Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Dear Group Members, Namaste. Though I am a new member but would definitely like to share some excerpts about Rudraksha, in reference to recent poll on this club: There is a traditional story mentioned on Page 43 of the book "Rudraksa by Subas Rai" (which I purchased on my last visit to India). It is said that there used to live a Brahmin named Giri NMath in Koshal. He was rich, religious and great scholar of Vedas. He had an initiated handsome son, named Gunanidhi. He enchanted Muktavati-wife of his mentor-sudhi Ganaby his magic personality. Some times past, he poisoned his mentor and became fearless. The moment his parents came to know about, he also posioned them. Having lost his wealth in enjoyment, he started thefts in house of Brahmins. He was abandoned by his kith and kin, because of being drunkard. He left for jungle alongwith Muktavati, and on the way he killed many Brahmins for the sake of money. When that wicked died many attendants of Yama (Lord of death) came to take him. Meanwhile attendents of Siva also reached there. O, son of Girija, there occured a protracted oral admonitions between both the parties about his destiny. The attendents of Yama inquired from attendents of Siva: why do they want to take him Sivaloka? They replied: because of being Rudraksa ten feet below he died. Guru Nidhi thus reached to Sivaloka. Such is the greatness of Rudraksha, capable of cleansing sins and providing merits. Juliane Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 This type of story is pretty silly don't you think? - julianeterry sacred-objects Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:17 AM Greatness of Rudraksha Dear Group Members, Namaste. Though I am a new member but would definitely like to share some excerpts about Rudraksha, in reference to recent poll on this club: There is a traditional story mentioned on Page 43 of the book "Rudraksa by Subas Rai" (which I purchased on my last visit to India). It is said that there used to live a Brahmin named Giri NMath in Koshal. He was rich, religious and great scholar of Vedas. He had an initiated handsome son, named Gunanidhi. He enchanted Muktavati-wife of his mentor-sudhi Ganaby his magic personality. Some times past, he poisoned his mentor and became fearless. The moment his parents came to know about, he also posioned them. Having lost his wealth in enjoyment, he started thefts in house of Brahmins. He was abandoned by his kith and kin, because of being drunkard. He left for jungle alongwith Muktavati, and on the way he killed many Brahmins for the sake of money. When that wicked died many attendants of Yama (Lord of death) came to take him. Meanwhile attendents of Siva also reached there. O, son of Girija, there occured a protracted oral admonitions between both the parties about his destiny. The attendents of Yama inquired from attendents of Siva: why do they want to take him Sivaloka? They replied: because of being Rudraksa ten feet below he died. Guru Nidhi thus reached to Sivaloka. Such is the greatness of Rudraksha, capable of cleansing sins and providing merits. Juliane Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Dear Sriman, Namaste!!! It is not completely silly because there is quite similar story in Bhagavat Puranam about the sinner Ajamila, being saved from Yama Dhutas, even though he appeared sinful, at the time of death he said the name "Narayana" and was saved by Vishnu Dhutas. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > This type of story is pretty silly don't you think? > > - > julianeterry > sacred-objects > Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:17 AM > Greatness of Rudraksha > > Dear Group Members, > > Namaste. Though I am a new member but would definitely like to share some excerpts about Rudraksha, in reference to recent poll on this club: > > There is a traditional story mentioned on Page 43 of the book "Rudraksa by Subas Rai" (which I purchased on my last visit to India). > > It is said that there used to live a Brahmin named Giri NMath in Koshal. He was rich, religious and great scholar of Vedas. He had an initiated handsome son, named Gunanidhi. He enchanted Muktavati-wife of his mentor-sudhi Ganaby his magic personality. Some times past, he poisoned his mentor and became fearless. The moment his parents came to know about, he also posioned them. Having lost his wealth in enjoyment, he started thefts in house of Brahmins. He was abandoned by his kith and kin, because of being drunkard. He left for jungle alongwith Muktavati, and on the way he killed many Brahmins for the sake of money. When that wicked died many attendants of Yama (Lord of death) came to take him. Meanwhile attendents of Siva also reached there. O, son of Girija, there occured a protracted oral admonitions between both the parties about his destiny. The attendents of Yama inquired from attendents of Siva: why do they want to take him Sivaloka? They replied: because of being Rudraksa ten feet below he died. > > Guru Nidhi thus reached to Sivaloka. Such is the greatness of Rudraksha, capable of cleansing sins and providing merits. > > Juliane Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Okay, but then it implies that you can be a serial killer/mass murderer, but will still go to the same place all the pious non killing souls go to as long as you wear a rudraksha (or even have one near by). This is not the message the Rishis, etc, wanted to convey. You can disagree if you like, but it doesn't change my thinking on the subject. Jai Maa! Surya - Richard Shaw-Brown sacred-objects Saturday, September 30, 2006 9:01 PM Re: Greatness of Rudraksha Dear Sriman, Namaste!!! It is not completely silly because there is quite similar story in Bhagavat Puranam about the sinner Ajamila, being saved from Yama Dhutas, even though he appeared sinful, at the time of death he said the name "Narayana" and was saved by Vishnu Dhutas. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > This type of story is pretty silly don't you think? > > - > julianeterry > sacred-objects > Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:17 AM > Greatness of Rudraksha > > Dear Group Members, > > Namaste. Though I am a new member but would definitely like to share some excerpts about Rudraksha, in reference to recent poll on this club: > > There is a traditional story mentioned on Page 43 of the book "Rudraksa by Subas Rai" (which I purchased on my last visit to India). > > It is said that there used to live a Brahmin named Giri NMath in Koshal. He was rich, religious and great scholar of Vedas. He had an initiated handsome son, named Gunanidhi. He enchanted Muktavati-wife of his mentor-sudhi Ganaby his magic personality. Some times past, he poisoned his mentor and became fearless. The moment his parents came to know about, he also posioned them. Having lost his wealth in enjoyment, he started thefts in house of Brahmins. He was abandoned by his kith and kin, because of being drunkard. He left for jungle alongwith Muktavati, and on the way he killed many Brahmins for the sake of money. When that wicked died many attendants of Yama (Lord of death) came to take him. Meanwhile attendents of Siva also reached there. O, son of Girija, there occured a protracted oral admonitions between both the parties about his destiny. The attendents of Yama inquired from attendents of Siva: why do they want to take him Sivaloka? They replied: because of being Rudraksa ten feet below he died. > > Guru Nidhi thus reached to Sivaloka. Such is the greatness of Rudraksha, capable of cleansing sins and providing merits. > > Juliane Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Sriman Surya, Namaste!!! I agree with you. Sukriti is the cause of getting a Rudraksha or chanting Hari Name at the time of death. But one should not sin on the strength of Rudraksha or Hari Nam. It is said of Ajamila that because of his sukriti the Holy Name came to mind exactly at the time of death, when he was in complete anxiety and so he chanted the Nam without offence (in spite of his past). If one sins on the strength of holy object or holy name that is Aparadha. Of course it is not reasonable to say a sinful life is allowed on strength of anything. It is equally nonsense to say an innocent man goes to hell for touching Rudraksha (without first paying a brahmin to enchant the seed). So both examples, for and against, are extremes to be avoided and one should follow the middle path, the sensible path. And when reading Shastra one has to retain common sense. Threats are totally unacceptable. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > Okay, but then it implies that you can be a serial killer/mass murderer, but will still go to the same place all the pious non killing souls go to as long as you wear a rudraksha (or even have one near by). > > This is not the message the Rishis, etc, wanted to convey. You can disagree if you like, but it doesn't change my thinking on the subject. > > Jai Maa! > > Surya > - > Richard Shaw-Brown > sacred-objects > Saturday, September 30, 2006 9:01 PM > Re: Greatness of Rudraksha > > > Dear Sriman, > > Namaste!!! It is not completely silly because there is quite similar > story in Bhagavat Puranam about the sinner Ajamila, being saved from > Yama Dhutas, even though he appeared sinful, at the time of death he > said the name "Narayana" and was saved by Vishnu Dhutas. > > Best wishes, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni@> > wrote: > > > > This type of story is pretty silly don't you think? > > > > - > > julianeterry > > sacred-objects > > Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:17 AM > > Greatness of Rudraksha > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > Namaste. Though I am a new member but would definitely like to > share some excerpts about Rudraksha, in reference to recent poll on > this club: > > > > There is a traditional story mentioned on Page 43 of the book > "Rudraksa by Subas Rai" (which I purchased on my last visit to India). > > > > It is said that there used to live a Brahmin named Giri NMath in > Koshal. He was rich, religious and great scholar of Vedas. He had an > initiated handsome son, named Gunanidhi. He enchanted Muktavati-wife > of his mentor-sudhi Ganaby his magic personality. Some times past, he > poisoned his mentor and became fearless. The moment his parents came > to know about, he also posioned them. Having lost his wealth in > enjoyment, he started thefts in house of Brahmins. He was abandoned by > his kith and kin, because of being drunkard. He left for jungle > alongwith Muktavati, and on the way he killed many Brahmins for the > sake of money. When that wicked died many attendants of Yama (Lord of > death) came to take him. Meanwhile attendents of Siva also reached > there. O, son of Girija, there occured a protracted oral admonitions > between both the parties about his destiny. The attendents of Yama > inquired from attendents of Siva: why do they want to take him > Sivaloka? They replied: because of being Rudraksa ten feet below he died. > > > > Guru Nidhi thus reached to Sivaloka. Such is the greatness of > Rudraksha, capable of cleansing sins and providing merits. > > > > Juliane Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! Hare Krishna! Dear Shri Surya Narayana!!! Pranams! It is your-self's illusion to think the way HE wants it. You do not think, HE thinks. Anyways my-self will copy some of the Sri Vaishnavas text about Sri Saligramams. In the text below your-self will read the line where HE absorbs the sins, and does not mean you go ahead and start it. The last line holds good for Shri Rudraksha as well. The scared holy things have power and wheel of time on its own. HE decides who get blessed, even if the person is a Gnani. A highly devoted -self- appears crazy for a so called -normal- human being. Devotion is a form of crazy -self- The folks who sell Rudraksha's DO NOT EVER UTTER THAT RUDRAKSHA should be given by HIS GURU, but now people (human beings) *energize* the Rudraksha. How can anyone energize Lord Shri Parameshwara. Just sit towards North and meditate towards Sri Aghora, your-self will realize what my-self is trying to tell you. My -self- completely agrees with Sri Sriman Richard Prabhu. His-self views might have been to the *bindu* on the subject but that is how Lord Shri Shiva is to the point. Please let us move on to another thread, *ego, emotion* of all our-selves should be eradicated immediately. SubhaM Astu! Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanam Astu! Thanks and Best Regards Haribol, pradeep One who desires expiation of the sins perpetrated since birth, he should remove (completely) the water of SaaLigraamam. Salutations to you (who removes the water from saaLigrAmam after bathing). One should hold the water (thus obtained from washing the Feet of Lord VishNu) in his palm and drink. It drives away untimely death. It destroys all illnesses. The water sprinkled on human beings burns away even the sin of killing a brahmin. One obtains the same benefits of performance of 1000 (agnishtOma) yaagams with agni and 100 vajapeya sacrifices, if one consumes the food offered to saaLigraamam (i.e. Lord VishNu) If one bathes Saaligraamam (Lord VishNu’s Feet) with water and offers thuLasi leaves at His Feet, he would obtain the merit equivalent to crores of puNyams. Even if a saaLigraamam is broken or cracked, or burnt in fire, there is no harm; He is Blemishless; Faultless; There is no demerit in Him. Worshipping saaLigraamam qucikly destroys any sin arising out of brahmahayta, or any sin arising out of body, mind and speech. It will confer all benefits on you, when you worship saaLigraamam. The saaLigrAmam is arisen out of Sriman Narayanan. It has developed a wheel within it by its own action. It has the capacity to grant boons. One should always take the water from the Feet of Lord VishNu (saaLigraamam); the flowers and thuLasi leaves bedecked on Him should be placed on one’s head; food offered to Him should be consumed along with a thuLasi leaf. A little portion of saaLigraamam will absolve you from even the killing of one crore jIvAs. (*doesn't mean you go ahead killing:-) *) One should always meditate on saaLigramam and worship Him. Best of the brahmin should repeat this everyday. Such a person will go the ultimate place where Sriman Narayanan resides; He will be absolved from all sins and reach Sri VishNulOkam. One who performs the worship of Lord VishNu through saaLigraama shila, he will obtain the desired empire. He will see all ten avtaars of Lord VishNu. All sins performed in crores of one’s lives are destroyed by sipping water from the Feet of Lord VishNu (i.e. saaLigraamam). No water should be dropped. PLEASE DO NOT WORRY ABOUT what harm it would bring as you do not know the type and nature of SaaLigraamam. No harm would happen to you. How can there be harm by doing a good holy deed? Also we perform with SathvIka tyAgam and for Bhagawath preethi. Mahamuni Das <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: Okay, but then it implies that you can be a serial killer/mass murderer, but will still go to the same place all the pious non killing souls go to as long as you wear a rudraksha (or even have one near by). This is not the message the Rishis, etc, wanted to convey. You can disagree if you like, but it doesn't change my thinking on the subject. Jai Maa! Surya - Richard Shaw-Brown sacred-objects Saturday, September 30, 2006 9:01 PM Re: Greatness of Rudraksha Dear Sriman, Namaste!!! It is not completely silly because there is quite similar story in Bhagavat Puranam about the sinner Ajamila, being saved from Yama Dhutas, even though he appeared sinful, at the time of death he said the name "Narayana" and was saved by Vishnu Dhutas. Best wishes, Richard sacred-objects, "Mahamuni Das" <mahamuni wrote: > > This type of story is pretty silly don't you think? > > - > julianeterry > sacred-objects > Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:17 AM > Greatness of Rudraksha > > Dear Group Members, > > Namaste. Though I am a new member but would definitely like to share some excerpts about Rudraksha, in reference to recent poll on this club: > > There is a traditional story mentioned on Page 43 of the book "Rudraksa by Subas Rai" (which I purchased on my last visit to India). > > It is said that there used to live a Brahmin named Giri NMath in Koshal. He was rich, religious and great scholar of Vedas. He had an initiated handsome son, named Gunanidhi. He enchanted Muktavati-wife of his mentor-sudhi Ganaby his magic personality. Some times past, he poisoned his mentor and became fearless. The moment his parents came to know about, he also posioned them. Having lost his wealth in enjoyment, he started thefts in house of Brahmins. He was abandoned by his kith and kin, because of being drunkard. He left for jungle alongwith Muktavati, and on the way he killed many Brahmins for the sake of money. When that wicked died many attendants of Yama (Lord of death) came to take him. Meanwhile attendents of Siva also reached there. O, son of Girija, there occured a protracted oral admonitions between both the parties about his destiny. The attendents of Yama inquired from attendents of Siva: why do they want to take him Sivaloka? They replied: because of being Rudraksa ten feet below he died. > > Guru Nidhi thus reached to Sivaloka. Such is the greatness of Rudraksha, capable of cleansing sins and providing merits. > > Juliane Terry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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