Astology works in a perfect triabngel 15/9

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Dear readers,

I have qutie often said to get good predections we neea a perfect eqilateral triagle the querent, the astrologer [knowledgeble and as clean as possible] and God whente questions is in perfect haromy it works splendidly no aynamsa [or chart is also need at times.]

This is a chat with Tarun chopra

HERE HE HAS ALWAY tried to push his ayanamsa and that it can define anyting which is just one event a whole day but when i said it needs a environment and many events can be said form that period,date he came up with 2 test this is 2nd session. one held 2 weeks back will post later.

HERE HE IS TESTING ME BY GIVING DATA OF ONE AND HAVING THE PICTURE OF ANYOTHER IN HIS MIND, the end result he got the answer for what is in his mind, we are miles apart still the triangle seems to work here, HE GOT WHAT HE WAS looking and trying to fool astrology or me seems to have bounced back on him.

READ ON.

Tarun Chopra: It is not surprising that people use different ayananamsas and still they predict correct

PK: i told u there r many factors in prediction anyansa is too smal part

Tarun Chopra: ya but each ayanamsa gives different chart

Tarun Chopra: and different dasha

PK: chart/s and dasas still the combinations that change with each must still giveu results

PK: have u not seen response to my posts by many

Tarun Chopra: yes yesterday i have read your post about the chart we discused

PK: ok

PK: i want to post the chat as it is wanted u rpermission

PK: is it ok

PK: as no name of the other person is there u and me max

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: it just to debate the pint that astro is wide and a day many events take place

PK: and background also will be there which is pure astro

PK: i got this from may sources

PK: ii can tell u our family astro said to my father

PK: he will live near a Kartikeya temple

PK: and a water body

PK: even if there were none they came

PK: where ever we lived

PK: in chennai, Hyd, blr, chennai

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: so many houses

PK: near our house we had no temples at all

PK: now we have a kartikeya one

Tarun Chopra: i see

PK: and a amman-shakti

Tarun Chopra: may be some connection is there

PK: s there will be that is how i told u other day too

PK: this is mars aspecting Jupt

PK: and if jupt is 9th lord or aspecting 9th house or 9th lord by mars

Tarun Chopra: does people visit your place for consultancy work

PK: s

PK: i am in this for 26 yrs now

PK: and can tell u where people live by their chart

PK: so many times

Tarun Chopra: ya you have developed this

Tarun Chopra: can you tell about me without looking of my chart

Tarun Chopra: any thing about me without going through my chart

PK: with chart alone we can

Tarun Chopra: well try once what feeling you get

PK: on

Tarun Chopra: about me

Tarun Chopra: any feeling you get for me

Tarun Chopra: without going through my horoscope

PK: as i said many times I like the spirit of research by anyone

PK: but it must not be too far from tradition, i also mix a lot

PK: my guru does we need to use the situation differently not change the rules

Tarun Chopra: ok let me give you one example that you tell by intuition

Tarun Chopra: i will give you one chart

Tarun Chopra: you can tell any thing about her

PK: s

Tarun Chopra: 24/09/1977, 15:07:00, DST/WT 0, Rajpura, , India, Time Zone 5.50, Lat. 30 N 29, Long. 76 E 36

PK: and i can post this in group the discussion

Tarun Chopra: yes no problems

PK: ok

PK: which are u want to know of her?

Tarun Chopra: tell any thing about her which you can find easily

PK: ok

Tarun Chopra: may be height

Tarun Chopra: career

Tarun Chopra: this time you are taking much time

Tarun Chopra: last time you predicted instantly

PK: with 4 people

PK: kunal, prafulla, siddarth

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: and u

PK: so got delayed

PK: just entered the data

PK: girls father is an engineer

PK: or to do with power

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: if he is alive the sani over ravi he will be critical condition

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: he may have some health issues when she was 3-5 yrs old

Tarun Chopra: i don’t know about father i know about the girl only

PK: she is good looking lean and nerves can be seen

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: veins also

PK: short stature, high forehead

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: like a temple

Tarun Chopra: good

Tarun Chopra: about her career

PK: in para medical or pharma

PK: lives now in the west of her birth place

PK: and close to a food processing unit or hospital for children

PK: esp closer in 2010-11

Tarun Chopra: ok

Tarun Chopra: and tell me does has some master degree

Tarun Chopra: and is she married

PK: she will marry some one younger to her or less well of or less qualified than her

PK: late marriage in 28-32 bracket

Tarun Chopra: you are right now

Tarun Chopra: let me tell you

Tarun Chopra: you have predicted all by intuition

Tarun Chopra: because the things which you have told about the girl is the girl which i was thinking in my mind

PK: tell me what all was right and ask others to add I wont give reason s for it ok

Tarun Chopra: i have given you a chart of a different girl

PK: now way no esp or telepathy

Tarun Chopra: and thought of a different girl

Tarun Chopra: now you told that the girl is having short height

Tarun Chopra: yes the person whom i am thinking off is having short height

PK: well if this is not a genuine case I cant help astrology is not for that kind

PK: of work I did a honest effort

Tarun Chopra: and the chart is having good height

PK: tell me what is right on this

Tarun Chopra: you have told that this girl will get marry to a younger person in 28

Tarun Chopra: yes the one which is in my mind has got married younger in 28

PK: ok

Tarun Chopra: and the chart which you have prepared is still unmarried

PK: now give me both data

PK: will let the group decide

PK: u cant do this

Tarun Chopra: i know people predict by intuition because astrologers have good intuition

PK: ask on the chart u want

PK: s u need intuition, not fully.

