Sita's question and prophecy

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Ammachi, Stacee Kramer <stacee.kramer

wrote:

> Many are saying that we are in the End times....and

> revelation and all of that. And to be honest with you

> I have been trying to walk away from those

> concepts....as many of the more New Age groups I was

> involved with years ago were based on these kinds of

> ideas.

>

> I have not been able to shake these ideas, as they

> keep creeping up one way or the other....even Babaji

> is saying that these times are upon us. The one great

> thing about this is that God seems to want to create a

> more loving and healed world. And is willing to allow

> chaos to occur in order for this to come about.

 

Namah Sivaya Stacee,

 

I appreciate your considerate reply. I want to reply to the above,

hoping it is okay since you brought up Babaji...I'm assuming

Haidhakhan Babaji. He did predict dark times in the near future, and

so I just want to project some words of caution re: great beings and

their predictions. I hope the group will excuse me, as it falls in

context with our discussion re: Amma and liberation. Years ago

someone gave me the little book Teachings of Babaji (Hairakhan

Baba). I never paid much attention to it, but picked it up again

recently. There were many dark prophecies in it, particularly about

the great revolution and destruction coming. But on page 44 it is

written:

7 January 1983

"In the evening during darshan, Shree Babaji told that soon in

America people will get a form of disease which they will be unable

to stop and which will cause death. Some will vomit themselves to

death, still others will bleed to death from cuts which will not

stop bleeding. There is no sure prevention and there will be no

cure. He recommends fasting as the best means of avoidance. These

diseases will spread from America to all parts of the world."

 

But as you can nearly 24 years later, this hasn't occurred. In the

intro, it says that Shri Babaji said that mankind is in great danger

during the period of Kali Yuga--the Age of the rise of materialism

and the decline of spiritual life. He foretold of widespread

physical destruction and change and death in this decade....that was

written in the early 80's, yet this prediction has not materialized

yet and certainly not "in this decade", meaning the 80's. He first

began predicting these things almost 30 years ago.

 

So why the predictions that haven't yet materialized? I was recently

re-reading Paul Brunton's "A Search in Secret India"...written in

the 1930's it created a great sensation. His visits to Meher Baba

were full of doubt, as Baba was extremely erratic in behavior and

even his disciples said that his predictions never came true. Then I

happened upon "Talks with Sri Aurobindo" where he and his inner

circle were discussing Meher Baba, sometimes under name and

sometimes under the guise of X. Here's a part:

 

S: To go back to X: his action is, as I have said, very erratic,

saying one thing just now, contradicting it the next moment,

prophesying so many things that don't come true.

Sri Aurobindo: That means he is living and acting from the Cosmic

Consciousness. I don't know what realisation he has reached. Perhaps

it is in the vital plane. That is a plane of possibilities. If any

possibility or an idea or suggestion comes to him with some force,

he accepts it. The nature of the vital formations is to present them

with a force. And when another possibility comes with the same

force, X accepts that too so that his prophecies go wrong, become

contradictory and his planning and behavior erratic. This sort of

thing I have known by experience. But the European mind can't

understand it. It calls it all fraud.

 

I also think we could be in for some very difficult times, but I'm

also sure we must pray to the Divine and do our best to bring

positive energy to our planet....remembering that this is also

transitory and to find refuge in the Self. And also, we don't have

to take every prediction made by even the great beings as set in

stone. I think Sri Aurobindo explains this well, as I've read him to

say in another book that prophesy becomes more difficult and less

accurate the longer the span of time it is predicted for.

 

Namah Sivaya, Sita

[Guest guest]

Dear Sita,

 

Bummer!!!

 

I was hoping this message did not go out to the group

as a whole...as it did not come through my mailbox.

The message in its entirety did however go to the

archives.

 

I asked internally about that, (plea to Amma really).

And I was told that whoever is drawn to read the

message has something to learn by it. But as a whole

the information about the future...as you have so

elaborately described is indeed, still the unknown an

we cannot know for sure what the future will look

like.

 

It is not really the predictions that I was referring

to, but the idea that we are in times of great change.

 

And that God is working with us as much as possible to

bring us to Love, Peace, Forgiveness and Joy. The

other point I was hoping to make with this, was that

there are tremendous opportunities for healing and

awakening during these times.

 

There is no way to know what will happen. As I have

said in my message that I have been trying to walk

away from such ideas.

 

Even Amma has said in the most recent movie, Darshan,

that we are heading for the abyss. Great beings can

read the trend of the times...and even we, ourselves

can see the trend if we look around.

 

I try to stay focused on Love, Amma, Amma, Amma and

Amma