Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 SABHI HINDU JYOTISHI SHARAM KARO EK MUSLIM KE TALVE CHAT KAR KHUSH HO RAHE HO . AGAR KISI HINDU MEIN DUM HAI TO ISS GROUP KO MITTI KAR D0 OR NAYA BADA HINDU JYOTISH GROUP BANAO HINDU VEER SENA -- In , "Tanvir Chowdhury" <tanweera wrote: > > Dear all : > > As there are a lot of discussions, opinions etc. about this recent > ban with most of the people going against the ban. I want to know > what the majority says. Please voice your opinion freely. I am a > believer of democracy, most of the times I must add. (But I know and > admit that sometimes autocracy is needed, too.) Anyway. > > I personally feel that Bhaskar Ji's comment was irresponsible and > beyond general norms of courtesy. And if I were there I would have > at least put him on moderation or perhaps I would ask him to > apologize and if he did not then perhaps ban him. The only thing > that supports him is his great contributions, there is no doubt > about him. And we all are grateful to him for that. > > However we must also rememeber, as I always say, doing even hundred > good deads do not permit one to do one evil. I may feed a hungry > poor person to the limit of his stomach but does it REALLY entitle > me to beat him, or to insult him, for the cost of feeding? > > If we are to respect, and be greatful to Bhaskar Ji for his > contributions, then we must same time also voice against the biased > comments that he has made. ONLY THAT IS JUSTICE. I personally was > very frustrated by his biased comments and we cannot expect this > from a matured, wise, kind person who does good to needy people. > Esp. on this international board where people from all over the > world gather. > > I was informed by Ashutosh Ji that even though Bhaskar Ji was argued > with about his mean (Yes, I would say so.) comments he continued to > stick to it and always supported his earlier statement. NOTHING can > be more frustrating than this, when someone refuses to accept his > mistake. To err is human being and to accept mistake is the > greatness. > > Even though he was banned by Ashutosh Ji without a warning or > precaution BUT THEN Ashutosh Ji is correct about his statement that > as Bhaskar Ji kept sticking to his comments, what is the point of > giving him another warning. He already refuses to admit his mistake. > Right? > > Still, people have different defition of justice and different > styles of judgement, and that is why this poll is for, to know what > you think. Because each of the members of JR is a part of it, and > they all are equally important. > > Thanks for being a part of JR family. > > Regards > Tanvir. > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Dear all, This person 'hinduveersena' joined this group today only to send this message and then immediately d from the group. There is no need to say who this person is. His mail came from mumbai using a vsnl isp. IP address210.211.172.180 Hostname210.211.172.180.bb-static.vsnl.net.in ISP Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd - India. Videsh Sanchar Bhawan, M.G. Road Fort, Bombay 400001 CountryIndia Regards, Ashutosh - hinduveersena Sunday, 17 September, 2006 18:28 SHARAM KARO SABHI HINDU JYOTISHI SHARAM KARO EK MUSLIM KE TALVE CHAT KAR KHUSH HO RAHE HO . AGAR KISI HINDU MEIN DUM HAI TO ISS GROUP KO MITTI KAR D0 OR NAYA BADA HINDU JYOTISH GROUP BANAO HINDU VEER SENA -- In , "Tanvir Chowdhury" <tanweera wrote: > > Dear all : > > As there are a lot of discussions, opinions etc. about this recent > ban with most of the people going against the ban. I want to know > what the majority says. Please voice your opinion freely. I am a > believer of democracy, most of the times I must add. (But I know and > admit that sometimes autocracy is needed, too.) Anyway. > > I personally feel that Bhaskar Ji's comment was irresponsible and > beyond general norms of courtesy. And if I were there I would have > at least put him on moderation or perhaps I would ask him to > apologize and if he did not then perhaps ban him. The only thing > that supports him is his great contributions, there is no doubt > about him. And we all are grateful to him for that. > > However we must also rememeber, as I always say, doing even hundred > good deads do not permit one to do one evil. I may feed a hungry > poor person to the limit of his stomach but does it REALLY entitle > me to beat him, or to insult him, for the cost of feeding? > > If we are to respect, and be greatful to Bhaskar Ji for his > contributions, then we must same time also voice against the biased > comments that he has made. ONLY THAT IS JUSTICE. I personally was > very frustrated by his biased comments and we cannot expect this > from a matured, wise, kind person who does good to needy people. > Esp. on this international board where people from all over the > world gather. > > I was informed by Ashutosh Ji that even though Bhaskar Ji was argued > with about his mean (Yes, I would say so.) comments he continued to > stick to it and always supported his earlier statement. NOTHING can > be more frustrating than this, when someone refuses to accept his > mistake. To err is human being and to accept mistake is the > greatness. > > Even though he was banned by Ashutosh Ji without a warning or > precaution BUT THEN Ashutosh Ji is correct about his statement that > as Bhaskar Ji kept sticking to his comments, what is the point of > giving him another warning. He already refuses to admit his mistake. > Right? > > Still, people have different defition of justice and different > styles of judgement, and that is why this poll is for, to know what > you think. Because each of the members of JR is a part of it, and > they all are equally important. > > Thanks for being a part of JR family. > > Regards > Tanvir. > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 dear Hinduveersena, it is really unfortunate that fanatics like ur