Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. Badhak is also part of the story, and is the Atma sees something as badhak it does show up as a weakness in the individual, but the MKS placement is much much worse. Even if the Brahmin shaapa is remedied, the inherent error in the atma doesn't go away and the financial problem continues. In fact a trait these people will carry is an inherent tendency to reject money or wealth at first glance, but after thinking about it they will accept the same. Please go through the other charts i had embedded. Yours, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: > > Dear visti, > well so logic boils down to Jupiters placement in Seventh from AK > Mercury.Why we can not see it as Badhak w.r.t AK.Why remedy for badhak > not justified.Which adversity is of overwhelming importance.Why brahma > shaap be not remedied first.AK mooldasa is current?. > Now please answer only if it pleasant and my thinking is logical.I am > wondering why fourth from Mer be seen? > Rest i will ask when i work out teaching of serbia. > OM TAT SAT > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > Just as Jupiter does not like to be placed in the third house, so also > will he reject any planets, arudha, etc. placed in the third house > from him. Similarly reckon from the other planets. > This becomes extremely relevant from the atmakaraka, as if the > self/atma rejects something, then the person will not see that in > their life. Also if other karakas reject the atma another problem arises. > In this case the atmakaraka is Mercury, and so we must see the fourth > and seventh houses from Mercury. In this case jupiter (naisargika > dhana karaka) and Dara karaka (karaka for second house and wealth > according to parasara), is placed in such a malignant place from > Mercury thus causing financial problems. Now, the darakaraka and > matrikaraka are said to be our mother or devi shakti. To remedy these > problems he needs to worship Tara-devi, but the remedy for Brahmin > Shapa is not Tara worship. > > I have pasted two more charts with problems related to MKS below: > Natal Chart > August 17, 1971 > Time: 4:30:00 am > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 92 W 28' 00", 15 N 09' 00" > Huixtla, Mexico > \ | | / > \ | | / > \ AL | GL | / > \ | | / > Ch \ Sa | | Md / Gk > \ | | / > HL \ | | / > \ | | / > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > | | > Lg Sk | | MaR Ra > Ke | | > | Rasi | > | | > | | > | | > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > / | | \ > BuR / | | \ > / | | \ > Sy / | | Gu \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > Lagna 9 Kark 53' 34.02" Push 2 Kark Kanya > Surya - DK 0 Simh 24' 45.35" Magh 1 Simh Mesh > Chandra - BK 19 Mith 52' 53.91" Ardr 4 Mith Meen > Mangala ® - AmK 21 Makar 40' 35.93" Srav 4 Makar Kark > Budha ® - MK 16 Simh 06' 12.98" PPha 1 Simh Simh > Guru - GK 3 Vrisch 58' 14.56" Anu 1 Vrisch Simh > Sukra - AK 27 Kark 34' 47.45" Asre 4 Kark Meen > Sani - PiK 12 Vrish 07' 15.53" Rohi 1 Vrish Mesh > Rahu - PK 20 Makar 24' 01.54" Srav 4 Makar Kark > Ketu 20 Kark 24' 01.54" Asre 2 Kark Makar > > In the given chart, the Sun is the second lord and chara darakaraka, > and the twelfth from it has the atmakaraka Venus. AK-Venus is also in > MKS from tenth lord and amatyakaraka Mars. There is also a curse of > spouse in the chart. > Using Lagna-Vimsottari, during Venus-Venus Dasa, the person married, > but due to complications with his mother (fourth lord Venus) he lost > his job (amatyakaraka) and found himself in a tight bind financially. > He was advised to worship Tryambakeshvara to fix the problem, with the > promise to also worship Kamalatmika subsequently. > > Natal Chart > January 29, 1961 > Time: 2:10:00 am > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 81 E 42' 00", 16 N 45' 00" > Tanuku, India > \ | | / > \ | | / > \ | | / > \ | | / > Ch \ | | Sk / Bu > \ | | / > MaR \ | | / GL Ke > \ | | / > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > | | > | | Sy AL > | | > | Rasi | > | | > | | > | | > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > / | | \ > / | Md | \ Sa > / | | \ > Ra / HL | | Lg \ Gu > / | | \ > / Gk | | \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > Lagna 11 Vrisch 32' 04.73" Anu 3 Vrisch Tula > Surya - MK 15 Makar 24' 26.17" Srav 2 Makar Vrish > Chandra - PiK 13 Mith 47' 02.45" Ardr 3 Mith Kumbh > Mangala ® - PK 7 Mith 07' 10.39" Ardr 1 Mith Dhanu > Budha - DK 0 Kumbh 29' 33.90" Dhan 3 Kumbh Tula > Guru - AmK 27 Dhanu 14' 07.05" USha 1 Dhanu Dhanu > Sukra - GK 2 Meen 20' 53.01" PBha 4 Meen Kark > Sani - AK 29 Dhanu 33' 31.51" USha 1 Dhanu Dhanu > Rahu - BK 14 Simh 33' 22.95" PPha 1 Simh Simh > Ketu 14 Kumbh 33' 22.95" Sata 3 Kumbh Kumbh > > In this chart, Shani the atmakaraka is joined Guru. Guru is second > lord, darakaraka and naisargika dhanakaraka all relating to finances. > During Shukra-Shani dasa the persons finances were in the red. > Yours sincerely, > Visti Larsen > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > swami wrote: >> Dear visti, >> Thanks for prompt reply. >> Please see below, >> Yes Marankarka sthana of Mercury is in VII, but in this chart >> AK Mercury is in Gemni in X and Jup the DK Retrograde is in IV from >> Lagna and VII th from AK..How we say Jupier the DK is in MKS?It is >> neither so from Ak nor from Lagna . >> On similar logic worship of Tara is fine as Darakarka is Jupiter,My >> point is Jupietr The DK is not in MKS From AK. >> IN THIS CASE MONEY CAN NOT BE SAID TO HAVE BEEN REJECTED IN PAST >> BIRTH BY ATMA. >> Since tara is the shakti of Jupiter the guru so worship could >> eliminate the effect of Brahma shaap ?.This can not be logic.Parashar >> has prescribed different remedies for Brahma shaap.Isnt IT? >> If something is still beyond my undestanding it is worth correction , >> but i can make querry after i go through once again the serbia >> teachings. >> With regards. >> R.C.Srivastava >> htto://www.cosmogra ce.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > ** Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > *To:* > <> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:26 PM > *Subject:* Marana Karaka Sthana (Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For > Financial Crisis) > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > Just as Jupiter does not like to be placed in the third house, so > also will he reject any planets, arudha, etc. placed in the third > house from him. Similarly reckon from the other planets. > This becomes extremely relevant from the atmakaraka, as if the > self/atma rejects something, then the person will not see that in > their life. Also if other karakas reject the atma another problem > arises. > In this case the atmakaraka is Mercury, and so we must see the > fourth and seventh houses from Mercury. In this case jupiter > (naisargika dhana karaka) and Dara karaka (karaka for second house > and wealth according to parasara), is placed in such a malignant > place from Mercury thus causing financial problems. Now, the > darakaraka and matrikaraka are said to be our mother or devi > shakti. To remedy these problems he needs to worship Tara-devi, > but the remedy for Brahmin Shapa is not Tara worship. > > I have pasted two more charts with problems related to MKS below: > Natal Chart > August 17, 1971 > Time: 4:30:00 am > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 92 W 28' 00", 15 N 09' 00" > Huixtla, Mexico > \ | | / > \ | | / > \ AL | GL | / > \ | | / > Ch \ Sa | | Md / Gk > \ | | / > HL \ | | / > \ | | / > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > | | > Lg Sk | | MaR Ra > Ke | | > | Rasi | > | | > | | > | | > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > / | | \ > BuR / | | \ > / | | \ > Sy / | | Gu \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > Lagna 9 Kark 53' 34.02" Push 2 Kark Kanya > Surya - DK 0 Simh 24' 45.35" Magh 1 Simh Mesh > Chandra - BK 19 Mith 52' 53.91" Ardr 4 Mith Meen > Mangala ® - AmK 21 Makar 40' 35.93" Srav 4 Makar Kark > Budha ® - MK 16 Simh 06' 12.98" PPha 1 Simh Simh > Guru - GK 3 Vrisch 58' 14.56" Anu 1 Vrisch Simh > Sukra - AK 27 Kark 34' 47.45" Asre 4 Kark Meen > Sani - PiK 12 Vrish 07' 15.53" Rohi 1 Vrish Mesh > Rahu - PK 20 Makar 24' 01.54" Srav 4 Makar Kark > Ketu 20 Kark 24' 01.54" Asre 2 Kark Makar > > In the given chart, the Sun is the second lord and chara > darakaraka, and the twelfth from it has the atmakaraka Venus. > AK-Venus is also in MKS from tenth lord and amatyakaraka Mars. > There is also a curse of spouse in the chart. > Using Lagna-Vimsottari, during Venus-Venus Dasa, the person > married, but due to complications with his mother (fourth lord > Venus) he lost his job (amatyakaraka) and found himself in a tight > bind financially. He was advised to worship Tryambakeshvara to fix > the problem, with the promise to also worship Kamalatmika > subsequently. > > Natal Chart > January 29, 1961 > Time: 2:10:00 am > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 81 E 42' 00", 16 N 45' 00" > Tanuku, India > \ | | / > \ | | / > \ | | / > \ | | / > Ch \ | | Sk / Bu > \ | | / > MaR \ | | / GL Ke > \ | | / > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > | | > | | Sy AL > | | > | Rasi | > | | > | | > | | > ------------ ----+---- --------- --+------ --------- - > / | | \ > / | Md | \ Sa > / | | \ > Ra / HL | | Lg \ Gu > / | | \ > / Gk | | \ > / | | \ > / | | \ > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > Lagna 11 Vrisch 32' 04.73" Anu 3 Vrisch Tula > Surya - MK 15 Makar 24' 26.17" Srav 2 Makar Vrish > Chandra - PiK 13 Mith 47' 02.45" Ardr 3 Mith Kumbh > Mangala ® - PK 7 Mith 07' 10.39" Ardr 1 Mith Dhanu > Budha - DK 0 Kumbh 29' 33.90" Dhan 3 Kumbh Tula > Guru - AmK 27 Dhanu 14' 07.05" USha 1 Dhanu Dhanu > Sukra - GK 2 Meen 20' 53.01" PBha 4 Meen Kark > Sani - AK 29 Dhanu 33' 31.51" USha 1 Dhanu Dhanu > Rahu - BK 14 Simh 33' 22.95" PPha 1 Simh Simh > Ketu 14 Kumbh 33' 22.95" Sata 3 Kumbh Kumbh > > In this chart, Shani the atmakaraka is joined Guru. Guru is second > lord, darakaraka and naisargika dhanakaraka all relating to > finances. During Shukra-Shani dasa the persons finances were in > the red. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > swami wrote: >> Dear visti, >> Thanks for prompt reply. >> Please see below, >> Yes Marankarka sthana of Mercury is in VII, but in this chart >> AK Mercury is in Gemni in X and Jup the DK Retrograde is in IV >> from Lagna and VII th from AK..How we say Jupier the DK is in >> MKS?It is neither so from Ak nor from Lagna . >> On similar logic worship of Tara is fine as Darakarka is >> Jupiter,My point is Jupietr The DK is not in MKS From AK. >> IN THIS CASE MONEY CAN NOT BE SAID TO HAVE BEEN REJECTED IN PAST >> BIRTH BY ATMA. >> Since tara is the shakti of Jupiter the guru so worship could >> eliminate the effect of Brahma shaap ?.This can not be >> logic.Parashar has prescribed different remedies for Brahma >> shaap.Isnt IT? >> If something is still beyond my undestanding it is worth >> correction , but i can make querry after i go through once again >> the serbia teachings. >> With regards. >> R.C.Srivastava >> htto://www.cosmogra ce.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> ** Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> *To:* >> <> >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:16 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis >> >> |Hare Rama Krsna| >> Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. >> The Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury is also the seventh >> house, is it not? >> So the atma itself has rejected money in past lives and this >> is the problem. To improve the atma's understanding of the >> problem we worship the Shakti/mahavidya of the darakaraka >> itself. Similarly we worship Shiva for the problems faced by >> the atmakaraka. >> This was taught in the lectures on Darakaraka and Atmakaraka >> during the Serbia 2005 conference. >> Yours sincerely, >> >> Visti Larsen >> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> >> >> >> >> swami wrote: >>> Dear visti, >>> Namskar, >>> >>> Usually now after compilation I study cases discussed. I am >>> pasting part of discussion in case titled For financial crisis. >>> >>> Q."Hi All Astrologers I am suffering from great financial >>> crisis, please analyze my chart and tell the cause, how long >>> i will have to suffer and any remedial measures to mitigate >>> the crisis. My Data is as follows >>> D.O.B- 31/July/1960 Time- 11-10 AMIST Place- Delhi India >>> Thank You >>> >>> A.Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being placed in >>> Marana Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani-Guru >>> dasa is running. This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. >>> >>> My query is >>> >>> 1. I do not find Guru the dara karka in marankarka sthana >>> from AK( mercury). It is in marka sthan i.e. VII? >>> >>> Rest of discussion is fine.can you please correct my >>> understanding. >>> 2.Wherein the concept of reckoning MKS from AK is >>> described/taught in SJC teachings.Please hint so that i can >>> study in deatil. >>> Here in instant case What is predominant. Brahma Shaapa or >>> the said MKS of Jup from AK, >>> How Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems will be >>> effective and Brahma shaapa is going to be eliminated by >>> Tara worship. >>> With kind regards. >>> R.C.Srivastava >>> http://www.cosmogra ce.com <http://www.cosmograce.com> >>> >>> - >>> ** Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >>> *To:* >>> <> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:56 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis >>> >>> |Hare Rama Krsna| >>> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. >>> The mula dasa calculations are correct, but i have also >>> used vimsottari dasa to see when the person will have >>> 'mental relief'. >>> Yours sincerely, >>> >>> Visti Larsen >>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: >>>> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || >>>> >>>> Dear Visti, Namaskar, >>>> >>>> Sorry to come back on this. >>>> >>>> I think I found the option in the software it, does it >>>> match with your working? >>>> >>>> >>>> Maha Dasas: >>>> >>>> Jup: 1960-07-31 (11:10:00) - 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) >>>> Sat: 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) - 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) >>>> Merc: 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) - 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) >>>> Mars: 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) - 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) >>>> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) >>>> >>>> Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): >>>> >>>> Rah MD: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) >>>> >>>> Antardasas in this MD: >>>> >>>> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) >>>> Ket: 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) - 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) >>>> Ven: 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) - 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) >>>> Sun: 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) - 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) >>>> Moon: 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) - 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) >>>> Jup: 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) - 