Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Dear Vistiji, While giving a Mantra for one it need to be judged from the planet deity which is in the 5th House if exists , other wise its lord or the one aspecting it . The IstaDevata of one can be found out by the deity of the 12th lord from AK in Navamsa . So In my case one is Ganesh (Since Ketu in the 5th House) and another is Gowri as moon becomes the 12th Lord from Saturn ( AK ) in Navamsa . Some astrologers say that deity of the dasa Lord (Mahalaxmi in my case) has to be worshipped if its badly placed or neecha? Which one I should pray to get the good Results.Can you please explain me the Concept of Istadevata , deity of the 5th lord and deity of the Dasa lord. Regds Ramki _____ [] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, October 06, 2006 3:33 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marana Karaka Sthana Questions |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Supriti, Namaskar. We use the rule of three: 1) chara karaka, 2) naisargika karaka and 3) lordships. For example, an alianation of the Darakaraka can either mean denial of marriage (Venus-karaka) or wealth (jupiter-karaka). This should then be analyzed with respect to the second and seventh lords, as well as Jupiter and Venus to confirm which of the two areas (or both) is showing problems. In your daughters chart we see that Jupiter is badly placed from the Moon and is Chara and Naisargika Putrakaraka, so this can delay childbirth or show loss of child. Similarly we see that the Darakaraka (saturn) is also badly placed, and being that Jupiter is also naisargika dhana-karaka and is also badly placed, we do see a problem with finances arising as well. You should also confirm with the lordships of Fifth (children), second (wealth) to understand the extent of the problem. In case of all three it can show a complete denial of the significations indicated. Now, when reckoning this, we must refer only to the internal likes and dislikes of the planets towards each other, and not the external manifestations. I.e. Rahu being placed in the ninth from Moon is not bad for Rahu in the case you cited. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com supriti108 wrote: |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Visti ji, I am trying to understand the MKS concept further. I am using my daughter's chart as an example. Here are my queries: 1.Mo is AK. Ju and Sa are placed in the 8th from Moon. Hence can we say that in a past life she rejected the significations of Ju(PK) and Sa (DK). Would we use the natural karakas to interpret this or should we use the chara karakas? 2. Rh (PiK) is placed in 9th from Mo. This is Rahu's MKS position. What does this mean? Thank you so much. Regards Supriti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Ramki, Namaskar. The Ishta Devata gives jeevanmukti or liberation in this world itself. Ishta devata worship will bless the person with all the right mantras and advise at the right time. Generally such people lead a good peaceful life. The deity of the planet in the fifth house is worshiped to ensure our future is protected. This could be to ensure good job, finances, health, etc., but this worship is essential to ensure progress in life. The first two remedies are quite essential. The worship of the mahadasa lord was not recommended by Parasara; Instead he recommended remedies based on the antaradasa. However, when we start choosing remedies based on dasa, we are doing so to overcome bad karma. So we must first identify the bad karma and then remedy it using the appropriate remedy. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com RamaKrishna Acharya .S wrote: > > Dear Vistiji, > > While giving a Mantra for one it need to be judged from the planet > deity which is in the 5th House if exists , > other wise its lord or the one aspecting it . The IstaDevata of one > can be found out by the deity of the 12th lord from > AK in Navamsa . So In my case one is Ganesh (Since Ketu in the 5th > House) and another is Gowri as moon becomes > the 12th Lord from Saturn ( AK ) in Navamsa . Some astrologers say > that deity of the dasa Lord (Mahalaxmi in my case) > has to be worshipped if its badly placed or neecha? Which one I should > pray to get the good Results.Can you please > explain me the Concept of Istadevata , deity of the 5th lord and > deity of the Dasa lord. > > Regds > Ramki > > > > ** [srijagannat > h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > *Sent:* Friday, October 06, 2006 3:33 PM > *To:* > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marana Karaka Sthana Questions > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Supriti, Namaskar. > We