Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hi Guruji If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner not any, what kind of problems can be expected? Afflicted person Natal chart: Mars in 8th house with Saturn Rahu in 7th house Non-Afflicted person: Mars in 9th house Please advise..need help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Dear Raj_Kapoor Since Mars in 8th is with Saturn, the affliction is nuetralised. Rahu in 7th, may give rise to some obstacles, which could be overcome, by prayer. mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor > wrote: Hi Guruji If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner not any, what kind of problems can be expected? Afflicted person Natal chart: Mars in 8th house with Saturn Rahu in 7th house Non-Afflicted person: Mars in 9th house Please advise..need help! alternate email is raichurar :Location Bombay India How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Thanks a lot for the advice. The problem is that I have taken this query to multiple gurus..with most of them rejecting the alliance..you are only the second person to have given the go ahead...I want to understand that if the rules of astrology are universal...then why most of the astrologers (five) have strongly rejected this alliance? Would you like to study the natal chart of Manglik person in detail..here are the details: ************************************************************* * * * * * * * * * LAGN * * * * * * (10) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * KET * * NEP* * * * * * * * 3 * * * * 11 * * * * * * * * * URA * * * * * 10 * * * * 4 * 7 * * * *SUN * * * * * * * * * * * * MOO * RAH * * * * * * * * * * MER VEN* * * PLU * * 5 * * * MAR JUP SAT * 9 * * * * * * * ************************************************************* Regards, Raj vedic astrology, sridhar k <kopparsa wrote: > > Dear Raj_Kapoor > Since Mars in 8th is with Saturn, the affliction is nuetralised. > Rahu in 7th, may give rise to some obstacles, which could be overcome, by prayer. > > > mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor wrote: Hi Guruji > > If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner not any, > what kind of problems can be expected? > > Afflicted person Natal chart: > > Mars in 8th house with Saturn > Rahu in 7th house > > Non-Afflicted person: > > Mars in 9th house > > Please advise..need help! > > > > > > > alternate email is raichurar:Location Bombay India > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Dear Shri. Raj Kapoor: What Shri. Shridhar has said is correct. When Mars is in conjunction with Saturn, the mangalik effect is neutralized. Moreover, in this horoscope, Jupiter is also conjunct Mars which is another factor for cancelling Mars dosha. Rules and exceptions like these are not known to everyone....those who do not know these exceptions get carried away by the mangalik placement and reject the alliance. Those who know the exceptions clear it! AS simple as that....though the rules are universally applicable, the knowledge of rules and exceptions is not universal among astrologers! However, as Shri. Shridhar has said, presence of Rahu may give rise to problems which should not be forgotten. Hence remedies for Rahu should be undertaken, and the couple should consciously decide to adjust with each other in an effort to make the marriage workeable. Blessed be. Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic astrology, "mr_raj_kapoor" <mr_raj_kapoor wrote: > > Thanks a lot for the advice. The problem is that I have taken this > query to multiple gurus..with most of them rejecting the > alliance..you are only the second person to have given the go > ahead...I want to understand that if the rules of astrology are > universal...then why most of the astrologers (five) have strongly > rejected this alliance? Would you like to study the natal chart of > Manglik person in detail..here are the details: > > ************************************************************* > * * * * * * > * * * LAGN * * * > * * * (10) * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * > * * * KET * * NEP* > * * * * * * > * 3 * * * * 11 * > * * * * * * > * * URA * > * * * * 10 * * > * * 4 * 7 * * * > *SUN * * * * * > * * * * * * > * MOO * RAH * * > * * * * * * > * * MER VEN* * * PLU * > * 5 * * * MAR JUP SAT * 9 * > * * * * * * > ************************************************************* > > Regards, > Raj > > vedic astrology, sridhar k <kopparsa@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Raj_Kapoor > > Since Mars in 8th is with Saturn, the affliction is nuetralised. > > Rahu in 7th, may give rise to some obstacles, which could be > overcome, by prayer. > > > > > > mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor@> > wrote: Hi Guruji > > > > If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner not > any, > > what kind of problems can be expected? > > > > Afflicted person Natal chart: > > > > Mars in 8th house with Saturn > > Rahu in 7th house > > > > Non-Afflicted person: > > > > Mars in 9th house > > > > Please advise..need help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternate email is raichurar@:Location Bombay India > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- Phone > call rates. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 My heartiest thanks to both Sri Sridhar & Sri Dakshinamoorthi...my doubt is cleared now...can you please compare the 2 charts to confirm whether this will be happy alliance...your advice will be extremly helpful: Girl: 11 June 1980, 10:10 PM - Mumbai Boy: 18 Dec 1980, 2:10 PM - New Delhi Regards, Raj vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Shri. Raj Kapoor: > > What Shri. Shridhar has said is correct. When Mars is in > conjunction with Saturn, the mangalik effect is neutralized. > Moreover, in this horoscope, Jupiter is also conjunct Mars which is > another factor for cancelling Mars dosha. Rules and exceptions like > these are not known to everyone....those who do not know these > exceptions get carried away by the mangalik placement and reject the > alliance. Those who know the exceptions clear it! AS simple as > that....though the rules are universally applicable, the knowledge > of rules and exceptions is not universal among astrologers! > However, as Shri. Shridhar has said, presence of Rahu may give rise > to problems which should not be forgotten. Hence remedies for Rahu > should be undertaken, and the couple should consciously decide to > adjust with each other in an effort to make the marriage workeable. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic astrology, "mr_raj_kapoor" > <mr_raj_kapoor@> wrote: > > > > Thanks a lot for the advice. The problem is that I have taken this > > query to multiple gurus..with most of them rejecting the > > alliance..you are only the second person to have given the go > > ahead...I want to understand that if the rules of astrology are > > universal...then why most of the astrologers (five) have strongly > > rejected this alliance? Would you like to study the natal chart of > > Manglik person in detail..here are the details: > > > > ************************************************************* > > * * * * * * > > * * * LAGN * * * > > * * * (10) * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * > > * * * KET * * NEP* > > * * * * * * > > * 3 * * * * 11 * > > * * * * * * > > * * URA * > > * * * * 10 * * > > * * 4 * 7 * * * > > *SUN * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * MOO * RAH * * > > * * * * * * > > * * MER VEN* * * PLU * > > * 5 * * * MAR JUP SAT * 9 * > > * * * * * * > > ************************************************************* > > > > Regards, > > Raj > > > > vedic astrology, sridhar k <kopparsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj_Kapoor > > > Since Mars in 8th is with Saturn, the affliction is nuetralised. > > > Rahu in 7th, may give rise to some obstacles, which could be > > overcome, by prayer. > > > > > > > > > mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor@> > > wrote: Hi Guruji > > > > > > If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner not > > any, > > > what kind of problems can be expected? > > > > > > Afflicted person Natal chart: > > > > > > Mars in 8th house with Saturn > > > Rahu in 7th house > > > > > > Non-Afflicted person: > > > > > > Mars in 9th house > > > > > > Please advise..need help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternate email is raichurar@:Location Bombay India > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- > Phone > > call rates. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Respected Gurujis, the date-time below is for the same couple I have been referring to and not a new query..can you please confirm that apart from the Rahu aspect there is no other issue considering comparison of these kundalis..and you give a go-ahead for this alliance.. Regards, Raj vedic astrology, "mr_raj_kapoor" <mr_raj_kapoor wrote: > > My heartiest thanks to both Sri Sridhar & Sri Dakshinamoorthi...my > doubt is cleared now...can you please compare the 2 charts to > confirm whether this will be happy alliance...your advice will be > extremly helpful: > > Girl: > > 11 June 1980, 10:10 PM - Mumbai > > Boy: > > 18 Dec 1980, 2:10 PM - New Delhi > > Regards, > Raj > > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Raj Kapoor: > > > > What Shri. Shridhar has said is correct. When Mars is in > > conjunction with Saturn, the mangalik effect is neutralized. > > Moreover, in this horoscope, Jupiter is also conjunct Mars which > is > > another factor for cancelling Mars dosha. Rules and exceptions > like > > these are not known to everyone....those who do not know these > > exceptions get carried away by the mangalik placement and reject > the > > alliance. Those who know the exceptions clear it! AS simple as > > that....though the rules are universally applicable, the knowledge > > of rules and exceptions is not universal among astrologers! > > However, as Shri. Shridhar has said, presence of Rahu may give > rise > > to problems which should not be forgotten. Hence remedies for > Rahu > > should be undertaken, and the couple should consciously decide to > > adjust with each other in an effort to make the marriage workeable. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, "mr_raj_kapoor" > > <mr_raj_kapoor@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the advice. The problem is that I have taken > this > > > query to multiple gurus..with most of them rejecting the > > > alliance..you are only the second person to have given the go > > > ahead...I want to understand that if the rules of astrology are > > > universal...then why most of the astrologers (five) have > strongly > > > rejected this alliance? Would you like to study the natal chart > of > > > Manglik person in detail..here are the details: > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > * * * * * * > > > * * * LAGN * * * > > > * * * (10) * * * > > > * * * * * * > > > * * * * > > > * * * KET * * NEP* > > > * * * * * * > > > * 3 * * * * 11 * > > > * * * * * * > > > * * URA * > > > * * * * 10 * * > > > * * 4 * 7 * * * > > > *SUN * * * * * > > > * * * * * * > > > * MOO * RAH * * > > > * * * * * * > > > * * MER VEN* * * PLU * > > > * 5 * * * MAR JUP SAT * 9 * > > > * * * * * * > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > Regards, > > > Raj > > > > > > vedic astrology, sridhar k <kopparsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raj_Kapoor > > > > Since Mars in 8th is with Saturn, the affliction is > nuetralised. > > > > Rahu in 7th, may give rise to some obstacles, which could be > > > overcome, by prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor@> > > > wrote: Hi Guruji > > > > > > > > If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner > not > > > any, > > > > what kind of problems can be expected? > > > > > > > > Afflicted person Natal chart: > > > > > > > > Mars in 8th house with Saturn > > > > Rahu in 7th house > > > > > > > > Non-Afflicted person: > > > > > > > > Mars in 9th house > > > > > > > > Please advise..need help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternate email is raichurar@:Location Bombay India > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- > > Phone > > > call rates. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Om Sri gurave Namah! Dear Raj kapoor jee, "Manglik" this word infact has been blown out of proportion, There are many people, who would just look at the mars in 1,4,7,8,12 (some also take 2), positions and declare , manglik dosha, alliance is not recommended etc. One has to look into its position, its strength, its avastha, other planets/factors balancing it, not just its position, but as dakshinamoorthi and sridhar jee had already explained it is cancelled. To understand it better, Take level I from lagna Mars in lagna - because it aspects 7th house,7 & 8 - because they are related with spouse and marriage. In case of girl it is 8. Note Rahu - Ketu in 7-1, I think this has to be taken care of. prayer to durga. Level II Above given is one level. from moon and sun which is more important with regards to marriage, Moon & Sun in tula, so Ma, Sa, Ju in 4,house for relations. 1st, 2nd, 7th& 8th are fine, in fact 8 is aspected by Ve and Me. Rahu & Ma dhristi is also there. 7 lord is mars, 8 lord is Ju. Level III From UL, upapada, signifies marriage, spouse, and happiness there from/ UL is in Aries, lord is Mars( in 8, 7 of 9), 2nd( Mo & Sun), 7th and 8th are empty, lord of 7 is Ve, 8 is Mars. Level IV, Nakshatra, girl is Rohini, pada 1, Boy is Bharani, pada 2, for Rohini, bharani is mitra tara, and for bharani, rohini is vipata tara. Level V : Bhakut dosha, bhakut is for family growth and family welfare. Level VI: Mars status.Mars in P.Pha, a Mitra tara, Mars is weak and in kumar avastha, phala will be less than 50% Consolidate : Level I - Fine Manglik dosha if any? cancelled Level II- Fine, Pray for Rahu, current dasa is Rahu Level III- Fine Level IV- Little friction, Jupiter dasa from 2013 will be tough Level V- This a problem, ego clashes, happiness in terms of family growth. but if both persons involved understand each other, due to its fore knowledge, no problem. Level VI- No problem. Mars dasa is over, mars antara dasas are 1 year in rahu and Ju dasa. Other exceptions are, If girl proposes to boy- Need not consider manglik dosha, :-) Concept: A person with strong mars is like a warrior or chief of army, will try to control others, using anger, aggression, etc. if mars is weak, then it will be at a much lower level, or manageable. Other factors like: Varna, Vashya, Tara, yoni,gana and Nadi are