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) >>>> Sat: 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) - 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) >>>> Merc: 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) - 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) >>>> Mars: 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) >>>> >>>> 1. Rahu-Saturn as you can see goes upto 2008. So there >>>> is some difference in your calculations from that in >>>> the software! >>>> 2. Is the imact of curse to be seen in specific MD and >>>> AD period, not the entire MD? >>>> 3 Mars placement to its MTK sign is 12 houses, less 1 >>>> is 11. Vimsottari dasa period is 7 years, so 7-11 is >>>> -4. Is it ok to take the Moola dasa period as 4? >>>> >>>> Best Wishes , >>>> */Ramesh/* >>>> >>>> >>>> ** >>>> [srijagannat h ] *On Behalf Of >>>> *Visti Larsen >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:22 AM >>>> *To:* >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis >>>> >>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| >>>> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. >>>> According to my calculations (i only use the lagna as >>>> seed) the dasa is of Rahu-Shani in the Mula dasa, but i >>>> may be biased towards the paramparas teachings. >>>> Yours sincerely, >>>> >>>> Visti Larsen >>>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >>>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: >>>>> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || >>>>> >>>>> Dear Visti, Namsakar >>>>> Moola dasa of Saturn got over on 1st Aug 2006. Is >>>>> there a reason for Shapa effect going into Merc-Merc >>>>> dasa? >>>>> Best Wishes , >>>>> */Ramesh/* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> [srijagannat h ] *On Behalf Of >>>>> *Visti Larsen >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:16 AM >>>>> *To:* >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis >>>>> >>>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| >>>>> Dear JL, Namaskar. >>>>> All curses require the influence of two malefics on >>>>> another graha to constitute a curse/shaapa. >>>>> Brahmin Shaapa generally does cause a bit of wandering >>>>> in life as the Guru/Dhi or Jupiter is lacking. Such >>>>> people seek gurus to overcome this problem. >>>>> But there can be some allied problems with the curse >>>>> like problems with children (putrakaraka) , husband >>>>> (in charts of ladies), etc. Also the house and >>>>> lordship of Jupiter must be taken into consideration >>>>> to announce all the results associated. >>>>> The dasa to give troubles must be picked from Mula >>>>> dasa, and Pt. Sanjay Rath wrote an extensive article >>>>> on this which Sourav can help you find. >>>>> Yours sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> Visti Larsen >>>>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >>>>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> JL wrote: >>>>>> Dear Guruji, >>>>>> Sadar Pranaam, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have one doubt to ask you in many charts, >>>>>> combination of Saturn and Jupiter is there primarily >>>>>> in 2nd house and 6th some cases.(seen cases are of >>>>>> Leo Lagna in virgo and Aries Lagna in virgo ) >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this combination of Bramhin shapa , in which dasa >>>>>> would this curse trouble the native , i guess saturn. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bramhin shapa results in wandering here and there >>>>>> with no future I learnt. >>>>>> Can you give some comment?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>> JL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >>>>>> <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| >>>>>> Dear Sir, Namaskar. >>>>>> Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being >>>>>> placed in Marana Karaka Sthana from your >>>>>> Atmakaraka, as Shani-Guru dasa is running. This >>>>>> is also a Brahmin Shaapa. >>>>>> This will be over by 2007 September, but for now >>>>>> you must worship Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome >>>>>> these problems. >>>>>> To begin with recite 'Om Tarayai Namah' 3x 108 >>>>>> times a day and look for a priest who can perform >>>>>> a Tara puja for you or initiate you into the >>>>>> mantra. Begin this from a wednesday night. >>>>>> Yours sincerely, >>>>>> >>>>>> Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> drramankapur wrote: >>>>>>> Hi All Astrologers >>>>>>> I am suffering from great financial >>>>>>> crisis,please analyse my chart and >>>>>>> tell the cause,how long i will have to suffer >>>>>>> and any remedial >>>>>>> measures to mitigate the crisis.My Biop Data is >>>>>>> as follows >>>>>>> >>>>>>> D.O.B- 31/July/1960 >>>>>>> Time- 11-10 AMIST >>>>>>> Place- Delhi India >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank You >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 >>>>>> Fuel Price Watch: Find the cheapest petrol in your >>>>>> area >>>>>> <http://au.rd./mail/tag/fuelpricewatch/**http%3A%2F%2Fau.maps.%2Ffuelwatch%2F> >>>>>> >>> > 7 > 31 > 1960 > 11.100000 > -5.300000 > -77.130000 > 28.400000 > 0.000000 > -5.500000 > -5.500000 > 0 > 105 > Delhi > India > 1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Dear supriti, Namaskar, Please relax.Your input is actually welcome.You were fine in expression of your experience, perhaps i could not express myself in better way.. Thanks. - supriti108 Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:38 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Swami ji, I am so sorry I did not mean to imply that you doubted Visti ji's teachings. I was just too eager to talk about my experiences, because after reading Visti ji's writings I finally understood the meaning behind his recommendation. Regards Supriti , "swami" <swami_rcs wrote: > > Dear Supriti, > Thanks for your additional inputs.I never doubted teachings of Visti ji.I wanted to learn and am delighted to know one more principal observation .Now i have to apply and understand its correct meaning.I have gone through serbia teachings in the mean time but has to still apply in few more cases, before i am convinced to what is taught. > Thanks , your addition reinforces that remedies work and worth study. > - > supriti108 > > Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:00 PM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > Dear Srivastva ji, > > I wanted to add my testament to Visti ji's analysis. > > I have Mo conjunct Sa in my chart, so Moon(children, mind) is in MKS > to AK. When my daughter was about 2, I always felt like she rejected > me. Normally children cling to their mothers, but my daughter showed > no interest in me. I was extremely depressed. It was very painful > for me. > > I got my atmalinga mantra in my dream and without me communicating > that to Visti ji, he suggested I do the same. It was a miracle!! By > the grace of Shiva and Ma Durga, the problem is completely solved. > > May Mahadeva and Ma Durga shower their blessings on all of us. > > Regards > Supriti > > , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > The Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury is also the seventh house, is > it not? > > So the atma itself has rejected money in past lives and this is the > > problem. To improve the atma's understanding of the problem we > worship > > the Shakti/mahavidya of the darakaraka itself. Similarly we worship > > Shiva for the problems faced by the atmakaraka. > > This was taught in the lectures on Darakaraka and Atmakaraka during > the > > Serbia 2005 conference. > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Visti Larsen > > Email: visti@ > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > Dear visti, > > > Namskar, > > > > > > Usually now after compilation I study cases discussed. I am > pasting > > > part of discussion in case titled For financial crisis. > > > > > > Q."Hi All Astrologers I am suffering from great financial crisis, > > > please analyze my chart and tell the cause, how long i will have > to > > > suffer and any remedial measures to mitigate the crisis. My Data > is as > > > follows > > > D.O.B- 31/July/1960 Time- 11-10 AMIST Place- Delhi India Thank > You > > > > > > A.Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being placed in > Marana > > > Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani-Guru dasa is > running. > > > This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > > > My query is > > > > > > 1. I do not find Guru the dara karka in marankarka sthana from AK > ( > > > mercury). It is in marka sthan i.e. VII? > > > > > > Rest of discussion is fine.can you please correct my > understanding. > > > 2.Wherein the concept of reckoning MKS from AK is > described/taught in > > > SJC teachings.Please hint so that i can study in deatil. > > > Here in instant case What is predominant. Brahma Shaapa or the > said > > > MKS of Jup from AK, > > > How Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems will be > effective > > > and Brahma shaapa is going to be eliminated by Tara worship. > > > With kind regards. > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > http://www.cosmogra ce.com <http://www.cosmograce.com> > > > > > > - > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > *To:* > > > <> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:56 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > The mula dasa calculations are correct, but i have also used > > > vimsottari dasa to see when the person will have 'mental > relief'. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > >> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > >> > > >> Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > >> > > >> Sorry to come back on this. > > >> > > >> I think I found the option in the software it, does it match > with > > >> your working? > > >> > > >> > > >> Maha Dasas: > > >> > > >> Jup: 1960-07-31 (11:10:00) - 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) > > >> Sat: 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) - 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) > > >> Merc: 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) - 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) > > >> Mars: 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) - 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > >> > > >> Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > > >> > > >> Rah MD: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > >> > > >> Antardasas in this MD: > > >> > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) > > >> Ket: 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) - 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) > > >> Ven: 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) - 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) > > >> Sun: 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) - 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) > > >> Moon: 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) - 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) > > >> Jup: 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) - 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) > > >> Sat: 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) - 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) > > >> Merc: 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) - 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) > > >> Mars: 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > >> > > >> 1. Rahu-Saturn as you can see goes upto 2008. So there is > some > > >> difference in your calculations from that in the software! > > >> 2. Is the imact of curse to be seen in specific MD and AD > period, > > >> not the entire MD? > > >> 3 Mars placement to its MTK sign is 12 houses, less 1 is > > >> 11. Vimsottari dasa period is 7 years, so 7-11 is -4. Is it > ok to > > >> take the Moola dasa period as 4? > > >> > > >> Best Wishes , > > >> */Ramesh/* > > >> > > >> > > >> ** [srijagannat > > >> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:22 AM > > >> *To:* > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > >> > > >> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > >> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > >> According to my calculations (i only use the lagna as seed) > the > > >> dasa is of Rahu-Shani in the Mula dasa, but i may be biased > > >> towards the paramparas teachings. > > >> Yours sincerely, > > >> > > >> Visti Larsen > > >> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > >> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > >> > > >> > > >> Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > >>> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > >>> > > >>> Dear Visti, Namsakar > > >>> Moola dasa of Saturn got over on 1st Aug 2006. Is there a > reason > > >>> for Shapa effect going into Merc-Merc dasa? > > >>> Best Wishes , > > >>> */Ramesh/* > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ** [srijagannat > > >>> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:16 AM > > >>> *To:* > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > >>> > > >>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > >>> Dear JL, Namaskar. > > >>> All curses require the influence of two malefics on another > > >>> graha to constitute a curse/shaapa. > > >>> Brahmin Shaapa generally does cause a bit of wandering in > life > > >>> as the Guru/Dhi or Jupiter is lacking. Such people seek > gurus to > > >>> overcome this problem. > > >>> But there can be some allied problems with the curse like > > >>> problems with children (putrakaraka) , husband (in charts of > > >>> ladies), etc. Also the house and lordship of Jupiter must be > > >>> taken into consideration to announce all the results > associated. > > >>> The dasa to give troubles must be picked from Mula dasa, > and Pt. > > >>> Sanjay Rath wrote an extensive article on this which Sourav > can > > >>> help you find. > > >>> Yours sincerely, > > >>> > > >>> Visti Larsen > > >>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > >>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> JL wrote: > > >>>> Dear Guruji, > > >>>> Sadar Pranaam, > > >>>> > > >>>> I have one doubt to ask you in many charts, combination of > > >>>> Saturn and Jupiter is there primarily in 2nd house and 6th > some > > >>>> cases.(seen cases are of Leo Lagna in virgo and Aries > Lagna in > > >>>> virgo ) > > >>>> > > >>>> Is this combination of Bramhin shapa , in which dasa would > this > > >>>> curse trouble the native , i guess saturn. > > >>>> > > >>>> Bramhin shapa results in wandering here and there with no > > >>>> future I learnt. > > >>>> Can you give some comment?? > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks in advance. > > >>>> > > >>>> Kind Regards, > > >>>> JL > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > >>>> <visti@>/* wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > >>>> Dear Sir, Namaskar. > > >>>> Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being > placed in > > >>>> Marana Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani- > Guru > > >>>> dasa is running. This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > >>>> This will be over by 2007 September, but for now you > must > > >>>> worship Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems. > > >>>> To begin with recite 'Om Tarayai Namah' 3x 108 times a > day > > >>>> and look for a priest who can perform a Tara puja for > you > > >>>> or initiate you into the mantra. Begin this from a > > >>>> wednesday night. > > >>>> Yours sincerely, > > >>>> > > >>>> Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > <visti@> For Consultations and Articles visit: > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> drramankapur wrote: > > >>>>> Hi All Astrologers > > >>>>> I am suffering from great financial crisis,please > analyse > > >>>>> my chart and > > >>>>> tell the cause,how long i will have to suffer and any > > >>>>> remedial > > >>>>> measures to mitigate the crisis.My Biop Data is as > follows > > >>>>> > > >>>>> D.O.B- 31/July/1960 > > >>>>> Time- 11-10 AMIST > > >>>>> Place- Delhi India > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thank You > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 7 > > >>>> Fuel Price Watch: Find the cheapest petrol in your area > > >>>> <http://au.rd./mail/tag/fuelpricewatch/**http%3A% > 2F%2Fau.maps.