use the rule of three: 1) chara karaka, 2) naisargika karaka and 3) > lordships. > For example, an alianation of the Darakaraka can either mean denial of > marriage (Venus-karaka) or wealth (jupiter-karaka) . This should then > be analyzed with respect to the second and seventh lords, as well as > Jupiter and Venus to confirm which of the two areas (or both) is > showing problems. > In your daughters chart we see that Jupiter is badly placed from the > Moon and is Chara and Naisargika Putrakaraka, so this can delay > childbirth or show loss of child. Similarly we see that the Darakaraka > (saturn) is also badly placed, and being that Jupiter is also > naisargika dhana-karaka and is also badly placed, we do see a problem > with finances arising as well. > You should also confirm with the lordships of Fifth (children), second > (wealth) to understand the extent of the problem. In case of all three > it can show a complete denial of the significations indicated. > > Now, when reckoning this, we must refer only to the internal likes and > dislikes of the planets towards each other, and not the external > manifestations. I.e. Rahu being placed in the ninth from Moon is not > bad for Rahu in the case you cited. > Hope this helps. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > supriti108 wrote: >> >> |OM GURAVE NAMAH| >> Pranaam Visti ji, >> >> I am trying to understand the MKS concept further. >> >> I am using my daughter's chart as an example. Here are my queries: >> 1.Mo is AK. Ju and Sa are placed in the 8th from Moon. Hence can we >> say that in a past life she rejected the significations of Ju(PK) and Sa >> (DK). Would we use the natural karakas to interpret this or should we >> use the chara karakas? >> 2. Rh (PiK) is placed in 9th from Mo. This is Rahu's MKS position. >> What does this mean? >> >> Thank you so much. >> >> Regards >> Supriti >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Dear Visti, Namskar, I am refreshing BHPS with special reference to Karmkanda( remedies, curses etc)Sh K. N. Rao in recent news clipping on T.V. has stated that karmkanda part of astrology is unscietific.I read your statement "The worship of the mahadasa lord was not recommended by Parasara; Instead he recommended remedies based on the antaradasa." Really a thoughtproking statement.In fact your mail is full of wisdom. Will you kindly hint the relevent sloka/chapters.I have four versions of BHPS.So please quote the vesrion you refer , if possible.I wish to contemplate on your mail in context with examination of case studies available on remedial aspect. With kind regards R.C.Srivastava. - Visti Larsen Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:01 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Istadevata or Diety of the 5th lord or Diety of the Dasa Lord |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Ramki, Namaskar. The Ishta Devata gives jeevanmukti or liberation in this world itself. Ishta devata worship will bless the person with all the right mantras and advise at the right time. Generally such people lead a good peaceful life. The deity of the planet in the fifth house is worshiped to ensure our future is protected. This could be to ensure good job, finances, health, etc., but this worship is essential to ensure progress in life. The first two remedies are quite essential. The worship of the mahadasa lord was not recommended by Parasara; Instead he recommended remedies based on the antaradasa. However, when we start choosing remedies based on dasa, we are doing so to overcome bad karma. So we must first identify the bad karma and then remedy it using the appropriate remedy. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com RamaKrishna Acharya .S wrote: Dear Vistiji, While giving a Mantra for one it need to be judged from the planet deity which is in the 5th House if exists , other wise its lord or the one aspecting it . The IstaDevata of one can be found out by the deity of the 12th lord from AK in Navamsa . So In my case one is Ganesh (Since Ketu in the 5th House) and another is Gowri as moon becomes the 12th Lord from Saturn ( AK ) in Navamsa . Some astrologers say that deity of the dasa Lord (Mahalaxmi in my case) has to be worshipped if its badly placed or neecha? Which one I should pray to get the good Results.Can you please explain me the Concept of Istadevata , deity of the 5th lord and deity of the Dasa lord. Regds Ramki [srijagannat h ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, October 06, 2006 3:33 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marana Karaka Sthana Questions |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Supriti, Namaskar. We use