Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Dear Jose Ji Namaskar and thank you for posting this question....need more information on this to answer in the best way as cannot access picture sent with message Specific to the wording in your question there is a standard set by Siva Purana for quality of Beads to be used In Siva Purana Vidyesvara Samhita part 21 is stated O Goddess.......Rudraksha of even size, glossy, firm, thick and haveing many thorn like protrusions yield desires and bestow worldly pleasures and salvation for ever When inspecting any new crop of the Holy Rudraksha Beads Rudra Center encounters many different grades of beads and only buys the best according to Siva Purana and that means buying only about 40% to 50% of any collection because as you have implied in your message........there are some beads that simply dont form as well as others as they grow on tree So there are different grades of Rudraksha Beads that any one can buy......same Mukhi Beads of different colors and different sizes and all this due to different growing conditions in environment most likely...some dont have the deep lines or large exterior protrusions on the outside surface of the beads and the exterior protrusions are not thick and glossy and do not raise far from surface....some of the Indonesian beads are almost non recognizable specific to just what Mukhi they might be So getting back to your question......specific to size it seems you are speaking of a mala consisting of different sized Indonesian Punch Mukhi Rudraksha that have been combined on a mala with sphatik crystal beads......have never heard of Shakti Quartz bead from Himalayas however is most likely the same Sphatik Crystal beads you will see on our website at www..com.....dont know why they would have a crack inside of them Red orange dye is common from Indonesian or Nepal and Indonesian Punch Mukhi Beads of lesser quality sometimes are such because they do not show all the Mukhis clearly so there is a gradeing system with Indonesian Beads as well as with the Nepal Beads If the Beads are getting dark in color it just means they are naturally ageing and going darker similar to silver discoloring as it ages...all you have to do is clean the beads with soft tooth brush in warm water and light mixture of soap.........then rinse and let dry........then if you want to lighten the color soak them in lemon juice until they lighten up for you...after this soak them in a clear oil like sandlewood oil or maybe olive oil and you will have lighter color beads.......if traditional mustard oil is used then the beads will darken naturally again Most all the beads become darker as they age so this is normal however from what you are saying........your mala is made up of different sized beads where some dont show all the mukhis and then with crystal that has cracks in the beads.....this seems to be a less expensive mala made with a lower grade of beads.........however again I have not seen the picture of your mala or the mala itself so really cant comment on this A higher grade mala where quality of beads would be more in line with Siva Purana would have all beads much the same size and with all Mukhis showing in addition to good detail of outer protrusions that raise from the outside surface of the bead and sphatik crystal beads that were totally clear with no cracks Difference in color really doesnt matter as there is stated in the SriMadDeviBhagavat that 38 different colors were developed for the benefit of the mankind and these colors range from red to brown to rich brown and white and black Rudra Center buys only all natural colors and what we have experienced from the past are beads that are light tan to brown to rich brown and black as natural colors in this age Sometimes the retailers will have different colored beads that are dyed and sometimes they will tell their clients to keep them in yellow or red powders......for example when I met with owner of Puja International in Fremont in 2002 the owner showed me a 14 Mukhi Bead and was extremly happy with haveing 14 Mukhi.......the man who sold the bead to the owner gave instructions to keep bead in a small box with a yellow powder covering it I was allowed to examine the bead and found that it was a Round Nepal 5 Mukhi Bead that had 9 lines or Mukhis cut into it by an artisan makeing it a fake bead......was kind of difficult to say that the bead was a fake and I was surprised that the owner would not believe me Was kind of an odd situation because the owner had faith in the fake bead......... and in addition to this faith also had all the difficulties in business and life that an authentic 14 Mukhi would help to relieve........and was still trying to get out of all the difficulties an authentic 14 Mukhi might help with Was like owner was blinded by something and could not see forest due to the many trees that made up the forest...........I gave up trying to explain the difficulty as the owner could not see that the Bead was fake