Anjaneya & Hanuman [same]

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Dear Friends

 

to clarify what I have really felt about the mention of the words

Lord Anjenaya is hidden in the context of trying to transliterate

the Sanskrit language from the Devanagari Alphabet side to the

english side........although in modern times many english words in

modern Hindu are printed in Devanagari in India.......some of the

english words never had a meaning in the original Sanskrit....and in

the opposite many of the Sanskrit words do not have a meaning in

english print

 

I really get frustrated sometimes when the use of the masculine word

Lord is used in conjuction with a female name

 

Lord in english is masculine and Goddess in english is

feminine.........in Sanskrit there is the word Sri that takes care

of the difficulty in transliteration to english as Sri can be

masculine or feminine...........however the only way a reader would

know if the Deva was masculine or femine or what the mantra was

referrng to is if they had a background in Hindu History

 

only if the reader of the verse knows that Lord Ganesha is masculine

and Goddess MahaLakshmi is feminine can the full truth of

transliteration be known...some do not know this

 

In our group most everyone knows if you say Sri Ganesha one is

describeing a male Lord Ganesha and then if one chants Sri

MahaLakshmi most everyone knows that this is referring to Goddess

MahaLakshmi.........however not everyone is educated to know

this............to refer to Lord Hanuman as Lord Anjaneya is so

foreign to my understanding of who and what Lord Hanuman represents

that it simply doesnt work for me......what works for me is Sri

Anjaneya as it takes in the entire energy of all

concerned.......have found that I dont even want to consider the

words Lord Anjaneya except in the context of an Astotara....... and

the words should be Sri Anjaneya

 

However for others they will have no difficulty with this at all as

it is not an issue for them............in the course of my education

I have been taught that what remains......... is that India is a

culture of many different philosophies on the same subject

matter....... and many different interpretations of the same issue

to be discussed.......there really is no right or wrong answer to

some of this.....is only a matter of preference and need and praying

to the Deva of choice

 

For some Lord Anjaneya will work wonders and for others the image of

he Greatest Siddha in existence will continue to be prayed to as

Lord Hanuman

 

am sure you can see how this can get mixed up.......going to a Deva

named as Lord Anjaneya is like going to the mother to see the son

when the son is readily available as Aum Sri Hanumate Ramaha

 

hope this makes sense and sheds some light on how others see the

world we live in

 

Aum Nama Sivaya Sivaya Nama Aum

Aum Namo Hanumate Rudra Avataraya

Parayentra Mantra Tantra Trataka Nashakaya

Sri Rama Dutaya Swaha

 

Wishing you and Family the Best

 

DharmaDev Arya

 

, rudracenter

<no_reply wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Friends

>

> This is a good philosophical discussion and seems we are all

basicly

> right in this......... I apologize to the group for not thinking

the

> original question through and was wrong in saying that I had never

> heard of wording of Lord Anjaneya

>

> However there is a most certain distinction that is mentioned by

all

> of us and at the same time not spoken of

> specifically............Anjanaa is the mother of Lord Hanuman and

> Vayu is the wind that is the Father of Lord Hanuman

>

> When referring to Lord Hanuman in the Lord Anjaneya ( Hanuman )

> Astotara he is called by one of his many aspects as Aum Angeneyaya

> Namaha in the first Mantra............however the Title of the

> Astotara is written as Sri Angeneya ( Hanuman ) Astotara....with

the

> word Hanuman in parenthesis showing the true meaning of the

Astotara

> that is for Lord Hanuman

>

> There is no word Sri or Lord in front of the word Anjaneyaya in

the

> first verse of this Astotara.......Sri is only mentioned in the

> title with ( Hanuman ) printed after the word Anjaaneya to make

sure

> the reader knows this is a Sri or Lord Hanuman Astotara

>

> So title of this Astotara honors both mother and son...........

