Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Tarun, What seasonings is to foods, that intuition is to astrology..... Gaurav , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Tarun ji, > > Though intuition has a role, jyotishi uses this as his supplementary tool (in addition to his sound technical knowledge). That is what Prashant ji was narrating. > > I strongly feel that Prashant ji's approach is more prudent and reliable - as seeing the chart from technical perspective and supplementing it with his initutive skills. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you paint in your mind a picture of bright and happy expectations, you put yourself into a condition conducive to your goal. > > ************************************************ > > > > > > occultwizard.tarun > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:35:28 +0530 > > > > Re: Astology works in a perfect triabngel 15/9 > > > > It is amazing that people predict correctly with wrong charts like today > > prashant did as he told me all the right things about the person whom i > > was > > thinking with wrong horoscope. > > > > most of astrologers are intuitive and they give predictions with wrong > > charts correctly. that's why this ayanamsa issue is so difficult to > > prove. > > any way those who are using TA they must be getting the events as soon > > the > > dasha changes. > > > > with best wishes > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > www.occultwizard.com > > > > On 9/15/06, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > >> > >> Dear readers, > >> > >> I have qutie often said to get good predections we neea a perfect > >> eqilateral triagle the querent, the astrologer [knowledgeble and as > >> clean as > >> possible] and God whente questions is in perfect haromy it works > >> splendidly > >> no aynamsa [or chart is also need at times.] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This is a chat with Tarun chopra > >> HERE HE HAS ALWAY tried to push his ayanamsa and that it can define > >> anyting which is just one event a whole day but when i said it needs a > >> environment and many events can be said form that period,date he came up > >> with 2 test this is 2nd session. one held 2 weeks back will post later. > >> > >> HERE HE IS TESTING ME BY GIVING DATA OF ONE AND HAVING THE PICTURE OF > >> ANYOTHER IN HIS MIND, the end result he got the answer for what is in > >> his > >> mind, we are miles apart still the triangle seems to work here, HE GOT > >> WHAT > >> HE WAS looking and trying to fool astrology or me seems to have bounced > >> back > >> on him. > >> > >> READ ON. > >> > >> > >> Tarun Chopra: It is not surprising that people use different ayananamsas > >> and still they predict correct > >> PK: i told u there r many factors in prediction anyansa is too smal part > >> Tarun Chopra: ya but each ayanamsa gives different chart > >> Tarun Chopra: and different dasha > >> PK: chart/s and dasas still the combinations that change with each must > >> still giveu results > >> PK: have u not seen response to my posts by many > >> Tarun Chopra: yes yesterday i have read your post about the chart we > >> discused > >> PK: ok > >> PK: i want to post the chat as it is wanted u rpermission > >> PK: is it ok > >> PK: as no name of the other person is there u and me max > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: it just to debate the pint that astro is wide and a day many events > >> take place > >> PK: and background also will be there which is pure astro > >> PK: i got this from may sources > >> PK: ii can tell u our family astro said to my father > >> PK: he will live near a Kartikeya temple > >> PK: and a water body > >> PK: even if there were none they came > >> PK: where ever we lived > >> PK: in chennai, Hyd, blr, chennai > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: so many houses > >> PK: near our house we had no temples at all > >> PK: now we have a kartikeya one > >> Tarun Chopra: i see > >> PK: and a amman-shakti > >> Tarun Chopra: may be some connection is there > >> PK: s there will be that is how i told u other day too > >> PK: this is mars aspecting Jupt > >> PK: and if jupt is 9th lord or aspecting 9th house or 9th lord by mars > >> Tarun Chopra: does people visit your place for consultancy work > >> PK: s > >> PK: i am in this for 26 yrs now > >> PK: and can tell u where people live by their chart > >> PK: so many times > >> Tarun Chopra: ya you have developed this > >> Tarun Chopra: can you tell about me without looking of my chart > >> Tarun Chopra: any thing about me without going through my chart > >> PK: with chart alone we can > >> Tarun Chopra: well try once what feeling you get > >> PK: on > >> Tarun Chopra: about me > >> Tarun Chopra: any feeling you get for me > >> Tarun Chopra: without going through my horoscope > >> PK: as i said many times I like the spirit of research by anyone > >> PK: but it must not be too far from tradition, i also mix a lot > >> PK: my guru does we need to use the situation differently not change the > >> rules > >> Tarun Chopra: ok let me give you one example that you tell by intuition > >> Tarun Chopra: i will give you one chart > >> Tarun Chopra: you can tell any thing about her > >> PK: s > >> Tarun Chopra: 24/09/1977, 15:07:00, DST/WT 0, Rajpura, , India, Time > >> Zone > >> 5.50, Lat. 30 N 29, Long. 76 E 36 > >> PK: and i can post this in group the discussion > >> Tarun Chopra: yes no problems > >> PK: ok > >> PK: which are u want to know of her? > >> Tarun Chopra: tell any thing about her which you can find easily > >> PK: ok > >> Tarun Chopra: may be height > >> Tarun Chopra: career > >> Tarun Chopra: this time you are taking much time > >> Tarun Chopra: last time you predicted instantly > >> PK: with 4 people > >> PK: kunal, prafulla, siddarth > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: and u > >> PK: so got delayed > >> PK: just entered the data > >> PK: girls father is an engineer > >> PK: or to do with power > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: if he is alive the sani over ravi he will be critical condition > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: he may have some health issues when she was 3-5 yrs old > >> Tarun Chopra: i don't know about father i know about the girl only > >> PK: she is good looking lean and nerves can be seen > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: veins also > >> PK: short stature, high forehead > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: like a temple > >> Tarun Chopra: good > >> Tarun Chopra: about her career > >> PK: in para medical or pharma > >> PK: lives now in the west of her birth place > >> PK: and close to a food processing unit or hospital for children > >> PK: esp closer in 2010-11 > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> Tarun Chopra: and tell me does has some master degree > >> Tarun Chopra: and is she married > >> PK: she will marry some one younger to her or less well of or less > >> qualified than her > >> PK: late marriage in 28-32 bracket > >> Tarun Chopra: you are right now > >> Tarun Chopra: let me tell you > >> Tarun Chopra: you have predicted all by intuition > >> Tarun Chopra: because the things which you have told about the girl is > >> the > >> girl which i was thinking in my mind > >> PK: tell me what all was right and ask others to add I wont give reason > >> s > >> for it ok > >> Tarun Chopra: i have given you a chart of a different girl > >> PK: now way no esp or telepathy > >> Tarun Chopra: and thought of a different girl > >> Tarun Chopra: now you told that the girl is having short height > >> Tarun Chopra: yes the person whom i am thinking off is having short > >> height > >> PK: well if this is not a genuine case I cant help astrology is not for > >> that kind > >> PK: of work I did a honest effort > >> Tarun Chopra: and the chart is having good height > >> PK: tell me what is right on this > >> Tarun Chopra: you have told that this girl will get marry to a younger > >> person in 28 > >> Tarun Chopra: yes the one which is in my mind has got married younger in > >> 28 > >> PK: ok > >> Tarun Chopra: and the chart which you have prepared is still unmarried > >> PK: now give me both data > >> PK: will let the group decide > >> PK: u cant do this > >> Tarun Chopra: i know people predict by intuition because astrologers > >> have > >> good intuition > >> PK: ask on the chart u want > >> PK: s u need intuition, not fully. > >> PK: else how can u handle twins > >> Tarun Chopra: you have told about a girl of this birth details Female, > >> 09/11/1975, 10:00:00, DST/WT 0, Chandigarh, , India, Time Zone 5.50, > >> Lat. > >> 30 N 44, Long. 76 E 55, > >> Tarun Chopra: yes this is what i am telling that astrologer predict > >> correct with wrong horoscopes correctly > >> Tarun Chopra: like you did right now > >> Tarun Chopra: as the chart was of a girl who is having height of five > >> point seven > >> Tarun Chopra: and you told the height is less > >> PK: why cant 2 people have similar not same fate > >> PK: other than height other areas work, marriage his status etc > >> PK: remember as u said she is unworried wait for what i said 28- 32 > >> Tarun Chopra: and she is working in pharmaceutical company > >> PK: ok > >> PK: then what just height is issue? > >> Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also as you have > >> predicted > >> of person whom chart you were not looking > >> PK: marriage wait and c > >> PK: will be like i said > >> PK: some Younger or less qualified > >> Tarun Chopra: you even described the face properly as i was thinking of > >> that girl only and you caught the vibes correctly > >> Tarun Chopra: so there is no need of astrology for you you can predict > >> without charts also i also do > >> PK: ok how is this pharma girl other face > >> PK: how do buth look if u have pics give there date and send it > >> Tarun Chopra: > >> Tarun Chopra: hello i am puting this chat on the > >> Tarun Chopra: should i do > >> PK: u can no prob > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: send me pics o fboth if u have > >> PK: r both same lagna > >> PK: or triens of it > >> Tarun Chopra: you must be shocked today to see this > >> Tarun Chopra: the lagna are not same as one is sagi and other is > >> capricorn > >> Tarun Chopra: i calculated the chart with ramman > >> Tarun Chopra: ok i will send the chat or you can do it > >> Tarun Chopra: loging off now bye > >> PK: whcih 1 is 5ftt 7 > >> PK: sag must be not makara > >> Tarun Chopra: no the makra one > >> Tarun Chopra: she is tall and not slim > >> PK: u have pics of both > >> PK: and moon sign of both > >> Tarun Chopra: moon sign you can see by chart > >> Tarun Chopra: as one is capricorn > >> Tarun Chopra: and other is aquarious > >> PK: ok > >> PK: i am yet 2 c the 2nd one > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: so some makara is still there in 2nd > >> Tarun Chopra: ya moon sign > >> PK: that is the always there had u given them straight away > >> PK: and asked i cud have given a better > >> PK: pic of them > >> PK: why one in min one in screen > >> PK: u sit in any BVB OR ICAS session will know this is astro not > >> intution > >> PK: i am avg religions > >> PK: v basci > >> PK: only religious can havbe intution > >> Tarun Chopra: you know you have good intution you can start predictions > >> without looking at charts this will give you great freedom in > >> predictions > >> PK: say Ganesh > >> PK: arjun > >> PK: that will be halucination > >> PK: not intution > >> Tarun Chopra: you predicted the height of the girl which i was thinking > >> right > >> PK: i have 2 makara one rasi other lagna so I cant say i was off mark > >> PK: and Mak lagna will marry as i said > >> Tarun Chopra: not the person height whom chart you were looking > >> PK: wait and c > >> PK: whenever she marries > >> Tarun Chopra: the other one which you told correctly > >> Tarun Chopra: i told her about you > >> Tarun Chopra: as she is married to an person who is younger than her > >> PK: ok then where am i wrong > >> PK: only Ht > >> PK: how abt complexion > >> Tarun Chopra: hight and career, about complexion, she lives near > >> hospital > >> Tarun Chopra: you have told all correct but not of the chart which i > >> gave > >> PK: career u said pharma? > >> Tarun Chopra: you have told all things correct of the person which i was > >> thinking off > >> PK: ok what is this one doing > >> Tarun Chopra: the one i have given you data is not working > >> Tarun Chopra: still trying hard for her career > >> PK: but qualified as > >> Tarun Chopra: the one which you told who is working in a pharma company > >> right now is a cost accountant > >> PK: ok > >> Tarun Chopra: and the other girl has completed her PHD in psychology > >> PK: well ask er to apply for a pharma company or hospital she will get > >> her > >> JOB > >> PK: HER INCOME is thru such a place > >> Tarun Chopra: ok > >> PK: whether she is paramedical or not > >> PK: then tell me > >> Tarun Chopra: the one which birth details i have given you first > >> PK: s job less1 > >> Tarun Chopra: well i think it is not required because the issues were > >> different here that if you are intuitive or not and yes you are highly > >> intuitive and you have given a reading of a person whose chart was not > >> there > >> in front of you > >> PK: but she will get a job in such places > >> Tarun Chopra: may be but you have said she is working in pharma and the > >> one i was thinking is working in pharma company > >> Tarun Chopra: she is living near hospital > >> PK: ok > >> Tarun Chopra: lives west of her place > >> PK: i am yet to c the other one now will c > >> PK: and reading the mails in JR. > >> PK: some 25 mails already > >> PK: chatting with 5, brother too > >> Tarun Chopra: no you should acknowledge that you are good intuitive > >> person > >> and you can predict without charts also as intuition does not require > >> any > >> medium or charts > >> PK: u read the equilateral triangle i say always > >> PK: the client, astrologer and god=intuition > >> PK: if they align u get answers not to otherwise > >> PK: if u put the one in ur mind here may be u still got that answers > >> PK: not my fault > >> PK: i did not predict about some not in ur mind or chart did i? > >> Tarun Chopra: any way sir do try with people to predict without charts > >> you > >> will see your sucess rate will increase and you will get shocked to see > >> how > >> good intuition is when we > >> PK: no way i repeat u need a serious client, astro and god all 3 in same > >> angle > >> PK: only then it flows > >> Tarun Chopra: yes and you have all > >> PK: if i had predicted totally opposite than u can say > >> Tarun Chopra: good clients who need yur help > >> Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also for them and you > >> will > >> able to pinpoint dates like i do without looking at charts > >> PK: if I have no chart data i use prasna > >> PK: no guess work anytime > >> PK: and this u need siddhi [for intuition] > >> PK: for it u need religions practice > >> PK: i am a lazy one > >> Tarun Chopra: yes i also use parshana charts > >> Tarun Chopra: no you are doing praynama and by your nature you are > >> intuitive > >> PK: that is all > >> PK: in fact i saw a prasna and then saw ur chart > >> Tarun Chopra: no need of religious activates > >> PK: to make sure what i see there and chart will be same > >> Tarun Chopra: so you think you are not intuitive > >> PK: in prasna nd the chart u gave both have 8th afflicted > >> PK: i felt max god has still show me the clues on ur mind than the chart > >> u > >> tested me with > >> PK: but still she will be working in such places when she gets it tell > >> me > >> Tarun Chopra: bye > >> > >> > >> Prashantkumar G B > >> > >> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group > >> but > >> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > >> Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > >> > >> Personal ID > >> astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com> > >> 09840051861 > >> > >> > >> > >> Get your email and more, right on the new .com > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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