and was sure the difficulties that were being experienced were due to something else It was nice to go to Fremont at time of India Independence Day Festival however it was kind of sad to see a person so mixed up and unsure of what to do.......am hopeing all is better for owner and family hope this helps to explain a little more about beads and their grades and colors Wishing all the Best Rudra Center India and America DD , JOSE REYMUNDI <stargate40 wrote: > > TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: i buy a mala of 5 mukhis rudraksha some beads have 6 mukhis instead 5 the beads are 8mm but look smallers., the mala have 3 crystal clear with crack inside they call shakti quartz round bead from himalayas., the color of the rudraksha beads are kind of red-orange some of them do not show the mukhis like others perfectly I asking you it's a normal mala? and what happen when it getting dark in color? here's a picture of the mala . > > jiwa shastra <j_shastra wrote: > a friend of mine boght 17mukis from suresh nepal it is working very well on > her after 2 months of wearing and it is definetly cheaper than india price > when she bought i it is fake as the diffirent is about 20,000 rupees, but > later we certify that it is original throught a rudraksha expert. i think it > is our faith n luck should come together to get a good rudraksha. suresh is > maybe cheating somepeople n may be not always i do not know. when i was in > nepal i did met him but i did not buy from him. he has a lot of overseas > packages to send out. i was quite not happy with his building too dark > narrow 3rd floor scrarring . reason i never go back to him because of him > very high narrow dark staircase to climb up . tq namaste k.thevarani. > malaysia > > >Nikhil V <nikhil_v23 > > > > > >Re: RBSC : Re: RBSC : SMALL RUDRAKSHA BEADS > >Fri, 6 Oct 2006 05:45:12 +0100 (BST) > > > >Dear DD, > > > >The information about Rudraksha Nepal of Suresh Banset > >was new to me. I made my first purchase of rudrakshas > >from Suresh Banset it was a combo of (13, 9 & 7). > >Later when I got the astrological recomendation from > >Rudra Center I went to Rudra Center's office personaly > >to collect the rudrakshas (12 & 8). The person at > >Rudra Center happened to see the earlier rudrakshas I > >had brought and examined them. Thankfully he commented > >that they were original. > > > >Since value of 13 mukhi is only Rs 4700 odd they may > >not have found it worthwhile to fake it. Thankfully > >when i brought 14 mukhi later I choose to buy it from > >from Rudra Center. I was guided more by instinct than > >price when I made that purchase. As usual at that time > >the Rudraksha Nepal price was a few thousands less > >than the Rudra Center Price > > > >A few weeks back I was tempted to buy the 16 mukhi and > >17 mukhis from Rudraksha Nepal since the price > >differential with Rudra Center is simply huge.(more > >than (33000 for both beads) Now I think I know HOW HE > >SELLS IT cheaper . > > > > > >Nevertheless the 13 mukhi is busy working wonders for > >me. Its a truly wonderful bead. > > > >Thanks & regards > > > >NIKHIL > > > > > > > >--- rudracenter <no_reply> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friend > > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......there > > > is really little > > > to commnet on here unless you can send email > > > pictures of the beads > > > you bought......... to the club site or to Rudra > > > Center > > > authentication services in Mumbai.........problem is > > > that you have > > > to add into the price the cost of travel to nepal > > > and I dont see > > > that here so cost of beads and some of cost of > > > travel are actually > > > one > > > > > > Then is stated that 14 Mukhi cost between 7000 and > > > 10000 Rupees > > > howevever you dont mention whether Nepal Rupees at > > > about 70 to the > > > american dollor as Indian Rupees are about 40 to the > > > american > > > dollar....am fairly certain you must have been > > > talking about nepal > > > rupees however this means you are saying 14 Mukhi > > > can be bought at > > > retail in Nepal for about 100 american > > > dollars.....Difficulty with > > > this is that Rudra Center cant even buy authentic > > > Nepal 14 Mukhi on > > > Wholesale Market from Collector Families for this > > > small > > > price.......this would make on suspicious as we > > > would certainlyh > > > like to buy as many authentic 14 Mukhi Nepal beads > > > as we could for > > > this amount of money.........however there are many > > > beads in the 12 > > > Mukhi large size that have lines added to them by > > > skilled artisans > > > to make them 14 Mukhi and higher beads > > > > > > When Rudra Center America tried to establish a > > > connection to buy > > > Nepal Rudraksha from a company called Rudraksha > > > Nepal from Suresh > > > Basnet we were offered the counterfiet beads in > > > addition to the > > > authentic beads and at a greatly reduced > > > price........he said no one > > > would