Statistical rate of liberation

October 6, 2006

Dear Sweta and all,

I am re-posting this message sent by Eric this summer.

According to Sivananda: "A devotee alone gets troubles

and adversities; because this is his

last birth many karmas have to be worked out and he

must be united with the Lord in this very birth."

It seems that he is saying that we are working with

the Sadguru now, and will achieve liberation by the

end of this birth. Maybe even before. It would be

interesting to hear Amma's view on this.

In Awaken Children One this question comes up a lot,

and I recall her saying that it is not that hard to

achieve and can take 3-4 years.

Food for thought.

OM NAMAH SIVAYA

SIVANANDA DAILY READING FOR 12 AUGUST

YOGA OF SELF-SURRENDER

Repeat this formula very often and with intense faith:

"The Lord is

my strength, my support and my stay." Thus you will

derive strength,

power and peace.

God knows what is best for you and He does what is

best for you. His

ways are mysterious - know His ways and become wise.

Slay egoism and desire, they are the enemies, the

obstacles of self-

surrender. You may accuse God and say: "He is not

just; He is cruel.

Vicious persons are thriving I am virtuous and yet I

suffer. There is

no God." Later on you will realise that He has done

the best thing

for you.

Do not pray to the Lord for the removal of sufferings.

Pray to Him to

grant you power of endurance and patience to bear all

calamities.

A devotee remains unaffected by adversities, trials

and tribulations.

He knows and feels s that they are all karmic

purgations and are the

real messengers of God. He welcomes them calmly.

A devotee alone gets troubles and adversities; because

this is his

last birth many karmas have to be worked out and he

must be united

with the Lord in this very birth.

God gives immense strength and patience to His devotee

to bear

troubles and calamities. The devotee is ever calm and

cheerful - he

is not affected by them as his mind ever dwells in the

contemplation

of the Lord. He is not body-conscious.

Murmer not. Grumble not. Even a leaf cannot fall

without the will of

God. What is destined to take place as willed by God,

takes place.

Face the difficulties, the battle of life with a

smile. Become a

brave soldier. Difficulties come to intensify your

faith, to

strengthen your will and power of endurance and to

turn your mind

more and more towards God.

Pain is the great eye-opener. It is your silent

teacher. It will make

you remember God. Kunti prayed "0 Lord Krishna, give

me pain always

so that I may ever remember you." The more troubles

and adversities

you get, the stronger and firmer will be your faith in

God. They will

mould you into a divine being. Welcome them.

Seek God's grace through self-surrender and He will

show you the way.

Transient are all mundane things! Evanescent are all

earthly forms!

Seek the immortal and attain bliss eternal.

JAI MA

October 7, 2006

A more accessible question to ask might be what you can do to make life

more liveable, the pain more bearable in the here and now, rather than

the distant and probably unattainable hereafter. All beings, whether

spiritual or not, attempt to maximize happiness. It may be worth

pondering what methods will help achieve this objective.

If you want to keep track of the statistics and rate yourself average,

then you have two choices - exit the life loop if you can do it

successfully without getting reborn (if you to reincarnation

theology), OR, work with whatever agenda life presents you with and

change your attitude to one of acceptance. For sure, that is easier said

than done.

As a "busy single mother", you have your work cut out for you. Every day

presents you with an agenda. You don't need to scrounge around for ideas

on how to get liberated. If you don't execute the agenda life throws up

before you, misery is guaranteed. And look at it this way, sister

Swetaji, there are so many things you don't need to worry about - global

warming, sunspot activity etc. For maximum impact, work with your own

life. And in doing so, you might come to realize that you have little or

no control over the externalities, Amma's phyical presence being one of

them. And even that little control is illusory. The only thing you have

control over is the view you take. So I would work with that.