%2Ffuelwatch%2F> > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Supriti, Just curious, how can Sat and Moon be in MKS 'from your AK '? As far as I know this isnt the proper use of MKS. MKS is a placement of a planet in a specific HOUSE from lagna.and isnt seen any other way. Saturn is in MKS in the lagna, and Moon is in MKS in the 8th house. Perhaps you meant something else? Best Wishes Lakshmi , "supriti108" <supriti108 wrote: > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > Dear Swami ji, > > I am so sorry I did not mean to imply that you doubted Visti ji's > teachings. I was just too eager to talk about my experiences, > because after reading Visti ji's writings I finally understood the > meaning behind his recommendation. > > Regards > Supriti > > , "swami" <swami_rcs@> wrote: > > > > Dear Supriti, > > Thanks for your additional inputs.I never doubted teachings of > Visti ji.I wanted to learn and am delighted to know one more > principal observation .Now i have to apply and understand its correct > meaning.I have gone through serbia teachings in the mean time but has > to still apply in few more cases, before i am convinced to what is > taught. > > Thanks , your addition reinforces that remedies work and worth > study. > > - > > supriti108 > > > > Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:00 PM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Srivastva ji, > > > > I wanted to add my testament to Visti ji's analysis. > > > > I have Mo conjunct Sa in my chart, so Moon(children, mind) is in > MKS > > to AK. When my daughter was about 2, I always felt like she > rejected > > me. Normally children cling to their mothers, but my daughter > showed > > no interest in me. I was extremely depressed. It was very painful > > for me. > > > > I got my atmalinga mantra in my dream and without me > communicating > > that to Visti ji, he suggested I do the same. It was a miracle!! > By > > the grace of Shiva and Ma Durga, the problem is completely solved. > > > > May Mahadeva and Ma Durga shower their blessings on all of us. > > > > Regards > > Supriti > > > > , Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > The Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury is also the seventh house, > is > > it not? > > > So the atma itself has rejected money in past lives and this is > the > > > problem. To improve the atma's understanding of the problem we > > worship > > > the Shakti/mahavidya of the darakaraka itself. Similarly we > worship > > > Shiva for the problems faced by the atmakaraka. > > > This was taught in the lectures on Darakaraka and Atmakaraka > during > > the > > > Serbia 2005 conference. > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > Email: visti@ > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear visti, > > > > Namskar, > > > > > > > > Usually now after compilation I study cases discussed. I am > > pasting > > > > part of discussion in case titled For financial crisis. > > > > > > > > Q."Hi All Astrologers I am suffering from great financial > crisis, > > > > please analyze my chart and tell the cause, how long i will > have > > to > > > > suffer and any remedial measures to mitigate the crisis. My > Data > > is as > > > > follows > > > > D.O.B- 31/July/1960 Time- 11-10 AMIST Place- Delhi India > Thank > > You > > > > > > > > A.Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being placed in > > Marana > > > > Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani-Guru dasa is > > running. > > > > This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > > > > > My query is > > > > > > > > 1. I do not find Guru the dara karka in marankarka sthana > from AK > > ( > > > > mercury). It is in marka sthan i.e. VII? > > > > > > > > Rest of discussion is fine.can you please correct my > > understanding. > > > > 2.Wherein the concept of reckoning MKS from AK is > > described/taught in > > > > SJC teachings.Please hint so that i can study in deatil. > > > > Here in instant case What is predominant. Brahma Shaapa or > the > > said > > > > MKS of Jup from AK, > > > > How Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems will be > > effective > > > > and Brahma shaapa is going to be eliminated by Tara worship. > > > > With kind regards. > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > http://www.cosmogra ce.com <http://www.cosmograce.com> > > > > > > > > - > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > > *To:* > > > > <> > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:56 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > > The mula dasa calculations are correct, but i have also used > > > > vimsottari dasa to see when the person will have 'mental > > relief'. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > >> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > >> > > > >> Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > >> > > > >> Sorry to come back on this. > > > >> > > > >> I think I found the option in the software it, does it match > > with > > > >> your working? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Maha Dasas: > > > >> > > > >> Jup: 1960-07-31 (11:10:00) - 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) > > > >> Sat: 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) - 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) > > > >> Merc: 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) - 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) > > > >> Mars: 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) - 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > >> > > > >> Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > > > >> > > > >> Rah MD: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > >> > > > >> Antardasas in this MD: > > > >> > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) > > > >> Ket: 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) - 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) > > > >> Ven: 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) - 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) > > > >> Sun: 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) - 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) > > > >> Moon: 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) - 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) > > > >> Jup: 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) - 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) > > > >> Sat: 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) - 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) > > > >> Merc: 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) - 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) > > > >> Mars: 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > >> > > > >> 1. Rahu-Saturn as you can see goes upto 2008. So there is > > some > > > >> difference in your calculations from that in the software! > > > >> 2. Is the imact of curse to be seen in specific MD and AD > > period, > > > >> not the entire MD? > > > >> 3 Mars placement to its MTK sign is 12 houses, less 1 is > > > >> 11. Vimsottari dasa period is 7 years, so 7-11 is -4. Is it > > ok to > > > >> take the Moola dasa period as 4? > > > >> > > > >> Best Wishes , > > > >> */Ramesh/* > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ** [srijagannat > > > >> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:22 AM > > > >> *To:* > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > >> > > > >> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > >> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > >> According to my calculations (i only use the lagna as seed) > > the > > > >> dasa is of Rahu-Shani in the Mula dasa, but i may be biased > > > >> towards the paramparas teachings. > > > >> Yours sincerely, > > > >> > > > >> Visti Larsen > > > >> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > >> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > >>> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Visti, Namsakar > > > >>> Moola dasa of Saturn got over on 1st Aug 2006. Is there a > > reason > > > >>> for Shapa effect going into Merc-Merc dasa? > > > >>> Best Wishes , > > > >>> */Ramesh/* > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ** [srijagannat > > > >>> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:16 AM > > > >>> *To:* > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > >>> > > > >>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > >>> Dear JL, Namaskar. > > > >>> All curses require the influence of two malefics on another > > > >>> graha to constitute a curse/shaapa. > > > >>> Brahmin Shaapa generally does cause a bit of wandering in > > life > > > >>> as the Guru/Dhi or Jupiter is lacking. Such people seek > > gurus to > > > >>> overcome this problem. > > > >>> But there can be some allied problems with the curse like > > > >>> problems with children (putrakaraka) , husband (in charts of > > > >>> ladies), etc. Also the house and lordship of Jupiter must be > > > >>> taken into consideration to announce all the results > > associated. > > > >>> The dasa to give troubles must be picked from Mula dasa, > > and Pt. > > > >>> Sanjay Rath wrote an extensive article on this which Sourav > > can > > > >>> help you find. > > > >>> Yours sincerely, > > > >>> > > > >>> Visti Larsen > > > >>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > >>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> JL wrote: > > > >>>> Dear Guruji, > > > >>>> Sadar Pranaam, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I have one doubt to ask you in many charts, combination of > > > >>>> Saturn and Jupiter is there primarily in 2nd house and 6th > > some > > > >>>> cases.(seen cases are of Leo Lagna in virgo and Aries > > Lagna in > > > >>>> virgo ) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Is this combination of Bramhin shapa , in which dasa would > > this > > > >>>> curse trouble the native , i guess saturn. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Bramhin shapa results in wandering here and there with no > > > >>>> future I learnt. > > > >>>> Can you give some comment?? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks in advance. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Kind Regards, > > > >>>> JL > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> */Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >>>> <visti@>/* wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > >>>> Dear Sir, Namaskar. > > > >>>> Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being > > placed in > > > >>>> Marana Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani- > > Guru > > > >>>> dasa is running. This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > >>>> This will be over by 2007 September, but for now you > > must > > > >>>> worship Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems. > > > >>>> To begin with recite 'Om Tarayai Namah' 3x 108 times a > > day > > > >>>> and look for a priest who can perform a Tara puja for > > you > > > >>>> or initiate you into the mantra. Begin this from a > > > >>>> wednesday night. > > > >>>> Yours sincerely, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > <visti@> For Consultations and Articles visit: > > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> drramankapur wrote: > > > >>>>> Hi All Astrologers > > > >>>>> I am suffering from great financial crisis,please > > analyse > > > >>>>> my chart and > > > >>>>> tell the cause,how long i will have to suffer and any > > > >>>>> remedial > > > >>>>> measures to mitigate the crisis.My Biop Data is as > > follows > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> D.O.B- 31/July/1960 > > > >>>>> Time- 11-10 AMIST > > > >>>>> Place- Delhi India > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thank You > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 7 > > > >>>> Fuel Price Watch: Find the cheapest petrol in your area > > > >>>> <http://au.rd./mail/tag/fuelpricewatch/**http% 3A% > > 2F%2Fau.maps.%2Ffuelwatch%2F> > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 || Hare Raama Krna || Dear Lakshmi-ji, namaskar. Actually this rule is taught by Sanjay-ji and to us in this list by Visti-ji. The rule is: Take the position of AK in the rasi chart. Now from this position, take the MKS house of the AK itself. Hence, AK doesn't like this position. So, any CK placed in this position will be rejected by Atman. Extending that, graha placed in the 12-th from Surya (Viswatmaan) is rejected by the Surya. Graha placed in the 8th from Moon is rejected (read disliked) by the mind of the person. 8th house is house of rina (debts) and no one likes our debts and we are always worried about the same. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================= , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Supriti, > Just curious, how can Sat and Moon be in MKS 'from your AK '? > As far as I know this isnt the proper use of MKS. > MKS is a placement of a planet in a specific HOUSE from lagna.and > isnt seen any other way. > Saturn is in MKS in the lagna, and Moon is in MKS in the 8th house. > Perhaps you meant something else? > Best Wishes > Lakshmi > > , "supriti108" supriti108@ > wrote: > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Swami ji, > > > > I am so sorry I did not mean to imply that you doubted Visti ji's > > teachings. I was just too eager to talk about my experiences, > > because after reading Visti ji's writings I finally understood the > > meaning behind his recommendation. > > > > Regards > > Supriti > > > > , "swami" <swami_rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > Thanks for your additional inputs.I never doubted teachings of > > Visti ji.I wanted to learn and am delighted to know one more > > principal observation .Now i have to apply and understand its > correct > > meaning.I have gone through serbia teachings in the mean time but > has > > to still apply in few more cases, before i am convinced to what is > > taught. > > > Thanks , your addition reinforces that remedies work and worth > > study. > > > - > > > supriti108 > > > > > > Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:00 PM > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > Dear Srivastva ji, > > > > > > I wanted to add my testament to Visti ji's analysis. > > > > > > I have Mo conjunct Sa in my chart, so Moon(children, mind) is > in > > MKS > > > to AK. When my daughter was about 2, I always felt like she > > rejected > > > me. Normally children cling to their mothers, but my daughter > > showed > > > no interest in me. I was extremely depressed. It was very > painful > > > for me. > > > > > > I got my atmalinga mantra in my dream and without me > > communicating > > > that to Visti ji, he suggested I do the same. It was a > miracle!! > > By > > > the grace of Shiva and Ma Durga, the problem is completely > solved. > > > > > > May Mahadeva and Ma Durga shower their blessings on all of us. > > > > > > Regards > > > Supriti > > > > > > , Visti Larsen <visti@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > The Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury is also the seventh > house, > > is > > > it not? > > > > So the atma itself has rejected money in past lives and this > is > > the > > > > problem. To improve the atma's understanding of the problem > we > > > worship > > > > the Shakti/mahavidya of the darakaraka itself. Similarly we > > worship > > > > Shiva for the problems faced by the atmakaraka. > > > > This was taught in the lectures on Darakaraka and Atmakaraka > > during > > > the > > > > Serbia 2005 conference. > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear visti, > > > > > Namskar, > > > > > > > > > > Usually now after compilation I study cases discussed. I > am > > > pasting > > > > > part of discussion in case titled For financial crisis. > > > > > > > > > > Q."Hi All Astrologers I am suffering from great financial > > crisis, > > > > > please analyze my chart and tell the cause, how long i > will > > have > > > to > > > > > suffer and any remedial measures to mitigate the crisis. > My > > Data > > > is as > > > > > follows > > > > > D.O.B- 31/July/1960 Time- 11-10 AMIST Place- Delhi India > > Thank > > > You > > > > > > > > > > A.Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being placed > in > > > Marana > > > > > Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani-Guru dasa is > > > running. > > > > > This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > > > > > > > My query is > > > > > > > > > > 1. I do not find Guru the dara karka in marankarka sthana > > from AK > > > ( > > > > > mercury). It is in marka sthan i.e. VII? > > > > > > > > > > Rest of discussion is fine.can you please correct my > > > understanding. > > > > > 2.Wherein the concept of reckoning MKS from AK is > > > described/taught in > > > > > SJC teachings.Please hint so that i can study in deatil. > > > > > Here in instant case What is predominant. Brahma Shaapa or > > the > > > said > > > > > MKS of Jup from AK, > > > > > How Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems will be > > > effective > > > > > and Brahma shaapa is going to be eliminated by Tara > worship. > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > http://www.cosmogra ce.com <http://www.cosmograce.com> > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > > > *To:* > > > > > < > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:56 AM > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > > > The mula dasa calculations are correct, but i have also > used > > > > > vimsottari dasa to see when the person will have 'mental > > > relief'. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > com > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > > >> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > > >> > > > > >> Sorry to come back on this. > > > > >> > > > > >> I think I found the option in the software it, does it > match > > > with > > > > >> your working? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Maha Dasas: > > > > >> > > > > >> Jup: 1960-07-31 (11:10:00) - 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) > > > > >> Sat: 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) - 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) > > > > >> Merc: 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) - 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) > > > > >> Mars: 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) - 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) > > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > >> > > > > >> Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > > > > >> > > > > >> Rah MD: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > >> > > > > >> Antardasas in this MD: > > > > >> > > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) > > > > >> Ket: 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) - 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) > > > > >> Ven: 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) - 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) > > > > >> Sun: 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) - 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) > > > > >> Moon: 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) - 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) > > > > >> Jup: 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) - 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) > > > > >> Sat: 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) - 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) > > > > >> Merc: 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) - 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) > > > > >> Mars: 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > >> > > > > >> 1. Rahu-Saturn as you can see goes upto 2008. So there is > > > some > > > > >> difference in your calculations from that in the software! > > > > >> 2. Is the imact of curse to be seen in specific MD and AD > > > period, > > > > >> not the entire MD? > > > > >> 3 Mars placement to its MTK sign is 12 houses, less 1 is > > > > >> 11. Vimsottari dasa period is 7 years, so 7-11 is -4. Is > it > > > ok to > > > > >> take the Moola dasa period as 4? > > > > >> > > > > >> Best Wishes , > > > > >> */Ramesh/* > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ** [srijagannat > > > > >> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:22 AM > > > > >> *To:* > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > >> > > > > >> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > >> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > > >> According to my calculations (i only use the lagna as > seed) > > > the > > > > >> dasa is of Rahu-Shani in the Mula dasa, but i may be > biased > > > > >> towards the paramparas teachings. > > > > >> Yours sincerely, > > > > >> > > > > >> Visti Larsen > > > > >> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > >> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > com > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > > >>> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Visti, Namsakar > > > > >>> Moola dasa of Saturn got over on 1st Aug 2006. Is there > a > > > reason > > > > >>> for Shapa effect going into Merc-Merc dasa? > > > > >>> Best Wishes , > > > > >>> */Ramesh/* > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ** > [srijagannat > > > > >>> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:16 AM > > > > >>> *To:* > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > >>> > > > > >>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > >>> Dear JL, Namaskar. > > > > >>> All curses require the influence of two malefics on > another > > > > >>> graha to constitute a curse/shaapa. > > > > >>> Brahmin Shaapa generally does cause a bit of wandering > in > > > life > > > > >>> as the Guru/Dhi or Jupiter is lacking. Such people seek > > > gurus to > > > > >>> overcome this problem. > > > > >>> But there can be some allied problems with the curse like > > > > >>> problems with children (putrakaraka) , husband (in > charts of > > > > >>> ladies), etc. Also the house and lordship of Jupiter > must be > > > > >>> taken into consideration to announce all the results > > > associated. > > > > >>> The dasa to give troubles must be picked from Mula dasa, > > > and Pt. > > > > >>> Sanjay Rath wrote an extensive article on this which > Sourav > > > can > > > > >>> help you find. > > > > >>> Yours sincerely, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Visti Larsen > > > > >>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > >>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > com > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> JL wrote: > > > > >>>> Dear Guruji, > > > > >>>> Sadar Pranaam, > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I have one doubt to ask you in many charts, combination > of > > > > >>>> Saturn and Jupiter is there primarily in 2nd house and > 6th > > > some > > > > >>>> cases.(seen cases are of Leo Lagna in virgo and Aries > > > Lagna in > > > > >>>> virgo ) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Is this combination of Bramhin shapa , in which dasa > would > > > this > > > > >>>> curse trouble the native , i guess saturn. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Bramhin shapa results in wandering here and there with > no > > > > >>>> future I learnt. > > > > >>>> Can you give some comment?? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Thanks in advance. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Kind Regards, > > > > >>>> JL > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> */Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > >>>> <visti@>/* wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > >>>> Dear Sir, Namaskar. > > > > >>>> Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being > > > placed in > > > > >>>> Marana Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani- > > > Guru > > > > >>>> dasa is running. This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > >>>> This will be over by 2007 September, but for now you > > > must > > > > >>>> worship Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems. > > > > >>>> To begin with recite 'Om Tarayai Namah' 3x 108 times a > > > day > > > > >>>> and look for a priest who can perform a Tara puja for > > > you > > > > >>>> or initiate you into the mantra. Begin this from a > > > > >>>> wednesday night. > > > > >>>> Yours sincerely, > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > <visti@> For Consultations and Articles visit: > > > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> drramankapur wrote: > > > > >>>>> Hi All Astrologers > > > > >>>>> I am suffering from great financial crisis,please > > > analyse > > > > >>>>> my chart and > > > > >>>>> tell the cause,how long i will have to suffer and any > > > > >>>>> remedial > > > > >>>>> measures to mitigate the crisis.My Biop Data is as > > > follows > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> D.O.B- 31/July/1960 > > > > >>>>> Time- 11-10 AMIST > > > > >>>>> Place- Delhi India > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Thank You > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On 7 > > > > >>>> Fuel Price Watch: Find the cheapest petrol in your area > > > > >>>> <http://au.rd./mail/tag/fuelpricewatch/**http% > 3A% > > > 2F%2Fau.maps.%2Ffuelwatch%2F> > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Sourav, Thank-you for the explanation, Ive heard about 8th from moon, etc but not in any context/relationship to MKS etc. You said " -namaskar. Actually this rule is > taught by Sanjay-ji and to us in this list by Visti-ji. The rule is: > Take the position of AK in the rasi chart. Now from this position, take > the MKS house of the AK itself. Hence, AK doesn't like this position. > So, any CK placed in this position will be rejected by Atman." Ok, so in Sanjays chart, SaturnAK is in the 11th house. Now can you tell me the rest using his chart as an example so i understand. So during the period of the planet then the effects will be felt or manifested? Best wishes Lakshmi Sanjay Rath Natal Chart August 7, 1963 Time: 9:15:00 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 83 E 58' 00", 21 N 27' 00" Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Shobhana - Sravana Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (59.09% left) Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (0.12% left) Yoga: Atiganda (Mo) (67.05% left) Karana: Vanija (Ve) (18.19% left) Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Pi) Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Sc) Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Mars) Sunrise: 5:31:44 am Sunset: 6:27:39 pm Janma Ghatis: 39.3028 Ayanamsa: 23-20-38.76 Sidereal Time: 18:22:38 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 14 Pi 04' 55.90" UBha 4 Pi Sc Sun - BK 21 Cn 04' 32.78" Asre 2 Cn Cp Moon - MK 19 Aq 59' 04.44" Sata 4 Aq Pi Mars - PK 13 Vi 40' 56.92" Hast 2 Vi Ta Mercury - GK 13 Le 23' 16.36" PPha 1 Le Le Jupiter - AmK 26 Pi 07' 55.43" Reva 3 Pi Aq Venus - PiK 14 Cn 56' 03.25" Push 4 Cn Sc Saturn ® - AK 26 Cp 49' 40.83" Dhan 2 Cp Vi Rahu - DK 25 Ge 45' 41.53" Puna 2 Ge Ta Ketu 25 Sg 45' 41.53" PSha 4 Sg Sc Maandi 23 Ge 34' 50.09" Puna 2 Ge Ta Gulika 14 Ge 18' 49.06" Ardr 3 Ge Aq Uranus 10 Le 57' 56.67" Magh 4 Le Cn Neptune 19 Li 35' 26.77" Swat 4 Li Pi Pluto 17 Le 36' 03.43" PPha 2 Le Vi Bhava Lagna 16 Pi 15' 54.70" UBha 4 Pi Sc Hora Lagna 12 Sc 04' 55.28" Anu 3 Sc Li Ghati Lagna 29 Li 31' 57.03" Visa 3 Li Ge Vighati Lagna 26 Le 47' 05.79" UPha 1 Le Sg Varnada Lagna 14 Li 04' 55.90" Aswi 1 Li Aq Sree Lagna 13 Pi 39' 55.89" UBha 4 Pi Sc Pranapada Lagna 27 Le 24' 44.45" UPha 1 Le Sg Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ Mo / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ju \ / | | \ / \ / | | x As x SaR | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Md \ 12 / AL \ | | / \ / \ | | Ra x Ke | | \ / \ / | | \ Gk / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |Su Ve x Ma x HL | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Me \ / GL \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah Rah 1945-08-15 Jup 1948-04-24 Sat 1950-09-21 Merc 1953-07-27 Ket 1956-02-11 Ven 1957-02-28 Sun 1960-02-29 Moon 1961-01-24 Mars 1962-07-27 Jup Jup 1963-08-15 Sat 1965-10-03 Merc 1968-04-12 Ket 1970-07-21 Ven 1971-06-26 Sun 1974-02-23 Moon 1974-12-14 Mars 1976-04-12 Rah 1977-03-19 Sat Sat 1979-08-15 Merc 1982-08-18 Ket 1985-04-24 Ven 1986-06-04 Sun 1989-08-05 Moon 1990-07-18 Mars 1992-02-14 Rah 1993-03-25 Jup 1996-01-31 Merc Merc 1998-08-15 Ket 2001-01-09 Ven 2002-01-07 Sun 2004-11-08 Moon 2005-09-15 Mars 2007-02-11 Rah 2008-02-09 Jup 2010-08-31 Sat 2012-12-05 Ket Ket 2015-08-16 Ven 2016-01-10 Sun 2017-03-10 Moon 2017-07-18 Mars 2018-02-14 Rah 2018-07-15 Jup 2019-08-03 Sat 2020-07-08 Merc 2021-08-18 Ven Ven 2022-08-15 Sun 2025-12-14 Moon 2026-12-15 Mars 2028-08-15 Rah 2029-10-16 Jup 2032-10-15 Sat 2035-06-14 Merc 2038-08-15 Ket 2041-06-13 Sun Sun 2042-08-15 Moon 2042-12-03 Mars 2043-06-01 Rah 2043-10-10 Jup 2044-09-03 Sat 2045-06-20 -- In , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Raama Krna || > > Dear Lakshmi-ji, > > namaskar. Actually this rule is > taught by Sanjay-ji and to us in this list by Visti-ji. The rule is: > Take the position of AK in the rasi chart. Now from this position, take > the MKS house of the AK itself. Hence, AK doesn't like this position. > So, any CK placed in this position will be rejected by Atman. > > Extending that, graha placed in the 12-th from Surya (Viswatmaan) is > rejected by the Surya. Graha placed in the 8th from Moon is rejected > (read disliked) by the mind of the person. 8th house is house of rina > (debts) and no one likes our debts and we are always worried about the > same. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================= > > > , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary@> > wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Supriti, > > Just curious, how can Sat and Moon be in MKS 'from your AK '? > > As far as I know this isnt the proper use of MKS. > > MKS is a placement of a planet in a specific HOUSE from lagna.and > > isnt seen any other way. > > Saturn is in MKS in the lagna, and Moon is in MKS in the 8th house. > > Perhaps you meant something else? > > Best Wishes > > Lakshmi > > > > , "supriti108" supriti108@ > > wrote: > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > Dear Swami ji, > > > > > > I am so sorry I did not mean to imply that you doubted Visti ji's > > > teachings. I was just too eager to talk about my experiences, > > > because after reading Visti ji's writings I finally understood the > > > meaning behind his recommendation. > > > > > > Regards > > > Supriti > > > > > > , "swami" <swami_rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > Thanks for your additional inputs.I never doubted teachings of > > > Visti ji.I wanted to learn and am delighted to know one more > > > principal observation .Now i have to apply and understand its > > correct > > > meaning.I have gone through serbia teachings in the mean time but > > has > > > to still apply in few more cases, before i am convinced to what is > > > taught. > > > > Thanks , your addition reinforces that remedies work and worth > > > study. > > > > - > > > > supriti108 > > > > > > > > Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:00 PM > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Srivastva ji, > > > > > > > > I wanted to add my testament to Visti ji's analysis. > > > > > > > > I have Mo conjunct Sa in my chart, so Moon(children, mind) is > > in > > > MKS > > > > to AK. When my daughter was about 2, I always felt like she > > > rejected > > > > me. Normally children cling to their mothers, but my daughter > > > showed > > > > no interest in me. I was extremely depressed. It was very > > painful > > > > for me. > > > > > > > > I got my atmalinga mantra in my dream and without me > > > communicating > > > > that to Visti ji, he suggested I do the same. It was a > > miracle!! > > > By > > > > the grace of Shiva and Ma Durga, the problem is completely > > solved. > > > > > > > > May Mahadeva and Ma Durga shower their blessings on all of us. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > , Visti Larsen <visti@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > The Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury is also the seventh > > house, > > > is > > > > it not? > > > > > So the atma itself has rejected money in past lives and this > > is > > > the > > > > > problem. To improve the atma's understanding of the problem > > we > > > > worship > > > > > the Shakti/mahavidya of the darakaraka itself. Similarly we > > > worship > > > > > Shiva for the problems faced by the atmakaraka. > > > > > This was taught in the lectures on Darakaraka and Atmakaraka > > > during > > > > the > > > > > Serbia 2005 conference. > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear visti, > > > > > > Namskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > Usually now after compilation I study cases discussed. I > > am > > > > pasting > > > > > > part of discussion in case titled For financial crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > Q."Hi All Astrologers I am suffering from great financial > > > crisis, > > > > > > please analyze my chart and tell the cause, how long i > > will > > > have > > > > to > > > > > > suffer and any remedial measures to mitigate the crisis. > > My > > > Data > > > > is as > > > > > > follows > > > > > > D.O.B- 31/July/1960 Time- 11-10 AMIST Place- Delhi India > > > Thank > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > > > A.Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being placed > > in > > > > Marana > > > > > > Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani-Guru dasa is > > > > running. > > > > > > This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > > > > > > > > > My query is > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I do not find Guru the dara karka in marankarka sthana > > > from AK > > > > ( > > > > > > mercury). It is in marka sthan i.e. VII? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rest of discussion is fine.can you please correct my > > > > understanding. > > > > > > 2.Wherein the concept of reckoning MKS from AK is > > > > described/taught in > > > > > > SJC teachings.Please hint so that i can study in deatil. > > > > > > Here in instant case What is predominant. Brahma Shaapa or > > > the > > > > said > > > > > > MKS of Jup from AK, > > > > > > How Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems will be > > > > effective > > > > > > and Brahma shaapa is going to be eliminated by Tara > > worship. > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > http://www.cosmogra ce.com <http://www.cosmograce.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > < > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:56 AM > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > > > > The mula dasa calculations are correct, but i have also > > used > > > > > > vimsottari dasa to see when the person will have 'mental > > > > relief'. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > > com > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > > > >> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sorry to come back on this. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I think I found the option in the software it, does it > > match > > > > with > > > > > >> your working? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Maha Dasas: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Jup: 1960-07-31 (11:10:00) - 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) > > > > > >> Sat: 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) - 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) > > > > > >> Merc: 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) - 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) > > > > > >> Mars: 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) - 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) > > > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Rah MD: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) > > > > > >> Ket: 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) - 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) > > > > > >> Ven: 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) - 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) > > > > > >> Sun: 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) - 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) > > > > > >> Moon: 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) - 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) > > > > > >> Jup: 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) - 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) > > > > > >> Sat: 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) - 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) > > > > > >> Merc: 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) - 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) > > > > > >> Mars: 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 1. Rahu-Saturn as you can see goes upto 2008. So there is > > > > some > > > > > >> difference in your calculations from that in the software! > > > > > >> 2. Is the imact of curse to be seen in specific MD and AD > > > > period, > > > > > >> not the entire MD? > > > > > >> 3 Mars placement to its MTK sign is 12 houses, less 1 is > > > > > >> 11. Vimsottari dasa period is 7 years, so 7-11 is -4. Is > > it > > > > ok to > > > > > >> take the Moola dasa period as 4? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Best Wishes , > > > > > >> */Ramesh/* > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ** [srijagannat > > > > > >> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:22 AM > > > > > >> *To:* > > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > >> > > > > > >> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > >> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > > > >> According to my calculations (i only use the lagna as > > seed) > > > > the > > > > > >> dasa is of Rahu-Shani in the Mula dasa, but i may be > > biased > > > > > >> towards the paramparas teachings. > > > > > >> Yours sincerely, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Visti Larsen > > > > > >> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > > >> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > > com > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > > > >>> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Visti, Namsakar > > > > > >>> Moola dasa of Saturn got over on 1st Aug 2006. Is there > > a > > > > reason > > > > > >>> for Shapa effect going into Merc-Merc dasa? > > > > > >>> Best Wishes , > > > > > >>> */Ramesh/* > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ** > > [srijagannat > > > > > >>> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > > > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:16 AM > > > > > >>> *To:* > > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > >>> Dear JL, Namaskar. > > > > > >>> All curses require the influence of two malefics on > > another > > > > > >>> graha to constitute a curse/shaapa. > > > > > >>> Brahmin Shaapa generally does cause a bit of wandering > > in > > > > life > > > > > >>> as the Guru/Dhi or Jupiter is lacking. Such people seek > > > > gurus to > > > > > >>> overcome this problem. > > > > > >>> But there can be some allied problems with the curse like > > > > > >>> problems with children (putrakaraka) , husband (in > > charts of > > > > > >>> ladies), etc. Also the house and lordship of Jupiter > > must be > > > > > >>> taken into consideration to announce all the results > > > > associated. > > > > > >>> The dasa to give troubles must be picked from Mula dasa, > > > > and Pt. > > > > > >>> Sanjay Rath wrote an extensive article on this which > > Sourav > > > > can > > > > > >>> help you find. > > > > > >>> Yours sincerely, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Visti Larsen > > > > > >>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > > >>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > > com > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> JL wrote: > > > > > >>>> Dear Guruji, > > > > > >>>> Sadar Pranaam, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I have one doubt to ask you in many charts, combination > > of > > > > > >>>> Saturn and Jupiter is there primarily in 2nd house and > > 6th > > > > some > > > > > >>>> cases.(seen cases are of Leo Lagna in virgo and Aries > > > > Lagna in > > > > > >>>> virgo ) > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Is this combination of Bramhin shapa , in which dasa > > would > > > > this > > > > > >>>> curse trouble the native , i guess saturn. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Bramhin shapa results in wandering here and there with > > no > > > > > >>>> future I learnt. > > > > > >>>> Can you give some comment?? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Thanks in advance. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Kind Regards, > > > > > >>>> JL > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> */Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > > >>>> <visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > >>>> Dear Sir, Namaskar. > > > > > >>>> Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being > > > > placed in > > > > > >>>> Marana Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani- > > > > Guru > > > > > >>>> dasa is running. This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > > >>>> This will be over by 2007 September, but for now you > > > > must > > > > > >>>> worship Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems. > > > > > >>>> To begin with recite 'Om Tarayai Namah' 3x 108 times a > > > > day > > > > > >>>> and look for a priest who can perform a Tara puja for > > > > you > > > > > >>>> or initiate you into the mantra. Begin this from a > > > > > >>>> wednesday night. > > > > > >>>> Yours sincerely, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > <visti@> For Consultations and Articles visit: > > > > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> drramankapur wrote: > > > > > >>>>> Hi All Astrologers > > > > > >>>>> I am suffering from great financial crisis,please > > > > analyse > > > > > >>>>> my chart and > > > > > >>>>> tell the cause,how long i will have to suffer and any > > > > > >>>>> remedial > > > > > >>>>> measures to mitigate the crisis.My Biop Data is as > > > > follows > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> D.O.B- 31/July/1960 > > > > > >>>>> Time- 11-10 AMIST > > > > > >>>>> Place- Delhi India > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Thank You > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On 7 > > > > > >>>> Fuel Price Watch: Find the cheapest petrol in your area > > > > > >>>> <http://au.rd./mail/tag/fuelpricewatch/**http% > > 3A% > > > > 2F%2Fau.maps.%2Ffuelwatch%2F> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 |om| Dear Visti, namaste We all have been taught that the atmakaraka is the king of the horoscope. I cannot understand why you should consider MKS with respect to other charakarakas? Please shed a little more light on this. In the first example given by you, the DK (Surya) rejects the AK (Shukra). What does this exactly mean i.e., who is rejecting what? Supriti: What is the charakarakatwa of Moon which is conjoined your AK? I am unable to understand how the AK can reject motherhood? best regards Hari On 10/6/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > Just as Jupiter does not like to be placed in the third house, so also > will he reject any planets, arudha, etc. placed in the third house from him. > Similarly reckon from the other planets. > This becomes extremely relevant from the atmakaraka, as if the self/atma > rejects something, then the person will not see that in their life. Also if > other karakas reject the atma another problem arises. > In this case the atmakaraka is Mercury, and so we must see the fourth and > seventh houses from Mercury. In this case jupiter (naisargika dhana karaka) > and Dara karaka (karaka for second house and wealth according to parasara), > is placed in such a malignant place from Mercury thus causing financial > problems. Now, the darakaraka and matrikaraka are said to be our mother or > devi shakti. To remedy these problems he needs to worship Tara-devi, but the > remedy for Brahmin Shapa is not Tara worship. > > I have pasted two more charts with problems related to MKS below: > Natal Chart > August 17, 1971 > Time: 4:30:00 am > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 92 W 28' 00", 15 N 09' 00" > Huixtla, Mexico > > In the given chart, the Sun is the second lord and chara darakaraka, and > the twelfth from it has the atmakaraka Venus. AK-Venus is also in MKS from > tenth lord and amatyakaraka Mars. There is also a curse of spouse in the > chart. > Using Lagna-Vimsottari, during Venus-Venus Dasa, the person married, but > due to complications with his mother (fourth lord Venus) he lost his job > (amatyakaraka) and found himself in a tight bind financially. He was advised > to worship Tryambakeshvara to fix the problem, with the promise to also > worship Kamalatmika subsequently. > > Natal Chart > January 29, 1961 > Time: 2:10:00 am > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 81 E 42' 00", 16 N 45' 00" > Tanuku, India > > In this