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Dear arjun

there was an article in reader digest in the 80's when Sri Satya sai gave someone a expensive swiss watch which he manifested from thinn air for the onlookers

but the investigation they did revealed that at the same moment the watch was given it was purchased by one Mr Satyanarayana. the original name of satya sai Baba [had bought it with that seriel no]

Baba ha quite oftensaid what u get from me is not Maya or gift but what u r supposed to get at this moment and its from ur money only [ones u lost sometime back or will loose sometime later or earn later whatever.]

so this incident show the astral movement of him and brigning a watch for this person.

i've seen him give such things to other in person.

Adi shankara is supposed to have travelled from Kanya kumari to kashmir 80 times and for a man who after he took sanyas at age of 8 and lvie 24 yrs max after it, how else than astral did he travel and his body itself being left idle and soul entering a Vangla king [bengal king to experience samsara jivana is also proof of out of th ebody experience and back to body too. when there were not super sonic ari crafts or rockets to do so he has travelled.

these are part of the Ashtana yoga the 7 th level gives u what satya sai and other Hooly men do, some do selectively and others do for a casue and help people Baba does to help people only.

so he has travelled on the astral plan b

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear raghuji

that sloka means as follows:

the summary of all the eighteen puranas have been succinctly told by

sage vyasa in two sentences viz. doing good to others is merit and

doing harm to others is sin.

the human physionomy consists of more visible body, dormant mind and

invisible soul.

ordinary layman or woman is more a slave to the body and the

native's mind is controlled by the body which is against the

nature. you see a tasty food and water comes in your mouth and you

mouth craves and pines for that food. similarly you see an

attractive person and your eyes are glued to her and your head

automatically turns the way that person goes. you walk a mile and

your legs dictate you that they cant walk and like a slave you stop

and immediately hire a rickshaw, auto or board a bus. see naga

sadhus who walk naked on snowy ice in minus twenty degrees and have

bath in ice cold waters having sub zero temperatures. there are so

many buddhish monks who do kailash parvat parikrama by shastanga

namaskar in sub zero temperatures even while the few pilgrims sent

by indian government in batches sit atop yaks and complain of ice

cold weather and ill health and inhospitable terrain. most sages

who meditate have sacrificed comforts for the body and lived without

food and water and without any cosmetics or haircut or shaving.

they simply forgot that a body exist. all gods, sages, kings,

demons have done thousands of years in meditation controlling their

bodies. that is called control over body. only one in a crore

achieves control over body. the basic elementary step to control

body is to do pranayama as best preached by baba ramdevji or

haridwar and i recommend his video cd of pranayama as a must for

every household.

only those fortunate few who have control over their bodies can

attempt to control their minds. the mind can travel faster than

light and this is most difficult even to realised people as the maya

keep haunting them all the time. out of those who achieved control

over their bodies, only 1% will be successful in controlling their

mind. in other words your mind cease to dictate you or direct you

or advise you.

out of those rarest few who controlled their minds, only 1% of them

can align with the soul (atma)or their self which is called self

realisation. this soul itself is god and is also called realisation

and all these god realised people are gods. they can do astral

travel like you heard god is ver pervading and ever permeating and

they are omnipresent and have the capacity to give darshan to any of

their disciples or followers anywhere in the world. satya saibaba

of puttaparti is said to have shown these miracles which is why many

treat him like god.

i too went to the level of god realisation but came back to mind

realisation level as my personal choice to serve the suffering

humans. when a realised person demonstrates his desires he is

branded bad because he is behaving like an ordinary human. when a

realised person wears good clothes and eats good food, then also he

is branded bad because he is demonstrating the natural instincts of

an ordinary human. simply put, if a ordinary human does these petty

things under maya, it is natural. if a realised person does, it

means he lost his realisation and is now an ordinary normal human

being. jesus when he was being nailed, he did not behave like an

ordinary human being and DEMONSTRATED LIKE A TRUE GOD (GOD REALISED

PERSON).

a god realised person has no desires and whatever he says for others

it happens just like the voice of god. i have seen many of these

miracles myself.

the path of realisation is loosely split into two viz. pravritti and

nivritti. in nivritti he person enjoys eternal bliss all alone in

reclusive seclusion and is least bothered about the world and the

matter and the materials and also the sentient beings including

humans. in pravritti, the realised person strives to serve the god

by seeing god in the souls of all human beings. vivekananda said

manav seva is equal to madhav seva. seva is the highest testimony

of realisation.

with best wishes

pandit arjun

, "raghuvenkataj"

<raghuvenkataj wrote:

>

> Hi Arjunji,

>

> Please let us know the meaning of the below sanskrit verse..