Regards

fg

Om Amriteshwaryai Namah

Ammachi, Sweta Mitzel <swetabc wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> In one of the Awaken Children books, Amma's quoted as saying that of

millions who've tried to reach the goal, only a few have made it. Today

I felt disheartened by this. How could someone such as me, a busy single

mother on the other side of the globe from Amma's physical presence,

stand a chance of reaching the goal, after millions have failed? Any

thoughts on this?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Sweta

October 7, 2006

on 10/5/06 8:56 PM, Sweta Mitzel at swetabc wrote:

> Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> In one of the Awaken Children books, Amma's quoted as saying that of millions

> who've tried to reach the goal, only a few have made it. Today I felt

> disheartened by this. How could someone such as me, a busy single mother on

> the other side of the globe from Amma's physical presence, stand a chance of

> reaching the goal, after millions have failed? Any thoughts on this?

>

Liberation is getting easier than it once was as world consciousness rises.

It is becoming somewhat commonplace. I live in a small town (Fairfield,

Iowa) in which several thousand people have been meditating regularly for

decades (ever wonder why Amma comes here every summer?). Many here are

liberated, and new ones are waking up all the time. Of course, there are

many levels of awakening and I¹m not qualified to judge what state a person

has reached, but it is common to talk with people who haven¹t lost pure

awareness for years, even during sleep. Self-Realization is no big deal

around here. I¹m not saying this to brag, but to illustrate that a bunch of

westerners are getting enlightened, and there¹s no reason you couldn¹t. I

think it will spread like a contagion in the coming years. The boat will

carry many people. Just stay on it.

October 8, 2006

Amma has stated through regular practice of IAM meditation, that one

could reach liberation in three years. This however, means doing it

with discrimination-making correct life choices and such.

Adriane

Ammachi, Sweta Mitzel <swetabc wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> In one of the Awaken Children books, Amma's quoted as saying that

of millions who've tried to reach the goal, only a few have made

it. Today I felt disheartened by this. How could someone such as

me, a busy single mother on the other side of the globe from Amma's

physical presence, stand a chance of reaching the goal, after

millions have failed? Any thoughts on this?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Sweta

>

> All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get

things done faster.

>

October 8, 2006

Dear Rick,

My reason for asking the last question was not to

bring up TM as being superior to any other form of

meditation, or any path.

But simply to use this situation as a means of

inspiration for the times that are now upon us.

I think Eckhart Tolle says that many will fully awaken

at this time as the spiritual energies heighten.....

My other point too, is that many people feel that they

are not able to reach higher states of consciousness

if they are living in the modern world with

responsibilities such as job, family and all else

required to keep afloat these days. (You will find

certain groups and Sadgurus within the Sanatana Dharma

who live in the world in this way to some degree.)

If these Westerners have been successful in their

practice and are living mundane lives as well, this is

an inspirit ion to us all.

I do not think any one path is better than the

other....as long as you are following your path with

an open heart, an open mind and complete dedication

and faith than you will find your way.

S

> >

> Liberation is getting easier than it once was as

> world consciousness rises.

> It is becoming somewhat commonplace. I live in a

> small town (Fairfield,

> Iowa) in which several thousand people have been

> meditating regularly for

> decades (ever wonder why Amma comes here every

> summer?). Many here are

> liberated, and new ones are waking up all the time.

> Of course, there are

> many levels of awakening and I¹m not qualified to

> judge what state a person

> has reached, but it is common to talk with people

> who haven¹t lost pure

> awareness for years, even during sleep.

> Self-Realization is no big deal

> around here. I¹m not saying this to brag, but to

> illustrate that a bunch of

> westerners are getting enlightened, and there¹s no

> reason you couldn¹t. I

> think it will spread like a contagion in the coming

> years. The boat will

> carry many people. Just stay on it.

October 8, 2006

I understand and agree and intend to write you a nice response to the

previous post. Just haven¹t had a chance yet.

on 10/8/06 12:09 PM, Stacee Kramer at stacee.kramer (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net wrote:

>

> Dear Rick,

>

> My reason for asking the last question was not to

> bring up TM as being superior to any other form of

> meditation, or any path.

>

> But simply to use this situation as a means of

> inspiration for the times that are now upon us.

>

> I think Eckhart Tolle says that many will fully awaken

> at this time as the spiritual energies heighten.....