PK: else how can u handle twins

Tarun Chopra: you have told about a girl of this birth details Female, 09/11/1975, 10:00:00, DST/WT 0, Chandigarh, , India, Time Zone 5.50, Lat. 30 N 44, Long. 76 E 55,

Tarun Chopra: yes this is what i am telling that astrologer predict correct with wrong horoscopes correctly

Tarun Chopra: like you did right now

Tarun Chopra: as the chart was of a girl who is having height of five point seven

Tarun Chopra: and you told the height is less

PK: why cant 2 people have similar not same fate

PK: other than height other areas work, marriage his status etc

PK: remember as u said she is unworried wait for what i said 28-32

Tarun Chopra: and she is working in pharmaceutical company

PK: ok

PK: then what just height is issue?

Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also as you have predicted of person whom chart you were not looking

PK: marriage wait and c

PK: will be like i said

PK: some Younger or less qualified

Tarun Chopra: you even described the face properly as i was thinking of that girl only and you caught the vibes correctly

Tarun Chopra: so there is no need of astrology for you you can predict without charts also i also do

PK: ok how is this pharma girl other face

PK: how do buth look if u have pics give there date and send it

Tarun Chopra:

Tarun Chopra: hello i am puting this chat on the

Tarun Chopra: should i do

PK: u can no prob

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: send me pics o fboth if u have

PK: r both same lagna

PK: or triens of it

Tarun Chopra: you must be shocked today to see this

Tarun Chopra: the lagna are not same as one is sagi and other is capricorn

Tarun Chopra: i calculated the chart with ramman

Tarun Chopra: ok i will send the chat or you can do it

Tarun Chopra: loging off now bye

PK: whcih 1 is 5ftt 7

PK: sag must be not makara

Tarun Chopra: no the makra one

Tarun Chopra: she is tall and not slim

PK: u have pics of both

PK: and moon sign of both

Tarun Chopra: moon sign you can see by chart

Tarun Chopra: as one is capricorn

Tarun Chopra: and other is aquarious

PK: ok

PK: i am yet 2 c the 2nd one

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: so some makara is still there in 2nd

Tarun Chopra: ya moon sign

PK: that is the always there had u given them straight away

PK: and asked i cud have given a better

PK: pic of them

PK: why one in min one in screen

PK: u sit in any BVB OR ICAS session will know this is astro not intution

PK: i am avg religions

PK: v basci

PK: only religious can havbe intution

Tarun Chopra: you know you have good intution you can start predictions without looking at charts this will give you great freedom in predictions

PK: say Ganesh

PK: arjun

PK: that will be halucination

PK: not intution

Tarun Chopra: you predicted the height of the girl which i was thinking right

PK: i have 2 makara one rasi other lagna so I cant say i was off mark

PK: and Mak lagna will marry as i said

Tarun Chopra: not the person height whom chart you were looking

PK: wait and c

PK: whenever she marries

Tarun Chopra: the other one which you told correctly

Tarun Chopra: i told her about you

Tarun Chopra: as she is married to an person who is younger than her

PK: ok then where am i wrong

PK: only Ht

PK: how abt complexion

Tarun Chopra: hight and career, about complexion, she lives near hospital

Tarun Chopra: you have told all correct but not of the chart which i gave

PK: career u said pharma?

Tarun Chopra: you have told all things correct of the person which i was thinking off

PK: ok what is this one doing

Tarun Chopra: the one i have given you data is not working

Tarun Chopra: still trying hard for her career

PK: but qualified as

Tarun Chopra: the one which you told who is working in a pharma company right now is a cost accountant

PK: ok

Tarun Chopra: and the other girl has completed her PHD in psychology

PK: well ask er to apply for a pharma company or hospital she will get her JOB

PK: HER INCOME is thru such a place

Tarun Chopra: ok

PK: whether she is paramedical or not

PK: then tell me

Tarun Chopra: the one which birth details i have given you first

PK: s job less1

Tarun Chopra: well i think it is not required because the issues were different here that if you are intuitive or not and yes you are highly intuitive and you have given a reading of a person whose chart was not there in front of you

PK: but she will get a job in such places

Tarun Chopra: may be but you have said she is working in pharma and the one i was thinking is working in pharma company

Tarun Chopra: she is living near hospital

PK: ok

Tarun Chopra: lives west of her place

PK: i am yet to c the other one now will c

PK: and reading the mails in JR.