>

> ashtadasa puraneshu vyasasya vachana dvayam; paropakaraya

> punyaya paapaya parapeedanam

>

>

> Also..pls let me know the distinction between body, mind and

soul..i

> am more interested between mind and soul.

>

> Which is influenced by Maya..is it body or mind or soul..

>

> Does soul experience happiness or peace etc.,

>

> Whatever has been explained below is it to related transcendental

> meditation..

>

> The below is something different..thought you may have an idea..

>

> Does keeping a shank in pooja room will increase prosperity..and

> keep the dark things away

>

> Regards,

> Raghu.

>

>

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > namaste john

> >

> > we have reached a stage where we shall not speak about ourselves

> as

> > we are not living for ourselves.

> >

> > hence i wish to answer all your queries with a view to clarify

> your

> > doubts.

> >

> > the dreams are realted to mind and body. the dreams of

> experienced

> > by the mind and enjoyed by the body.

> >

> > in astral travel, it is no hallucination or dream. the SOUL

> > literally travels where your mind suggests. so mostly it is

soul

> > and mind. in other words, you have conquered your body and have

> > aligned your mind and soul so that the soul can travel in

> synchrony

> > with what your mind suggests. this alignment of body, mind and

> soul

> > itself is called SELF REALISATION.

> >

> > my appreciation of you for having achieved this level which only

> one

> > in a crore achieves. do improve further and you will see more

> > miracles. however, if you develop interest or focus on your

body

> > and mind, then you lose these skills. i too had this erratic

> > rollercoaster ride whenever the maya tempts you to have good

food,

> > good clothes and make you believe that they give you happiness.

> so

> > this maya is something which keeps forming like a cobweb even if

> you

> > remove it once. so if these obstacles keep appearing from

nowhere

> > in your path of realisation, dont feel that you are not realised

> but

> > feel that this maya works like this only and it is up to you not

> to

> > fall into it.

> >

> > by the way, the best way to proceed further is to MAKE AS MANY

> OTHER

> > SOULS AS HAPPY so that the larger soul or god combined of

several

> > souls start dwelling in you only to help you make happy even

> higher

> > number of people. sage vyasa summed up all 18 puranas in one

> > sentence: ashtadasa puraneshu vyasasya vachana dvayam;

> paropakaraya

> > punyaya paapaya parapeedanam.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > arjun

> >

> > , "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Pandit Arjuna,

> > >

> > > Your experiences are very interesting, particularly those

about

> > > astral travel and creating maya. Did these experiences come on

> > > spontaneously or did someone teach you how to perform them at

> will?

> > >

> > > When I started a meditation practice many years ago, I

> experienced

> > > something very unusual which I consider to be an equivalent to

> one

> > of

> > > the siddhis mentioned by Patanjali, author of the Yoga

Sutras.

> > One

> > > evening, after my meditation, my mind spontaneously went into

a

> > > trance or samadhi. My own consciousness felt like it was

flying

> > > through an enclosed zone. I saw pink rods and cones and

slowly

> > > passed through them as if in a flying machine.

> > >

> > > After this experience, I ended up in a lucid dream in which I

> was

> > in

> > > a place with a huge beautiful mansion. As you can imagine, I

> was

> > > scared to death as to what I was experiencing.

> > >

> > > In the following days after this episode, I concluded that

> somehow

> > I

> > > was able to see the inner workings of my retina. The retina

> does

> > > have rods and cones which process light to the brain. So,

this

> > > experience was equivalent to being able to become as small as

an

> > > atom, a siddhi mentioned by Patanjali.

> > >

> > > The lucid dream episode may have been equivalent to astral

> travel

> > > which you mentioned. In logical terms, I have concluded that

> > lucid

> > > dreams are experienced from time to time because of meditation

> > > practice.

> > >

> > > Nonetheless, I still ponder: where do these dreams come from?

> Do

> > > they represent other worlds that the mind visits through

astral

> > > travel? Or do they represent traces of past life karma or

even

> > > future life experiences?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > John R.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > namaste john

> > > >

> > > > as you observed rightly, from my childhood i was into

exorcism

> > and

> > > > in my teenage itself learnt palmistry and facereading but

not

> > > > astrology. from the year 2000 onwards i entered into tantra

> and

> > > > developed clairvoyance, astral travel and specialised in

> > distance

> > > > healing. i also did experimental creation of maya (non

> existing

> > > > persons) to few members of this group freely just to confirm

> > that

> > > > such miracles do happen. i converted this healing

positively

> > into

> > > > absorbing the chronic diseases of the suffering and also for

> > > driving

> > > > off evils from the possessed. ALL THIS WAS DELOPED AND MADE

> > > > POSSIBLE ONLY BECAUSE OF DEDICATED MEDITATION DONE ALL DAY

> LONG

> > IN

> > > > RECLUSIVE SECLUSION FOR FEW YEARS.