>

> My other point too, is that many people feel that they

> are not able to reach higher states of consciousness

> if they are living in the modern world with

> responsibilities such as job, family and all else

> required to keep afloat these days. (You will find

> certain groups and Sadgurus within the Sanatana Dharma

> who live in the world in this way to some degree.)

>

> If these Westerners have been successful in their

> practice and are living mundane lives as well, this is

> an inspirit ion to us all.

>

> I do not think any one path is better than the

> other....as long as you are following your path with

> an open heart, an open mind and complete dedication

> and faith than you will find your way.

>

> S

>

>>> > >

>> > Liberation is getting easier than it once was as

>> > world consciousness rises.

>> > It is becoming somewhat commonplace. I live in a

>> > small town (Fairfield,

>> > Iowa) in which several thousand people have been

>> > meditating regularly for

>> > decades (ever wonder why Amma comes here every

>> > summer?). Many here are

>> > liberated, and new ones are waking up all the time.

>> > Of course, there are

>> > many levels of awakening and I¹m not qualified to

>> > judge what state a person

>> > has reached, but it is common to talk with people

>> > who haven¹t lost pure

>> > awareness for years, even during sleep.

>> > Self-Realization is no big deal

>> > around here. I¹m not saying this to brag, but to

>> > illustrate that a bunch of

>> > westerners are getting enlightened, and there¹s no

>> > reason you couldn¹t. I

>> > think it will spread like a contagion in the coming

>> > years. The boat will

>> > carry many people. Just stay on it.

>

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October 9, 2006

According to Amma, 10% is spiritual practice the rest is Guru's

grace....

Ammachi, "amarnath" <anatol_zinc wrote:

>

> Ammachi, Sweta Mitzel <swetabc@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> >

> > In one of the Awaken Children books, Amma's quoted as saying

that

> of millions who've tried to reach the goal, only a few have made

> it. Today I felt disheartened by this. How could someone such as

> me, a busy single mother on the other side of the globe from

Amma's

> physical presence, stand a chance of reaching the goal, after

> millions have failed? Any thoughts on this?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Sweta

> > >>>>>

>

> Om Amriteswaryai Namaha,

>

> Sweta, please read the story of Syama Mataji in "Women of Power

and

> Grace" by Timothy Conway. Born in 1916, she fully realized God in

a

> wonderfully short time by simply repeating her mantra( God's Name)

> night and day.

>

> It seems for me at this time mantra japa is becoming a priority

more

> and more.

>

> Amma Bless,

> amarnath

>

October 9, 2006

Namah Sivaya

I've been reading several comments re:the original statement below

posted by Sweta. There was one comment, by the way, which I felt

sounded very strange in regard to liberation being "no big deal"

around here...in Iowa. Well, liberation is a big deal and according

to Amma it's the biggest deal in life.

Nevertheless, I have a question. According to Amma, a few within

millions have reached the goal of self-realization. So this is a

very rare event, indeed. Still, Amma speaks often of devotees who

have died and merged with Her. This could be taken as a paradox, but

I'm wondering what this merging actually means. Since Amma says one

in a million might suceed, then what do you suppose is this merging

with Her at the time of death. It isn't merging with this divine

lady in a white sari and a nose ring, but I believe merging into a

higher consciousness. I'm wondering if this "merging" is anything

similar to what the Tibetan Buddhists speak about as a special

opporunity we all have at the time of death to merge into the clear

light of consciousness which few are able to do because they haven't

prepared themselves through proper sadhana in life and become

afraid.

Any ideas? Sita

Ammachi, Sweta Mitzel <swetabc wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> In one of the Awaken Children books, Amma's quoted as saying that

of millions who've tried to reach the goal, only a few have made

it. Today I felt disheartened by this. How could someone such as

me, a busy single mother on the other side of the globe from Amma's

physical presence, stand a chance of reaching the goal, after

millions have failed? Any thoughts on this?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Sweta

>

> All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get

things done faster.

>

October 9, 2006