PK: some 25 mails already

PK: chatting with 5, brother too

Tarun Chopra: no you should acknowledge that you are good intuitive person and you can predict without charts also as intuition does not require any medium or charts

PK: u read the equilateral triangle i say always

PK: the client, astrologer and god=intuition

PK: if they align u get answers not to otherwise

PK: if u put the one in ur mind here may be u still got that answers

PK: not my fault

PK: i did not predict about some not in ur mind or chart did i?

Tarun Chopra: any way sir do try with people to predict without charts you will see your sucess rate will increase and you will get shocked to see how good intuition is when we

PK: no way i repeat u need a serious client, astro and god all 3 in same angle

PK: only then it flows

Tarun Chopra: yes and you have all

PK: if i had predicted totally opposite than u can say

Tarun Chopra: good clients who need yur help

Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also for them and you will able to pinpoint dates like i do without looking at charts

PK: if I have no chart data i use prasna

PK: no guess work anytime

PK: and this u need siddhi [for intuition]

PK: for it u need religions practice

PK: i am a lazy one

Tarun Chopra: yes i also use parshana charts

Tarun Chopra: no you are doing praynama and by your nature you are intuitive

PK: that is all

PK: in fact i saw a prasna and then saw ur chart

Tarun Chopra: no need of religious activates

PK: to make sure what i see there and chart will be same

Tarun Chopra: so you think you are not intuitive

PK: in prasna nd the chart u gave both have 8th afflicted

PK: i felt max god has still show me the clues on ur mind than the chart u tested me with

PK: but still she will be working in such places when she gets it tell me

Tarun Chopra: bye

 

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It is amazing that people predict correctly with wrong charts like today

prashant did as he told me all the right things about the person whom i was

thinking with wrong horoscope.

 

most of astrologers are intuitive and they give predictions with wrong

charts correctly. that's why this ayanamsa issue is so difficult to prove.

any way those who are using TA they must be getting the events as soon the

dasha changes.

 

with best wishes

 

Tarun Chopra

 

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On 9/15/06, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>

> Dear readers,

>

> I have qutie often said to get good predections we neea a perfect

> eqilateral triagle the querent, the astrologer [knowledgeble and as clean as

> possible] and God whente questions is in perfect haromy it works splendidly

> no aynamsa [or chart is also need at times.]

>

>

>

>

> This is a chat with Tarun chopra

> HERE HE HAS ALWAY tried to push his ayanamsa and that it can define

> anyting which is just one event a whole day but when i said it needs a

> environment and many events can be said form that period,date he came up

> with 2 test this is 2nd session. one held 2 weeks back will post later.

>

> HERE HE IS TESTING ME BY GIVING DATA OF ONE AND HAVING THE PICTURE OF

> ANYOTHER IN HIS MIND, the end result he got the answer for what is in his

> mind, we are miles apart still the triangle seems to work here, HE GOT WHAT

> HE WAS looking and trying to fool astrology or me seems to have bounced back

> on him.

>

> READ ON.

>

>

> Tarun Chopra: It is not surprising that people use different ayananamsas

> and still they predict correct

> PK: i told u there r many factors in prediction anyansa is too smal part

> Tarun Chopra: ya but each ayanamsa gives different chart

> Tarun Chopra: and different dasha

> PK: chart/s and dasas still the combinations that change with each must

> still giveu results

> PK: have u not seen response to my posts by many

> Tarun Chopra: yes yesterday i have read your post about the chart we

> discused

> PK: ok

> PK: i want to post the chat as it is wanted u rpermission

> PK: is it ok

> PK: as no name of the other person is there u and me max

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: it just to debate the pint that astro is wide and a day many events

> take place

> PK: and background also will be there which is pure astro

> PK: i got this from may sources

> PK: ii can tell u our family astro said to my father

> PK: he will live near a Kartikeya temple

> PK: and a water body

> PK: even if there were none they came

> PK: where ever we lived

> PK: in chennai, Hyd, blr, chennai

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: so many houses

> PK: near our house we had no temples at all

> PK: now we have a kartikeya one

> Tarun Chopra: i see

> PK: and a amman-shakti

> Tarun Chopra: may be some connection is there

> PK: s there will be that is how i told u other day too

> PK: this is mars aspecting Jupt

> PK: and if jupt is 9th lord or aspecting 9th house or 9th lord by mars

> Tarun Chopra: does people visit your place for consultancy work

> PK: s

> PK: i am in this for 26 yrs now

> PK: and can tell u where people live by their chart

> PK: so many times

> Tarun Chopra: ya you have developed this

> Tarun Chopra: can you tell about me without looking of my chart

> Tarun Chopra: any thing about me without going through my chart

> PK: with chart alone we can

> Tarun Chopra: well try once what feeling you get

> PK: on

> Tarun Chopra: about me

> Tarun Chopra: any feeling you get for me

> Tarun Chopra: without going through my horoscope

> PK: as i said many times I like the spirit of research by anyone

> PK: but it must not be too far from tradition, i also mix a lot

> PK: my guru does we need to use the situation differently not change the

> rules

> Tarun Chopra: ok let me give you one example that you tell by intuition

> Tarun Chopra: i will give you one chart

> Tarun Chopra: you can tell any thing about her

> PK: s

> Tarun Chopra: 24/09/1977, 15:07:00, DST/WT 0, Rajpura, , India, Time Zone

> 5.50, Lat. 30 N 29, Long. 76 E 36

> PK: and i can post this in group the discussion

> Tarun Chopra: yes no problems

> PK: ok

> PK: which are u want to know of her?

