Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Dear all, Mercury in the 7th House from Lagna is often touted as a beneficial. Saravali says it makes the native a learned man and beautiful and obtains him a beautful and wealthy wife. However, Mridula choudhury even as describing Mercury in such a position as extremely being beneficial to the chart in matters of marriage, says such Mercury is often responsble for two marriages. This is so since Mercury owns dual signs as well being a jumpy planet.mercury is famous for the duplicity and dilemma. In other words, Mercury is not so very beneficial as it meets the first eye. On the other hand, Sun in 7th is seen as choosy and divisive and said to be leading to Divorce. That is , there is almost an unanimous view that the Sun in 7th is not a very conducive position for marriage, even as some authors do not like to accept him as Malefic but condescending him the status of Cruel planet. But, Sun is a very disciplined planet and has the capability of influencing the entire chart into its own way.Thus, it denies the native the chance of remarriage and often, gives only one marrige, making the same somewhat dry and monotonous if not unhappy. In other words, sun too is not what it should be, as it meets the first eye. In view of such background, I am looking into the charts where the sun or mercury or both, along with or without other planets , are posited in the 7th House. Hence, I request all to send me such charts, whether those of celebrities or their friends etc, with a small note commeting on their family life. Hope I will recieve good replies from all of you, best regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Hi You will find the answer in the following group also: Vedic Astrology-Hyderabad regards, Kishroe patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi Dear Kishore, Thanks for your explanation. This is an interesting statement: "Maraka sthana is an important aberration in astrology," and this along with your example given. I have paid more attention to maraka sthana via health issues and it's valuable to hear your thoughts on this aspect of it. Along with what you've said, it's also interesting that Sun is depositor of Mars in his chart and that Mars is vargottam there. Also in Rasi Sun's exaltation is his 10H, and owns his 10H in Navamsa. What does 'Bhavartha ratnakara' mean? I haven't studied Narayana Dasas enough. It is interesting though to note that the only enemy to his lagnesh Moon is the 6th and 9th lord Jupiter closely conjoined with Moon in the house of public opinions ;-) And I'm not sure what he rode was a wave of popularity! ;-). Also fascinating to see that 9H is Pisces, and the Narayan dasa was Pisces - Scorpio. I like your thoughts here that to over ride difficulties, he needs to have a connection with Yoga karaka Mars. This is valuable/educational for me to see this use of Yoga karaka and in applying this to other charts. Thanks for your help and thoughts about this. Kindest regards, Patrice _____ Hi patrice, Thanks for the compliments. I have noted your observation. Maraka sthana is an important aberration in astrology. The other day I was talking with one of the members over phone when he has questioned me about George Bush. George Bush is having Sun in his Maraka sthana(12th)Yet , he had rided a wave of popularity to win the difficult elections in 2004. Most of the dasas such as vimsottari or 2/12dasa do not indicate any good for him at that time. He was quite perplexed by the chart. While I have not studied the chart,a lonely Sun in 12th sthana indicates good power and authority thanks to Bhavartha ratnakara. Moreover, for such things you need to look at Narayana dasa rather than Vimsottari. Hence, I asked him to look at N'dasa and asked him whether it is connected with Mars. To our surprise,the dasa that was goingon was indeed scorpion(I think pisces-scorpio)This is so, because George Bush is a cancerian and to ride over difficulties, he need to have a connection with Yoga karaka who is Mars. Hence, the reading. Hope this helps in understanding the Maraka sthanas. regards, Kishorepatnaik regards, kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Dear Patrice, Bhavartha Ratnakara is a treatise on astrology... You can purchase B.V. Raman's translation here if interested: http://acvastore.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=95&osCsid=b6a46af9f2799e11f3bd1bf27c86c5d1 Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Patrice Curry" <patricecurry (AT) adelphia (DOT) net> <jyotish-vidya> Friday, October 13, 2006 7:52 AM RE: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House Hi Dear Kishore, Thanks for your explanation. This is an interesting statement: "Maraka sthana is an important aberration in astrology," and this along with your example given. I have paid more attention to maraka sthana via health issues and it's valuable to hear your thoughts on this aspect of it. Along with what you've said, it's also interesting that Sun is depositor of Mars in his chart and that Mars is vargottam there. Also in Rasi Sun's exaltation is his 10H, and owns his 10H in Navamsa. What does 'Bhavartha ratnakara' mean? I haven't studied Narayana Dasas enough. It is interesting though to note that the only enemy to his lagnesh Moon is the 6th and 9th lord Jupiter closely conjoined with Moon in the house of public opinions ;-) And I'm not sure what he rode was a wave of popularity! ;-). Also fascinating to see that 9H is Pisces, and the Narayan dasa was Pisces - Scorpio. I like your thoughts here that to over ride difficulties, he needs to have a connection with Yoga karaka Mars. This is valuable/educational for me to see this use of Yoga karaka and in applying this to other charts. Thanks for your help and thoughts about this. Kindest regards, Patrice _____ Hi patrice, Thanks for the compliments. I have noted your observation. Maraka sthana is an important aberration in astrology. The other day I was