTH TIME: 23.30

> > >

> > > BIRTH PLACE: MATHURA (UTTAR PRADESH)

> > >

> > > -SINCE 3RD SEPT03 I HAD WEAR PANNA IN GOLD.

> > >

> > > REGARDS.

> > >

> > > ANUJ BHATIA

> > >

> > > PS: SOME ONE HAS TOLD ME THAT MY GOOD TIME WILL STARTS FROM

> WILL STARTS

> > > FROM JULY'06, BUT THAT FOR-CAST DIDN'T COME TRUE.

> > >KEN DRUM YOGA IS EXIST ON THIS HOROSCOPE? IT THIS THE

REFLECTION

> OF

> > THIS.

> > NOW MY FAITH IN ASTROLOGY IS SHAKEN BECAUSE EVERY TIME EVERY

> PUNDIT GIVES THEIR THOUGHT BUT THAT NEVER COMES TRUE.

> >

> >

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I am sorry Anuj that you felt that way. I hope you will find what you

are seeking.

 

Take care,

 

RR

 

, ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht

wrote:

>

> IF YOU PEOPLE CAN'T GIVE THE DIRECTIONS, U SHOULD NOT BE MAKE

OTHER ON THE LAUGHING POSITION.

> YES IT IS TRUE I AM WRITING AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THIS FORUM TO GET

SOME SOLUTION TO THE SOME EXTENT BUT UNFORTUNETLY I GOT THE ANSWER

OF NOT TRUTH.

> NOW U R ASKING WHAT ANSWER ARE YOU LOOKING FOR

REALLY .............

> IF YOU CAN'T GIVE THE SOLUTION ON TRUTH , YOU SHOULD NOT BE PASSES

MIMICRY ON THAT.

> YOUR CALIM ABOUT THE ASTROLOGY IS TOTALLY BASE LESS.

>

> Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote:

> It is sad that he keeps posting again and again!

>

> What answer are you looking for really, dear Anuj Bhatia ji?

>

> Please explain!

>

> Ranjan

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > anuj,

> > U HAVE POSTED THE SAME STUFF EARLIER TOO. and is that the only

repl

> u got anytime after Jul 06 u will be better off sure others have

> replied as well I remember to have also. as I remember the story 18

> yrs... closed.... the TRAUMA... etc.

> > it may require changing ur adding new skill sets to make u more

> employable giveuself more chances.

> >

> > depends on how u say the readings u got will cover it again nio

> problem..

> >

> >

> >

> > ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht@> wrote:

> RESPECTED ALL GURU JI

> > >

> > > KINDLY HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM:

> > >

> > > I WAS WORKING IN AN ORGANISATION FOR A LAST 18 YRS. AND THE

> > > ORGANISATION HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW. I AM UNDER THE TRAUMA FOR THE

> UN

> > > EMPLOYMENT. I AM JOBLESS SINCE MARCH'03.

> > >

> > > I AM TRYING VERY HARD TO SEARCH ANOTHER SATISFIED JOB, BUT I

> COULD

> > > NOT GET ANY SUCCESS SO FAR. BUT FROM 20/04/2006 I HAVE GOT ONE

> LOW

> > > PAID SERVICE OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT IS NOT UP-TO THE MARK OF MY

> MENTAL

> > > SATISFACTION AS WELL MONETARY.

> > >

> > > PLEASE TELL ME

> > >

> > > - WHEN WILL I GET THE SATISFIED JOB

> > >

> > > -WHAT WILL BE MY FUTURE

> > >

> > > - I AM VERY MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MY ECONOMICAL/ SOCIAL STATUS.

> > >

> > > - IS THERE ANY KAL SARP YOGA EXIST IN MY KUNDLY.

> > >

> > > I AM GIVING MY DATA AS UNDER:

> > >

> > > NAME: ANUJ BHATIA

> > >

> > > DOB: 15/1/1962

> > >

> > > BIRTH TIME: 23.30

> > >

> > > BIRTH PLACE: MATHURA (UTTAR PRADESH)

> > >

> > > -SINCE 3RD SEPT03 I HAD WEAR PANNA IN GOLD.