> Tarun Chopra: tell any thing about her which you can find easily

> PK: ok

> Tarun Chopra: may be height

> Tarun Chopra: career

> Tarun Chopra: this time you are taking much time

> Tarun Chopra: last time you predicted instantly

> PK: with 4 people

> PK: kunal, prafulla, siddarth

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: and u

> PK: so got delayed

> PK: just entered the data

> PK: girls father is an engineer

> PK: or to do with power

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: if he is alive the sani over ravi he will be critical condition

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: he may have some health issues when she was 3-5 yrs old

> Tarun Chopra: i don't know about father i know about the girl only

> PK: she is good looking lean and nerves can be seen

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: veins also

> PK: short stature, high forehead

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: like a temple

> Tarun Chopra: good

> Tarun Chopra: about her career

> PK: in para medical or pharma

> PK: lives now in the west of her birth place

> PK: and close to a food processing unit or hospital for children

> PK: esp closer in 2010-11

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> Tarun Chopra: and tell me does has some master degree

> Tarun Chopra: and is she married

> PK: she will marry some one younger to her or less well of or less

> qualified than her

> PK: late marriage in 28-32 bracket

> Tarun Chopra: you are right now

> Tarun Chopra: let me tell you

> Tarun Chopra: you have predicted all by intuition

> Tarun Chopra: because the things which you have told about the girl is the

> girl which i was thinking in my mind

> PK: tell me what all was right and ask others to add I wont give reason s

> for it ok

> Tarun Chopra: i have given you a chart of a different girl

> PK: now way no esp or telepathy

> Tarun Chopra: and thought of a different girl

> Tarun Chopra: now you told that the girl is having short height

> Tarun Chopra: yes the person whom i am thinking off is having short height

> PK: well if this is not a genuine case I cant help astrology is not for

> that kind

> PK: of work I did a honest effort

> Tarun Chopra: and the chart is having good height

> PK: tell me what is right on this

> Tarun Chopra: you have told that this girl will get marry to a younger

> person in 28

> Tarun Chopra: yes the one which is in my mind has got married younger in

> 28

> PK: ok

> Tarun Chopra: and the chart which you have prepared is still unmarried

> PK: now give me both data

> PK: will let the group decide

> PK: u cant do this

> Tarun Chopra: i know people predict by intuition because astrologers have

> good intuition

> PK: ask on the chart u want

> PK: s u need intuition, not fully.

> PK: else how can u handle twins

> Tarun Chopra: you have told about a girl of this birth details Female,

> 09/11/1975, 10:00:00, DST/WT 0, Chandigarh, , India, Time Zone 5.50, Lat.

> 30 N 44, Long. 76 E 55,

> Tarun Chopra: yes this is what i am telling that astrologer predict

> correct with wrong horoscopes correctly

> Tarun Chopra: like you did right now

> Tarun Chopra: as the chart was of a girl who is having height of five

> point seven

> Tarun Chopra: and you told the height is less

> PK: why cant 2 people have similar not same fate

> PK: other than height other areas work, marriage his status etc

> PK: remember as u said she is unworried wait for what i said 28-32

> Tarun Chopra: and she is working in pharmaceutical company

> PK: ok

> PK: then what just height is issue?

> Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also as you have predicted

> of person whom chart you were not looking

> PK: marriage wait and c

> PK: will be like i said

> PK: some Younger or less qualified

> Tarun Chopra: you even described the face properly as i was thinking of

> that girl only and you caught the vibes correctly

> Tarun Chopra: so there is no need of astrology for you you can predict

> without charts also i also do

> PK: ok how is this pharma girl other face

> PK: how do buth look if u have pics give there date and send it

> Tarun Chopra:

> Tarun Chopra: hello i am puting this chat on the

> Tarun Chopra: should i do

> PK: u can no prob

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: send me pics o fboth if u have

> PK: r both same lagna

> PK: or triens of it

> Tarun Chopra: you must be shocked today to see this

> Tarun Chopra: the lagna are not same as one is sagi and other is capricorn

> Tarun Chopra: i calculated the chart with ramman

> Tarun Chopra: ok i will send the chat or you can do it

> Tarun Chopra: loging off now bye

> PK: whcih 1 is 5ftt 7

> PK: sag must be not makara

> Tarun Chopra: no the makra one

> Tarun Chopra: she is tall and not slim

> PK: u have pics of both

> PK: and moon sign of both

> Tarun Chopra: moon sign you can see by chart

> Tarun Chopra: as one is capricorn

> Tarun Chopra: and other is aquarious

> PK: ok

> PK: i am yet 2 c the 2nd one

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: so some makara is still there in 2nd