> > > >

> > > > however, i started walking backwards towards astrology

because

> > it

> > > > has more validation and acceptance than clairvoyance. in my

> > intial

> > > > days of predictions, i used to write the horoscope of a

person

> > > > before he visits me and also write the problem he is

suffering

> > but

> > > > realised am losing my energy in doing so. also, to convince

> the

> > > > natives and substantiate with astrological corroboration, i

> > learnt

> > > > bhrigu samhita, ravana samhita lalkitab and various other

> > books.

> > > > even though till date i have not touched, seen or read BPHS

> even

> > > > once, i know most of its contents through clairvoyance.

> > > >

> > > > anyway, am writing all this only to mention that mere

> astrology

> > is

> > > > not sufficient and divine intution or clairvoyance is what

all

> > > sages

> > > > in the vedic era used to foretell.

> > > >

> > > > as you might have read my various posts i have been

repeatedly

> > > > telling in all groups that other than astrology, there are

> three

> > > > more things which can change the future and hence many a

time

> an

> > > > astrologer's predictions based purely on astrology do not

come

> > true.

> > > >

> > > > as you rightly observed, this great holy land india has so

> many

> > > > people like KNRao's mother who have the gift of god in

telling

> > > > future events without any knowledge of astrology.

> > > >

> > > > as regards your comparing my skills with this laday, i

> consider

> > > > myself at the student level till my last breath but yes,

> > definitely

> > > > i would not hesitate to lose my life in saving someone

else's

> > life.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > >

> > > > , "John" <jr_esq@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Pandit Arjuna,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm curious about the clairvoyance that you are

> experiencing.

> > > Did

> > > > > you always have this gift when you were young? Or, did

this

> > skill

> > > > > develop through a certain practice as an adult?

> > > > >

> > > > > It appears to me that you don't need to use jyotish if you

> > have

> > > > such

> > > > > clairvoyance.

> > > > >

> > > > > KN Rao mentioned in the past that his mother used jyotish

> > early

> > > in

> > > > > her life for predictions. However, as she grew older and

> > became

> > > > > wiser, she developed a skill of looking at the person's

face

> > or

> > > > > physical makeup to make predictions. As such, she did not

> use

> > > > > jyotish anymore for determining a person's future. Is

your

> > > > > clairvoyance equivalent to this?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > John R.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear friend

> > > > > >

> > > > > > unfortunately i could see (with claivoyance and not

based

> on

> > > > > > astrology) an evil possession in the child which you may

> get

> > > > > > exorcised after which the baby would be hale and

hearty.

> > > paying

> > > > a

> > > > > > visit to chota nikkara bhagawati mandir in kerala on a

> > friday

> > > > and

> > > > > > taking the blessings there besides having holy water

from

> > that

> > > > > > temple is the best remedy. if your brother is in

> hyderabad,

> > > > they

> > > > > > may visit me and i will give the holy water and do

simple

> > > > exorcism

> > > > > > free of cost.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "ramaswamy

p.n."

> > > > > > <pnramaswamy@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pranams to all the gurus. I am a member of this group.

I

> > > > require

> > > > > > help for my brother's daughter. This child is having

> health

> > > > problem

> > > > > > since 4 / 5 months. She is unable to eat and whatever is

> > > > consumed

> > > > > > she vomits. All medical tests have been done including

CT

> > Scan.

> > > > > > Doctors say that the child has no problem.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The details of the girl is given hereunder:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DOB - 20.02.1998 time 1630 hrs - Place - Hyderabad

(AP)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Girl's father's details: DOB - 01.05.1956 TIME 0100

> HRS

> > > > (NIGHT

> > > > > > OF 30.04.1956) - Place Palakkad (Kerala)

> > > > > > > Girl's mother's details: DOB - 20.08.1962 time 2020

> hrs

> > > > Place -

> > > > > > Guntakkal (AP).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please suggest remedies as the child's parents are

> > worried.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pranams

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - pnramaswamy@

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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dear kumarji

 

instead of satyasaibaba, i prefer to openly declare that adi

shankaracharya is the best god realised person india has seen. he

averted a flood, he brought riches to poor people, he removed the

social evils (untouchability), brought peace between shivaites and

vaishnavaites, performed parakaya pravesh and so many yogic feats

which we only heard. he also established the four maths on the four

sides of the country and travelled every nook and corner of this

holy land spreading the light of knoweldge. he is the epitome of

spiritual knowledge and is reverred by one and all. the first and

only sanskrit film made in the country is on adi shankara only and

thanks to the government, doordarshan beamed it freely several times.