chart, Shani the atmakaraka is joined Guru. Guru is second lord, > darakaraka and naisargika dhanakaraka all relating to finances. During > Shukra-Shani dasa the persons finances were in the red. > Yours sincerely, > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Lakshmi-ji, namaskar. Maaranakaarakasthaana (MKS) refers to a graha's natural karakatva. It shows what it doesn't like. AK is a graha and it indicates how native's Atman views the world and what attitude Atman takes towards the maaya that shrouds him. In our attitudes we show some preferences and some displeasures. MKS from AK from itself shows that experience which Atman doesn't want. See that the feeling of experience comes when we put ourselves in other's shoes. Hence Atman will dislike that Charakaaraka that is placed in its MKS bhava. Each Charakaaraka is also a part of AK. Whereas AK shows totality of the attitude, individual CK shows attitudes towards the specific groups of people in our lives. PiK shows the native's attitude towards father figures. Similarly others. The entire Charakaaraka set shows that every individual soul is related to every other individual and in each such relation the native's soul has a particular attitude (represented by the specific CK). So when a CK is placed in MKS bhava of the AK from itself, it shows that, that particular attitude toward those particular group of other souls doesn't fit in the overall experiences the native's soul is looking for in the universe. Hence the native's soul starts rejecting those groups of individuals. Such a condition is serious as it is soul level and even mantras can fail. Only high spiritual development ( i.e. ability to see through the veil's of maaya) can enable a native to stop rejecting. But for most of us, this cannot happen easily. For example, BK in AK's MKS from itself shows stunted spiritual development because (a) the native starts rejecting those who are trying to guide him in spiritual journey and hence such guidences will likely fall in deaf ears (b) the fact that native is rejecting Guru's itself shows that spiritual growth had not come to a proper stage in evolution. DK in MKS of AK from itself shows that money and relationships( marriage ) is difficult to come by as in this incarnation, the native doesn't want to associate with those people, who come to give him wealth/sustenance/love etc. The example of Guru Sanjay-ji you chose is not quite fruitful. Sani is alone hence because no one is with Sani there is no rejection (1st house from Sani is Sani's MKS, AK cannot reject itself, so Sani is not rejecting Sani but if some other CK conjoined Sani then Sani would not like that CK aspect). A retrograde AK shows a very focussed individual. Notice that after CK-transformation, Guru is new AK. Now there is no CK in the 3rd from Guru so still again, there is no rejection after the transformation. Now one must draw a difference between CK's in dusthana from AK and in MKS from AK which are not necessarily the same. CK in Dusthana from AK indicates that AK is struggling to adjust with those groups of people. While in MKS, indicates that AK is "trying" not have anything to do with those people in the first place. One can have a struggling marriage with likes and dislikes in constant conflict; while there is another kind of marriage where there is no open conflict but complete incompatibility so that the native dislikes to be in that kind of state with that spouse. This would be Mangal AK and DK in 7th from itself. Mangal represents fighting spirit and dislikes 7th from it (partners, sambandha-harmony) So Mangal AK native finds it difficult to derive satisfaction in marriage if DK in 7th from Mangal. Now this is soul level and in normal life it is not possible to grasp that. So the native will wonder why such an incompatability exists even though there may not be strong dislikes. Same goes for finances as DK includes those who give wealth. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Sourav, > Thank-you for the explanation, Ive heard about 8th from moon, etc > but not in any context/relationship to MKS etc. > > You said " -namaskar. Actually this rule is > > taught by Sanjay-ji and to us in this list by Visti-ji. The rule > is: > > Take the position of AK in the rasi chart. Now from this position, > take > > the MKS house of the AK itself. Hence, AK doesn't like this > position. > > So, any CK placed in this position will be rejected by Atman." > > Ok, so in Sanjays chart, SaturnAK is in the 11th house. > Now can you tell me the rest using his chart as an example so i > understand. > So during the period of the planet then the effects will be felt or > manifested? > Best wishes > Lakshmi > > > Sanjay Rath > > Natal Chart > > August 7, 1963 > Time: 9:15:00 pm > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 83 E 58' 00", 21 N 27' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Shobhana - Sravana > Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (59.09% left) > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (0.12% left) > Yoga: Atiganda (Mo) (67.05% left) > Karana: Vanija (Ve) (18.19% left) > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Pi) > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Sc) > Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Mars) > > Sunrise: 5:31:44 am > Sunset: 6:27:39 pm > Janma Ghatis: 39.3028 > > Ayanamsa: 23-20-38.76 > Sidereal Time: 18:22:38 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 14 Pi 04' 55.90" UBha 4 Pi Sc > Sun - BK 21 Cn 04' 32.78" Asre 2 Cn Cp > Moon - MK 19 Aq 59' 04.44" Sata 4 Aq Pi > Mars - PK 13 Vi 40' 56.92" Hast 2 Vi Ta > Mercury - GK 13 Le 23' 16.36" PPha 1 Le Le > Jupiter - AmK 26 Pi 07' 55.43" Reva 3 Pi Aq > Venus - PiK 14 Cn 56' 03.25" Push 4 Cn Sc > Saturn ® - AK 26 Cp 49' 40.83" Dhan 2 Cp Vi > Rahu - DK 25 Ge 45' 41.53" Puna 2 Ge Ta > Ketu 25 Sg 45' 41.53" PSha 4 Sg Sc > Maandi 23 Ge 34' 50.09" Puna 2 Ge Ta > Gulika 14 Ge 18' 49.06" Ardr 3 Ge Aq > Uranus 10 Le 57' 56.67" Magh 4 Le Cn > Neptune 19 Li 35' 26.77" Swat 4 Li Pi > Pluto 17 Le 36' 03.43" PPha 2 Le Vi > Bhava Lagna 16 Pi 15' 54.70" UBha 4 Pi Sc > Hora Lagna 12 Sc 04' 55.28" Anu 3 Sc Li > Ghati Lagna 29 Li 31' 57.03" Visa 3 Li Ge > Vighati Lagna 26 Le 47' 05.79" UPha 1 Le Sg > Varnada Lagna 14 Li 04' 55.90" Aswi 1 Li Aq > Sree Lagna 13 Pi 39' 55.89" UBha 4 Pi Sc > Pranapada Lagna 27 Le 24' 44.45" UPha 1 Le Sg > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ Mo / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ju \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x As x SaR | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Md \ 12 / AL \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Ra x Ke | > | \ / \ / | > | \ Gk / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Su Ve x Ma x HL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Me \ / GL \ | > | / \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Rah Rah 1945-08-15 Jup 1948-04-24 Sat 1950-09-21 > Merc 1953-07-27 Ket 1956-02-11 Ven 1957-02-28 > Sun 1960-02-29 Moon 1961-01-24 Mars 1962-07-27 > Jup Jup 1963-08-15 Sat 1965-10-03 Merc 1968-04-12 > Ket 1970-07-21 Ven 1971-06-26 Sun 1974-02-23 > Moon 1974-12-14 Mars 1976-04-12 Rah 1977-03-19 > Sat Sat 1979-08-15 Merc 1982-08-18 Ket 1985-04-24 > Ven 1986-06-04 Sun 1989-08-05 Moon 1990-07-18 > Mars 1992-02-14 Rah 1993-03-25 Jup 1996-01-31 > Merc Merc 1998-08-15 Ket 2001-01-09 Ven 2002-01-07 > Sun 2004-11-08 Moon 2005-09-15 Mars 2007-02-11 > Rah 2008-02-09 Jup 2010-08-31 Sat 2012-12-05 > Ket Ket 2015-08-16 Ven 2016-01-10 Sun 2017-03-10 > Moon 2017-07-18 Mars 2018-02-14 Rah 2018-07-15 > Jup 2019-08-03 Sat 2020-07-08 Merc 2021-08-18 > Ven Ven 2022-08-15 Sun 2025-12-14 Moon 2026-12-15 > Mars 2028-08-15 Rah 2029-10-16 Jup 2032-10-15 > Sat 2035-06-14 Merc 2038-08-15 Ket 2041-06-13 > Sun Sun 2042-08-15 Moon 2042-12-03 Mars 2043-06-01 > Rah 2043-10-10 Jup 2044-09-03 Sat 2045-06-20 > > > -- In , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krna || > > > > Dear Lakshmi-ji, > > > > namaskar. Actually this rule > is > > taught by Sanjay-ji and to us in this list by Visti-ji. The rule > is: > > Take the position of AK in the rasi chart. Now from this position, > take > > the MKS house of the AK itself. Hence, AK doesn't like this > position. > > So, any CK placed in this position will be rejected by Atman. > > > > Extending that, graha placed in the 12-th from Surya (Viswatmaan) > is > > rejected by the Surya. Graha placed in the 8th from Moon is > rejected > > (read disliked) by the mind of the person. 8th house is house of > rina > > (debts) and no one likes our debts and we are always worried about > the > > same. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================= > > > > > > , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > Dear Supriti, > > > Just curious, how can Sat and Moon be in MKS 'from your AK '? > > > As far as I know this isnt the proper use of MKS. > > > MKS is a placement of a planet in a specific HOUSE from lagna.and > > > isnt seen any other way. > > > Saturn is in MKS in the lagna, and Moon is in MKS in the 8th > house. > > > Perhaps you meant something else? > > > Best Wishes > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > , "supriti108" supriti108@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Swami ji, > > > > > > > > I am so sorry I did not mean to imply that you doubted Visti > ji's > > > > teachings. I was just too eager to talk about my experiences, > > > > because after reading Visti ji's writings I finally understood > the > > > > meaning behind his recommendation. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > , "swami" <swami_rcs@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > Thanks for your additional inputs.I never doubted teachings > of > > > > Visti ji.I wanted to learn and am delighted to know one more > > > > principal observation .Now i have to apply and understand its > > > correct > > > > meaning.I have gone through serbia teachings in the mean time > but > > > has > > > > to still apply in few more cases, before i am convinced to > what is > > > > taught. > > > > > Thanks , your addition reinforces that remedies work and > worth > > > > study. > > > > > - > > > > > supriti108 > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:00 PM > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > Dear Srivastva ji, > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to add my testament to Visti ji's analysis. > > > > > > > > > > I have Mo conjunct Sa in my chart, so Moon(children, mind) is > > > in > > > > MKS > > > > > to AK. When my daughter was about 2, I always felt like she > > > > rejected > > > > > me. Normally children cling to their mothers, but my daughter > > > > showed > > > > > no interest in me. I was extremely depressed. It was very > > > painful > > > > > for me. > > > > > > > > > > I got my atmalinga mantra in my dream and without me > > > > communicating > > > > > that to Visti ji, he suggested I do the same. It was a > > > miracle!! > > > > By > > > > > the grace of Shiva and Ma Durga, the problem is completely > > > solved. > > > > > > > > > > May Mahadeva and Ma Durga shower their blessings on all of > us. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > , Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > > The Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury is also the seventh > > > house, > > > > is > > > > > it not? > > > > > > So the atma itself has rejected money in past lives and > this > > > is > > > > the > > > > > > problem. To improve the atma's understanding of the problem > > > we > > > > > worship > > > > > > the Shakti/mahavidya of the darakaraka itself. Similarly we > > > > worship > > > > > > Shiva for the problems faced by the atmakaraka. > > > > > > This was taught in the lectures on Darakaraka and > Atmakaraka > > > > during > > > > > the > > > > > > Serbia 2005 conference. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear visti, > > > > > > > Namskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usually now after compilation I study cases discussed. I > > > am > > > > > pasting > > > > > > > part of discussion in case titled For financial crisis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Q."Hi All Astrologers I am suffering from great financial > > > > crisis, > > > > > > > please analyze my chart and tell the cause, how long i > > > will > > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > > suffer and any remedial measures to mitigate the crisis. > > > My > > > > Data > > > > > is as > > > > > > > follows > > > > > > > D.O.B- 31/July/1960 Time- 11-10 AMIST Place- Delhi India > > > > Thank > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A.Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being placed > > > in > > > > > Marana > > > > > > > Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani-Guru dasa is > > > > > running. > > > > > > > This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My query is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I do not find Guru the dara karka in marankarka sthana > > > > from AK > > > > > ( > > > > > > > mercury). It is in marka sthan i.e. VII? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rest of discussion is fine.can you please correct my > > > > > understanding. > > > > > > > 2.Wherein the concept of reckoning MKS from AK is > > > > > described/taught in > > > > > > > SJC teachings.Please hint so that i can study in deatil. > > > > > > > Here in instant case What is predominant. Brahma Shaapa > or > > > > the > > > > > said > > > > > > > MKS of Jup from AK, > > > > > > > How Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems will be > > > > > effective > > > > > > > and Brahma shaapa is going to be eliminated by Tara > > > worship. > > > > > > > With kind regards. > > > > > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > > http://www.cosmogra ce.com <http://www.cosmograce.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > ** Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > > > > > *To:* > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:56 AM > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > > > > > The mula dasa calculations are correct, but i have also > > > used > > > > > > > vimsottari dasa to see when the person will have 'mental > > > > > relief'. > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > > > com > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > > > > >> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Dear Visti, Namaskar, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sorry to come back on this. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I think I found the option in the software it, does it > > > match > > > > > with > > > > > > >> your working? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Maha Dasas: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Jup: 1960-07-31 (11:10:00) - 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) > > > > > > >> Sat: 1964-07-31 (11:50:11) - 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) > > > > > > >> Merc: 1981-07-31 (20:29:10) - 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) > > > > > > >> Mars: 1995-08-01 (10:23:30) - 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) > > > > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past > karma): > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Rah MD: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Antardasas in this MD: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Rah: 1999-08-01 (11:01:29) - 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) > > > > > > >> Ket: 2001-06-03 (22:59:14) - 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) > > > > > > >> Ven: 2001-09-27 (5:38:33) - 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) > > > > > > >> Sun: 2004-05-05 (22:54:27) - 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) > > > > > > >> Moon: 2005-02-11 (8:14:25) - 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) > > > > > > >> Jup: 2005-08-01 (0:03:50) - 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) > > > > > > >> Sat: 2006-03-11 (3:20:45) - 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) > > > > > > >> Merc: 2008-10-25 (1:05:14) - 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) > > > > > > >> Mars: 2010-12-19 (10:35:47) - 2011-08-01 (12:46:23) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 1. Rahu-Saturn as you can see goes upto 2008. So there > is > > > > > some > > > > > > >> difference in your calculations from that in the > software! > > > > > > >> 2. Is the imact of curse to be seen in specific MD and > AD > > > > > period, > > > > > > >> not the entire MD? > > > > > > >> 3 Mars placement to its MTK sign is 12 houses, less 1 is > > > > > > >> 11. Vimsottari dasa period is 7 years, so 7-11 is -4. Is > > > it > > > > > ok to > > > > > > >> take the Moola dasa period as 4? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Best Wishes , > > > > > > >> */Ramesh/* > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ** > [srijagannat > > > > > > >> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > > > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:22 AM > > > > > > >> *To:* > > > > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > >> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. > > > > > > >> According to my calculations (i only use the lagna as > > > seed) > > > > > the > > > > > > >> dasa is of Rahu-Shani in the Mula dasa, but i may be > > > biased > > > > > > >> towards the paramparas teachings. > > > > > > >> Yours sincerely, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Visti Larsen > > > > > > >> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > > > >> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > > > com > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote: > > > > > > >>> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Visti, Namsakar > > > > > > >>> Moola dasa of Saturn got over on 1st Aug 2006. Is there > > > a > > > > > reason > > > > > > >>> for Shapa effect going into Merc-Merc dasa? > > > > > > >>> Best Wishes , > > > > > > >>> */Ramesh/* > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ** > > > [srijagannat > > > > > > >>> h ] *On Behalf Of *Visti Larsen > > > > > > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:16 AM > > > > > > >>> *To:* > > > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > >>> Dear JL, Namaskar. > > > > > > >>> All curses require the influence of two malefics on > > > another > > > > > > >>> graha to constitute a curse/shaapa. > > > > > > >>> Brahmin Shaapa generally does cause a bit of wandering > > > in > > > > > life > > > > > > >>> as the Guru/Dhi or Jupiter is lacking. Such people seek > > > > > gurus to > > > > > > >>> overcome this problem. > > > > > > >>> But there can be some allied problems with the curse > like > > > > > > >>> problems with children (putrakaraka) , husband (in > > > charts of > > > > > > >>> ladies), etc. Also the house and lordship of Jupiter > > > must be > > > > > > >>> taken into consideration to announce all the results > > > > > associated. > > > > > > >>> The dasa to give troubles must be picked from Mula > dasa, > > > > > and Pt. > > > > > > >>> Sanjay Rath wrote an extensive article on this which > > > Sourav > > > > > can > > > > > > >>> help you find. > > > > > > >>> Yours sincerely, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Visti Larsen > > > > > > >>> Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti@> > > > > > > >>> For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda. > > > com > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> JL wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Dear Guruji, > > > > > > >>>> Sadar Pranaam, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I have one doubt to ask you in many charts, > combination > > > of > > > > > > >>>> Saturn and Jupiter is there primarily in 2nd house and > > > 6th > > > > > some > > > > > > >>>> cases.(seen cases are of Leo Lagna in virgo and Aries > > > > > Lagna in > > > > > > >>>> virgo ) > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Is this combination of Bramhin shapa , in which dasa > > > would > > > > > this > > > > > > >>>> curse trouble the native , i guess saturn. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Bramhin shapa results in wandering here and there with > > > no > > > > > > >>>> future I learnt. > > > > > > >>>> Can you give some comment?? > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks in advance. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Kind Regards, > > > > > > >>>> JL > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> */Visti Larsen visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > > > >>>> <visti@>/* wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > >>>> Dear Sir, Namaskar. > > > > > > >>>> Your problem is due to Guru and Darakaraka being > > > > > placed in > > > > > > >>>> Marana Karaka Sthana from your Atmakaraka, as Shani- > > > > > Guru > > > > > > >>>> dasa is running. This is also a Brahmin Shaapa. > > > > > > >>>> This will be over by 2007 September, but for now you > > > > > must > > > > > > >>>> worship Mahavidya Sri Tara to overcome these problems. > > > > > > >>>> To begin with recite 'Om Tarayai Namah' 3x 108 times a > > > > > day > > > > > > >>>> and look for a priest who can perform a Tara puja for > > > > > you > > > > > > >>>> or initiate you into the mantra. Begin this from a > > > > > > >>>> wednesday night. > > > > > > >>>> Yours sincerely, > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > <visti@> For Consultations and Articles visit: > > > > > http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> drramankapur wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> Hi All Astrologers > > > > > > >>>>> I am suffering from great financial crisis,please > > > > > analyse > > > > > > >>>>> my chart and > > > > > > >>>>> tell the cause,how long i will have to suffer and any > > > > > > >>>>> remedial > > > > > > >>>>> measures to mitigate the crisis.My Biop Data is as > > > > > follows > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> D.O.B- 31/July/1960 > > > > > > >>>>> Time- 11-10 AMIST > > > > > > >>>>> Place- Delhi India > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Thank You > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> On 7 > > > > > > >>>> Fuel Price Watch: Find the cheapest petrol in your > area > > > > > > >>>> > <http://au.rd./mail/tag/fuelpricewatch/**http% > > > 3A% > > > > > 2F%2Fau.maps.%2Ffuelwatch%2F> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Dear Visti ji and Saurav ji, Namaskar Many thanks for elaborated notes. I have few confusions - Since AK has primary role for atma (spiritual growth), will it be still attached to maya (for accepting or rejecting other chara karakas if in MKS)? Also, if we take progression of chart (Nadi works on this) - will these acceptance / rejection have ageing (periodic) effects? regards / Prafulla Gang "Principles have no real force except when one is well-fed." ************************************************ souravc108 Sent: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:59:18 -0000 To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Lakshmi-ji, namaskar. Maaranakaarakasthaana (MKS) refers to a graha's natural karakatva. It shows what it doesn't like. AK is a graha and it indicates how native's Atman views the world and what attitude Atman takes towards the maaya that shrouds him. In our attitudes we show some preferences and some displeasures. MKS from AK from itself shows that experience which Atman doesn't want. See that the feeling of experience comes when we put ourselves in other's shoes. Hence Atman will dislike that Charakaaraka that is placed in its MKS bhava. Each Charakaaraka is also a part of AK. Whereas AK shows totality of the attitude, individual CK shows attitudes towards the specific groups of people in our lives. PiK shows the native's attitude towards father figures. Similarly others. The entire Charakaaraka set shows that every individual soul is related to every other individual and in each such relation the native's soul has a particular attitude (represented by the specific CK). So when a CK is placed in MKS bhava of the AK from itself, it shows that, that particular attitude toward those particular group of other souls doesn't fit in the overall experiences the native's soul is looking for in the universe. Hence the native's soul starts rejecting those groups of individuals. Such a condition is serious as it is soul level and even mantras can fail. Only high spiritual development ( i.e. ability to see through the veil's of maaya) can enable a native to stop rejecting. But for most of us, this cannot happen easily. For example, BK in AK's MKS from itself shows stunted spiritual development because (a) the native starts rejecting those who are trying to guide him in spiritual journey and hence such guidences will likely fall in deaf ears (b) the fact that native is rejecting Guru's itself shows that spiritual growth had not come to a proper stage in evolution. DK in MKS of AK from itself shows that money and relationships( marriage ) is difficult to come by as in this incarnation, the native doesn't want to associate with those people, who come to give him wealth/sustenance/love etc. The example of Guru Sanjay-ji you chose is not quite fruitful. Sani is alone hence because no one is with Sani there is no rejection (1st house from Sani is Sani's MKS, AK cannot reject itself, so Sani is not rejecting Sani but if some other CK conjoined Sani then Sani would not like that CK aspect). A retrograde AK shows a very focussed individual. Notice that after CK-transformation, Guru is new AK. Now there is no CK in the 3rd from Guru so still again, there is no rejection after the transformation. Now one must draw a difference between CK's in dusthana from AK and in MKS from AK which are not necessarily the same. CK in Dusthana from AK indicates that AK is struggling to adjust with those groups of people. While in MKS, indicates that AK is "trying" not have anything to do with those people in the first place. One can have a struggling marriage with likes and dislikes in constant conflict; while there is another kind of marriage where there is no open conflict but complete incompatibility so that the native dislikes to be in that kind of state with that spouse. This would be Mangal AK and DK in 7th from itself. Mangal represents fighting spirit and dislikes 7th from it (partners, sambandha-harmony) So Mangal AK native finds it difficult to derive satisfaction in marriage if DK in 7th from Mangal. Now this is soul level and in normal life it is not possible to grasp that. So the native will wonder why such an incompatability exists even though there may not be strong dislikes. Same goes for finances as DK includes those who give wealth. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Sourav, > Thank-you for the explanation, Ive heard about 8th from moon, etc > but not in any context/relationship to MKS etc. > > You said " -namaskar. Actually this rule is > > taught by Sanjay-ji and to us in this list by Visti-ji. The rule > is: > > Take the position of AK in the rasi chart. Now from this position, > take > > the MKS house of the AK itself. Hence, AK doesn't like this > position. > > So, any CK placed in this position will be rejected by Atman." > > Ok, so in Sanjays chart, SaturnAK is in the 11th house. > Now can you tell me the rest using his chart as an example so i > understand. > So during the period of the planet then the effects will be felt or > manifested? > Best wishes > Lakshmi > > > Sanjay Rath > > Natal Chart > > August 7, 1963 > Time: 9:15:00 pm > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 83 E 58' 00", 21 N 27' 00" > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Shobhana - Sravana > Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (59.09% left) > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (0.12% left) > Yoga: Atiganda (Mo) (67.05% left) > Karana: Vanija (Ve) (18.19% left) > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Pi) > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Sc) > Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Mars) > > Sunrise: 5:31:44 am > Sunset: 6:27:39 pm > Janma Ghatis: 39.3028 > > Ayanamsa: 23-20-38.76 > Sidereal Time: 18:22:38 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 14 Pi 04' 55.90" UBha 4 Pi Sc > Sun - BK 21 Cn 04' 32.78" Asre 2 Cn Cp > Moon - MK 19 Aq 59' 04.44" Sata 4 Aq Pi > Mars - PK 13 Vi 40' 56.92" Hast 2 Vi Ta > Mercury - GK 13 Le 23' 16.36" PPha 1 Le Le > Jupiter - AmK 26 Pi 07' 55.43" Reva 3 Pi Aq > Venus - PiK 14 Cn 56' 03.25" Push 4 Cn Sc > Saturn ® - AK 26 Cp 49' 40.83" Dhan 2 Cp Vi > Rahu - DK 25 Ge 45' 41.53" Puna 2 Ge Ta > Ketu 25 Sg 45' 41.53" PSha 4 Sg Sc > Maandi 23 Ge 34' 50.09" Puna 2 Ge Ta > Gulika 14 Ge 18' 49.06" Ardr 3 Ge Aq > Uranus 10 Le 57' 56.67" Magh 4 Le Cn > Neptune 19 Li 35' 26.77" Swat 4 Li Pi > Pluto 17 Le 36' 03.43" PPha 2 Le Vi > Bhava Lagna 16 Pi 15' 54.70" UBha 4 Pi Sc > Hora Lagna 12 Sc 04' 55.28" Anu 3 Sc Li > Ghati Lagna 29 Li 31' 57.03" Visa 3 Li Ge > Vighati Lagna 26 Le 47' 05.79" UPha 1 Le Sg > Varnada Lagna 14 Li 04' 55.90" Aswi 1 Li Aq > Sree Lagna 13 Pi 39' 55.89" UBha 4 Pi Sc > Pranapada Lagna 27 Le 24' 44.45" UPha 1 Le Sg > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ Mo / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ju \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x As x SaR | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Md \ 12 / AL \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Ra x Ke | > | \ / \ / | > | \ Gk / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Su Ve x Ma x HL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Me \ / GL \ | > | / \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Rah Rah 1945-08-15 Jup 1948-04-24 Sat 1950-09-21 > Merc 1953-07-27 Ket 1956-02-11 Ven 1957-02-28 > Sun 1960-02-29 Moon 1961-01-24 Mars 1962-07-27 > Jup Jup 1963-08-15 Sat 1965-10-03 Merc 1968-04-12 > Ket 1970-07-21 Ven 1971-06-26 Sun 1974-02-23 > Moon 1974-12-14 Mars 1976-04-12 Rah 1977-03-19 > Sat Sat 1979-08-15 Merc 1982-08-18 Ket 1985-04-24 > Ven 1986-06-04 Sun 1989-08-05 Moon 1990-07-18 > Mars 1992-02-14 Rah 1993-03-25 Jup 1996-01-31 > Merc Merc 1998-08-15 Ket 2001-01-09 Ven 2002-01-07 > Sun 2004-11-08 Moon 2005-09-15 Mars 2007-02-11 > Rah 2008-02-09 Jup 2010-08-31 Sat 2012-12-05 > Ket Ket 2015-08-16 Ven 2016-01-10 Sun 2017-03-10 > Moon 2017-07-18 Mars 2018-02-14 Rah 2018-07-15 > Jup 2019-08-03 Sat 2020-07-08 Merc 2021-08-18 > Ven Ven 2022-08-15 Sun 2025-12-14 Moon 2026-12-15 > Mars 2028-08-15 Rah 2029-10-16 Jup 2032-10-15 > Sat 2035-06-14 Merc 2038-08-15 Ket 2041-06-13 > Sun Sun 2042-08-15 Moon 2042-12-03 Mars 2043-06-01 > Rah 2043-10-10 Jup 2044-09-03 Sat 2045-06-20 > > > -- In , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krna || > > > > Dear Lakshmi-ji, > > > > namaskar. Actually this rule > is > > taught by Sanjay-ji and to us in this list by Visti-ji. The rule > is: > > Take the position of AK in the rasi chart. Now from this position, > take > > the MKS house of the AK itself. Hence, AK doesn't like this > position. > > So, any CK placed in this position will be rejected by Atman. > > > > Extending that, graha placed in the 12-th from Surya (Viswatmaan) > is > > rejected by the Surya. Graha placed in the 8th from Moon is > rejected > > (read disliked) by the mind of the person. 