Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Teaching children to read and write, understand grammar and verbs and nouns, not a task for rishis. That only a mother can do.No wonder, men find it easier to turn to Godmenship. A woman , on the other hand, in the form of a mother teaching to walk, talk, read.....is already a Godwoman. , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Simply stated, I do not think that Rishis wrote out Jyotish in or out > of fear! They did not write it for their own sake either! Or they > would have spent more time on pravrajyaa yogas, or devaprapti yogas > and no so many thousand slokas on earning, rajyogas, marriage and > childbearing ad infinitum! Nor would they have talked about > ashtakavarga ;-) > > Just because a Ph.D. writes a children's text book or even a story > book for children, I suppose the intention is to impart and transfer > some wisdom in a simple manner to the children, and not for other > Ph.D.s to learn from, etc. > > Stated openly and absolutely non-critically! > > RR > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in@> wrote: > > > > Very well written indeed. This entire life evolves around fear! > > With thoughts so profound, Prathamesh, view astrology from another > > angle. > > Astrology is not just a future knowing tool. It began when rishis > > were not so fearful. It began as a method to understand nature and > > how nature affects human beings. It is the 'fearful' seeker of this > > age that starts converting astrology in a precision tool which > should > > be able to pinpoint each event exactly. > > When religion, philosophy, science all are still searching for a > > theory of everything how can astrology in itself give the answer? > > And then we particularly in Jyotish say...all that had to be known > > about Jyotish was done by our ancient seers, they had all answers, > so > > follow them literally or perish...the fear again! > > Jyotish should also be a continuously evolving vidya and it is. > > Itshould be there to guide , it cannot give the answers in > isolation. > > What every man/ woman needs to do in terms of efforts, > decisionmaking > > cannot be replaced by merely jyotish. > > > > A chart, has so many potentialities and possibilities...well we > cant > > discuss it here for you said, no reading, so whats your mail, will > > mail it you seperately. > > regards > > > > rishi > > > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir and Divya Ji, > > > > > > Everyhouse in the horoscope belongs to 'fear." Fear of not > > getting respect, not having money, not having brothers, not having > > love of mother, not having kids, marriage, death, GOD, recognition, > > income and Moksha. > > > > > > > > > Indeed whole astrology is generated by some very "fearful" > rishi > > and being continued by some very fearful people like me and others > > present in the group. > > > > > > Otherwise whats the need of knowing the future ? Why cant a > human > > being accept whatever is given by GOD ? > > > > > > Howcome "Moha" leads to loss of courage. Many people wants to > be > > rich and famous. Its moha. To attain their goals they show courage. > > Some people get success and some dont. So "moha" is a catalytic > agent > > for having courage. > > > > > > 3rd lord and 12th lord can lead to fearfulness ? How ? Any > chart > > showing that ? > > > > > > I would really like to have chart showing this. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Jagdish > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > Kumar ji, > > > > > > Your kindness overestimates this tiny ant, Sir :-) > > > > > > What more could I say that would really be better than what > > > scriptures have said. > > > > > > Fear is loss of courage. Courage is seen from 3rd house. The > house > > > that is 12th therefrom is 2nd. 2nd is about accumulatables, > > > acquisitions, holdings. Moha in other words, desires, attachments > > and > > > possessions that may lead to loss of courage (though > paradoxically, > > > they are also acquired at times by overcoming fear!). > > > > > > Association of 3rd and 12th may lead to fearfulness. However, if > > > strong planets or benefics are involved, the nature of fear may > > > change. > > > > > > Mars indicates bravery and courage and if afflicted may give a > > > fearful tendency. Lunar nodes have been associated with phobias > > > (extreme, paralyzing fear) and if afflicted and ssociated > adversely > > > with indicators of courage and bravery may induce fear. > > > > > > However, I do not wish someone to generalize this and then try to > > > apply in a given chart and without taking other factors into > > > consideration dismiss same. Have seen that happen often :-) hence > > > must sound the caution! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Divya, > > > > > > > > From what little i can gather from our Purana, Itihasas, > > > Upanishads the 2 most talked about issues are fear and favor. > when > > > we over come these, we are a superior being than we r now. > > > > > > > > all the rakshasas who did severe penance got great boons close > > > to imortality, invincibity and yet had a loophole in the boons > > > still suffered from it at ttimes > > > > > > > > the greatest loophole being their ego once it out grew them > boons > > > the end was apparent-Vinasha kale vipreetha buddhi. > > > > > > > > say Narakusara, ravana, shisupala, etc ravana is best > > > illustrated when he is asked by Rama a mere mortal to come next > day > > > when his charriotr was killed, and his charriot broken and ravans > > > weapons exhausted a mere mortal gives me a reprive what an > > > inviincible warrior Iam this let him down most next day. > > > > > > > > AS I KNOW 3RD house and all Upachaya houses deal with this > acpet > > > u said and above all the others too Lagna, 4th 10th in terms of > > > personality, strenght of mind, character, and succes in efforts. > > > > upachaya i said y'day in a mail u can add them too. > > > > > > > > rest sure Sri RR ji will add in better style, content than mine > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > It is an interesting thought..... > > > > > > > > >And perhaps through that exercise we go beyond it and face > > > other bigger fears that keep growing over time, over lifetimes? > > > > > > > > Maybe, since fear is for the future, we have to finally learn > > > to live in the present moment. And accept whatever happens. And > be > > > one with God's will. Seems like all these things are > > related ....... > > > for achieving that perfect state of equilibrium where nothing > > > affects us. > > > > > > > > Also I feel that whatever we fear, comes to us.....whether we > > > want to face it or not. > > > > > > > > I would request you to add how we should see in a chart, what a > > > person fears What is the definition of fear in Jyotish terms. Is > it > > > a complexity of mind? Is it lack of confidence? Does it arise > from > > > some unfulfilled desire? Which planets should we associate with > it? > > > > > > > > Lots of questions... ... > > > > Do reply. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Divya > > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > > > > group but > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or > phone. > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay Pal ID also > > > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@ > > > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > > > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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