 

i have a photo of him in my office and i daily garland him as a mark

of respect for my first guru, as from childhood, reading his stories

only i was inclined to spirituality.

 

there shall be no second word from any second person in unanimously

praising adi shankara as the tallest spiritual person of recent

india.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear arjun

>

> there was an article in reader digest in the 80's when Sri Satya

sai gave someone a expensive swiss watch which he manifested from

thinn air for the onlookers

>

> but the investigation they did revealed that at the same moment

the watch was given it was purchased by one Mr Satyanarayana. the

original name of satya sai Baba [had bought it with that seriel no]

>

> Baba ha quite oftensaid what u get from me is not Maya or gift

but what u r supposed to get at this moment and its from ur money

only [ones u lost sometime back or will loose sometime later or

earn later whatever.]

>

> so this incident show the astral movement of him and brigning a

watch for this person.

> i've seen him give such things to other in person.

>

> Adi shankara is supposed to have travelled from Kanya kumari to

kashmir 80 times and for a man who after he took sanyas at age of 8

and lvie 24 yrs max after it, how else than astral did he travel

and his body itself being left idle and soul entering a Vangla king

[bengal king to experience samsara jivana is also proof of out of

th ebody experience and back to body too. when there were not super

sonic ari crafts or rockets to do so he has travelled.

>

> these are part of the Ashtana yoga the 7 th level gives u what

satya sai and other Hooly men do, some do selectively and others

do for a casue and help people Baba does to help people only.

>

>

>

>

> so he has travelled on the astral plan b

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

wrote: dear raghuji

>

> that sloka means as follows:

>

> the summary of all the eighteen puranas have been succinctly

told by

> sage vyasa in two sentences viz. doing good to others is merit

and

> doing harm to others is sin.

>

> the human physionomy consists of more visible body, dormant mind

and

> invisible soul.

>

> ordinary layman or woman is more a slave to the body and the

> native's mind is controlled by the body which is against the

> nature. you see a tasty food and water comes in your mouth and

you

> mouth craves and pines for that food. similarly you see an

> attractive person and your eyes are glued to her and your head

> automatically turns the way that person goes. you walk a mile

and

> your legs dictate you that they cant walk and like a slave you

stop

> and immediately hire a rickshaw, auto or board a bus. see naga

> sadhus who walk naked on snowy ice in minus twenty degrees and

have

> bath in ice cold waters having sub zero temperatures. there are

so

> many buddhish monks who do kailash parvat parikrama by shastanga

> namaskar in sub zero temperatures even while the few pilgrims

sent

> by indian government in batches sit atop yaks and complain of

ice

> cold weather and ill health and inhospitable terrain. most

sages

> who meditate have sacrificed comforts for the body and lived

without

> food and water and without any cosmetics or haircut or shaving.

> they simply forgot that a body exist. all gods, sages, kings,

> demons have done thousands of years in meditation controlling

their

> bodies. that is called control over body. only one in a crore

> achieves control over body. the basic elementary step to

control

> body is to do pranayama as best preached by baba ramdevji or

> haridwar and i recommend his video cd of pranayama as a must for

> every household.

>

> only those fortunate few who have control over their bodies can

> attempt to control their minds. the mind can travel faster than

> light and this is most difficult even to realised people as the

maya

> keep haunting them all the time. out of those who achieved

control

> over their bodies, only 1% will be successful in controlling

their

> mind. in other words your mind cease to dictate you or direct

you

> or advise you.

>

> out of those rarest few who controlled their minds, only 1% of

them

> can align with the soul (atma)or their self which is called self

> realisation. this soul itself is god and is also called

realisation

> and all these god realised people are gods. they can do astral

> travel like you heard god is ver pervading and ever permeating

and

> they are omnipresent and have the capacity to give darshan to

any of

> their disciples or followers anywhere in the world. satya

saibaba

> of puttaparti is said to have shown these miracles which is why

many

> treat him like god.

>

> i too went to the level of god realisation but came back to mind

> realisation level as my personal choice to serve the suffering

> humans. when a realised person demonstrates his desires he is

> branded bad because he is behaving like an ordinary human. when

a

> realised person wears good clothes and eats good food, then also

he

> is branded bad because he is demonstrating the natural instincts

of

> an ordinary human. simply put, if a ordinary human does these

petty

> things under maya, it is natural. if a realised person does, it

> means he lost his realisation and is now an ordinary normal

human

> being. jesus when he was being nailed, he did not behave like

an

> ordinary human being and DEMONSTRATED LIKE A TRUE GOD (GOD

REALISED

> PERSON).