the rule of three: 1) chara karaka, 2) naisargika karaka and 3) lordships. For example, an alianation of the Darakaraka can either mean denial of marriage (Venus-karaka) or wealth (jupiter-karaka) . This should then be analyzed with respect to the second and seventh lords, as well as Jupiter and Venus to confirm which of the two areas (or both) is showing problems. In your daughters chart we see that Jupiter is badly placed from the Moon and is Chara and Naisargika Putrakaraka, so this can delay childbirth or show loss of child. Similarly we see that the Darakaraka (saturn) is also badly placed, and being that Jupiter is also naisargika dhana-karaka and is also badly placed, we do see a problem with finances arising as well. You should also confirm with the lordships of Fifth (children), second (wealth) to understand the extent of the problem. In case of all three it can show a complete denial of the significations indicated. Now, when reckoning this, we must refer only to the internal likes and dislikes of the planets towards each other, and not the external manifestations. I.e. Rahu being placed in the ninth from Moon is not bad for Rahu in the case you cited. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com supriti108 wrote: |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Visti ji, I am trying to understand the MKS concept further. I am using my daughter's chart as an example. Here are my queries: 1.Mo is AK. Ju and Sa are placed in the 8th from Moon. Hence can we say that in a past life she rejected the significations of Ju(PK) and Sa (DK). Would we use the natural karakas to interpret this or should we use the chara karakas? 2. Rh (PiK) is placed in 9th from Mo. This is Rahu's MKS position. What does this mean? Thank you so much. Regards Supriti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. In the two versions of Santhanam and Sharma, i believe Parasara only gives remedies for the antara dasa. Guruji Sanjay Rath has compiled a list of them in his book Vedic Remedies. The reason being that the main problems faced due to dasa are that the mind (antara dasa) is not accepting certain circumstances presented to it. To remedy this we 'change' the mind. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: > > Dear Visti, > Namskar, > I am refreshing BHPS with special reference to Karmkanda( remedies, > curses etc)Sh K. N. Rao in recent news clipping on T.V. has stated > that karmkanda part of astrology is unscietific. I read your statement > " The worship of the mahadasa lord was not recommended by Parasara; > Instead he recommended remedies based on the antaradasa." Really a > thoughtproking statement.In fact your mail is full of wisdom. > Will you kindly hint the relevent sloka/chapters. I have four versions > of BHPS.So please quote the vesrion you refer , if possible.I wish to > contemplate on your mail in context with examination of case studies > available on remedial aspect. > With kind regards > R.C.Srivastava. > > - > ** Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > *To:* > <> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:01 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Istadevata or Diety of the 5th > lord or Diety of the Dasa Lord > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Ramki, Namaskar. > The Ishta Devata gives jeevanmukti or liberation in this world > itself. Ishta devata worship will bless the person with all the > right mantras and advise at the right time. Generally such people > lead a good peaceful life. > The deity of the planet in the fifth house is worshiped to ensure > our future is protected. This could be to ensure good job, > finances, health, etc., but this worship is essential to ensure > progress in life. > The first two remedies are quite essential. > The worship of the mahadasa lord was not recommended by Parasara; > Instead he recommended remedies based on the antaradasa. However, > when we start choosing remedies based on dasa, we are doing so to > overcome bad karma. So we must first identify the bad karma and > then remedy it using the appropriate remedy. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > RamaKrishna Acharya .S wrote: >> Dear Vistiji, >> >> While giving a Mantra for one it need to be judged from the >> planet deity which is in the 5th House if exists , >> other wise its lord or the one aspecting it . The IstaDevata of >> one can be found out by the deity of the 12th lord from >> AK in Navamsa . So In my case one is Ganesh (Since Ketu in the >> 5th House) and another is Gowri as moon becomes >> the 12th Lord from Saturn ( AK ) in Navamsa . Some astrologers >> say that deity of the dasa Lord (Mahalaxmi in my case) >> has to be worshipped if its badly placed or neecha? Which one I >> should pray to get the good Results.Can you please >> explain me the Concept of Istadevata , deity of the 5th lord >> and deity of the Dasa lord. >> >> Regds >> Ramki >> >> >> >> ** [srijagannat >> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen >> *Sent:* Friday, October 06, 2006 3:33 PM >> *To:* >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marana Karaka Sthana Questions >> >> |Hare Rama Krsna| >> Dear Supriti, Namaskar. >> We use the rule of three: 1) chara karaka, 2) naisargika karaka >> and 3) lordships. >> For example, an alianation of the Darakaraka can either mean >> denial of marriage (Venus-karaka) or wealth (jupiter-karaka) . >> This should then be analyzed with respect to the second and >> seventh lords, as well as Jupiter and Venus to confirm which of >> the two areas (or both) is showing problems. >> In your daughters chart we see that Jupiter is badly placed from >> the Moon and is Chara and Naisargika Putrakaraka, so this can >> delay childbirth or show loss of child. Similarly we see that the >> Darakaraka (saturn) is also badly placed, and being that Jupiter >> is also naisargika dhana-karaka and is also badly placed, we do >> see a problem with finances arising as well. >> You should also confirm with the lordships of Fifth (children), >> second (wealth) to understand the extent of the problem. In case >> of all three it can show a complete denial of the significations >> indicated. >> >> Now, when reckoning this, we must refer only to the internal >> likes and dislikes of the planets towards each other, and not the >> external manifestations. I.e. Rahu being placed in the ninth from >> Moon is not bad for Rahu in the case you cited. >> Hope this helps. >> Yours sincerely, >> >> Visti Larsen >> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> >> >> >> supriti108 wrote: >>> >>> |OM GURAVE NAMAH| >>> Pranaam Visti ji, >>> >>> I am trying to understand the MKS concept further. >>> >>> I am using my daughter's chart as an example. Here are my queries: >>> 1.Mo is AK. Ju and Sa are placed in the 8th from Moon. Hence can we >>> say that in a past life she rejected the significations of >>> Ju(PK) and Sa >>> (DK). Would we use the natural karakas to interpret this or >>> should we >>> use the chara karakas? >>> 2. Rh (PiK) is placed in 9th from Mo. This is Rahu's MKS position. >>> What does this mean? >>> >>> Thank you so much. >>> >>> Regards >>> Supriti >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 All horoscopes seem to be corect, more or less. I don't see ant major threat for longevity of girls though it is a difficult question, always. She can't hope much from her son too. Lastly, looking at her horoscope (debilitated 5th lord Jup), I won't advise to go for further pregnancy. She should recite mahamrityunjay and Gayatri mantras. Best wishes, P.Kumar On 10/9/06, Twinkle Vijaywargiya <mrs_vijaywargiya (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > om gurave namah! > > respected gurus and learned members of the group, > one of my aquantaince is seriously in trouble . she have > three kids ; elder son and two younger identical twins. her son had > laeukemia when he was around one and a half year old...but by the > grace of god he is okay now. the lady went for other pregnancy so > that she can save the umblical blood for safeguarding the future of > the son . she went for all the necessary medical checkups ..also > consulted the best radiologists for any problems to the fetus. and > after getting satisfied she continued with her pregnancy. she gave > birth to twin girl children prematurely and later found out that they > had down's syndrome and also hole in their heart. the younger girl of > the two twins is more serious and have big hole in the heart while > the elder one have samll hole and can survive for some time. please > help this lady. > she have three questions: > 1)what is the future of these grils? are they going to survive or > not? > 2)what lies in the future of her son? will he be able to lead a > healthy life? > 3)should she go for another pregnancy for having a healthy child or > shud she go for adoption?? > > the birth details of all of them are as under: > > lady: 29 january 1973 ;3 : 05 am ; belgaum (this lady was in navy for > some 8-9 years and now have quit the job for her children) > > son: 18- jaunary 2000;9:37 am ; mumbai > > twins: > elder: 12 feb 2006 ;5:04 pm; mumbai > younger: 12 feb 2006; 5L:07 pm; mumbai > they are both born prematurely. > > pls help thius lady. > thanx a tonn. > > twinkle > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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