group have sprouted of mere hatred and intolerance. It is high time u dont advise the members of this group. this is a group which doesnt promote hatred, this is a group which promotes enlightenment thro sharing of knowledge which is considered divine. so stop ur nonsense mail. sorry for my harsh mail. hope u reform and show more tolerance, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Dear Members, After reading the following mail, I immediately got in touch with Bhaskar and asked him whether he had sent the nasty mail in question. He very emphatically denied it. After an hour or so, I received a mail to post it on his behalf. Members, please, I want to request one and all, let us try to salvage the situation. There may be several bad elements who want to cash on this episode. Let us not try to blame each other without any evidence. The good thing would be to get over it and move on. Bhaskar has already been banned, and he himslef has expressed no desire to come back to the JR fold, so why broach his name, directly or indirectly. Let us move on and get back to astrology. Ashutosh, and Tanvir Bhai, I have a small suggestion here: For some time, in order to avoid any nasty mail come on the list, why not moderate every mail. I am not suggesting to moderate the mails permanently, but for a very brief period. Thanks for time and patience. "Shri Manoj Bhai, Please do this much favour, and post this message on the Forum on my behalf. Dear Members, If I have been pointed for sending some dirty message, then please note that this is not my handiwork in any manner, neither in direct or indirect, nor can such a thought come in my mind, to even think such a way. If I have to fightI I will fight on the face and not in this way. I can only swear on my old parents and children, no other way to prove. This seems as frustration coming out of the Moderator, who has not been able to garner any type of mental or physical support, and now stooping to such methods, to hit back at me. I have also heard that he is into black magic, and a Catholic by birth, so we all have to fear from him, he can hit in other ways too. (I am not sure whether this is right or not) regards, Bhaskar. --- astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: > Dear all, > > This person 'hinduveersena' joined > this group today only to send this message and then > immediately d from the group. > > There is no need to say who this person is. > His mail came from mumbai using a vsnl isp. > > IP address210.211.172.180 > Hostname210.211.172.180.bb-static.vsnl.net.in ISP > Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd - India. > Videsh Sanchar Bhawan, M.G. Road > Fort, Bombay 400001 CountryIndia > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > > > - > hinduveersena > > Sunday, 17 September, 2006 18:28 > SHARAM KARO > > > > SABHI HINDU JYOTISHI SHARAM KARO EK MUSLIM KE > TALVE CHAT KAR KHUSH > HO RAHE HO . AGAR KISI HINDU MEIN DUM HAI TO ISS > GROUP KO MITTI KAR > D0 OR NAYA BADA HINDU JYOTISH GROUP BANAO > HINDU VEER SENA > > -- In , "Tanvir > Chowdhury" > <tanweera wrote: > > > > Dear all : > > > > As there are a lot of discussions, opinions etc. > about this recent > > ban with most of the people going against the > ban. I want to know > > what the majority says. Please voice your > opinion freely. I am a > > believer of democracy, most of the times I must > add. (But I know > and > > admit that sometimes autocracy is needed, too.) > Anyway. > > > > I personally feel that Bhaskar Ji's comment was > irresponsible and > > beyond general norms of courtesy. And if I were > there I would have > > at least put him on moderation or perhaps I > would ask him to > > apologize and if he did not then perhaps ban > him. The only thing > > that supports him is his great contributions, > there is no doubt > > about him. And we all are grateful to him for > that. > > > > However we must also rememeber, as I always say, > doing even > hundred > > good deads do not permit one to do one evil. I > may feed a hungry > > poor person to the limit of his stomach but does > it REALLY entitle > > me to beat him, or to insult him, for the cost > of feeding? > > > > If we are to respect, and be greatful to Bhaskar > Ji for his > > contributions, then we must same time also voice > against the > biased > > comments that he has made. ONLY THAT IS JUSTICE. > I personally was > > very frustrated by his biased comments and we > cannot expect this > > from a matured, wise, kind person who does good > to needy people. > > Esp. on this international board where people > from all over the > > world gather. > > > > I was informed by Ashutosh Ji that even though > Bhaskar Ji was > argued > > with about his mean (Yes, I would say so.) > comments he continued > to > > stick to it and always supported his earlier > statement. NOTHING > can > > be more frustrating than this, when someone > refuses to accept his > > mistake. To err is human being and to accept > mistake is the > > greatness. > > > > Even though he was banned by Ashutosh Ji without > a warning or > > precaution BUT THEN Ashutosh Ji is correct about > his statement > that > > as Bhaskar Ji kept sticking to his comments, > what is the point of > > giving him another warning. He already refuses > to admit his > mistake. > > Right? > > > > Still, people have different defition of justice > and different > > styles of judgement, and that is why this poll > is for, to know > what > > you think. Because each of the members of JR is > a part of it, and > > they all are equally important. > > > > Thanks for being a part of JR family. > > > > Regards > > Tanvir. > > > > > > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic > Astrology (Jyotish) > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful > problem solving > > remedies > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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