8th house is house of > rina > > (debts) and no one likes our debts and we are always worried about > the > > same. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================================= > > > > > > , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > Dear Supriti, > > > Just curious, how can Sat and Moon be in MKS 'from your AK '? > > > As far as I know this isnt the proper use of MKS. > > > MKS is a placement of a planet in a specific HOUSE from lagna.and > > > isnt seen any other way. > > > Saturn is in MKS in the lagna, and Moon is in MKS in the 8th > house. > > > Perhaps you meant something else? > > > Best Wishes > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > , "supriti108" supriti108@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Swami ji, > > > > > > > > I am so sorry I did not mean to imply that you doubted Visti > ji's > > > > teachings. I was just too eager to talk about my experiences, > > > > because after reading Visti ji's writings I finally understood > the > > > > meaning behind his recommendation. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > , "swami" <swami_rcs@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > Thanks for your additional inputs.I never doubted teachings > of > > > > Visti ji.I wanted to learn and am delighted to know one more > > > > principal observation .Now i have to apply and understand its > > > correct > > > > meaning.I have gone through serbia teachings in the mean time > but > > > has > > > > to still apply in few more cases, before i am convinced to > what is > > > > taught. > > > > > Thanks , your addition reinforces that remedies work and > worth > > > > study. > > > > > - > > > > > supriti108 > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:00 PM > > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > Dear Srivastva ji, > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to add my testament to Visti ji's analysis. > > > > > > > > > > I have Mo conjunct Sa in my chart, so Moon(children, mind) is > > > in > > > > MKS > > > > > to AK. When my daughter was about 2, I always felt like she > > > > rejected > > > > > me. Normally children cling to their mothers, but my daughter > > > > showed > > > > > no interest in me. I was extremely depressed. It was very > > > painful > > > > > for me. > > > > > > > > > > I got my atmalinga mantra in my dream and without me > > > > communicating > > > > > that to Visti ji, he suggested I do the same. It was a > > > miracle!! > > > > By > > > > > the grace of Shiva and Ma Durga, the problem is completely > > > solved. > > > > > > > > > > May Mahadeva and Ma Durga shower their blessings on all of > us. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > , Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > > > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > > > > > > The Marana Karaka Sthana of Mercury is also the seventh > > > house, > > > > is > > > > > it not? > > > > > > So the atma itself has rejected money in past lives and > this > > > is > > > > the > > > > > > problem. To improve the atma's understanding of the problem > > > we > > > > > worship > > > > > > the Shakti/mahavidya of the darakaraka itself. Similarly we > > > > worship > > > > > > Shiva for the problems faced by the atmakaraka. > > > > > > This was taught in the lectures on Darakaraka and > Atmakaraka > > > > during > > > > > the > > > > > > Serbia 2005 conference. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > Email: visti@ > > > > > > For Consultations and Articles visit: Terms of Use | Un Recent Activity 12 New Members Visit Your Group New web site? Drive traffic now. Get your business on search. Mail Next gen email? Try the all-new Mail Beta. Y! Messenger Instant hello Chat in real-time with your friends. . __,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Prafulla-ji, namaskar. First of all, AK's role is not spiritual growth but just to "experience". Based on its past experiences, it wants newer experiences, that is why existence goes not birth after birth. If AK's real goal was spiritual growth, it will immediately stop wanting experiences and end cylces of rebirth. When after a long long course, AK starts to realize that it is having similar experiences over and over, and this is meaningless, then realization dawns. That is why 12-th from AK in the Navamsa, is seen for the devata who will take us out of the cycle. BK indicates those group of people from who, Guru will come and shower blessings of knowledge (i.e. truth) so that we can realize our follies in wanting more experiences. Rejection etc. have an effect of suffering and there is also a learning process. Rejections necessarily means there is a lack of harmony. So when one rejects and suffers, one starts wanting back after realizing the mistake in opting for disharmony. Otherwise, if Amtan rejects spouse in every birth then there will be no end to it. It starts realizing that there is a necessity of a partner and intimacy. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ Dear Visti ji and Saurav ji, Namaskar Many thanks for elaborated notes. I have few confusions - Since AK has primary role for atma (spiritual growth), will it be still attached to maya (for accepting or rejecting other chara karakas if in MKS)? Also, if we take progression of chart (Nadi works on this) - will these acceptance / rejection have ageing (periodic) effects? regards / Prafulla Gang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Dear Saurav ji, Namaskar Many thanks. So, AK will lead us to experience - on final path of salvation. and MKS will bring in sufferings on account of respective chara karakas; until self realizes and gets out of bondage (karmic one !!). So - Can we extend the relative harmony (mutual) issue from other char karaka (i.e. MKS for each chara karaka). Will these mutual disharmony for being in MKS from AK - be limited to specific periods (dasha / progression etc)? and how can we judge the timing, when AK completes his experiences !! regards / Prafulla Gang "Principles have no real force except when one is well-fed." ************************************************ souravc108 Sent: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:02:54 -0000 To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] For Financial Crisis || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Prafulla-ji, namaskar. First of all, AK's role is not spiritual growth but just to "experience". Based on its past experiences, it wants newer experiences, that is why existence goes not birth after birth. If AK's real goal was spiritual growth, it will immediately stop wanting experiences and end cylces of rebirth. When after a long long course, AK starts to realize that it is having similar experiences over and over, and this is meaningless, then realization dawns. That is why 12-th from AK in the Navamsa, is seen for the devata who will take us out of the cycle. BK indicates those group of people from who, Guru will come and shower blessings of knowledge (i.e. truth) so that we can realize our follies in wanting more experiences. Rejection etc. have an effect of suffering and there is also a learning process. Rejections necessarily means there is a lack of harmony. So when one rejects and suffers, one starts wanting back after realizing the mistake in opting for disharmony. Otherwise, if Amtan rejects spouse in every birth then there will be no end to it. It starts realizing that there is a necessity of a partner and intimacy. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ Dear Visti ji and Saurav ji, Namaskar Many thanks for elaborated notes. I have few confusions - Since AK has primary role for atma (spiritual growth), will it be still attached to maya (for accepting or rejecting other chara karakas if in MKS)? Also, if we take progression of chart (Nadi works on this) - will these acceptance / rejection have ageing (periodic) effects? regards / Prafulla Gang __._,_.___ Terms of Use | Un Recent Activity 12 New Members Visit Your Group Mail Get on board You're invited to try the all-new Mail Beta. Y! Messenger Send pics quick Share photos while you IM friends. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. . __,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Prafulla-ji, namaskar. AK doesn't "know" about salvation. Ishta/Guru comes to tell us. Please recall the incident about Thakur Sri Raama Krsna and his earnest disciple Swami Vivekaananda. Swami Vivekananda got a taste of Nirvikalpa samadhi but Thakur said that he (i.e. Thakur) will keep the 'key' of that final experience (door to salvation) with him and will not give it to Swami-ji till the work of his life is completed. So Guru can open and close door for us and take the jivatman (soul under the shroud of maaya) by the ear and show him the path, when the soul is mature enough. Consider Chandra AK and Sukra MK in 8th from AK. From Sukra's position AK is in its MKS. From AK's position Sukra is in MKS. This is quite telling and it is a mutual rejection. Atmakaaraka Kendradi Rasi/Graha Dasa can point to these soul level impressions and received and progression derived therefrom. However, my understanding is not enough to talk on that. I would prefer if Guru's guide us. Udu dasas of the AK graha also show spiritual push but Udu Dasas are nakshatra based and show the mind's transformations. Mind is a layer through which Atman views the world, or rather, Atman is the passenger in the charriot and Mind is the driver. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================= Dear Saurav ji, Namaskar Many thanks. So, AK will lead us to experience - on final path of salvation. and MKS will bring in sufferings on account of respective chara karakas; until self realizes and gets out of bondage (karmic one !!). So - Can we extend the relative harmony (mutual) issue from other char karaka (i.e. MKS for each chara karaka). Will these mutual disharmony for being in MKS from AK - be limited to specific periods (dasha / progression etc)? and how can we judge the timing, when AK completes his experiences !! regards / Prafulla Gang "Principles have no real force except when one is well-fed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Hari, Namaskar. All eight chara karakas are actually part of our atma. These are the eight petals of the anahata chakra, seated in our heart. Each are our atma in various roles. The atmakaraka itself is the atma in its role of understanding or realizing itself based on the past life. The darakaraka is the atma in its role of fulfilling its desires from past birth. So the relationships between the chara karakas is the internal working of the atma with itself. This manifests outwardly when the naisargika karakas and lordships also get involved. Hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Jyotisa Shisya wrote: > |om| > Dear Visti, namaste > > We all have been taught that the atmakaraka is the king of the > horoscope. I cannot understand why you should consider MKS with > respect to other charakarakas? Please shed a little more light on this. > > In the first example given by you, the DK (Surya) rejects the AK > (Shukra). What does this exactly mean i.e., who is rejecting what? > > Supriti: What is the charakarakatwa of Moon which is conjoined your > AK? I am unable to understand how the AK can reject motherhood? > > best regards > Hari > > > > On 10/6/06, *Visti Larsen* <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar. > Just as Jupiter does not like to be placed in the third house, so > also will he reject any planets, arudha, etc. placed in the third > house from him. Similarly reckon from the other planets. > This becomes extremely relevant from the atmakaraka, as if the > self/atma rejects something, then the person will not see that in > their life. Also if other karakas reject the atma another problem > arises. > In this case the atmakaraka is Mercury, and so we must see the > fourth and seventh houses from Mercury. In this case jupiter > (naisargika dhana karaka) and Dara karaka (karaka for second house > and wealth according to parasara), is placed in such a malignant > place from Mercury thus causing financial problems. Now, the > darakaraka and matrikaraka are said to be our mother or devi > shakti. To remedy these problems he needs to worship Tara-devi, > but the remedy for Brahmin Shapa is not Tara worship. > > I have pasted two more charts with problems related to MKS below: > Natal Chart > August 17, 1971 > Time: 4:30:00 am > Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 92 W 28' 00", 15 N 09' 00" > Huixtla, Mexico > > In the given chart, the Sun is the second lord and chara > darakaraka, and the twelfth from it has the atmakaraka Venus. > AK-Venus is also in MKS from tenth lord and amatyakaraka Mars. > There is also a curse of spouse in the chart. > Using Lagna-Vimsottari, during Venus-Venus Dasa, the person > married, but due to complications with his mother (fourth lord > Venus) he lost his job (amatyakaraka) and found himself in a tight > bind financially. He was advised to worship Tryambakeshvara to fix > the problem, with the promise to also worship Kamalatmika > subsequently. > > Natal Chart > January 29, 1961 > Time: 2:10:00 am > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 81 E 42' 00", 16 N 45' 00" > Tanuku, India > > In this chart, Shani the atmakaraka is joined Guru. Guru is second > lord, darakaraka and naisargika dhanakaraka all relating to > finances. During Shukra-Shani dasa the persons finances were in > the red. > Yours sincerely, > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 |om| Dear Visti, namaste Thanks for your precise explanation. Somehow I got side-tracked by this 'AK is the king of the chart' and didnt realize that there is more to the astadala padma than is obvious. Oh, for a diksha Guru who can unlock the mysteries of creation. Sourav: You didnt explain what I asked Visti but anyway thanks for your thought-provoking words. See what I asked about motherhood...even the divinity-incarnate Krishna, who very well knew that Yasoda was not his biological mother, treated Yasoda with great love & affection and afforded Yasoda the ultimate glimpse of divinity. best regards Hari On 10/6/06, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear Hari, Namaskar. > All eight chara karakas are actually part of our atma. These are the eight > petals of the anahata chakra, seated in our heart. > Each are our atma in various roles. The atmakaraka itself is the atma in > its role of understanding or realizing itself based on the past life. The > darakaraka is the atma in its role of fulfilling its desires from past > birth. > So the relationships between the chara karakas is the internal working of > the atma with itself. This manifests outwardly when the naisargika karakas > and lordships also get involved. > Hope this helps. > Yours sincerely, > > Visti Larsen > Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > For Consultations and Articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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