> > >

> > > REGARDS.

> > >

> > > ANUJ BHATIA

> > >

> > > PS: SOME ONE HAS TOLD ME THAT MY GOOD TIME WILL STARTS FROM

> WILL STARTS

> > > FROM JULY'06, BUT THAT FOR-CAST DIDN'T COME TRUE.

> > >KEN DRUM YOGA IS EXIST ON THIS HOROSCOPE? IT THIS THE REFLECTION

> OF

> > THIS.

> > NOW MY FAITH IN ASTROLOGY IS SHAKEN BECAUSE EVERY TIME EVERY

> PUNDIT GIVES THEIR THOUGHT BUT THAT NEVER COMES TRUE.

> >

> >

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Well I am forced to interrupt all these conversations...First of all

Mr Anuj comes with request for all Gurus (and that too im capital

letters) and then gives angry replies in capital letters again, when

there is no offense meant by RR ji and other astrologers. That's

another surprize here(while RR ji is very polite here)...May be MR

ANUJ is expecting some magical predictions here! Infact he never

answered to my queries at all..

(/message/36435)...I

even offered to investigate his chart further... infact his given

birth data does not sychronize with the fact that he had same stable

job for 18 years!

 

 

If he was in same organization for 18 years then what is the

hesitation in giving answers to my questions?..afterall we all are

just trying to help him only and have nothing to gain here. His

chart shows several job changes which may have happened within same

organization or rather say change of his role and position in same

organization during various antardasas..he has not given any dates

for such investigations, so his birth data cannot be verified.The

Ashtakavarga system and Vedic astrology techniques cannot go wrong(

i have verfied in several charts myself)..so its simple that either

his birth data is not correct or he is not telling the complete story

(job change/role change dates etc)! Even myself have gone thru

several job changes after a long successful span of more than 15

years and have been working on various types of job in last few

years...i wish i could predict a better future for myself or fix my

own horoscope! , but unfortunately astrology does not change one's

future and it can only give major hints about the shape of things to

come..so where is this claims that he is talking about? Who has made

any false claims here?

 

 

 

I find Mr ANUJ's attitude quite offensive considering the fact that

he needs help and so he should be polite in this forum. I myself

contacted few well known astrologers and even they could not solve

my own problems..but they presented several solutions..some work and

some do not work...But I do not blame them since they tried their

level best and in the process, I learned several things myself. So I

just use this knowledge to help those who appear to be very genuine

and who appear to be even more unfortunate than myself! So in

nutshell, we all have to face the consequences of our actions and

face our own individual futures! So if one decides that he/she is

going to believe in astrology and seek solutions, then its their

decision...if one does NOT believe then also its their decision and

I respect both the decisions...who are we to restore one's faith in

astrology(even the heading is offensive)! Its ultimately one's Karma

only which can take one to future destinations..astrology just make

the journey more informative only..Thanks..Rajesh Kumaria.

 

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> I am sorry Anuj that you felt that way. I hope you will find what

you

> are seeking.

>

> Take care,

>

> RR

>

> , ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht@>

> wrote:

> >

> > IF YOU PEOPLE CAN'T GIVE THE DIRECTIONS, U SHOULD NOT BE MAKE

> OTHER ON THE LAUGHING POSITION.

> > YES IT IS TRUE I AM WRITING AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THIS FORUM TO

GET

> SOME SOLUTION TO THE SOME EXTENT BUT UNFORTUNETLY I GOT THE

ANSWER

> OF NOT TRUTH.

> > NOW U R ASKING WHAT ANSWER ARE YOU LOOKING FOR

> REALLY .............

> > IF YOU CAN'T GIVE THE SOLUTION ON TRUTH , YOU SHOULD NOT BE

PASSES

> MIMICRY ON THAT.

> > YOUR CALIM ABOUT THE ASTROLOGY IS TOTALLY BASE LESS.

