Reflections on the Divine Guru (for PDK Kotak and all)

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Namaste PDK Kotak,

 

I believe we've talked about this matter before because I have your

chart in my computer files. Nonetheliss, in your chart, the exalted

Jupiter and Venus in the 12th house are good for moksha. Given the

topic discussed, you should have no problem in gaining the advantages

of the 12th house--that is the experience of samadhi. The ancient

jyotish texts say that a person with benefic planets in the 12th

house will go to heaven.

 

You should consult with a qualified guru to learn how to meditate.

This is the best way to understand and experience samadhi.

 

Your prayers are fine. You should do them to increase your faith.

It is possible for you to experience samadhi with your regular

prayers. But it may take a long time to attain it. This is because

prayers are too long.

 

In meditation, the guru uses specific sound values which have been

validated through time and tradition to allow the mind to gain deep

rest and contentment. By eliminating the various stresses in the

mind, one can eventually experience samadhi.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote:

>

> Dear John,

>

> I am reading all yr comments all the time and some of the have

been kept for my reference in file all the time - since u are talking

about 4th house and 9th as well as 12th house - 8th house and which

is moksha - plus samadhi etc.,

> can u help me in understanding the following -

> Asc. is Leo with Sun , mercurey and neptune

> 8th house has Rahu and 12th house has Venus and Jupitor =

> Although I am always doing the prayers - very regularly -

>

> sometime ago i did felt situation like samadhi - am I doing

something which incorrect or what -please guide me.

>

> I do not know u will need my birth details or not. but i feel

like giving hereunder in case if u like to look at it

>

> DOB 18TH AUGUST 1931

> POB KARACHI (NOW IN PAKISTAN)

> TOB 08-OO AM.

>

> what I need is further guidance from u -

>

> I thank you very much for yr help in this subject, please help

me - but if u want ignore my request it is upto u - but it will

definitely help me in life further.

> Tahnking u once again pdk

> John <jr_esq wrote:

> To all members:

>

> If we take the 9th house as the bhava of the Divine Guru, we will

> find these revelations:

>

> 1. The home (4th house affair) of the guru is our 12th house of

> loss! At the higher level of consciousness, the 12th house

> represents meditation. As such, it is the realm of the absolute,

> samadhi, or transcendental consciousness.

>

> The trines to this house are the 4th and 8th houses which are the

> moksha houses. Therefore, we experience the transforming effects of

> the guru's teachings in our homes and through our mothers (the 4th

> house). In physical terms, our 4th house is the house of death of

> the guru because it is the 8th house from the 9th house. Thus, when

> the guru dies, we feel the sorrow very deeply in our hearts.

>

> The 8th house is our house of transformation or death. Yet, it is

> the guru's house of bliss, in that the 8th house is the 12th from

the

> 9th house. In other words, "it is in dying that we are born to

> eternal life"(per prayer of St. Francis Assisi).

>

> At the lower level of consciousness, the 8th house is the house of

> traitors, being the 12th house of the guru's house. Therefore, it

is

> understandable that the fate of the traitor is death, as Judas

> Iscariot had experienced.

>

> 2. The first house represents us, the future and children of the

> guru's teachings. This house and the 5th house of children are the

> trines of the 9th house. Therefore, we have a common bond with the

> guru in the physical realm. In other words, he is us, you are he,

> and our children as well. (a paraphrase of a Beatles song)

>

> 3. The guru's desires are the disciples' desires because all of the

> kama houses are the same for both the guru and disciples. For

> example, our 7th house is the guru's 11th house of desire.

>

> 4. The guru's field to action is to solve all of our problems,

since

> his 10th house is our 6th house of challenges, debts and diseases.

> Based on this, we can understand the triune relationship of the

artha

> houses from the standpoint of the 9th house.

>

> Specifically, the trines to the guru's 10th house are the second

and

> 6th house. Therefore, his wealth (2nd house) is our field of

action,

> our work, and careers (10th house affairs). His service (6th house

> affair) to provide us with what we ask for is our wealth and family

> (2nd house).

>

> If we go through the same iterations for the other houses, we will

> find solutions to every facet of our lives and validation of

> teachings by the ancient rishis and prophets, including the clue to

> finding peace in the world.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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Many Many thanks for yr reply, now I shall have to look for Good Guide (Guru)

I really appreciate your comments from the bottom of my heart, regards pdk

 

John <jr_esq > wrote:

Namaste PDK Kotak,

 

I believe we've talked about this matter before because I have your

chart in my computer files. Nonetheliss, in your chart, the exalted

Jupiter and Venus in the 12th house are good for moksha. Given the

topic discussed, you should have no problem in gaining the advantages

of the 12th house--that is the experience of samadhi. The ancient

jyotish texts say that a person with benefic planets in the 12th

house will go to heaven.