> Tarun Chopra: ya moon sign

> PK: that is the always there had u given them straight away

> PK: and asked i cud have given a better

> PK: pic of them

> PK: why one in min one in screen

> PK: u sit in any BVB OR ICAS session will know this is astro not intution

> PK: i am avg religions

> PK: v basci

> PK: only religious can havbe intution

> Tarun Chopra: you know you have good intution you can start predictions

> without looking at charts this will give you great freedom in predictions

> PK: say Ganesh

> PK: arjun

> PK: that will be halucination

> PK: not intution

> Tarun Chopra: you predicted the height of the girl which i was thinking

> right

> PK: i have 2 makara one rasi other lagna so I cant say i was off mark

> PK: and Mak lagna will marry as i said

> Tarun Chopra: not the person height whom chart you were looking

> PK: wait and c

> PK: whenever she marries

> Tarun Chopra: the other one which you told correctly

> Tarun Chopra: i told her about you

> Tarun Chopra: as she is married to an person who is younger than her

> PK: ok then where am i wrong

> PK: only Ht

> PK: how abt complexion

> Tarun Chopra: hight and career, about complexion, she lives near hospital

> Tarun Chopra: you have told all correct but not of the chart which i gave

> PK: career u said pharma?

> Tarun Chopra: you have told all things correct of the person which i was

> thinking off

> PK: ok what is this one doing

> Tarun Chopra: the one i have given you data is not working

> Tarun Chopra: still trying hard for her career

> PK: but qualified as

> Tarun Chopra: the one which you told who is working in a pharma company

> right now is a cost accountant

> PK: ok

> Tarun Chopra: and the other girl has completed her PHD in psychology

> PK: well ask er to apply for a pharma company or hospital she will get her

> JOB

> PK: HER INCOME is thru such a place

> Tarun Chopra: ok

> PK: whether she is paramedical or not

> PK: then tell me

> Tarun Chopra: the one which birth details i have given you first

> PK: s job less1

> Tarun Chopra: well i think it is not required because the issues were

> different here that if you are intuitive or not and yes you are highly

> intuitive and you have given a reading of a person whose chart was not there

> in front of you

> PK: but she will get a job in such places

> Tarun Chopra: may be but you have said she is working in pharma and the

> one i was thinking is working in pharma company

> Tarun Chopra: she is living near hospital

> PK: ok

> Tarun Chopra: lives west of her place

> PK: i am yet to c the other one now will c

> PK: and reading the mails in JR.

> PK: some 25 mails already

> PK: chatting with 5, brother too

> Tarun Chopra: no you should acknowledge that you are good intuitive person

> and you can predict without charts also as intuition does not require any

> medium or charts

> PK: u read the equilateral triangle i say always

> PK: the client, astrologer and god=intuition

> PK: if they align u get answers not to otherwise

> PK: if u put the one in ur mind here may be u still got that answers

> PK: not my fault

> PK: i did not predict about some not in ur mind or chart did i?

> Tarun Chopra: any way sir do try with people to predict without charts you

> will see your sucess rate will increase and you will get shocked to see how

> good intuition is when we

> PK: no way i repeat u need a serious client, astro and god all 3 in same

> angle

> PK: only then it flows

> Tarun Chopra: yes and you have all

> PK: if i had predicted totally opposite than u can say

> Tarun Chopra: good clients who need yur help

> Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also for them and you will

> able to pinpoint dates like i do without looking at charts

> PK: if I have no chart data i use prasna

> PK: no guess work anytime

> PK: and this u need siddhi [for intuition]

> PK: for it u need religions practice

> PK: i am a lazy one

> Tarun Chopra: yes i also use parshana charts

> Tarun Chopra: no you are doing praynama and by your nature you are

> intuitive

> PK: that is all

> PK: in fact i saw a prasna and then saw ur chart

> Tarun Chopra: no need of religious activates

> PK: to make sure what i see there and chart will be same

> Tarun Chopra: so you think you are not intuitive

> PK: in prasna nd the chart u gave both have 8th afflicted

> PK: i felt max god has still show me the clues on ur mind than the chart u

> tested me with

> PK: but still she will be working in such places when she gets it tell me

> Tarun Chopra: bye

>

>

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Dear Tarun ji,

 

Though intuition has a role, jyotishi uses this as his supplementary tool (in addition to his sound technical knowledge). That is what Prashant ji was narrating.

 

I strongly feel that Prashant ji's approach is more prudent and reliable - as seeing the chart from technical perspective and supplementing it with his initutive skills.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If you paint in your mind a picture of bright and happy expectations, you put yourself into a condition conducive to your goal.

 

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>

> occultwizard.tarun

> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:35:28 +0530

>

> Re: Astology works in a perfect triabngel 15/9

>

> It is amazing that people predict correctly with wrong charts like today

> prashant did as he told me all the right things about the person whom i

> was

> thinking with wrong horoscope.