good.graha maitri is OK Marriage is recommended but there will be ego clashes. Thanks! Om Namah Shivai! SPI mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor > wrote: My heartiest thanks to both Sri Sridhar & Sri Dakshinamoorthi...my doubt is cleared now...can you please compare the 2 charts to confirm whether this will be happy alliance...your advice will be extremly helpful: Girl: 11 June 1980, 10:10 PM - Mumbai Boy: 18 Dec 1980, 2:10 PM - New Delhi Regards, Raj vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Shri. Raj Kapoor: > > What Shri. Shridhar has said is correct. When Mars is in > conjunction with Saturn, the mangalik effect is neutralized. > Moreover, in this horoscope, Jupiter is also conjunct Mars which is > another factor for cancelling Mars dosha. Rules and exceptions like > these are not known to everyone....those who do not know these > exceptions get carried away by the mangalik placement and reject the > alliance. Those who know the exceptions clear it! AS simple as > that....though the rules are universally applicable, the knowledge > of rules and exceptions is not universal among astrologers! > However, as Shri. Shridhar has said, presence of Rahu may give rise > to problems which should not be forgotten. Hence remedies for Rahu > should be undertaken, and the couple should consciously decide to > adjust with each other in an effort to make the marriage workeable. > > Blessed be. > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > vedic astrology, "mr_raj_kapoor" > <mr_raj_kapoor@> wrote: > > > > Thanks a lot for the advice. The problem is that I have taken this > > query to multiple gurus..with most of them rejecting the > > alliance..you are only the second person to have given the go > > ahead...I want to understand that if the rules of astrology are > > universal...then why most of the astrologers (five) have strongly > > rejected this alliance? Would you like to study the natal chart of > > Manglik person in detail..here are the details: > > > > ************************************************************* > > * * * * * * > > * * * LAGN * * * > > * * * (10) * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * > > * * * KET * * NEP* > > * * * * * * > > * 3 * * * * 11 * > > * * * * * * > > * * URA * > > * * * * 10 * * > > * * 4 * 7 * * * > > *SUN * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * MOO * RAH * * > > * * * * * * > > * * MER VEN* * * PLU * > > * 5 * * * MAR JUP SAT * 9 * > > * * * * * * > > ************************************************************* > > > > Regards, > > Raj > > > > vedic astrology, sridhar k <kopparsa@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj_Kapoor > > > Since Mars in 8th is with Saturn, the affliction is nuetralised. > > > Rahu in 7th, may give rise to some obstacles, which could be > > overcome, by prayer. > > > > > > > > > mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor@> > > wrote: Hi Guruji > > > > > > If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner not > > any, > > > what kind of problems can be expected? > > > > > > Afflicted person Natal chart: > > > > > > Mars in 8th house with Saturn > > > Rahu in 7th house > > > > > > Non-Afflicted person: > > > > > > Mars in 9th house > > > > > > Please advise..need help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternate email is raichurar@:Location Bombay India > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- > Phone > > call rates. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Thanks a lot guruji..you have provided such a detailed analysis..I must say this is a great discussion forum and the guru jis who are analyzing the problems and giving advice are doing a great social service.. Aap sab ko mera pranaam! Best Regards Raj vedic astrology, Suri allam <ianianala wrote: > > Om Sri gurave Namah! > Dear Raj kapoor jee, > "Manglik" this word infact has been blown out of proportion, There are many people, who would just look at the mars in 1,4,7,8,12 (some also take 2), positions and declare , manglik dosha, alliance is not recommended etc. > One has to look into its position, its strength, its avastha, other planets/factors balancing it, not just its position, but as dakshinamoorthi and sridhar jee had already explained it is cancelled. > To understand it better, Take level I from lagna > Mars in lagna - because it aspects 7th house,7 & 8 - because they are related with spouse and marriage. In case of girl it is 8. > Note Rahu - Ketu in 7-1, I think this has to be taken care of. prayer to durga. > Level II > Above given is one level. from moon and sun which is more important with regards to marriage, > Moon & Sun in tula, so Ma, Sa, Ju in 4,house for relations. 1st, 2nd, 7th& 8th are fine, in fact 8 is aspected by Ve and Me. Rahu & Ma dhristi is also there. 