Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji, I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, than serving people ... Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and filthy market place. Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for getting sound and unprejudiced advise. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > > PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > > Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > on other members and commentiing ironically and > with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > to do this. At least the members in question, me > and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > > If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > behaviour ? > > A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > behaviour here ? > > Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > made in this Forum ? > for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > indulge in senseless rattling > or for those who are periodically rattling ? > > > some are very ready and eager to comment as like > GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > to use that English too > here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > between members, which if one visits other Forums > he will find there too periodically. > In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > strange about that. > > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Prafulla Bhai, No offence to any one. I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. But contnious puns is not in good line. Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. A good judge and his judgement would always be respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. But i appreciate your defence. regards, , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, than serving people ... > > Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and filthy market place. > > Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > > > > PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > > to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > > lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > > not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > > senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > > school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > > > > Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > > themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > > on other members and commentiing ironically and > > with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > > pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > > to do this. At least the members in question, me > > and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > > question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > > natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > > > > If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > > and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > > on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > > behaviour ? > > > > A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > > coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > > 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > > taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > > behaviour here ? > > > > Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > > eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > > view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > > made in this Forum ? > > for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > > indulge in senseless rattling > > or for those who are periodically rattling ? > > > > > > some are very ready and eager to comment as like > > GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > > Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > > Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > > to use that English too > > here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > > here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > > demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > > between members, which if one visits other Forums > > he will find there too periodically. > > In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > > partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > > noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > > strange about that. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Prafulla Gang Ji, Rohini Ranjan Ji has very very deep thinking. From his articles on different issues i feel that he is very close to getting enlightment. But still this forum (i guess) is for astrologers and for students who are learning it along with the people who are in pain. Rohini Ranjan's view are very profound and they catch the attention. People (like me) cant resist themselves from discussion. Then the chain reaction starts. All astrologers start contributing into the discussion and hence it becomes a non-astrology group. I guess ( and has already been purposed by you) that a new should be opened to discuss all these matters. I would like to be a member of that group. Best Wishes Jagdish Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji, I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, than serving people ... Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and filthy market place. Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for getting sound and unprejudiced advise. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > > PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > > Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > on other members and commentiing ironically and > with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > to do this. At least the members in question, me > and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > > If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > behaviour ? > > A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > behaviour here ? > > Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > made in this Forum ? > for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > indulge in senseless rattling > or for those who are periodically rattling ? > > > some are very ready and eager to comment as like > GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > to use that English too > here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > between members, which if one visits other Forums > he will find there too periodically. > In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > strange about that. > > > Bhaskar. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji, What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Prafulla Bhai, > > No offence to any one. > I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, > without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. > But contnious puns is not in good line. > Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. > A good judge and his judgement would always be > respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. > > I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are > doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, > about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. > > But i appreciate your defence. > > regards, > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any > responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those > readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, > than serving people ... >> >> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's > forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > filthy market place. >> >> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any > forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >> ************************************************ >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>> >>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>> >>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>> >>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>> >>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>> behaviour ? >>> >>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>> behaviour here ? >>> >>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>> made in this Forum ? >>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>> indulge in senseless rattling >>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>> >>> >>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>> to use that English too >>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>> he will find there too periodically. >>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>> strange about that. >>> >>> >>> Bhaskar. >> __________ GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Prafullaji, Every word agreed. I am ready to second any suggestion to ban all natives coming here for chart reading. This Forum should be strictly for jyotish reading. I too had entered the Forum for that only,but find that is less, and enquiries are more. Yes students would risk lives and suggest wrong decesions to native by making wrong predictions and remedies, which is not good. That area should be left for experts only. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. > > Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 > > > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > Prafulla Bhai, > > > > No offence to any one. > > I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, > > without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. > > But contnious puns is not in good line. > > Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. > > A good judge and his judgement would always be > > respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. > > > > I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are > > doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, > > about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. > > > > But i appreciate your defence. > > > > regards, > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >> > >> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > > astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > > sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any > > responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those > > readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are > > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, > > than serving people ... > >> > >> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > > forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's > > forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > > filthy market place. > >> > >> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any > > forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > > something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > > getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > >> ************************************************ > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > >>> > >>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > >>> > >>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > >>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > >>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > >>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > >>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > >>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > >>> > >>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > >>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > >>> on other members and commentiing ironically and > >>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > >>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > >>> to do this. At least the members in question, me > >>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > >>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > >>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > >>> > >>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > >>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > >>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > >>> behaviour ? > >>> > >>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > >>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > >>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > >>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > >>> behaviour here ? > >>> > >>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > >>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > >>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > >>> made in this Forum ? > >>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > >>> indulge in senseless rattling > >>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? > >>> > >>> > >>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like > >>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > >>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > >>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > >>> to use that English too > >>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > >>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > >>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > >>> between members, which if one visits other Forums > >>> he will find there too periodically. > >>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > >>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > >>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > >>> strange about that. > >>> > >>> > >>> Bhaskar. > >> > > __________ > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Sir Prafulla Gang Ji Greetings I think that you feel "Jagdish" is " Bhaskar Ji." I guess you were talking about me but addressed to Bhaskar Ji Funny !! Now i am a student of astrology. I know my limitation. I never tell about the future of the person. I always tell about their past (to confirm my knowledge). I am still unable to tell future and will not say anything till i get confidence. When people (in pain) write in personal to me. Then i asked them to tell me about their years gone. It helps in my study. I collect charts and the incidents in lives of the person. I rarely tell anyone about their future. I dont believe in "remedies" as i dont believe in GOD. So no question of advising someone. That was about me. Regarding "spritual" mails from Rohini Ranjan Ji, I seriously feel they are so many in the group. Rest is upto you and RR Ji.... Best Wishes Jagdish Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji, What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Prafulla Bhai, > > No offence to any one. > I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, > without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. > But contnious puns is not in good line. > Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. > A good judge and his judgement would always be > respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. > > I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are > doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, > about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. > > But i appreciate your defence. > > regards, > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any > responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those > readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, > than serving people ... >> >> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's > forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > filthy market place. >> >> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any > forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >> ************************************************ >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>> >>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>> >>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>> >>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>> >>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>> behaviour ? >>> >>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>> behaviour here ? >>> >>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>> made in this Forum ? >>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>> indulge in senseless rattling >>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>> >>> >>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>> to use that English too >>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>> he will find there too periodically. >>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>> strange about that. >>> >>> >>> Bhaskar. >> ________ GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji, Wonderful !! So, we keep the forum for discussions and knowledge / experience sharing; and can have seperate dedicated area for chart readings. That is what exactly, I could understand from Ranjan ji's mail- a seperate section for both the areas. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:24:55 -0000 > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Dear Prafullaji, > > Every word agreed. I am ready to second any suggestion to ban all > natives coming here for chart reading. This Forum should be strictly > for jyotish reading. I too had entered the Forum for that only,but > find that is less, and enquiries are more. > Yes students would risk lives and suggest wrong decesions to > native by making wrong predictions and remedies, which is not > good. That area should be left for experts only. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - > who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. >> >> Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for > chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around > jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated > section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can > continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture > predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >> ************************************************ >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 >>> >>> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>> >>> Prafulla Bhai, >>> >>> No offence to any one. >>> I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, >>> without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. >>> But contnious puns is not in good line. >>> Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. >>> A good judge and his judgement would always be >>> respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. >>> >>> I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are >>> doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, >>> about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. >>> >>> But i appreciate your defence. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>> >>>> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those >>> astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am >>> sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without > any >>> responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of > those >>> readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who > are >>> predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming > more, >>> than serving people ... >>>> >>>> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This >>> forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not > querent's >>> forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and >>> filthy market place. >>>> >>>> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to > any >>> forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested >>> something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for >>> getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >>> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >>> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >>> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>>> ************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>>> >>>>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>>>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>>>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>>>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>>>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>>>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>>>> >>>>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>>>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>>>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>>>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>>>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>>>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>>>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>>>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>>>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>>>> >>>>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>>>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>>>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>>>> behaviour ? >>>>> >>>>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>>>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>>>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>>>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>>>> behaviour here ? >>>>> >>>>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>>>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>>>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>>>> made in this Forum ? >>>>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>>>> indulge in senseless rattling >>>>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>>>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>>>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>>>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>>>> to use that English too >>>>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>>>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>>>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>>>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>>>> he will find there too periodically. >>>>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>>>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>>>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>>>> strange about that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>> >> >> __________ >> GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos > and music online! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 No sir, that mail contents were not addressed to anyone in specific. My comment was very general in nature. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > upaoakcrest > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:39:04 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Dear Sir Prafulla Gang Ji > > Greetings > > I think that you feel "Jagdish" is " Bhaskar Ji." I guess you were > talking about me but addressed to Bhaskar Ji > > Funny !! > > Now i am a student of astrology. I know my limitation. I never tell > about the future of the person. I always tell about their past (to > confirm my knowledge). I am still unable to tell future and will not say > anything till i get confidence. > > When people (in pain) write in personal to me. Then i asked them to > tell me about their years gone. It helps in my study. I collect charts > and the incidents in lives of the person. I rarely tell anyone about > their future. > > I dont believe in "remedies" as i dont believe in GOD. So no question > of advising someone. > > That was about me. > > Regarding "spritual" mails from Rohini Ranjan Ji, I seriously feel they > are so many in the group. Rest is upto you and RR Ji.... > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - who want > to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. > > Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for chart > readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around jyotish. > This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated section to be > answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can continue amongst > "students". BTW, "students' must not venture predicting / suggesting > remedies, risking life of querents. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And > that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that > is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of > fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > >> >> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in >> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 >> >> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >> >> Prafulla Bhai, >> >> No offence to any one. >> I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, >> without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. >> But contnious puns is not in good line. >> Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. >> A good judge and his judgement would always be >> respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. >> >> I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are >> doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, >> about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. >> >> But i appreciate your defence. >> >> regards, >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>> >>> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those >> astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am >> sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any >> responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those >> readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are >> predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, >> than serving people ... >>> >>> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This >> forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's >> forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and >> filthy market place. >>> >>> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any >> forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested >> something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for >> getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>> ************************************************ >>> >>> >>>> >>>> bhaskar_jyotish >>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>>> >>>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>> >>>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>>> >>>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>>> >>>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>>> behaviour ? >>>> >>>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>>> behaviour here ? >>>> >>>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>>> made in this Forum ? >>>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>>> indulge in senseless rattling >>>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>>> >>>> >>>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>>> to use that English too >>>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>>> he will find there too periodically. >>>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>>> strange about that. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bhaskar. >>> > > ________ > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and > music online! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates starting at 1¢/min. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 "Bhaskar Ji Vs. Prafulla Gang Ji" Cool !!!!! Best Wishes Jagdish Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji, Wonderful !! So, we keep the forum for discussions and knowledge / experience sharing; and can have seperate dedicated area for chart readings. That is what exactly, I could understand from Ranjan ji's mail- a seperate section for both the areas. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:24:55 -0000 > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Dear Prafullaji, > > Every word agreed. I am ready to second any suggestion to ban all > natives coming here for chart reading. This Forum should be strictly > for jyotish reading. I too had entered the Forum for that only,but > find that is less, and enquiries are more. > Yes students would risk lives and suggest wrong decesions to > native by making wrong predictions and remedies, which is not > good. That area should be left for experts only. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - > who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. >> >> Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for > chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around > jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated > section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can > continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture > predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >> ************************************************ >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 >>> >>> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>> >>> Prafulla Bhai, >>> >>> No offence to any one. >>> I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, >>> without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. >>> But contnious puns is not in good line. >>> Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. >>> A good judge and his judgement would always be >>> respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. >>> >>> I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are >>> doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, >>> about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. >>> >>> But i appreciate your defence. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>> >>>> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those >>> astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am >>> sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without > any >>> responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of > those >>> readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who > are >>> predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming > more, >>> than serving people ... >>>> >>>> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This >>> forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not > querent's >>> forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and >>> filthy market place. >>>> >>>> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to > any >>> forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested >>> something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for >>> getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >>> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >>> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >>> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>>> ************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>>> >>>>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>>>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>>>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>>>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>>>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>>>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>>>> >>>>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>>>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>>>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>>>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>>>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>>>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>>>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>>>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>>>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>>>> >>>>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>>>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>>>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>>>> behaviour ? >>>>> >>>>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>>>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>>>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>>>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>>>> behaviour here ? >>>>> >>>>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>>>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>>>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>>>> made in this Forum ? >>>>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>>>> indulge in senseless rattling >>>>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>>>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>>>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>>>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>>>> to use that English too >>>>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>>>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>>>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>>>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>>>> he will find there too periodically. >>>>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>>>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>>>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>>>> strange about that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>> >> >> ________ >> GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos > and music online! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! >> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Sorry Jagdish ji, this note is specific for you. There is nothing like A vs B; we all are sharing opinions and understanbly freely. Yes, personal comments do hurt. and it hurts more, when generalized comments are perceived / reacted as personal ones. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > upaoakcrest > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:49:59 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > "Bhaskar Ji Vs. Prafulla Gang Ji" > > Cool !!!!! > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Wonderful !! So, we keep the forum for discussions and knowledge / > experience sharing; and can have seperate dedicated area for chart > readings. > > That is what exactly, I could understand from Ranjan ji's mail- a > seperate section for both the areas. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And > that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that > is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of > fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > >> >> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in >> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:24:55 -0000 >> >> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >> >> Dear Prafullaji, >> >> Every word agreed. I am ready to second any suggestion to ban all >> natives coming here for chart reading. This Forum should be strictly >> for jyotish reading. I too had entered the Forum for that only,but >> find that is less, and enquiries are more. >> Yes students would risk lives and suggest wrong decesions to >> native by making wrong predictions and remedies, which is not >> good. That area should be left for experts only. >> >> regards, >> Bhaskar. >> >> >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>> >>> What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - >> who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. >>> >>> Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for >> chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around >> jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated >> section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can >> continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture >> predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>> ************************************************ >>> >>> >>>> >>>> bhaskar_jyotish >>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 >>>> >>>> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>> >>>> Prafulla Bhai, >>>> >>>> No offence to any one. >>>> I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, >>>> without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. >>>> But contnious puns is not in good line. >>>> Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. >>>> A good judge and his judgement would always be >>>> respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. >>>> >>>> I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are >>>> doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, >>>> about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. >>>> >>>> But i appreciate your defence. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>>> >>>>> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those >>>> astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am >>>> sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without >> any >>>> responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of >> those >>>> readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who >> are >>>> predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming >> more, >>>> than serving people ... >>>>> >>>>> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This >>>> forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not >> querent's >>>> forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and >>>> filthy market place. >>>>> >>>>> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to >> any >>>> forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested >>>> something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for >>>> getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >>>> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >>>> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >>>> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>>>> ************************************************ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>>>> >>>>>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>>>>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>>>>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>>>>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>>>>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>>>>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>>>>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>>>>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>>>>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>>>>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>>>>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>>>>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>>>>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>>>>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>>>>> >>>>>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>>>>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>>>>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>>>>> behaviour ? >>>>>> >>>>>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>>>>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>>>>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>>>>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>>>>> behaviour here ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>>>>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>>>>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>>>>> made in this Forum ? >>>>>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>>>>> indulge in senseless rattling >>>>>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>>>>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>>>>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>>>>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>>>>> to use that English too >>>>>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>>>>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>>>>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>>>>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>>>>> he will find there too periodically. >>>>>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>>>>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>>>>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>>>>> strange about that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>> >>> ________ >>> GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos >> and music online! >>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! >>> > > > > > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Sir Gang Ji, As far my knowledge and experience goes... "Generalized Statements" are very very deceiving and misleading as "Gaj-Kesari Yoga" and "Budh-Aditiya Yoga." I found this yoga in many many horoscopes. Old scriptures say plenty of thing about this yoga. But saw them rarely working. Any comments ? Jagdish Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Sorry Jagdish ji, this note is specific for you. There is nothing like A vs B; we all are sharing opinions and understanbly freely. Yes, personal comments do hurt. and it hurts more, when generalized comments are perceived / reacted as personal ones. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > upaoakcrest > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:49:59 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > "Bhaskar Ji Vs. Prafulla Gang Ji" > > Cool !!!!! > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Wonderful !! So, we keep the forum for discussions and knowledge / > experience sharing; and can have seperate dedicated area for chart > readings. > > That is what exactly, I could understand from Ranjan ji's mail- a > seperate section for both the areas. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And > that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that > is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of > fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > >> >> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in >> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:24:55 -0000 >> >> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >> >> Dear Prafullaji, >> >> Every word agreed. I am ready to second any suggestion to ban all >> natives coming here for chart reading. This Forum should be strictly >> for jyotish reading. I too had entered the Forum for that only,but >> find that is less, and enquiries are more. >> Yes students would risk lives and suggest wrong decesions to >> native by making wrong predictions and remedies, which is not >> good. That area should be left for experts only. >> >> regards, >> Bhaskar. >> >> >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>> >>> What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - >> who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. >>> >>> Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for >> chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around >> jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated >> section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can >> continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture >> predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>> ************************************************ >>> >>> >>>> >>>> bhaskar_jyotish >>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 >>>> >>>> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>> >>>> Prafulla Bhai, >>>> >>>> No offence to any one. >>>> I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, >>>> without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. >>>> But contnious puns is not in good line. >>>> Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. >>>> A good judge and his judgement would always be >>>> respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. >>>> >>>> I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are >>>> doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, >>>> about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. >>>> >>>> But i appreciate your defence. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>>> >>>>> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those >>>> astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am >>>> sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without >> any >>>> responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of >> those >>>> readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who >> are >>>> predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming >> more, >>>> than serving people ... >>>>> >>>>> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This >>>> forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not >> querent's >>>> forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and >>>> filthy market place. >>>>> >>>>> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to >> any >>>> forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested >>>> something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for >>>> getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> >>>>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >>>> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >>>> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >>>> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>>>> ************************************************ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>>>> >>>>>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>>>>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>>>>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>>>>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>>>>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>>>>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>>>>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>>>>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>>>>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>>>>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>>>>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>>>>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>>>>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>>>>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>>>>> >>>>>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>>>>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>>>>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>>>>> behaviour ? >>>>>> >>>>>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>>>>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>>>>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>>>>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>>>>> behaviour here ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>>>>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>>>>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>>>>> made in this Forum ? >>>>>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>>>>> indulge in senseless rattling >>>>>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>>>>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>>>>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>>>>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>>>>> to use that English too >>>>>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>>>>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>>>>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>>>>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>>>>> he will find there too periodically. >>>>>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>>>>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>>>>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>>>>> strange about that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>> >>> ________ >>> GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos >> and music online! >>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! >>> > > > > > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Can i request you Jagdish ji to address me by Prafulla. Well, for any shubha yoga, the planets prescribed must be functional benefic for that lagna in specific. and then only the shubha yoga comes into existence for that chart. So - for gajkesari - both guru / moon must be FB for the chart - and for example - then for kumbha lagna - moon being FM, this yoga will not be formed. Ofcourse, if yoga is in existence, then its results (and intensity) will depend upon their strengths (including D 9) and obstructing forces (e.g. afflictions etc). regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > upaoakcrest > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:00:02 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > Dear Sir Gang Ji, > > As far my knowledge and experience goes... "Generalized Statements" > are very very deceiving and misleading as "Gaj-Kesari Yoga" and > "Budh-Aditiya Yoga." > > I found this yoga in many many horoscopes. Old scriptures say plenty of > thing about this yoga. But saw them rarely working. > > Any comments ? > > Jagdish > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Sorry Jagdish ji, this note is specific for you. > > There is nothing like A vs B; we all are sharing opinions and > understanbly freely. Yes, personal comments do hurt. and it hurts more, > when generalized comments are perceived / reacted as personal ones. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And > that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that > is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of > fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > >> >> upaoakcrest >> Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:49:59 -0700 (PDT) >> >> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >> >> "Bhaskar Ji Vs. Prafulla Gang Ji" >> >> Cool !!!!! >> >> Best Wishes >> >> Jagdish >> >> >> >> >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> Wonderful !! So, we keep the forum for discussions and knowledge / >> experience sharing; and can have seperate dedicated area for chart >> readings. >> >> That is what exactly, I could understand from Ranjan ji's mail- a >> seperate section for both the areas. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And >> that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that >> is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of >> fulfilling those expectations. >> ************************************************ >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:24:55 -0000 >>> >>> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>> >>> Dear Prafullaji, >>> >>> Every word agreed. I am ready to second any suggestion to ban all >>> natives coming here for chart reading. This Forum should be strictly >>> for jyotish reading. I too had entered the Forum for that only,but >>> find that is less, and enquiries are more. >>> Yes students would risk lives and suggest wrong decesions to >>> native by making wrong predictions and remedies, which is not >>> good. That area should be left for experts only. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>> >>>> What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - >>> who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. >>>> >>>> Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for >>> chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around >>> jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated >>> section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can >>> continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture >>> predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >>> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >>> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >>> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>>> ************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish >>>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>>> >>>>> Prafulla Bhai, >>>>> >>>>> No offence to any one. >>>>> I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, >>>>> without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. >>>>> But contnious puns is not in good line. >>>>> Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. >>>>> A good judge and his judgement would always be >>>>> respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. >>>>> >>>>> I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are >>>>> doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, >>>>> about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. >>>>> >>>>> But i appreciate your defence. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those >>>>> astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am >>>>> sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without >>> any >>>>> responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of >>> those >>>>> readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who >>> are >>>>> predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming >>> more, >>>>> than serving people ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This >>>>> forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not >>> querent's >>>>> forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and >>>>> filthy market place. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to >>> any >>>>> forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested >>>>> something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for >>>>> getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an >>>>> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our >>>>> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles >>>>> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >>>>>> ************************************************ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>>>>>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>>>>>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>>>>>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>>>>>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>>>>>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>>>>>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>>>>>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>>>>>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>>>>>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>>>>>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>>>>>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>>>>>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>>>>>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>>>>>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>>>>>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>>>>>> behaviour ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>>>>>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>>>>>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>>>>>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>>>>>> behaviour here ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>>>>>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>>>>>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>>>>>> made in this Forum ? >>>>>>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>>>>>> indulge in senseless rattling >>>>>>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>>>>>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>>>>>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>>>>>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>>>>>> to use that English too >>>>>>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>>>>>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>>>>>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>>>>>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>>>>>> he will find there too periodically. >>>>>>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>>>>>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>>>>>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>>>>>> strange about that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> ________ >>>> GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos >>> and music online! >>>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun ji, Interesting "holy" note !! Perhaps karmic for me or for you or may be for both of us ?? Few issues are relating to forum practices in general - where Rishi has already replied. I second his opnion and do not wish to repeat them again. For few personal comments made by you - I am really sorry to see commercial postings on the thread - I wish Tanveer ji has allowed them in his forum agenda!! If No - then - who is violating the norms of the forum - "YOU" or "Me". My "non" jyotish messages are not harmful in nature, and are always as response to existing thread. At least - I do not claim to be astrologer with less than 5 years of experience - and am not claiming to find "quick fix" for querents; nor do I make any announcement of "selling holy things". I am not party to vested interests and not contributed in making this as "market place". Members of this forum can read the archives and vouch for above. I have not made any personal attacks and on each ocassion - my comments were very generalized. Why should it be hurting selectively to few members - may be "vested interests". No one is senior / junior - we are here to share knowledge or experience and at no stage, I have rediculed any individual. regards / Prafulla Gang It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. ************************************************ > > panditarjun2004 > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 05:15:19 -0000 > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES (for prafullaji) > > dear prafullaji > > you wrote: > "What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming > more, than serving people ... " > > even though your observations are specific to bhaskarji's mail, your > general negative criticism of contributing astrologers needs > substantiation by facts or proof. > > what do you mean by this sentence. you wish to subject all > contributors taking time and parting knowledge freely and spending > energies freely have to be SUBJECTED TO CREDIBILITY, NAY, YOU BRAND > THEM HARMING THE QUERENTS MORE THAN SERVING. facts speak > otherwise. can you show any mails from querents complaining about > negative results after performing remedies from this group. on the > contrary i read hundreds of thank you mails in this group. > > if few astrologers are reading charts and suggesting remedies in > this group and thousands of qeurents approach them, you come and > decalre publicly that they are doing harm and you shall subject them > to credibility tests. > > you study the shastras which prescribe these remedies and you > glorify them. do you say in groups that they need to be subjected > to credibility and brand them doing more harm than good. > > eminent astrologers and sages (i dont want to name) have written > books on these remedies and you buy these books. do you criticise > them for suggesting quick fix remedies. > > dear prafullaji, this is a free forum where members can get whatever > is offered freely. some querents ask and get more information > freely. but you cannot brand as if these astrologers are not > credible or not accountable as if they are working in an NGO funded > by you and hence they failed in dereliction of duty. > > in several mails, you criticised the contributors to stop discussing > non jyotish contents whereas (after that post) you are the most > active contributor in most of these non jyotish threads. the owners > and moderators of this group are not demanding or suggesting or > asking these things. in fact once tanvirji clearly stated in a > public mail to discuss or share all knowledge freely. you are also > vocal in splitting the group or starting a separate group for > readings, discussions on jyotish, discussion on nonjyotish etc. old > contributors of this group (both jyotish and nonjyotish) have never > asked for this division and are comfortable with the way the group > owner is allowing every member to freely discuss non jyotish content > besides serious reading of charts. > > members are greatly benefitting from various discussion threads as > well as reading of charts. but your public declaration of all > contributing astrologers who are giving free readings and suggesting > remedies DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD, DAMAGES THE REPUTATION OF THIS > GROUP AND WARNS THE QUERENTS THAT HERE IS A GROUP WHERE YOU FIND > ASTROLOGERS WHO ARE NOT CREDIBLE, WHO SUGGEST REMEDIES AND CAUSE > HARM TO YOU. ALAS, IN KALIYUGA EVEN THOSE WHO ARE CONTRIBUTING > FREELY ARE TERMED AS DOING HARM TO OTHERS. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji, >> >> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any > responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those > readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming > more, than serving people ... >> >> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's > forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > filthy market place. >> >> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any > forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > getting sound and unprejudiced advise. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. >> ************************************************ >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 >>> >>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES >>> >>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., >>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning >>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, >>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all >>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in >>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. >>> >>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either >>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark >>> on other members and commentiing ironically and >>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made >>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got >>> to do this. At least the members in question, me >>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in >>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering >>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? >>> >>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day >>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses >>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital >>> behaviour ? >>> >>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again >>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? >>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them >>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal >>> behaviour here ? >>> >>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced >>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic >>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be >>> made in this Forum ? >>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times >>> indulge in senseless rattling >>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? >>> >>> >>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like >>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, >>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, >>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know >>> to use that English too >>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are >>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would >>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles >>> between members, which if one visits other Forums >>> he will find there too periodically. >>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need >>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some >>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing >>> strange about that. >>> >>> >>> Bhaskar. >> __________ GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Prafulla, Was someone talking negatively about me (I am inferring from your post!)? Did I hit anyone's buttons, again? <guffaw>!!! RR , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, than serving people ... > > Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and filthy market place. > > Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > > > > PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > > to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > > lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > > not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > > senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > > school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > > > > Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > > themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > > on other members and commentiing ironically and > > with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > > pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > > to do this. At least the members in question, me > > and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > > question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > > natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > > > > If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > > and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > > on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > > behaviour ? > > > > A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > > coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > > 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > > taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > > behaviour here ? > > > > Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > > eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > > view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > > made in this Forum ? > > for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > > indulge in senseless rattling > > or for those who are periodically rattling ? > > > > > > some are very ready and eager to comment as like > > GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > > Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > > Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > > to use that English too > > here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > > here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > > demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > > between members, which if one visits other Forums > > he will find there too periodically. > > In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > > partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > > noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > > strange about that. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Jagdish, As I have often reminded people here, I am just a tiny ant. I cannot help it if people use magnifying glasses to see me. Some see me as larger than life, others see the ugly scratches that harsh critics focus on. To each, his own Maya! RR , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Prafulla Gang Ji, > > Rohini Ranjan Ji has very very deep thinking. From his articles on different issues i feel that he is very close to getting enlightment. > > But still this forum (i guess) is for astrologers and for students who are learning it along with the people who are in pain. > > Rohini Ranjan's view are very profound and they catch the attention. People (like me) cant resist themselves from discussion. > > Then the chain reaction starts. All astrologers start contributing into the discussion and hence it becomes a non-astrology group. > > I guess ( and has already been purposed by you) that a new group should be opened to discuss all these matters. > > I would like to be a member of that group. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, than serving people ... > > Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and filthy market place. > > Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > > > > PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > > to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > > lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > > not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > > senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > > school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > > > > Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > > themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > > on other members and commentiing ironically and > > with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > > pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > > to do this. At least the members in question, me > > and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > > question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > > natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > > > > If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > > and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > > on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > > behaviour ? > > > > A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > > coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > > 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > > taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > > behaviour here ? > > > > Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > > eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > > view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > > made in this Forum ? > > for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > > indulge in senseless rattling > > or for those who are periodically rattling ? > > > > > > some are very ready and eager to comment as like > > GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > > Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > > Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > > to use that English too > > here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > > here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > > demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > > between members, which if one visits other Forums > > he will find there too periodically. > > In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > > partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > > noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > > strange about that. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Jagdish ji, Only responding to the part where I was directly referred and not tangentially and implicitly, as I have been alerted to by this new cluster of RR this, RR that kind of mails which are a waste of time ;- ) This has come up again and again! If you (or anyone) find my mails so objectionable as to give you a rash and rouse your gall (pitta), then the remedy is simple. Just stop reading emails from me :-) By the way, nearly all I write is based on what I believe in, have experienced at some level and is practical stuff. There is nothing 'spiritual' about it. Human being is afterall a spirit that is having an earthly experience! As long as even one person wants to read what I write, I shall continue to write. If it bothers anyone, they can stop reading. It is not as if I write so well or so irresistably that even those who hate my form or content of writing cannot discipline themselves and skip all messages by Rohiniranjan. It is very easy, I have done it often, here and elsewhere. RR , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > Regarding "spritual" mails from Rohini Ranjan Ji, I seriously feel they are so many in the group. Rest is upto you and RR Ji.... > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. > > Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 > > > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > Prafulla Bhai, > > > > No offence to any one. > > I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, > > without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. > > But contnious puns is not in good line. > > Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. > > A good judge and his judgement would always be > > respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. > > > > I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are > > doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, > > about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. > > > > But i appreciate your