and

> first mantra of this Astotara honors Lord Hanuman by way of his

> Mother with Aum Angeneyaya Namaha

>

> Third verse honors Lord Hanuman with Aum Hanumate

Namaha..........at

> end of Astotara is.......Iti Anjeneya Astotara Shatanama Valihi

> Samaptam.........again honoring Lord Hanuman by way of his Mother

as

> the son of Anjanaya

>

> In the Lord Hanuman Chalisa he is referred to in the beginning as

> Anjaniputra however this is only part of what Lord Hanuman

> represents......at the end of the Lord Hanuman Chalisa he is

> referred to as Pavanputra......son of Pavana that is another name

or

> aspect of Vayu the wind god....and again this is only part of what

> Lord Hanuman is

>

> Again by chanting Sri Anjanaayaya Namaha means that the son of

> Anjanaa is being honored by respecting the Mother....By useing a

> word or words for a Devi that are meant to be part of a larger

> Astotara or Chalisa then one is kind of leaveing out all the other

> aspects of the Deva.........Is best to refer to Lord Hanuman as

Lord

> Hanuman and then you have all powers of Lord Hanuman in one

> chanting.......... calling Lord Hanuman by a name that honors his

> relationship with his mother is great however if one stops there

it

> is only addressing one of his many aspects of existence.......by

> addressing Lord Hanuman as Lord Ajaneya one is only appealing to

the

> son by way of the Mother

>

> Another example would be the 108 to 1008 names of Lord

> Siva.........the true and original name of Lord Siva is Lord Siva

> and is addressed Aum Namah Shivaya......... although there are 108

> to 1008 other names for HIS different attributes when taken all

> together in context they fullfill the five syllabled Mantra Aum

> Namah Shivaya......... so is much easier to simply chant Aum Namah

> Shivaya and get all Blessings of all HIS different aspects at once

> instead of only concentrateing on one of HIS many aspects and

> restricting yourself

>

> Is same with Lord Hanuman and all the other names that apply to

his

> different attributes.......Lord Anganeya is only one of his

aspects

> as such one has to recite all the other names if one is going to

> complete the full power of Lord Hanuman

>

> The difficulty I have found with anyone only speaking about Lord

> Anjaneya is that it only refers to one aspect of the total Lord

> Hanuman enegy so why not just go to the source and chant Aum Sri

> Hanumate Namaha

>

> This is a matter of good debate as there is a traditional

philosophy

> that takes this even further to the Bij Mantras meaning to reduce

> the Mantra for the Deva to the most refined level of

existence...the

> Bija Mantra Gum for Lord Ganesha or Lord Ganapati is an

> example.......you can recite Gum Gum Gum Gum and you are

includeing

> all the is Lord Ganesha or one can recite the full Lord Ganesha

> Astotara with 1008 names of Lord Ganesha

>

> you will find this throughout Indian literature.....from Bij

Mantras

> to the many Gayatri Mantras and Astotaras........further example

> regarding the 108 to 1008 different names or mantras for any Deva

of

> an Astotara is specific to their relationship with the chanter and

> the universe of that particular Deva........chanting many mantras

> that showing relationships and influences over different aspects

of

> the know universe like brother to this one and son of this one and

> friend to this one............and with this power and that power

to

> appeal to........however the entire nature of the power of their

> real name is usually in the title of the Astotara and within the

> first few mantras of the Astotara

>

> There is lot of room for debate on this however from what I have

> studied I simply dont see Lord Hanuman as Lord Anjaneya because

> chanting to HIM as Lord Anjaneya is like leaveing out all his

other

> aspects

>

> Why not simply go to the source with his main Mantra instead and

> reduce the ceremony to the most subtle powerful form of the

Energies

> of Lord Hanuman

>

> hope this makes some sort of sense.........it is most fruitful to

> concentrate on one aspect of any Devas Energy be chanting one of

> their many aspects however why stop there and limit

oneself.....why

> not go to the source itself

>

> this is only ones understanding........there is always room for

> other understanding

>

> Wishing you and Family the Best

>

> DharmaDev Arya

>

>

>

> , narasimhaye

> <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > Deven, you're absolutely correct that Anjaneya is Son of Anjani.

> He

> > is also said to be Son of Vayu I think (correct me if I'm wrong).

> >

> > For those who don't happen to realize it, Lord Anjaneya is also

> Lord

> > Hanuman. Just like Ganesha is also Vinayaka and rudraksh is

also

> > rudraksham.

> >

> > Ommmmm

> >

> >

> >

> > , deven chopra

> > <chopradeven81@> wrote:

> > >

> > > DD Ji

> > > A little correction here:

> > >

> > > Hanuman is the Son of Anjani that is why he is called

Anjaneya.

> > > There is also a mantra with this name which I am not writing

> > here.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps.

> > >

> > > Anjani putra Hanuman ki Jai.

> > >

> > > Deven

> > >

> > > rudracenter <no_reply> wrote:

> > > Dear Nikhil Ji

> > >

> > > Namaskar and thank you for your message.........there seems to

> > some

> > > mix up.....there is no Lord Anjaneya.........Anjaneya is the

> name

> > of

> > > Lord Hanumans Mother...........11 Mukhi is associated with

Lord

> > > Hanuman as the 11th Rudra and takes the form of the Light Mass

> of

> > > Lord Rudra.........for newly married couples or for Families

in

> > > General the Puranas suggest wearing the Gauri Shankar for

peace

> in

> > > the Family

> > >

> > > If you read the values and merits of 14 Mukhi on our Rudra

> Center

> > > website it will help validate that 14 Mukhi is for future

sight

> > and

> > > as such the answer to your question would be yes......it is

for

> > > looking inwards and forward in time

> > >

> > > hope this helps

> > >

> > > Rudra Center America

> > >

> > > DharmaDev Arya

> > >

> > > , Nikhil V

> > > <nikhil_v23@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I have a few queries on 11 and 14 mukhis

> > > >

> > > > 1)I see that 11 mukhi is mainly said to be associated

> > > > with Lord Anjaneya. In this context do you think it

> > > > would be advisable for newly married couples to wear

> > > > it. (even if they are not wearing the beads during the

> > > > act)

> > > >

> > > > 2)Does 14 mukhi has any documented efects like

> > > > detachment/looking inwards etc.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Nikhil

> > >

> >

>