7 lord is mars, 8 lord is Ju. > Level III From UL, upapada, signifies marriage, spouse, and happiness there from/ > UL is in Aries, lord is Mars( in 8, 7 of 9), 2nd( Mo & Sun), 7th and 8th are empty, lord of 7 is Ve, 8 is Mars. > Level IV, Nakshatra, girl is Rohini, pada 1, Boy is Bharani, pada 2, for Rohini, bharani is mitra tara, and for bharani, rohini is vipata tara. > Level V : Bhakut dosha, bhakut is for family growth and family welfare. > Level VI: Mars status.Mars in P.Pha, a Mitra tara, Mars is weak and in kumar avastha, phala will be less than 50% > Consolidate : > Level I - Fine Manglik dosha if any? cancelled > Level II- Fine, Pray for Rahu, current dasa is Rahu > Level III- Fine > Level IV- Little friction, Jupiter dasa from 2013 will be tough > Level V- This a problem, ego clashes, happiness in terms of family growth. but if both persons involved understand each other, due to its fore knowledge, no problem. > Level VI- No problem. Mars dasa is over, mars antara dasas are 1 year in rahu and Ju dasa. > Other exceptions are, > If girl proposes to boy- Need not consider manglik dosha, :-) > Concept: A person with strong mars is like a warrior or chief of army, will try to control others, using anger, aggression, etc. if mars is weak, then it will be at a much lower level, or manageable. > Other factors like: Varna, Vashya, Tara, yoni,gana and Nadi are good.graha maitri is OK > Marriage is recommended but there will be ego clashes. > Thanks! > Om Namah Shivai! > SPI > > mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor wrote: > My heartiest thanks to both Sri Sridhar & Sri Dakshinamoorthi...my > doubt is cleared now...can you please compare the 2 charts to > confirm whether this will be happy alliance...your advice will be > extremly helpful: > > Girl: > > 11 June 1980, 10:10 PM - Mumbai > > Boy: > > 18 Dec 1980, 2:10 PM - New Delhi > > Regards, > Raj > > vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri. Raj Kapoor: > > > > What Shri. Shridhar has said is correct. When Mars is in > > conjunction with Saturn, the mangalik effect is neutralized. > > Moreover, in this horoscope, Jupiter is also conjunct Mars which > is > > another factor for cancelling Mars dosha. Rules and exceptions > like > > these are not known to everyone....those who do not know these > > exceptions get carried away by the mangalik placement and reject > the > > alliance. Those who know the exceptions clear it! AS simple as > > that....though the rules are universally applicable, the knowledge > > of rules and exceptions is not universal among astrologers! > > However, as Shri. Shridhar has said, presence of Rahu may give > rise > > to problems which should not be forgotten. Hence remedies for > Rahu > > should be undertaken, and the couple should consciously decide to > > adjust with each other in an effort to make the marriage workeable. > > > > Blessed be. > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > vedic astrology, "mr_raj_kapoor" > > <mr_raj_kapoor@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the advice. The problem is that I have taken > this > > > query to multiple gurus..with most of them rejecting the > > > alliance..you are only the second person to have given the go > > > ahead...I want to understand that if the rules of astrology are > > > universal...then why most of the astrologers (five) have > strongly > > > rejected this alliance? Would you like to study the natal chart > of > > > Manglik person in detail..here are the details: > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > * * * * * * > > > * * * LAGN * * * > > > * * * (10) * * * > > > * * * * * * > > > * * * * > > > * * * KET * * NEP* > > > * * * * * * > > > * 3 * * * * 11 * > > > * * * * * * > > > * * URA * > > > * * * * 10 * * > > > * * 4 * 7 * * * > > > *SUN * * * * * > > > * * * * * * > > > * MOO * RAH * * > > > * * * * * * > > > * * MER VEN* * * PLU * > > > * 5 * * * MAR JUP SAT * 9 * > > > * * * * * * > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > Regards, > > > Raj > > > > > > vedic astrology, sridhar k <kopparsa@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raj_Kapoor > > > > Since Mars in 8th is with Saturn, the affliction is > nuetralised. > > > > Rahu in 7th, may give rise to some obstacles, which could be > > > overcome, by prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > mr_raj_kapoor <mr_raj_kapoor@> > > > wrote: Hi Guruji > > > > > > > > If a person has a strong Manglik affliction and the partner > not > > > any, > > > > what kind of problems can be expected? > > > > > > > > Afflicted person Natal chart: > > > > > > > > Mars in 8th house with Saturn > > > > Rahu in 7th house > > > > > > > > Non-Afflicted person: > > > > > > > > Mars in 9th house > > > > > > > > Please advise..need help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alternate email is raichurar@:Location Bombay India > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? 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