Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Dear Narasmhaye Ji wow.......right when you think you understand something all kinds of things take place.......once I mentioned the CD at Rudra Center for proper pronounciation on the group site Mrs Neeta sent me a message saying she has found CDS in our CD collection where the pronounciation of Gum and Gana and Gang for Lord Ganaesha are all over the board on some of the Cds she has there........in addition she says the mantras for other Devas are chanted in different manners and different tones also.........was thinking this must be depending on the School and Training and location in India where the Priests were trained.....learning new things each day looks like.....although the different bij mantras are quite specifically chanted and toned they are in fact different and all seem to be correct from Gum to Gana of GaNg Wishing you and Family the Best DD , rudracenter <no_reply wrote: > > Dear Narasimhaye Ji > > had a thought that would help.......if you get the CD from Rudra > Centers book and cd section from the MahaGanapati Temple in Mumbai > India where the Senior Priests who chant the prayers to Lord Ganesha > go through more than a 10 year training program you will have proof > that the bij mantra for Lord Ganesha is pronounced as Gum as in > chewing gum and is the only bij mantra I have been able to hear on > this tape....there is nothing on the cd that resembles the word > Gung..........am sure you would agree that if these Priests of Lord > Ganesha pronounce this bij mantra in this manner then there is > little room to disagree and say this is the wrong way to pronounce > > hope this helps....should have thought of this before however got to > involved in trying to explain this myself........proof is in > listening to the CD > > Wishing you and Family the Best > > DD > > , narasimhaye > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Sri Dharma Dev, thank you for your educational message but may I > digress > > with a few parts. Please note this is not a debate but rather to > assist > > friends in gaining a better understanding who come from differrent > > backgrounds and traditional religious lineages: > > > > > > , rudracenter > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > Again by chanting Sri Anjanaayaya Namaha means that the son of > > > Anjanaa is being honored by respecting the Mother.... > > > > The Mother is the Shakti. When a person honors the Mother as well > as the > > Son, the potency is stronger. This mantra is further enhanced by > Shakti > > aspect. Kinda also like paying respects to elders before younger > > people. Rank and file in a sense. > > > > By useing a > > > word or words for a Devi that are meant to be part of a larger > > > Astotara or Chalisa then one is kind of leaveing out all the > other > > > aspects of the Deva......... > > > > Not so becos both are honored at same time, Deva and Devi. > > > > Is best to refer to Lord Hanuman as Lord > > > Hanuman and then you have all powers of Lord Hanuman in one > > > chanting.......... > > > > Agree absolutely for persons who feel attuned to doing this way. > > > > by addressing Lord Hanuman as Lord Ajaneya one is only appealing > to the > > son by way of the Mother. > > > > When Son is appealed to by way of Mother or Shakti, the Shakti > supports > > and empowers the mantra even more. Shakti is Omnipresent and > Pervades > > all realms. > > > > > > > The difficulty I have found with anyone only speaking about Lord > > > Anjaneya is that it only refers to one aspect of the total Lord > > > Hanuman enegy so why not just go to the source and chant Aum Sri > > > Hanumate Namaha > > > > Again agree, but only for those who are inclined or attuned to > chanting > > this particular mantra. If one wants more potency and only wants > to > > appeal to the Deva aspect, then the adding of Aum at the end of > this > > mantra will empower it further too. > > > > > >Gum Gum Gum Gum and you are includeing > > > all the is Lord Ganesha > > > > Gum and Gam are technically traditionally correct, yet wrong. But > then > > there is no right or wrong if the chanter recites with sincere > devotion. > > Gum, Gum, Gum as in pronunciation "chewing gum" means "Grief, > Grief, > > Grief" when spoken verbally. In verbal pronunciation, correct > sound is > > GuNg. In silent chanting "Gum or Gam" are fine. Imagine someone > who > > goes "Om Gum (Grief) Ganapataye Namaha" -- the person therefore is > > asking Ganapthi to bring grief, instead of removing obstacles. > This is > > why some people say they get no results but more strife in their > lives > > after praying to Lord Ganapathi ) > > > > > > > There is lot of room for debate on this however from what I have > > > studied I simply dont see Lord Hanuman as Lord Anjaneya because > > > chanting to HIM as Lord Anjaneya is like leaveing out all his > other > > > aspects > > > > With all due respect, no debate here, not debating here. Just to > share > > a few tidbits: Every person has the right to see what he or she > wants > > to see or believe in. We all respect one another's beliefs and > > religious backgrounds. I sincerely respect yours too. But > chanting to > > Hanuman as Anjaneya does not leave out all His other aspects, it > > empowers all those other aspects instead. > > > > > > hope this makes some sort of sense.........it is most fruitful to > > > concentrate on one aspect of any Devas Energy be chanting one of > > > their many aspects however why stop there and limit > oneself.....why > > > not go to the source itself > > > > Devas would not come into existence without the efforts of Devis. > > Mothers (Shakti or Devi) are the ones who gave birth (existence) to > > Devas. Hence there is also no Shiva without Shakti. Its kinda > like > > Shiva is Rudraksh and the electromagnetic properties are Shakti, > the > > "subtle life force". > > > > > > > this is only ones understanding........there is always room for > > > other understanding > > > > Thanks sincerely for saying there is always room for other > > understanding. That's where I'm coming from: "other understanding". > > > > Ommmmm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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