 

You should consult with a qualified guru to learn how to meditate.

This is the best way to understand and experience samadhi.

 

Your prayers are fine. You should do them to increase your faith.

It is possible for you to experience samadhi with your regular

prayers. But it may take a long time to attain it. This is because

prayers are too long.

 

In meditation, the guru uses specific sound values which have been

validated through time and tradition to allow the mind to gain deep

rest and contentment. By eliminating the various stresses in the

mind, one can eventually experience samadhi.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

valist, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote:

>

> Dear John,

>

> I am reading all yr comments all the time and some of the have

been kept for my reference in file all the time - since u are talking

about 4th house and 9th as well as 12th house - 8th house and which

is moksha - plus samadhi etc.,

> can u help me in understanding the following -

> Asc. is Leo with Sun , mercurey and neptune

> 8th house has Rahu and 12th house has Venus and Jupitor =

> Although I am always doing the prayers - very regularly -

>

> sometime ago i did felt situation like samadhi - am I doing

something which incorrect or what -please guide me.

>

> I do not know u will need my birth details or not. but i feel

like giving hereunder in case if u like to look at it

>

> DOB 18TH AUGUST 1931

> POB KARACHI (NOW IN PAKISTAN)

> TOB 08-OO AM.

>

> what I need is further guidance from u -

>

> I thank you very much for yr help in this subject, please help

me - but if u want ignore my request it is upto u - but it will

definitely help me in life further.

> Tahnking u once again pdk

> John <jr_esq wrote:

> To all members:

>

> If we take the 9th house as the bhava of the Divine Guru, we will

> find these revelations:

>

> 1. The home (4th house affair) of the guru is our 12th house of

> loss! At the higher level of consciousness, the 12th house

> represents meditation. As such, it is the realm of the absolute,

> samadhi, or transcendental consciousness.

>

> The trines to this house are the 4th and 8th houses which are the

> moksha houses. Therefore, we experience the transforming effects of

> the guru's teachings in our homes and through our mothers (the 4th

> house). In physical terms, our 4th house is the house of death of

> the guru because it is the 8th house from the 9th house. Thus, when

> the guru dies, we feel the sorrow very deeply in our hearts.

>

> The 8th house is our house of transformation or death. Yet, it is

> the guru's house of bliss, in that the 8th house is the 12th from

the

> 9th house. In other words, "it is in dying that we are born to

> eternal life"(per prayer of St. Francis Assisi).

>

> At the lower level of consciousness, the 8th house is the house of

> traitors, being the 12th house of the guru's house. Therefore, it

is

> understandable that the fate of the traitor is death, as Judas

> Iscariot had experienced.

>

> 2. The first house represents us, the future and children of the

> guru's teachings. This house and the 5th house of children are the

> trines of the 9th house. Therefore, we have a common bond with the

> guru in the physical realm. In other words, he is us, you are he,

> and our children as well. (a paraphrase of a Beatles song)

>

> 3. The guru's desires are the disciples' desires because all of the

> kama houses are the same for both the guru and disciples. For

> example, our 7th house is the guru's 11th house of desire.

>

> 4. The guru's field to action is to solve all of our problems,

since

> his 10th house is our 6th house of challenges, debts and diseases.

> Based on this, we can understand the triune relationship of the

artha

> houses from the standpoint of the 9th house.

>

> Specifically, the trines to the guru's 10th house are the second

and

> 6th house. Therefore, his wealth (2nd house) is our field of

action,

> our work, and careers (10th house affairs). His service (6th house

> affair) to provide us with what we ask for is our wealth and family

> (2nd house).

>

> If we go through the same iterations for the other houses, we will

> find solutions to every facet of our lives and validation of

> teachings by the ancient rishis and prophets, including the clue to

> finding peace in the world.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

"When the field is ready, the seed WILL come". This is a spiritual law.

 

One doesn't have to look for a guru. The guru will find the disciple when

he is ready.