be able to tell the difference........this is > > > one of the > > > reasons we stopped doing business with this company > > > as they didnt > > > seem to mind what they sold to whoever would buy and > > > Shiva Purana > > > does not allow this > > > > > > Hopeing you got the authentic beads however you > > > seemed to go through > > > a lot of trouble when you could have simply ordered > > > them from Mrs > > > Neeta at Rudra Center India and Mumbai.....What > > > should have made a > > > difference to you is when Mr Anil told you the > > > Indonesian beads have > > > same power as the Nepal Beads.......Siva Purana and > > > other Holy Books > > > say just the opposite.......actually it sounds like > > > you got passed > > > back and forth from one seller to another and got a > > > good experience > > > of what it is like to go to Nepal and try to deal > > > with people who > > > retail the beads for a liveing and will tell you > > > anything you wish > > > to hear and sell you whatever they have at the > > > time........Is a good > > > experience if you dont spend any money........hope > > > you can send some > > > pictures > > > > > > When I was in Nasik India in 2001 a gypsy let me > > > look at the > > > Rudraksha they had for sale that had carved Cobra on > > > the > > > Bead....glued into the bead quite naturally.....I > > > complemented the > > > dealer for the great art work they did and the > > > dealer was most happy > > > and asked if I wanted to buy.......I told them there > > > was no way I > > > would buy however their counterfiet artwork was > > > great and really > > > well done....dealer didnt really understand how a > > > client could > > > comment on their work in a positive manner and then > > > not buy however > > > maybe something would be resolved so that they would > > > end up selling > > > genuine authentice Rudraksha to people instead of > > > mixing > > > counterfiets with the real ones to throw the buyer > > > off > > > > > > Looking forward to seeing pictures of the Nepal > > > Rudraksha you bought > > > > > > Wishing you and Family the Best > > > > > > Rudra Center India and America > > > > > > DD > > > > > > , > > > "jiwa shastra" > > > <j_shastra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > thank you n namaste > > > > i went all the way to nepal just to purchase > > > rudraksha and before > > > that i do > > > > a lot of surwey on that throuh internet . finaly > > > with a few > > > addresses i went > > > > nepal > > > > i went 1st to c anill at maharaja palace as the > > > appointment was > > > made from > > > > malaysia . but i never buy from him straight away. > > > i went to > > > mukinath > > > > rudraksha n i went to some other rudraksha centre > > > s to check the > > > prices make > > > > sure that i should not get cheated. as you have > > > mentioned we > > > should not > > > > bargain for any holy items but i believe also we > > > should not get > > > cheated it > > > > can be any items when people knew that we are > > > desperate on > > > something they > > > > rise up the price double . > > > > we cant change them but i believe v should not let > > > them grow by v > > > get > > > > cheated.it happen in nepal even i went to > > > Pasupathinath temple the > > > singing > > > > holy bell they open the price for 2000 rupees > > > since i have > > > surveyed , it > > > > should be worth for only200 to 300 rupees i > > > straight away tell the > > > seller i > > > > want that price only n surprisingly they sold them > > > to me for the > > > price i ask > > > > for. > > > > 14 mukis goes from 7,000 to 10000 nepali rupess in > > > nepal . i bough > > > my set > > > > for 19000 nepali ruppees, my husband mala bought > > > for 28000 rupees > > > my sons 11 > > > > n 3 mukis i bought for 3000 rupees gourishanger > > > for2800 rupees > > > > that is t price in nepal little cheaper in other > > > places than > > > Maharajapalace. > > > > but i bought from him because i trusted him since > > > his name is > > > mentioned by a > > > > lots of people when i was in nepal. when i bought > > > he showed me the > > > big > > > > nepali rudraksha mala which was very big (55 ,000 > > > nepali rupees) n > > > i knew > > > > definetly my husband hesitate to wear. in malaysia > > > a islamic > > > country it > > > > will be eye catching . no point i buy it so i ask > > > Mr anil do he > > > have smaller > > > > beats. then he strait away show the mala which he > > > n his brother > > > wearing in > > > > the neck , he ask me u want some think small like > > > this? i told him > > > yes then > > > > he said this is from indonesia .i ask him about > > > the quality he > > > said power is > > > > same otherwise we wont be wearing it. i ask him to > > > get ready for > > > whatever > > > > price he gave. but went i went to mukinath > > > rudraksha > > > > >=== message truncated === > > > > > > > > > >________ > > India Answers: Share what you know. 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