Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 If you observe carefully the present tradition itself, you can get the whole concept without referring to any Holy Scripture. When a householder dies the rituals are performed and a cow is donated so that the diseased person can cross ‘Vaitarini’ (river of blood and pus) present before hell. This clearly shows that every householder is going to hell. The householder is doing Gayatri Japa, wearing the cross belt, worshipping the inert statues and photos etc., When a saint dies such rituals are not performed. This clearly proves that a saint goes to Brahma Loka and not to the Hell. The saint leaves Gayatri Japa, throws away the cross belts, does not worship inert statues and photos. A saint always propagates the divine knowledge in the world. The present tradition also shows that all the householders prostrate at the feet of the saint. This shows that the stage of the saint is certainly higher than the stage of the householder. This shows that everybody should pass from high school to the college. All the rituals should be protected like the high school for the future ignorant batches. We never say that since you left the school the school should be destroyed. We are saying only that you should leave the school and go to the college i.e., you should not die as a householder but you should die as a saint. Leaving the house and wearing the saffron cloth are not necessary for a saint, which are external only. A policeman sometimes does his duty in mufti without the uniform. An actor wearing the police uniform cannot be the real police. Therefore anybody can become a saint by participating in the propagation of divine knowledge and working for the welfare of the entire humanity without the saffron cloth and without leaving the house. A householder is burning camphor, fume sticks, oil and ghee in the lamps and in Yajnas causing lot of pollution and stopping the rains. He is harming the humanity by such foolish deeds, which are not mentioned in Vedas. Some ignorant preachers fooled public by such deeds and he is not benefited at all. A saint never does these things because he cannot be fooled since he attained the Jnana. Therefore confining to the present tradition itself, one can get the true knowledge without going to the scriptures. The ancient Indian sages (rishis) who are the real saints set up this tradition. When you do not understand even the tradition that is before your eyes, how can you understand the Vedas and Sastras? at the lotus feet of datta swami surya Deepa H <debu7366 > wrote: Why do we light a lamp? In almost every Indian home a lamp is lit daily before the altar of the Lord. In some houses it is lit at dawn, in some, twice a day – at dawn and dusk – and in a few it is maintained continuously (Akhanda Deepa). All auspicious functions commence with the lighting of the lamp, which is often maintained right through the occasion. . Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 , prakki surya <dattapr2000 wrote: This clearly shows that every householder is going to hell. This clearly proves that a saint goes to Brahma Loka and not to the Hell. ---------------------------- Dear surya your presumption that every householder goes to hell is wrong as there are 100s of examples where the householder got moksha. Lahiri Mahasya, paramguru of Yogananda was a householder and was enlightened. Krishna's guru Sandipi was also householder and had wife and child. Also not that all saints go to Brahmloka. Last rituals are not done in case of Sanyasis only...not for all saints. Sanyasis too before entering into sanyaas, performs his own last rituals. love baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 True Babaji. In fact, all our Vedic Rishis were married and had kids. The ascetic path is actually quiet new- mainly popularised by Shankaracharya and his followers in the 10th century. To this Sri Aurobindo wrote that the invasions and crushing of India was a lesson taught to Hindus not to ignore civilization and culture. This teaching taken to an extreme resulted in "Nari narak ka dwar hai"(Women re doorway to hell) type of philosophy. This led to a violent reaction from Nature with the result that Hinduism was brought to its knees. We have to make spiritual progress, but not at the expense of society. Such selfish ascetism makes nature angry, and invites a wrathful response from her. There is a need to go back to our Vedic roots- the Vedic Rishis lived in harmony with nature, they married, they helped society and ordinary people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 dear babji sorry for the late reply. You are true. But a saint is one who participates in the propagation of divine knowledge. Anybody wearing saffron cannot be a saint or Sanyasi. The very renunciation or sanyasa is for participating in the mission of lord. I believe you accept this. thank you for your reply. at the lotus feet of swamji surya Baba ji <beirut_ka_baba > wrote: Dear surya Also not that all saints go to Brahmloka. Last rituals are not done in case of Sanyasis only...not for all saints. Sanyasis too before entering into sanyaas, performs his own last rituals. love baba . Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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