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > It is sad that he keeps posting again and again!

> >

> > What answer are you looking for really, dear Anuj Bhatia ji?

> >

> > Please explain!

> >

> > Ranjan

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > anuj,

> > > U HAVE POSTED THE SAME STUFF EARLIER TOO. and is that the only

> repl

> > u got anytime after Jul 06 u will be better off sure others have

> > replied as well I remember to have also. as I remember the story

18

> > yrs... closed.... the TRAUMA... etc.

> > > it may require changing ur adding new skill sets to make u

more

> > employable giveuself more chances.

> > >

> > > depends on how u say the readings u got will cover it again

nio

> > problem..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht@> wrote:

> > RESPECTED ALL GURU JI

> > > >

> > > > KINDLY HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM:

> > > >

> > > > I WAS WORKING IN AN ORGANISATION FOR A LAST 18 YRS. AND THE

> > > > ORGANISATION HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW. I AM UNDER THE TRAUMA FOR

THE

> > UN

> > > > EMPLOYMENT. I AM JOBLESS SINCE MARCH'03.

> > > >

> > > > I AM TRYING VERY HARD TO SEARCH ANOTHER SATISFIED JOB, BUT I

> > COULD

> > > > NOT GET ANY SUCCESS SO FAR. BUT FROM 20/04/2006 I HAVE GOT

ONE

> > LOW

> > > > PAID SERVICE OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT IS NOT UP-TO THE MARK OF

MY

> > MENTAL

> > > > SATISFACTION AS WELL MONETARY.

> > > >

> > > > PLEASE TELL ME

> > > >

> > > > - WHEN WILL I GET THE SATISFIED JOB

> > > >

> > > > -WHAT WILL BE MY FUTURE

> > > >

> > > > - I AM VERY MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MY ECONOMICAL/ SOCIAL STATUS.

> > > >

> > > > - IS THERE ANY KAL SARP YOGA EXIST IN MY KUNDLY.

> > > >

> > > > I AM GIVING MY DATA AS UNDER:

> > > >

> > > > NAME: ANUJ BHATIA

> > > >

> > > > DOB: 15/1/1962

> > > >

> > > > BIRTH TIME: 23.30

> > > >

> > > > BIRTH PLACE: MATHURA (UTTAR PRADESH)

> > > >

> > > > -SINCE 3RD SEPT03 I HAD WEAR PANNA IN GOLD.

> > > >

> > > > REGARDS.

> > > >

> > > > ANUJ BHATIA

> > > >

> > > > PS: SOME ONE HAS TOLD ME THAT MY GOOD TIME WILL STARTS FROM

> > WILL STARTS

> > > > FROM JULY'06, BUT THAT FOR-CAST DIDN'T COME TRUE.

> > > >KEN DRUM YOGA IS EXIST ON THIS HOROSCOPE? IT THIS THE

REFLECTION

> > OF

> > > THIS.

> > > NOW MY FAITH IN ASTROLOGY IS SHAKEN BECAUSE EVERY TIME EVERY

> > PUNDIT GIVES THEIR THOUGHT BUT THAT NEVER COMES TRUE.

> > >

> > >

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Dear Kumaria ji,

 

Your frustration and anger is justified, but sometimes people who

come in to ask readings are not in the best of their mental state and

may be suffering a lot of pain, anguish and uncertainty. I am not

saying that everyone is like that. Sometimes individuals come in here

to relax, after having had a bad day at work or a worse day simply

trying to find work -- or there could be diseases in self or family

or other worries. In nearly all cases expectations are heightened,

for whatever reasons: familial, personal, societal, medical,

chemical, and biochemical ... etc etc.

 

Back in early 1980s when writing a manual on jyotish (which has grown

into something else over the decades), when RR was a lot younger and

impatient I had written that astrologer must not try to be a all-in-

one parent/friend/priest/psychologist (particularly the latter

without training!) to a nativity, looking for a paid or free reading.