>

> most of astrologers are intuitive and they give predictions with wrong

> charts correctly. that's why this ayanamsa issue is so difficult to

> prove.

> any way those who are using TA they must be getting the events as soon

> the

> dasha changes.

>

> with best wishes

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> www.occultwizard.com

>

> On 9/15/06, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

>>

>> Dear readers,

>>

>> I have qutie often said to get good predections we neea a perfect

>> eqilateral triagle the querent, the astrologer [knowledgeble and as

>> clean as

>> possible] and God whente questions is in perfect haromy it works

>> splendidly

>> no aynamsa [or chart is also need at times.]

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> This is a chat with Tarun chopra

>> HERE HE HAS ALWAY tried to push his ayanamsa and that it can define

>> anyting which is just one event a whole day but when i said it needs a

>> environment and many events can be said form that period,date he came up

>> with 2 test this is 2nd session. one held 2 weeks back will post later.

>>

>> HERE HE IS TESTING ME BY GIVING DATA OF ONE AND HAVING THE PICTURE OF

>> ANYOTHER IN HIS MIND, the end result he got the answer for what is in

>> his

>> mind, we are miles apart still the triangle seems to work here, HE GOT

>> WHAT

>> HE WAS looking and trying to fool astrology or me seems to have bounced

>> back

>> on him.

>>

>> READ ON.

>>

>>

>> Tarun Chopra: It is not surprising that people use different ayananamsas

>> and still they predict correct

>> PK: i told u there r many factors in prediction anyansa is too smal part

>> Tarun Chopra: ya but each ayanamsa gives different chart

>> Tarun Chopra: and different dasha

>> PK: chart/s and dasas still the combinations that change with each must

>> still giveu results

>> PK: have u not seen response to my posts by many

>> Tarun Chopra: yes yesterday i have read your post about the chart we

>> discused

>> PK: ok

>> PK: i want to post the chat as it is wanted u rpermission

>> PK: is it ok

>> PK: as no name of the other person is there u and me max

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: it just to debate the pint that astro is wide and a day many events

>> take place

>> PK: and background also will be there which is pure astro

>> PK: i got this from may sources

>> PK: ii can tell u our family astro said to my father

>> PK: he will live near a Kartikeya temple

>> PK: and a water body

>> PK: even if there were none they came

>> PK: where ever we lived

>> PK: in chennai, Hyd, blr, chennai

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: so many houses

>> PK: near our house we had no temples at all

>> PK: now we have a kartikeya one

>> Tarun Chopra: i see

>> PK: and a amman-shakti

>> Tarun Chopra: may be some connection is there

>> PK: s there will be that is how i told u other day too

>> PK: this is mars aspecting Jupt

>> PK: and if jupt is 9th lord or aspecting 9th house or 9th lord by mars

>> Tarun Chopra: does people visit your place for consultancy work

>> PK: s

>> PK: i am in this for 26 yrs now

>> PK: and can tell u where people live by their chart

>> PK: so many times

>> Tarun Chopra: ya you have developed this

>> Tarun Chopra: can you tell about me without looking of my chart

>> Tarun Chopra: any thing about me without going through my chart

>> PK: with chart alone we can

>> Tarun Chopra: well try once what feeling you get

>> PK: on

>> Tarun Chopra: about me

>> Tarun Chopra: any feeling you get for me

>> Tarun Chopra: without going through my horoscope

>> PK: as i said many times I like the spirit of research by anyone

>> PK: but it must not be too far from tradition, i also mix a lot

>> PK: my guru does we need to use the situation differently not change the

>> rules

>> Tarun Chopra: ok let me give you one example that you tell by intuition

>> Tarun Chopra: i will give you one chart

>> Tarun Chopra: you can tell any thing about her

>> PK: s

>> Tarun Chopra: 24/09/1977, 15:07:00, DST/WT 0, Rajpura, , India, Time

>> Zone

>> 5.50, Lat. 30 N 29, Long. 76 E 36

>> PK: and i can post this in group the discussion

>> Tarun Chopra: yes no problems

>> PK: ok

>> PK: which are u want to know of her?

>> Tarun Chopra: tell any thing about her which you can find easily

>> PK: ok

>> Tarun Chopra: may be height

>> Tarun Chopra: career

>> Tarun Chopra: this time you are taking much time

>> Tarun Chopra: last time you predicted instantly

>> PK: with 4 people

>> PK: kunal, prafulla, siddarth

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: and u

>> PK: so got delayed

>> PK: just entered the data

>> PK: girls father is an engineer

>> PK: or to do with power

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: if he is alive the sani over ravi he will be critical condition

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: he may have some health issues when she was 3-5 yrs old

>> Tarun Chopra: i don't know about father i know about the girl only

>> PK: she is good looking lean and nerves can be seen

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: veins also

>> PK: short stature, high forehead

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: like a temple

>> Tarun Chopra: good

>> Tarun Chopra: about her career

>> PK: in para medical or pharma

>> PK: lives now in the west of her birth place

>> PK: and close to a food processing unit or hospital for children

>> PK: esp closer in 2010-11

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> Tarun Chopra: and tell me does has some master degree