talking with one of the members over phone when he has questioned me about George Bush. George Bush is having Sun in his Maraka sthana(12th)Yet , he had rided a wave of popularity to win the difficult elections in 2004. Most of the dasas such as vimsottari or 2/12dasa do not indicate any good for him at that time. He was quite perplexed by the chart. While I have not studied the chart,a lonely Sun in 12th sthana indicates good power and authority thanks to Bhavartha ratnakara. Moreover, for such things you need to look at Narayana dasa rather than Vimsottari. Hence, I asked him to look at N'dasa and asked him whether it is connected with Mars. To our surprise,the dasa that was goingon was indeed scorpion(I think pisces-scorpio)This is so, because George Bush is a cancerian and to ride over difficulties, he need to have a connection with Yoga karaka who is Mars. Hence, the reading. Hope this helps in understanding the Maraka sthanas. regards, Kishorepatnaik regards, kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 **NB: Please seek permission from the list owner (address below) before advertising any conferences, courses, websites or other groups. Failing to comply with this request WILL result in immediate loss of posting privilege.** It's the responsibility of members to familiarize themselves with the rules of JV (found on group welcome page). They're there for a reason and ARE enforced without exception! It doesn't take much to seek permission (which would probably be given unless there's a strong reason not to). Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09 > <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:53 PM Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House Hi You will find the answer in the following group also: xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx regards, Kishroe patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Dear Kishore and All, //I have only mentioned that the replies are found in my group also, as I am consolidating all the replies recived in various groups.// Having received the (above) explanation I'm satisfied that Kishore acted with better intentions than I gave him credit for. Apologies Kishore! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> <jyotish-vidya> Friday, October 13, 2006 6:19 PM Re: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House **NB: Please seek permission from the list owner (address below) before advertising any conferences, courses, websites or other groups. Failing to comply with this request WILL result in immediate loss of posting privilege.** It's the responsibility of members to familiarize themselves with the rules of JV (found on group welcome page). They're there for a reason and ARE enforced without exception! It doesn't take much to seek permission (which would probably be given unless there's a strong reason not to). Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09 > <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:53 PM Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House Hi You will find the answer in the following group also: Vedic Astrology-Hyderabad regards, Kishroe patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Hi, I guess we should get on with the normal business as usual...no hard feelings! if someone is interested, the misunderstanding has occured due to the fact that my rahu aspects the AL from a house of Venus - Mrs Wendy must be having Venus as her AK - and this is the time when Rahu is getting a little hyperactive, thanks to the fact that his shift of house is on cards Kishore patnaik On 10/16/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Kishore and All, > > //I have only mentioned that the replies are found in my group also, as I am > consolidating all the replies recived in various groups.// > > Having received the (above) explanation I'm satisfied that Kishore acted > with better intentions than I gave him credit for. Apologies Kishore! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> > <jyotish-vidya> > Friday, October 13, 2006 6:19 PM > Re: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House > > > **NB: Please seek permission from the list owner (address below) before > advertising any conferences, courses, websites or other groups. Failing to > comply with this request WILL result in immediate loss of posting > privilege.** > > It's the responsibility of members to familiarize themselves with the rules > of JV (found on group welcome page). They're there for a reason and ARE > enforced without exception! It doesn't take much to seek permission (which > would probably be given unless there's a strong reason not to). > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "kishore mohan" <kishorepatnaik09 > > <jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:53 PM > Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House > > > Hi > > You will find the answer in the following group also: > > Vedic Astrology-Hyderabad > > > regards, > > Kishroe patnaik > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Dear Kishore and All, A (very) quick note before I switch off and get some rest...past midnight here now. I think for my part the #one culprit is Mars pratyantar which commenced just a few days ago. Transit Mars, combust transit 8th lord Sun, certainly speaks of quick flare-ups, I would say...rash Mars acts in haste! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 > "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Cc: <jyotish-vidya> Monday, October 16, 2006 11:26 PM Re: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House Hi, I guess we should get on with the normal business as usual...no hard feelings! if someone is interested, the misunderstanding has occured due to the fact that my rahu aspects the AL from a house of Venus - Mrs Wendy must be having Venus as her AK - and this is the time when Rahu is getting a little hyperactive, thanks to the fact that his shift of house is on cards Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Hi, Please post your chart if you are interested. regards, Kishore patnaik On 10/16/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Kishore and All, > > A (very) quick note before I switch off and get some rest...past midnight > here now. > > I think for my part the #one culprit is Mars pratyantar which commenced just > a few days ago. Transit Mars, combust transit 8th lord Sun, certainly speaks > of quick flare-ups, I would say...rash Mars acts in haste! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 > > "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> > Cc: <jyotish-vidya> > Monday, October 16, 2006 11:26 PM > Re: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House > > > Hi, > > I guess we should get on with the normal business as usual...no hard > feelings! > > if someone is interested, the misunderstanding has occured due to > the fact that my rahu aspects the AL from a house of Venus - Mrs > Wendy must be having Venus as her AK - and this is the time when > Rahu is getting a little hyperactive, thanks to the fact that his > shift of house is on cards > > Kishore patnaik > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Dear Kishore, Whilst I'm still at the computer: My birth data is in the database (along with other members) but here it is anyway... Sep 4 1943 (16:20) Melbourne, Victoria Australia Lagna: Capricorn 28.29.33 Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 > <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:07 AM Re: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House Hi, Please post your chart if you are interested. regards, Kishore patnaik On 10/16/06, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Kishore and All, > > A (very) quick note before I switch off and get some rest...past midnight > here now. > > I think for my part the #one culprit is Mars pratyantar which commenced > just > a few days ago. Transit Mars, combust transit 8th lord Sun, certainly > speaks > of quick flare-ups, I would say...rash Mars acts in haste! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 > > "Wendy Vasicek" <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> > Cc: <jyotish-vidya> > Monday, October 16, 2006 11:26 PM > Re: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House > > > Hi, > > I guess we should get on with the normal business as usual...no hard > feelings! > > if someone is interested, the misunderstanding has occured due to > the fact that my rahu aspects the AL from a house of Venus - Mrs > Wendy must be having Venus as her AK - and this is the time when > Rahu is getting a little hyperactive, thanks to the fact that his > shift of house is on cards > > Kishore patnaik > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi You have led a very contended life, but your talents were not recognised much. contact me if I am right, regards, kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Here is one more Horoscope for analysis: Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / GL \ / | | \ / \ / | | x As x Ra Ju | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 11 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Sa x | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Mo \ / | | \ / \ / AL | |Ke x Me Su HL x Gk Md | | / \ / \ | | / \ Ma / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ve \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ D-9 is as under : Navamsa D-9 +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ Md / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ju x As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / GL \ 12 / \ | | / \ / \ | | Ke x Ra | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Me AL x Mo x Gk HL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Ve \ / Su \ | | / Sa \ / Ma \ | +--------------+ Any predictions... Thanks KC --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Kishore ji, > > Further to earlier postings, on your thread of > mercury / sun in 7th; mercury lacks the directional > strength in 7th - and hence native will need to be > directed for any specific positive results from 7th > housed mercury. Sun is debilitated in kalapurusha > chart in 7th - hence will have its own weakness to > carry with it. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Lack of will power has caused more failure than lack > of intelligence or ability. > ************************************************ > > __________ > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your > documents, photos and music online! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dear Kishore, You Wrote: //You have led a very contended life, but your talents were not recognised much.// At first I'd thought you might have misinterpreted the chart as, certainly, in regards to work (the only talent I seem to have), I've always done fairly well...promoted very quickly in every job I've ever had and, in my nursing days, I was always picked out (above others) to demonstrate how a particular procedure was done, and so forth. However, on mulling over what you said, I realise you were correct in your assessment. I work very hard building and maintaining the website as well as this group...often work too hard it seems! But there can be no denying that this is not at all recognised by my family and those close to me as legitimate work. The general consensus seems to be that I'd do better to scrub the kitchen floor a little more often instead of playing on the computer... But that's okay...it's just the way it is! And, for the most part, I'm usually too busy typing away to take too much notice of those around me anyway. Mind you I'm aware of others attitude, but not TOO perplexed by it :-) Contented life-- Well it's not always been an easy life, but I've managed to maintain an inner contentment for the most part. Of course grief comes to us all from time to time, and I've certainly had my share... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 > <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:12 PM Re: Re: Mercury and Sun in 7th House Hi You have led a very contended life, but your talents were not recognised much. contact me if I am right, regards, kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dear all, I am really happy having received tremendous response for this mail and I was sent 30 to 35 charts for analysis. However, I notice with regret that the Regulars and the Respected Seniors are consipicuous by their silence(except two or three people) Obviously, I would have been much pleased if the Seniors have participated rigorously and guided in the debate. Whatever I am doing, I am doing for academic betterment in mind with the clear and sole intention of larger interest of the Science at heart and these debates will take us further in our further understanding of the Vedic astrology and the Dictums seen by the Vedic seers. I hope the Seniors will enlighten us with their valuable opinons on the subject and encourage such academic discussions. best regards, Kishore patnaik 98492 70729 On 10/10/06, kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 > wrote: > Dear all, > > Mercury in the 7th House from Lagna is often touted as a beneficial. > Saravali says it makes the native a learned man and beautiful and > obtains him a beautful and wealthy wife. > > However, Mridula choudhury even as describing Mercury in such a > position as extremely being beneficial to the chart in matters of > marriage, says such Mercury is often responsble for two marriages. > > This is so since Mercury owns dual signs as well being a jumpy > planet.mercury is famous for the duplicity and dilemma. > > In other words, Mercury is not so very beneficial as it meets the first eye. > > On the other hand, Sun in 7th is seen as choosy and divisive and said > to be leading to Divorce. That is , there is almost an unanimous view > that the Sun in 7th is not a very conducive position for marriage, > even as some authors do not like to accept him as Malefic but > condescending him the status of Cruel planet. > > But, Sun is a very disciplined planet and has the capability of > influencing the entire chart into its own way.Thus, it denies the > native the chance of remarriage and often, gives only one marrige, > making the same somewhat dry and monotonous if not unhappy. > > In other words, sun too is not what it should be, as it meets the first eye. > > In view of such background, I am looking into the charts where the sun > or mercury or both, along with or without other planets , are posited > in the 7th House. > > Hence, I request all to send me such charts, whether those of > celebrities or their friends etc, with a small note commeting on their > family life. > > Hope I will recieve good replies from all of you, > > best regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hello. I just saw your email. With 00 07 Aquarius Lagna, Sun RULES my seventh house, placed in the sixth, and Mercury with Saturn are IN the seventh. I have been married and divorced twice. Both marriages were short (5 and 6 years) and neither was a particularly happy marriage. I have been single for over 20 years now. Data: Aug 14 1949, 7:03:40 pm, Houston, Texas, USA. Anne Beversdorf Counselling Astrologer Western and Vedic www.stariel.com anne (AT) stariel (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hello, The time is 6:30PM on 7-sept-1972 place Dabhoi in Gujarat. There are 4 planets in 7th Su(Own)-Mo-Me-Ma. He has happy married life with 3 kids and a brillant surgeon. He is planning so much business tie ups and so i think that whats represents the 7th house in all. Kindly give the feedback. Thanks KC --- kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 > wrote: > dear kinner, > > please give the birth details and please discuss the > married life. > > Kishore patnaik > > On 10/19/06, kinner patel <ren_nik > wrote: > > Here is one more Horoscope for analysis: > > > > Rasi > > +--------------+ > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / GL \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | x As x Ra Ju | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ 11 / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | Sa x | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / Mo \ / | > > | \ / \ / AL | > > |Ke x Me Su HL x Gk Md | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ Ma / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / Ve \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > +--------------+ > > > > D-9 is as under : > > > > Navamsa D-9 > > +--------------+ > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ Md / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > |Ju x As x | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / GL \ 12 / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | Ke x Ra | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > | \ / \ / | > > |Me AL x Mo x Gk HL | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / \ / \ | > > | / Ve \ / Su \ | > > | / Sa \ / Ma \ | > > +--------------+ > > > > Any predictions... > > > > Thanks > > KC > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kishore ji, > > > > > > Further to earlier postings, on your thread of > > > mercury / sun in 7th; mercury lacks the > directional > > > strength in 7th - and hence native will need to > be > > > directed for any specific positive results from > 7th > > > housed mercury. Sun is debilitated in > kalapurusha > > > chart in 7th - hence will have its own weakness > to > > > carry with it. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > Lack of will power has caused more failure than > lack > > > of intelligence or ability. > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your > > > documents, photos and music online! > > > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out > more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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