FW: TIME NOW TO PROVE OUR SELVES.

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Dear Members,

 

Bhaskar ji has asked me to forward his message to the forum - as his stand. Morality demanded me to post this, hence posting the message.

 

Perhaps, I am also going in sleep mode as far as JR forum is concerned. The way, forum is heading (may be people feel it is few thousands group) - but with little jyotish inputs and current environment - has brought lots of discomfort to me as well. I will prefer to resume, if at all - the forum can be really useful for jyotish students like me. Please do not link this to banning of Bhaskar ji, as I was the one - with whom, he had most confrontations. I have made this decision on my own consciousness.

 

Even - the poll - where linking ban issue to moderators continuance does not make sense to me. In democracy - with large forum size, handful of votes will set the patterns and justifications.

 

Please scroll down to read Bhaskar's message to Tanveer ji.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Kaun rota hai kisi aur ki khatir e dost, sabko apni hi kisi baat pe rona aaya.

 

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rajiventerprises (AT) hathway (DOT) com

Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:47:32 +0530

jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com

TIME NOW TO PROVE OUR SELVES.

 

Dear Prafulla bhai,

 

its time now to shed all fears and inhibitions or saving own skin .Its time now to

act proper listening to ones own conscience if one wants to.

If you can, then please get this message posted on my behalf on

the Forum.

 

your brother,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

Shri Tanvirji,

Namaste.

 

Enough of small mercies.

maaf kariye mujhe bhai.(Forgive me)

Sher ko khunte pe bakre ki tarah bandh kar khilayenge

pilayenge phir jab marji kaat denge ?

(Want to tie a lion to the roadside pole like a sheep ,

will allow him to eat for few days , and

when your mood will cut it and eat it ?)

Main bhediye ke neeche nahin kaam kar sakta.

( I cannot work under a Wolf as Moderator)

Main Tanveer Sahab ki ijjat karta hoon. Woh bhi

samjhe kaun aadmi kaise hai aur ijjat se bulayenge toh

hum bhi prem se jaroor pag pag par unko dua karte hua aayenge.

(I respect Tanvirji, and if he invites me respectfully

and graciously ,then every step of me walking back to

the Forum would contain blessing for him)

But he has to remove the wolf first, and go for a members poll,

if he is really believeing in democracy to choose the Moderator.

 

I can write a book on the Moderators misplaced,

astrological prowess (If any), and his

irresponsible statements on this Forum , and others too

about astrology,about general behaviours norms

of conversation with women natives etc. .assasinating the character

of women with his lack of astrological ,knowledge, but not here

for that. And even if I do that will You ban him . No?

Because he is pro Islamic. Why shouled we not be neutral to all.?

Dont we also say good and bad things both for even Hindu

as well as for Muslim ? Just check my posts ? Why should I be

asked for apology in the first case. I have mentioned good and

bad equally for one and all. No bias.

When You already know that majority of here are against my

banning and Mr.Ashutosh as moderator ,

as Youmentioned today in the first few lines of your message to

ythe members , then why this farce

of taking poll now, which should have been taken before

making him moderator. ? Mr.Tanvirji with due respects to you,

your kindness and supposed democracy, if we are here because

of you , even you are here because of our collective strength.

It is just that you have the power to strike us and we do not have

that power, not that I want to do that. You are a good man no

doubt about that, but assumingly only one side

and selected pieces of my posts have been presented to you.

For me good human being is all that matters and not religion,

I f you are a good astrologer than why dont You

check what Iam saying is true or not.

What has been presented to you is contextual.

 

Do you want lambs in your family of JR who will be

meek as per your demands , or well fed lions who

know how to roar ? I would have preferred the

latter if I was owner here.

 

 

Please let Tanvirji know that I am not here to have his pity. If he cannot

understand what is right and what is wrong, its a bad time for JR and the

owner. They have to apologise for their behaviour of banning me out.

and not me. I have not asked for apology from them is my

humane nature.

 

I will be happy to be in the jungle under a tree or in my cave, but not tied like a lamb

in this Forum. They want democracy in India, but for simple things start showing

dictatorship at the first instance available.,whenever power is given to them.

This man has also showed his

biasness in the cloak of doing justice. Terrorism in its refined state.

You dont allow a person to speak freely and ban him,for personal

frustrations ? Just as I am against bad Hindus, in the same way,

I am not against Islam or against Pakistan

or against true Muslims who are good

human beings. How to prove this to you ?

Cant you observe this yourself if you ask your conscience ?

we are not against a whole group but only singling out

indivuduals who are menace to society.anything

wrong in writing freely ?

I have not come to you for removing the ban.

I have not requested any single member to request

you to put me back here. Neither have I asked you both as owner and

Moderator to apologise,

for barring me unjustificably. If after all this

if you still invite me in a respectful and gracious manner

as one should, then its for me to decide

whether to come or not. You need not speculate

by numbers if I should be here. Ask your inner self.

whether its for you to permit me,or else my prerogative.

 

 

Sorry,

please leave me alone.

 

Bhaskar.