defence. > > > > regards, > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >> > >> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > > astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > > sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any > > responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those > > readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are > > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, > > than serving people ... > >> > >> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > > forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's > > forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > > filthy market place. > >> > >> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any > > forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > > something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > > getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > >> ************************************************ > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > >>> > >>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > >>> > >>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > >>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > >>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > >>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > >>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > >>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > >>> > >>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > >>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > >>> on other members and commentiing ironically and > >>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > >>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > >>> to do this. At least the members in question, me > >>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > >>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > >>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > >>> > >>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > >>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > >>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > >>> behaviour ? > >>> > >>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > >>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > >>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > >>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > >>> behaviour here ? > >>> > >>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > >>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > >>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > >>> made in this Forum ? > >>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > >>> indulge in senseless rattling > >>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? > >>> > >>> > >>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like > >>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > >>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > >>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > >>> to use that English too > >>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > >>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > >>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > >>> between members, which if one visits other Forums > >>> he will find there too periodically. > >>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > >>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > >>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > >>> strange about that. > >>> > >>> > >>> Bhaskar. > >> > > ________ > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Amen! Peace is just a mouse-skip away, as I often remind readers! Be strong, and skip that message that you know is going to irritate you, for whatever perceived reason you have ;-) RR , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Sorry Jagdish ji, this note is specific for you. > > > There is nothing like A vs B; we all are sharing opinions and understanbly freely. Yes, personal comments do hurt. and it hurts more, when generalized comments are perceived / reacted as personal ones. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > > > > > > upaoakcrest > > Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:49:59 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > "Bhaskar Ji Vs. Prafulla Gang Ji" > > > > Cool !!!!! > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Wonderful !! So, we keep the forum for discussions and knowledge / > > experience sharing; and can have seperate dedicated area for chart > > readings. > > > > That is what exactly, I could understand from Ranjan ji's mail- a > > seperate section for both the areas. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And > > that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that > > is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of > > fulfilling those expectations. > > ************************************************ > > > >> > >> bhaskar_jyotish > >> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:24:55 -0000 > >> > >> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > >> > >> Dear Prafullaji, > >> > >> Every word agreed. I am ready to second any suggestion to ban all > >> natives coming here for chart reading. This Forum should be strictly > >> for jyotish reading. I too had entered the Forum for that only,but > >> find that is less, and enquiries are more. > >> Yes students would risk lives and suggest wrong decesions to > >> native by making wrong predictions and remedies, which is not > >> good. That area should be left for experts only. > >> > >> regards, > >> Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >>> > >>> What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - > >> who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. > >>> > >>> Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for > >> chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around > >> jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated > >> section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can > >> continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture > >> predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. > >>> > >>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>> > >>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > >> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > >> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > >> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > >>> ************************************************ > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 > >>>> > >>>> Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > >>>> > >>>> Prafulla Bhai, > >>>> > >>>> No offence to any one. > >>>> I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, > >>>> without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. > >>>> But contnious puns is not in good line. > >>>> Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. > >>>> A good judge and his judgement would always be > >>>> respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. > >>>> > >>>> I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are > >>>> doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, > >>>> about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. > >>>> > >>>> But i appreciate your defence. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >>>>> > >>>>> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > >>>> astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > >>>> sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without > >> any > >>>> responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of > >> those > >>>> readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who > >> are > >>>> predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming > >> more, > >>>> than serving people ... > >>>>> > >>>>> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > >>>> forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not > >> querent's > >>>> forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > >>>> filthy market place. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to > >> any > >>>> forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > >>>> something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > >>>> getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>> > >>>>> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > >>>> instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > >>>> expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > >>>> which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > >>>>> ************************************************ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > >>>>>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > >>>>>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > >>>>>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > >>>>>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > >>>>>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > >>>>>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > >>>>>> on other members and commentiing ironically and > >>>>>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > >>>>>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > >>>>>> to do this. At least the members in question, me > >>>>>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > >>>>>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > >>>>>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > >>>>>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > >>>>>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > >>>>>> behaviour ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > >>>>>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > >>>>>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > >>>>>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > >>>>>> behaviour here ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > >>>>>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > >>>>>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > >>>>>> made in this Forum ? > >>>>>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > >>>>>> indulge in senseless rattling > >>>>>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like > >>>>>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > >>>>>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > >>>>>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > >>>>>> to use that English too > >>>>>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > >>>>>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > >>>>>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > >>>>>> between members, which if one visits other Forums > >>>>>> he will find there too periodically. > >>>>>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > >>>>>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > >>>>>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > >>>>>> strange about that. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>> > >>> ________ > >>> GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos > >> and music online! > >>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 :-) Best wishes Jagdish crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jagdish ji, Only responding to the part where I was directly referred and not tangentially and implicitly, as I have been alerted to by this new cluster of RR this, RR that kind of mails which are a waste of time ;- ) This has come up again and again! If you (or anyone) find my mails so objectionable as to give you a rash and rouse your gall (pitta), then the remedy is simple. Just stop reading emails from me :-) By the way, nearly all I write is based on what I believe in, have experienced at some level and is practical stuff. There is nothing 'spiritual' about it. Human being is afterall a spirit that is having an earthly experience! As long as even one person wants to read what I write, I shall continue to write. If it bothers anyone, they can stop reading. It is not as if I write so well or so irresistably that even those who hate my form or content of writing cannot discipline themselves and skip all messages by Rohiniranjan. It is very easy, I have done it often, here and elsewhere. RR , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > Regarding "spritual" mails from Rohini Ranjan Ji, I seriously feel they are so many in the group. Rest is upto you and RR Ji.... > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. > > Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > ************************************************ > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 > > > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > Prafulla Bhai, > > > > No offence to any one. > > I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, > > without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. > > But contnious puns is not in good line. > > Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. > > A good judge and his judgement would always be > > respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. > > > > I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are > > doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, > > about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. > > > > But i appreciate your defence. > > > > regards, > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >> > >> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > > astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > > sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without any > > responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of those > > readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who are > > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming more, > > than serving people ... > >> > >> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > > forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not querent's > > forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > > filthy market place. > >> > >> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to any > > forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > > something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > > getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > >> ************************************************ > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > >>> > >>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > >>> > >>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > >>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > >>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > >>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > >>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > >>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > >>> > >>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > >>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > >>> on other members and commentiing ironically and > >>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > >>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > >>> to do this. At least the members in question, me > >>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > >>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > >>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > >>> > >>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > >>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > >>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > >>> behaviour ? > >>> > >>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > >>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > >>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > >>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > >>> behaviour here ? > >>> > >>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > >>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > >>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > >>> made in this Forum ? > >>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > >>> indulge in senseless rattling > >>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? > >>> > >>> > >>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like > >>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > >>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > >>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > >>> to use that English too > >>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > >>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > >>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > >>> between members, which if one visits other Forums > >>> he will find there too periodically. > >>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > >>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > >>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > >>> strange about that. > >>> > >>> > >>> Bhaskar. > >> > > ________ > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 May your wish become a certainty! ;-) RR , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > :-) > > Best wishes > > Jagdish > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > Jagdish ji, > > Only responding to the part where I was directly referred and not > tangentially and implicitly, as I have been alerted to by this new > cluster of RR this, RR that kind of mails which are a waste of time ;- > ) > > This has come up again and again! If you (or anyone) find my mails so > objectionable as to give you a rash and rouse your gall (pitta), then > the remedy is simple. Just stop reading emails from me :-) > > By the way, nearly all I write is based on what I believe in, have > experienced at some level and is practical stuff. There is > nothing 'spiritual' about it. Human being is afterall a spirit that > is having an earthly experience! > > As long as even one person wants to read what I write, I shall > continue to write. If it bothers anyone, they can stop reading. > > It is not as if I write so well or so irresistably that even those > who hate my form or content of writing cannot discipline themselves > and skip all messages by Rohiniranjan. > > It is very easy, I have done it often, here and elsewhere. > > RR > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > Regarding "spritual" mails from Rohini Ranjan Ji, I seriously > feel they are so many in the group. Rest is upto you and RR Ji.... > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > What is wrong - if querent's reply driven area left for people - > who want to reply; and rest of the jyotish discussions - seperately. > > > > Why do not we accept the "facts", that - forum is never meant for > chart readings. It is primarily the knowledge sharing forum around > jyotish. This chart readings can always have seperate dedicated > section to be answered by "experts" and jyotish discussions can > continue amongst "students". BTW, "students' must not venture > predicting / suggesting remedies, risking life of querents. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:03:22 -0000 > > > > > > Re: PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > > > > > Prafulla Bhai, > > > > > > No offence to any one. > > > I have let many such comments pass, in the past too, > > > without stepping on the shoes of the gentlemen. > > > But contnious puns is not in good line. > > > Also prejudiced suggestions can be made out. > > > A good judge and his judgement would always be > > > respected and adhered to, but not biased remarks or jusdgement. > > > > > > I am soryy i never meant only those who are predicting are > > > doing good service, those who talk about jyotish/discuss, > > > about the subject too are doing good service.,in my views. > > > > > > But i appreciate your defence. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Dear Bhaskar ji, > > >> > > >> I do not agree with you. You mean to say that - only those > > > astrologers, who are predicting - are doing a great service.. I am > > > sorry for your wrong notions..and the blanket quick fix, without > any > > > responsibilities..are more harmful. What is accountability of > those > > > readings. What is the credibility test for the astrologers, who > are > > > predicting or suggesting quick fix remedies !! They are harming > more, > > > than serving people ... > > >> > > >> Some of your comments of yours, are extremely unwarranted. This > > > forum is strictly meant for jyotish discussions. It is not > querent's > > > forum and unfortunately, vested interests have made it a dirty and > > > filthy market place. > > >> > > >> Ranjan ji is great jyotish contributor and his contribution to > any > > > forum - now or in past, can not be measured. if he has suggested > > > something, we must take that as guidance and must feel lucky for > > > getting sound and unprejudiced advise. > > >> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > > >> > > >> It is easy to change your expectations. You can do it in an > > > instant. And that can be a problem. Too often, we lower our > > > expectations because that is easier than overcoming the obstacles > > > which stand in the way of fulfilling those expectations. > > >> ************************************************ > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > > >>> Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:38:14 -0000 > > >>> > > >>> PEOPLE SITTING ON THE SHORES > > >>> > > >>> Again people sitting at shore advising how to swim., > > >>> to a life guard in charge of saving drowning > > >>> lives in turbulent waters, and ferocious waves, > > >>> not a single worthwhile post coming from them, all > > >>> senseless literal chatter, which any matric pass in > > >>> school can indulge in. Waste of space on the Forum. > > >>> > > >>> Why cant they do some work which will benefit either > > >>> themselves or other members here.Only passing remark > > >>> on other members and commentiing ironically and > > >>> with shades of sadism, seated on a high self-made > > >>> pedestal meant for divines, what right have they got > > >>> to do this. At least the members in question, me > > >>> and Mr.A....... whatever may be our brawl in > > >>> question, i respect him for his efforts in answering > > >>> natives,but what about these smart and wise ones ? > > >>> > > >>> If a mother reprimands her child ten times in a day > > >>> and then again calles him near ten times and kisses > > >>> on his cheeks, you call this behaviour as hospital > > >>> behaviour ? > > >>> > > >>> A wife and husband arguing 2 times in a day and again > > >>> coming back to normal, we call that without maturity ? > > >>> 2 brothers fighting in office/home and one of them > > >>> taking a step forward and reconciling, any abnormal > > >>> behaviour here ? > > >>> > > >>> Beauty lies in the eyes if the beholder. A jaundiced > > >>> eyes, and mentality would only give a pathetic > > >>> view to the observer.For whom should a partition be > > >>> made in this Forum ? > > >>> for the people who 100% times and 100% of the times > > >>> indulge in senseless rattling > > >>> or for those who are periodically rattling ? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> some are very ready and eager to comment as like > > >>> GodFathers . I have also read Tennyson, Browning, > > >>> Shelley,Cummings,Robert frost,Edgar Allen,Dickenson, > > >>> Wordsworth,Dickens,Emily and many others., and know > > >>> to use that English too > > >>> here in the Forum, but do not, because we are > > >>> here for the purpose of Jyotish,and for that i would > > >>> demand a seperate partition, and not for scuffles > > >>> between members, which if one visits other Forums > > >>> he will find there too periodically. > > >>> In other words for every vessel in the kitchen we need > > >>> partitions ? Its not possible. there has to be some > > >>> noise where there are vessels kept together. Nothing > > >>> strange about that. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >> > > > > ________ > > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos > and music online! > > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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