 

As hair grew whiter and sparse, these words were penned:

 

******************

>From "MY TWO CENTS chapter:

 

While each of us might be drawn to astrology for different reasons,

the ultimate aim is to tap into and understand the cosmic cycle of

this experiential journey of human experience. Perhaps some of us

would end up trying only to understand our own horoscopes or of near

ones, while others among us would extend their help externally in

trying to help a fellow-human being to understand themselves and

their personal journey better. There will be times when we would be

tempted to or forced to assume the role of counsellors. Understanding

our roles and boundaries is very important at that point. Sometimes

we will be approached by individuals who are genuinely tormented by

the rigours of time and need a bit of support and encouragement.

While being empathic, we must not cross the boundary of being an

astrologer and enter into that of being a soothesayer unless we are

trained or capable in that area. Those who approach us for seeking

astrological counselling must always be told of and reminded of our

boundaries. Regardless of their infectious but sometimes exaggerated

faith in astrology or us, we must spell out the findings just as we

see them while honestly making them aware of the uncertainties and

limitations of what we see or say, as best as is possible. There is

not pressure to feel that we need to turn a cartwheel or two simply

to please or the need to justify the reason for being for astrology

or of our interest in astrology (unless you are in the role of a

professional, paid astro-counsellor -- in which case you are not very

different from other similar professionals in having to demonstrate

your abilities and so on).

*********************

 

RR

 

, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000 wrote:

>

> Well I am forced to interrupt all these conversations...First of

all

> Mr Anuj comes with request for all Gurus (and that too im capital

> letters) and then gives angry replies in capital letters again,

when

> there is no offense meant by RR ji and other astrologers. That's

> another surprize here(while RR ji is very polite here)...May be MR

> ANUJ is expecting some magical predictions here! Infact he never

> answered to my queries at all..

> (/message/36435)...I

> even offered to investigate his chart further... infact his given

> birth data does not sychronize with the fact that he had same

stable

> job for 18 years!

>

>

> If he was in same organization for 18 years then what is the

> hesitation in giving answers to my questions?..afterall we all are

> just trying to help him only and have nothing to gain here. His

> chart shows several job changes which may have happened within same

> organization or rather say change of his role and position in same

> organization during various antardasas..he has not given any dates

> for such investigations, so his birth data cannot be verified.The

> Ashtakavarga system and Vedic astrology techniques cannot go wrong(

> i have verfied in several charts myself)..so its simple that either

> his birth data is not correct or he is not telling the complete

story

> (job change/role change dates etc)! Even myself have gone thru

> several job changes after a long successful span of more than 15

> years and have been working on various types of job in last few

> years...i wish i could predict a better future for myself or fix my

> own horoscope! , but unfortunately astrology does not change one's

> future and it can only give major hints about the shape of things

to

> come..so where is this claims that he is talking about? Who has

made

> any false claims here?

>

>

>

> I find Mr ANUJ's attitude quite offensive considering the fact that

> he needs help and so he should be polite in this forum. I myself

> contacted few well known astrologers and even they could not solve

> my own problems..but they presented several solutions..some work

and

> some do not work...But I do not blame them since they tried their

> level best and in the process, I learned several things myself. So

I

> just use this knowledge to help those who appear to be very genuine

> and who appear to be even more unfortunate than myself! So in

> nutshell, we all have to face the consequences of our actions and

> face our own individual futures! So if one decides that he/she is

> going to believe in astrology and seek solutions, then its their

> decision...if one does NOT believe then also its their decision and

> I respect both the decisions...who are we to restore one's faith in

> astrology(even the heading is offensive)! Its ultimately one's

Karma

> only which can take one to future destinations..astrology just make

> the journey more informative only..Thanks..Rajesh Kumaria.

>

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > I am sorry Anuj that you felt that way. I hope you will find what

> you

> > are seeking.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > IF YOU PEOPLE CAN'T GIVE THE DIRECTIONS, U SHOULD NOT BE MAKE

> > OTHER ON THE LAUGHING POSITION.

