Anjaneya & Hanuman [same]

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Dear Friends

 

This is a good philosophical discussion and seems we are all basicly

right in this......... I apologize to the group for not thinking the

original question through and was wrong in saying that I had never

heard of wording of Lord Anjaneya

 

However there is a most certain distinction that is mentioned by all

of us and at the same time not spoken of

specifically............Anjanaa is the mother of Lord Hanuman and

Vayu is the wind that is the Father of Lord Hanuman

 

When referring to Lord Hanuman in the Lord Anjaneya ( Hanuman )

Astotara he is called by one of his many aspects as Aum Angeneyaya

Namaha in the first Mantra............however the Title of the

Astotara is written as Sri Angeneya ( Hanuman ) Astotara....with the

word Hanuman in parenthesis showing the true meaning of the Astotara

that is for Lord Hanuman

 

There is no word Sri or Lord in front of the word Anjaneyaya in the

first verse of this Astotara.......Sri is only mentioned in the

title with ( Hanuman ) printed after the word Anjaaneya to make sure

the reader knows this is a Sri or Lord Hanuman Astotara

 

So title of this Astotara honors both mother and son........... and

first mantra of this Astotara honors Lord Hanuman by way of his

Mother with Aum Angeneyaya Namaha

 

Third verse honors Lord Hanuman with Aum Hanumate Namaha..........at

end of Astotara is.......Iti Anjeneya Astotara Shatanama Valihi

Samaptam.........again honoring Lord Hanuman by way of his Mother as

the son of Anjanaya

 

In the Lord Hanuman Chalisa he is referred to in the beginning as

Anjaniputra however this is only part of what Lord Hanuman

represents......at the end of the Lord Hanuman Chalisa he is

referred to as Pavanputra......son of Pavana that is another name or

aspect of Vayu the wind god....and again this is only part of what

Lord Hanuman is

 

Again by chanting Sri Anjanaayaya Namaha means that the son of

Anjanaa is being honored by respecting the Mother....By useing a

word or words for a Devi that are meant to be part of a larger

Astotara or Chalisa then one is kind of leaveing out all the other

aspects of the Deva.........Is best to refer to Lord Hanuman as Lord

Hanuman and then you have all powers of Lord Hanuman in one

chanting.......... calling Lord Hanuman by a name that honors his

relationship with his mother is great however if one stops there it

is only addressing one of his many aspects of existence.......by

addressing Lord Hanuman as Lord Ajaneya one is only appealing to the

son by way of the Mother

 

Another example would be the 108 to 1008 names of Lord

Siva.........the true and original name of Lord Siva is Lord Siva

and is addressed Aum Namah Shivaya......... although there are 108

to 1008 other names for HIS different attributes when taken all

together in context they fullfill the five syllabled Mantra Aum

Namah Shivaya......... so is much easier to simply chant Aum Namah

Shivaya and get all Blessings of all HIS different aspects at once

instead of only concentrateing on one of HIS many aspects and

restricting yourself

 

Is same with Lord Hanuman and all the other names that apply to his

different attributes.......Lord Anganeya is only one of his aspects

as such one has to recite all the other names if one is going to

complete the full power of Lord Hanuman

 

The difficulty I have found with anyone only speaking about Lord

Anjaneya is that it only refers to one aspect of the total Lord

Hanuman enegy so why not just go to the source and chant Aum Sri

Hanumate Namaha

 

This is a matter of good debate as there is a traditional philosophy

that takes this even further to the Bij Mantras meaning to reduce

the Mantra for the Deva to the most refined level of existence...the

Bija Mantra Gum for Lord Ganesha or Lord Ganapati is an

example.......you can recite Gum Gum Gum Gum and you are includeing

all the is Lord Ganesha or one can recite the full Lord Ganesha

Astotara with 1008 names of Lord Ganesha

 

you will find this throughout Indian literature.....from Bij Mantras

to the many Gayatri Mantras and Astotaras........further example

regarding the 108 to 1008 different names or mantras for any Deva of

an Astotara is specific to their relationship with the chanter and

the universe of that particular Deva........chanting many mantras

that showing relationships and influences over different aspects of

the know universe like brother to this one and son of this one and

friend to this one............and with this power and that power to

appeal to........however the entire nature of the power of their

real name is usually in the title of the Astotara and within the

first few mantras of the Astotara

 

There is lot of room for debate on this however from what I have

studied I simply dont see Lord Hanuman as Lord Anjaneya because

chanting to HIM as Lord Anjaneya is like leaveing out all his other

aspects

 

Why not simply go to the source with his main Mantra instead and

reduce the ceremony to the most subtle powerful form of the Energies

of Lord Hanuman

 

hope this makes some sort of sense.........it is most fruitful to

concentrate on one aspect of any Devas Energy be chanting one of

their many aspects however why stop there and limit oneself.....why

not go to the source itself

 

this is only ones understanding........there is always room for

other understanding

 

Wishing you and Family the Best

 

DharmaDev Arya

 

 

 

, narasimhaye

<no_reply wrote:

>

> Deven, you're absolutely correct that Anjaneya is Son of Anjani.

He

> is also said to be Son of Vayu I think (correct me if I'm wrong).

>

> For those who don't happen to realize it, Lord Anjaneya is also

Lord

> Hanuman. Just like Ganesha is also Vinayaka and rudraksh is also

> rudraksham.

>

> Ommmmm

>

>

>

> , deven chopra

> <chopradeven81@> wrote:

> >

> > DD Ji

> > A little correction here:

> >

> > Hanuman is the Son of Anjani that is why he is called Anjaneya.

> > There is also a mantra with this name which I am not writing

> here.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > Anjani putra Hanuman ki Jai.

> >

> > Deven

> >

> > rudracenter <no_reply> wrote:

> > Dear Nikhil Ji

> >

> > Namaskar and thank you for your message.........there seems to

> some

> > mix up.....there is no Lord Anjaneya.........Anjaneya is the

name

> of

> > Lord Hanumans Mother...........11 Mukhi is associated with Lord

> > Hanuman as the 11th Rudra and takes the form of the Light Mass

of

> > Lord Rudra.........for newly married couples or for Families in

> > General the Puranas suggest wearing the Gauri Shankar for peace

in

> > the Family

> >

> > If you read the values and merits of 14 Mukhi on our Rudra

Center

> > website it will help validate that 14 Mukhi is for future sight

> and

> > as such the answer to your question would be yes......it is for

> > looking inwards and forward in time

> >

> > hope this helps

> >

> > Rudra Center America

> >

> > DharmaDev Arya

> >

> > , Nikhil V

> > <nikhil_v23@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I have a few queries on 11 and 14 mukhis

> > >

> > > 1)I see that 11 mukhi is mainly said to be associated

> > > with Lord Anjaneya. In this context do you think it

> > > would be advisable for newly married couples to wear

> > > it. (even if they are not wearing the beads during the

> > > act)

> > >

> > > 2)Does 14 mukhi has any documented efects like

> > > detachment/looking inwards etc.

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Nikhil

> >

>