>> Tarun Chopra: and is she married

>> PK: she will marry some one younger to her or less well of or less

>> qualified than her

>> PK: late marriage in 28-32 bracket

>> Tarun Chopra: you are right now

>> Tarun Chopra: let me tell you

>> Tarun Chopra: you have predicted all by intuition

>> Tarun Chopra: because the things which you have told about the girl is

>> the

>> girl which i was thinking in my mind

>> PK: tell me what all was right and ask others to add I wont give reason

>> s

>> for it ok

>> Tarun Chopra: i have given you a chart of a different girl

>> PK: now way no esp or telepathy

>> Tarun Chopra: and thought of a different girl

>> Tarun Chopra: now you told that the girl is having short height

>> Tarun Chopra: yes the person whom i am thinking off is having short

>> height

>> PK: well if this is not a genuine case I cant help astrology is not for

>> that kind

>> PK: of work I did a honest effort

>> Tarun Chopra: and the chart is having good height

>> PK: tell me what is right on this

>> Tarun Chopra: you have told that this girl will get marry to a younger

>> person in 28

>> Tarun Chopra: yes the one which is in my mind has got married younger in

>> 28

>> PK: ok

>> Tarun Chopra: and the chart which you have prepared is still unmarried

>> PK: now give me both data

>> PK: will let the group decide

>> PK: u cant do this

>> Tarun Chopra: i know people predict by intuition because astrologers

>> have

>> good intuition

>> PK: ask on the chart u want

>> PK: s u need intuition, not fully.

>> PK: else how can u handle twins

>> Tarun Chopra: you have told about a girl of this birth details Female,

>> 09/11/1975, 10:00:00, DST/WT 0, Chandigarh, , India, Time Zone 5.50,

>> Lat.

>> 30 N 44, Long. 76 E 55,

>> Tarun Chopra: yes this is what i am telling that astrologer predict

>> correct with wrong horoscopes correctly

>> Tarun Chopra: like you did right now

>> Tarun Chopra: as the chart was of a girl who is having height of five

>> point seven

>> Tarun Chopra: and you told the height is less

>> PK: why cant 2 people have similar not same fate

>> PK: other than height other areas work, marriage his status etc

>> PK: remember as u said she is unworried wait for what i said 28-32

>> Tarun Chopra: and she is working in pharmaceutical company

>> PK: ok

>> PK: then what just height is issue?

>> Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also as you have

>> predicted

>> of person whom chart you were not looking

>> PK: marriage wait and c

>> PK: will be like i said

>> PK: some Younger or less qualified

>> Tarun Chopra: you even described the face properly as i was thinking of

>> that girl only and you caught the vibes correctly

>> Tarun Chopra: so there is no need of astrology for you you can predict

>> without charts also i also do

>> PK: ok how is this pharma girl other face

>> PK: how do buth look if u have pics give there date and send it

>> Tarun Chopra:

>> Tarun Chopra: hello i am puting this chat on the

>> Tarun Chopra: should i do

>> PK: u can no prob

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: send me pics o fboth if u have

>> PK: r both same lagna

>> PK: or triens of it

>> Tarun Chopra: you must be shocked today to see this

>> Tarun Chopra: the lagna are not same as one is sagi and other is

>> capricorn

>> Tarun Chopra: i calculated the chart with ramman

>> Tarun Chopra: ok i will send the chat or you can do it

>> Tarun Chopra: loging off now bye

>> PK: whcih 1 is 5ftt 7

>> PK: sag must be not makara

>> Tarun Chopra: no the makra one

>> Tarun Chopra: she is tall and not slim

>> PK: u have pics of both

>> PK: and moon sign of both

>> Tarun Chopra: moon sign you can see by chart

>> Tarun Chopra: as one is capricorn

>> Tarun Chopra: and other is aquarious

>> PK: ok

>> PK: i am yet 2 c the 2nd one

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: so some makara is still there in 2nd

>> Tarun Chopra: ya moon sign

>> PK: that is the always there had u given them straight away

>> PK: and asked i cud have given a better

>> PK: pic of them

>> PK: why one in min one in screen

>> PK: u sit in any BVB OR ICAS session will know this is astro not

>> intution

>> PK: i am avg religions

>> PK: v basci

>> PK: only religious can havbe intution

>> Tarun Chopra: you know you have good intution you can start predictions

>> without looking at charts this will give you great freedom in

>> predictions

>> PK: say Ganesh

>> PK: arjun

>> PK: that will be halucination

>> PK: not intution

>> Tarun Chopra: you predicted the height of the girl which i was thinking

>> right

>> PK: i have 2 makara one rasi other lagna so I cant say i was off mark

>> PK: and Mak lagna will marry as i said

>> Tarun Chopra: not the person height whom chart you were looking

>> PK: wait and c

>> PK: whenever she marries

>> Tarun Chopra: the other one which you told correctly

>> Tarun Chopra: i told her about you

>> Tarun Chopra: as she is married to an person who is younger than her

>> PK: ok then where am i wrong

>> PK: only Ht

>> PK: how abt complexion

>> Tarun Chopra: hight and career, about complexion, she lives near

>> hospital

>> Tarun Chopra: you have told all correct but not of the chart which i

>> gave

>> PK: career u said pharma?