 

Vaidun Vidyadhar

Tamworth

Australia

 

_____

 

valist [valist] On Behalf Of

pdk kotak

Wednesday, 20 September 2006 04:38

valist

Re: Reflections on the Divine Guru (for PDK Kotak and all)

 

 

 

Many Many thanks for yr reply, now I shall have to look for Good Guide

(Guru)

I really appreciate your comments from the bottom of my heart, regards pdk

 

John <jr_esq (AT) (DOT) <jr_esq%40> com> wrote:

Namaste PDK Kotak,

 

I believe we've talked about this matter before because I have your

chart in my computer files. Nonetheliss, in your chart, the exalted

Jupiter and Venus in the 12th house are good for moksha. Given the

topic discussed, you should have no problem in gaining the advantages

of the 12th house--that is the experience of samadhi. The ancient

jyotish texts say that a person with benefic planets in the 12th

house will go to heaven.

 

You should consult with a qualified guru to learn how to meditate.

This is the best way to understand and experience samadhi.

 

Your prayers are fine. You should do them to increase your faith.

It is possible for you to experience samadhi with your regular

prayers. But it may take a long time to attain it. This is because

prayers are too long.

 

In meditation, the guru uses specific sound values which have been

validated through time and tradition to allow the mind to gain deep

rest and contentment. By eliminating the various stresses in the

mind, one can eventually experience samadhi.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

valist (AT) (DOT) <valist%40> com, pdk kotak

<ganeshji101 wrote:

>

> Dear John,

>

> I am reading all yr comments all the time and some of the have

been kept for my reference in file all the time - since u are talking

about 4th house and 9th as well as 12th house - 8th house and which

is moksha - plus samadhi etc.,

> can u help me in understanding the following -

> Asc. is Leo with Sun , mercurey and neptune

> 8th house has Rahu and 12th house has Venus and Jupitor =

> Although I am always doing the prayers - very regularly -

>

> sometime ago i did felt situation like samadhi - am I doing

something which incorrect or what -please guide me.

>

> I do not know u will need my birth details or not. but i feel

like giving hereunder in case if u like to look at it

>

> DOB 18TH AUGUST 1931

> POB KARACHI (NOW IN PAKISTAN)

> TOB 08-OO AM.

>

> what I need is further guidance from u -

>

> I thank you very much for yr help in this subject, please help

me - but if u want ignore my request it is upto u - but it will

definitely help me in life further.

> Tahnking u once again pdk

> John <jr_esq wrote:

> To all members:

>

> If we take the 9th house as the bhava of the Divine Guru, we will

> find these revelations:

>

> 1. The home (4th house affair) of the guru is our 12th house of

> loss! At the higher level of consciousness, the 12th house

> represents meditation. As such, it is the realm of the absolute,

> samadhi, or transcendental consciousness.

>

> The trines to this house are the 4th and 8th houses which are the

> moksha houses. Therefore, we experience the transforming effects of

> the guru's teachings in our homes and through our mothers (the 4th

> house). In physical terms, our 4th house is the house of death of

> the guru because it is the 8th house from the 9th house. Thus, when

> the guru dies, we feel the sorrow very deeply in our hearts.

>

> The 8th house is our house of transformation or death. Yet, it is

> the guru's house of bliss, in that the 8th house is the 12th from

the

> 9th house. In other words, "it is in dying that we are born to

> eternal life"(per prayer of St. Francis Assisi).

>

> At the lower level of consciousness, the 8th house is the house of

> traitors, being the 12th house of the guru's house. Therefore, it

is

> understandable that the fate of the traitor is death, as Judas

> Iscariot had experienced.

>

> 2. The first house represents us, the future and children of the

> guru's teachings. This house and the 5th house of children are the

> trines of the 9th house. Therefore, we have a common bond with the

> guru in the physical realm. In other words, he is us, you are he,

> and our children as well. (a paraphrase of a Beatles song)

>

> 3. The guru's desires are the disciples' desires because all of the

> kama houses are the same for both the guru and disciples. For

> example, our 7th house is the guru's 11th house of desire.

>

> 4. The guru's field to action is to solve all of our problems,

since

> his 10th house is our 6th house of challenges, debts and diseases.

> Based on this, we can understand the triune relationship of the

artha

> houses from the standpoint of the 9th house.

>

> Specifically, the trines to the guru's 10th house are the second

and

> 6th house. Therefore, his wealth (2nd house) is our field of

action,

> our work, and careers (10th house affairs). His service (6th house

> affair) to provide us with what we ask for is our wealth and family

> (2nd house).

>

> If we go through the same iterations for the other houses, we will

> find solutions to every facet of our lives and validation of

> teachings by the ancient rishis and prophets, including the clue to

> finding peace in the world.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps

for FREE with Photos. Get Photos

>

>