> > > YES IT IS TRUE I AM WRITING AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THIS FORUM TO

> GET

> > SOME SOLUTION TO THE SOME EXTENT BUT UNFORTUNETLY I GOT THE

> ANSWER

> > OF NOT TRUTH.

> > > NOW U R ASKING WHAT ANSWER ARE YOU LOOKING FOR

> > REALLY .............

> > > IF YOU CAN'T GIVE THE SOLUTION ON TRUTH , YOU SHOULD NOT BE

> PASSES

> > MIMICRY ON THAT.

> > > YOUR CALIM ABOUT THE ASTROLOGY IS TOTALLY BASE LESS.

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > It is sad that he keeps posting again and again!

> > >

> > > What answer are you looking for really, dear Anuj Bhatia ji?

> > >

> > > Please explain!

> > >

> > > Ranjan

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > anuj,

> > > > U HAVE POSTED THE SAME STUFF EARLIER TOO. and is that the

only

> > repl

> > > u got anytime after Jul 06 u will be better off sure others

have

> > > replied as well I remember to have also. as I remember the

story

> 18

> > > yrs... closed.... the TRAUMA... etc.

> > > > it may require changing ur adding new skill sets to make u

> more

> > > employable giveuself more chances.

> > > >

> > > > depends on how u say the readings u got will cover it again

> nio

> > > problem..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ANUJ BHATIA <anujbht@> wrote:

> > > RESPECTED ALL GURU JI

> > > > >

> > > > > KINDLY HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM:

> > > > >

> > > > > I WAS WORKING IN AN ORGANISATION FOR A LAST 18 YRS. AND THE

> > > > > ORGANISATION HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW. I AM UNDER THE TRAUMA FOR

> THE

> > > UN

> > > > > EMPLOYMENT. I AM JOBLESS SINCE MARCH'03.

> > > > >

> > > > > I AM TRYING VERY HARD TO SEARCH ANOTHER SATISFIED JOB, BUT

I

> > > COULD

> > > > > NOT GET ANY SUCCESS SO FAR. BUT FROM 20/04/2006 I HAVE GOT

> ONE

> > > LOW

> > > > > PAID SERVICE OPPORTUNITY BUT THAT IS NOT UP-TO THE MARK OF

> MY

> > > MENTAL

> > > > > SATISFACTION AS WELL MONETARY.

> > > > >

> > > > > PLEASE TELL ME

> > > > >

> > > > > - WHEN WILL I GET THE SATISFIED JOB

> > > > >

> > > > > -WHAT WILL BE MY FUTURE

> > > > >

> > > > > - I AM VERY MUCH WORRIED ABOUT MY ECONOMICAL/ SOCIAL STATUS.

> > > > >

> > > > > - IS THERE ANY KAL SARP YOGA EXIST IN MY KUNDLY.

> > > > >

> > > > > I AM GIVING MY DATA AS UNDER:

> > > > >

> > > > > NAME: ANUJ BHATIA

> > > > >

> > > > > DOB: 15/1/1962

> > > > >

> > > > > BIRTH TIME: 23.30

> > > > >

> > > > > BIRTH PLACE: MATHURA (UTTAR PRADESH)

> > > > >

> > > > > -SINCE 3RD SEPT03 I HAD WEAR PANNA IN GOLD.

> > > > >

> > > > > REGARDS.

> > > > >

> > > > > ANUJ BHATIA

> > > > >

> > > > > PS: SOME ONE HAS TOLD ME THAT MY GOOD TIME WILL STARTS FROM

> > > WILL STARTS

> > > > > FROM JULY'06, BUT THAT FOR-CAST DIDN'T COME TRUE.

> > > > >KEN DRUM YOGA IS EXIST ON THIS HOROSCOPE? IT THIS THE

> REFLECTION

> > > OF

> > > > THIS.

> > > > NOW MY FAITH IN ASTROLOGY IS SHAKEN BECAUSE EVERY TIME EVERY

> > > PUNDIT GIVES THEIR THOUGHT BUT THAT NEVER COMES TRUE.

> > > >

> > > >

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