>> Tarun Chopra: you have told all things correct of the person which i was

>> thinking off

>> PK: ok what is this one doing

>> Tarun Chopra: the one i have given you data is not working

>> Tarun Chopra: still trying hard for her career

>> PK: but qualified as

>> Tarun Chopra: the one which you told who is working in a pharma company

>> right now is a cost accountant

>> PK: ok

>> Tarun Chopra: and the other girl has completed her PHD in psychology

>> PK: well ask er to apply for a pharma company or hospital she will get

>> her

>> JOB

>> PK: HER INCOME is thru such a place

>> Tarun Chopra: ok

>> PK: whether she is paramedical or not

>> PK: then tell me

>> Tarun Chopra: the one which birth details i have given you first

>> PK: s job less1

>> Tarun Chopra: well i think it is not required because the issues were

>> different here that if you are intuitive or not and yes you are highly

>> intuitive and you have given a reading of a person whose chart was not

>> there

>> in front of you

>> PK: but she will get a job in such places

>> Tarun Chopra: may be but you have said she is working in pharma and the

>> one i was thinking is working in pharma company

>> Tarun Chopra: she is living near hospital

>> PK: ok

>> Tarun Chopra: lives west of her place

>> PK: i am yet to c the other one now will c

>> PK: and reading the mails in JR.

>> PK: some 25 mails already

>> PK: chatting with 5, brother too

>> Tarun Chopra: no you should acknowledge that you are good intuitive

>> person

>> and you can predict without charts also as intuition does not require

>> any

>> medium or charts

>> PK: u read the equilateral triangle i say always

>> PK: the client, astrologer and god=intuition

>> PK: if they align u get answers not to otherwise

>> PK: if u put the one in ur mind here may be u still got that answers

>> PK: not my fault

>> PK: i did not predict about some not in ur mind or chart did i?

>> Tarun Chopra: any way sir do try with people to predict without charts

>> you

>> will see your sucess rate will increase and you will get shocked to see

>> how

>> good intuition is when we

>> PK: no way i repeat u need a serious client, astro and god all 3 in same

>> angle

>> PK: only then it flows

>> Tarun Chopra: yes and you have all

>> PK: if i had predicted totally opposite than u can say

>> Tarun Chopra: good clients who need yur help

>> Tarun Chopra: so you can predict without charts also for them and you

>> will

>> able to pinpoint dates like i do without looking at charts

>> PK: if I have no chart data i use prasna

>> PK: no guess work anytime

>> PK: and this u need siddhi [for intuition]

>> PK: for it u need religions practice

>> PK: i am a lazy one

>> Tarun Chopra: yes i also use parshana charts

>> Tarun Chopra: no you are doing praynama and by your nature you are

>> intuitive

>> PK: that is all

>> PK: in fact i saw a prasna and then saw ur chart

>> Tarun Chopra: no need of religious activates

>> PK: to make sure what i see there and chart will be same

>> Tarun Chopra: so you think you are not intuitive

>> PK: in prasna nd the chart u gave both have 8th afflicted

>> PK: i felt max god has still show me the clues on ur mind than the chart

>> u

>> tested me with

>> PK: but still she will be working in such places when she gets it tell

>> me

>> Tarun Chopra: bye

>>

>>

>> Prashantkumar G B

>>

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[Guest guest]

Hi I am Erik, American astrologer. Here to learn more Jyotish.

 

PK: i am avg religions

PK: v basci

PK: only religious can havbe intution

 

PK: and this u need siddhi [for intuition]

PK: for it u need religions practice

Tarun Chopra: no need of religious activates

 

Prashant and Tarun, I am surprised you both did not think of this:

the sadhana and karma yoga that may have been done in previous

lifetimes.

[Guest guest]

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Erik,

I am pasting a URL, i hope it will give some help...

http://lightonVedic Astrology.com/dailyjyotish-091406.htm

Gaurav

 

 

, "Erik" <erikpriest wrote:

>

> Hi I am Erik, American astrologer. Here to learn more Jyotish.

>

> PK: i am avg religions

> PK: v basci

> PK: only religious can havbe intution

>

> PK: and this u need siddhi [for intuition]

> PK: for it u need religions practice

> Tarun Chopra: no need of religious activates

>

> Prashant and Tarun, I am surprised you both did not think of this:

> the sadhana and karma yoga that may have been done in previous

> lifetimes.

>

[Guest guest]

, "" <gg_0202

wrote:

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Erik,

> I am pasting a URL, i hope it will give some help...

> http://lightonVedic Astrology.com/dailyjyotish-091406.htm

> Gaurav

 

Yes thank you this is great help. I am a "big fan" of Edgar Cayce. I

shared the link with my friend, also an astrologer. Thank you