>

> a god realised person has no desires and whatever he says for

others

> it happens just like the voice of god. i have seen many of

these

> miracles myself.

>

> the path of realisation is loosely split into two viz. pravritti

and

> nivritti. in nivritti he person enjoys eternal bliss all alone

in

> reclusive seclusion and is least bothered about the world and

the

> matter and the materials and also the sentient beings including

> humans. in pravritti, the realised person strives to serve the

god

> by seeing god in the souls of all human beings. vivekananda

said

> manav seva is equal to madhav seva. seva is the highest

testimony

> of realisation.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

> , "raghuvenkataj"

> <raghuvenkataj@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Arjunji,

> >

> > Please let us know the meaning of the below sanskrit verse..

> >

> > ashtadasa puraneshu vyasasya vachana dvayam; paropakaraya

> > punyaya paapaya parapeedanam

> >

> >

> > Also..pls let me know the distinction between body, mind and

> soul..i

> > am more interested between mind and soul.

> >

> > Which is influenced by Maya..is it body or mind or soul..

> >

> > Does soul experience happiness or peace etc.,

> >

> > Whatever has been explained below is it to related

transcendental

> > meditation..

> >

> > The below is something different..thought you may have an

idea..

> >

> > Does keeping a shank in pooja room will increase

prosperity..and

> > keep the dark things away

> >

> > Regards,

> > Raghu.

> >

> >

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > namaste john

> > >

> > > we have reached a stage where we shall not speak about

ourselves

> > as

> > > we are not living for ourselves.

> > >

> > > hence i wish to answer all your queries with a view to

clarify

> > your

> > > doubts.

> > >

> > > the dreams are realted to mind and body. the dreams of

> > experienced

> > > by the mind and enjoyed by the body.

> > >

> > > in astral travel, it is no hallucination or dream. the SOUL

> > > literally travels where your mind suggests. so mostly it is

> soul

> > > and mind. in other words, you have conquered your body and

have

> > > aligned your mind and soul so that the soul can travel in

> > synchrony

> > > with what your mind suggests. this alignment of body, mind

and

> > soul

> > > itself is called SELF REALISATION.

> > >

> > > my appreciation of you for having achieved this level which

only

> > one

> > > in a crore achieves. do improve further and you will see

more

> > > miracles. however, if you develop interest or focus on your

> body

> > > and mind, then you lose these skills. i too had this

erratic

> > > rollercoaster ride whenever the maya tempts you to have good

> food,

> > > good clothes and make you believe that they give you

happiness.

> > so

> > > this maya is something which keeps forming like a cobweb

even if

> > you

> > > remove it once. so if these obstacles keep appearing from

> nowhere

> > > in your path of realisation, dont feel that you are not

realised

> > but

> > > feel that this maya works like this only and it is up to you

not

> > to

> > > fall into it.

> > >

> > > by the way, the best way to proceed further is to MAKE AS

MANY

> > OTHER

> > > SOULS AS HAPPY so that the larger soul or god combined of

> several

> > > souls start dwelling in you only to help you make happy even

> > higher

> > > number of people. sage vyasa summed up all 18 puranas in

one

> > > sentence: ashtadasa puraneshu vyasasya vachana dvayam;

> > paropakaraya

> > > punyaya paapaya parapeedanam.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > arjun

> > >

> > > , "John" <jr_esq@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Pandit Arjuna,

> > > >

> > > > Your experiences are very interesting, particularly those

> about

> > > > astral travel and creating maya. Did these experiences

come on

> > > > spontaneously or did someone teach you how to perform them

at

> > will?

> > > >

> > > > When I started a meditation practice many years ago, I

> > experienced

> > > > something very unusual which I consider to be an

equivalent to

> > one

> > > of

> > > > the siddhis mentioned by Patanjali, author of the Yoga

> Sutras.

> > > One

> > > > evening, after my meditation, my mind spontaneously went

into

> a

> > > > trance or samadhi. My own consciousness felt like it was

> flying

> > > > through an enclosed zone. I saw pink rods and cones and

> slowly

> > > > passed through them as if in a flying machine.

> > > >

> > > > After this experience, I ended up in a lucid dream in

which I

> > was

> > > in

> > > > a place with a huge beautiful mansion. As you can

imagine, I

> > was

> > > > scared to death as to what I was experiencing.

> > > >

> > > > In the following days after this episode, I concluded that

> > somehow

> > > I

> > > > was able to see the inner workings of my retina. The

retina

> > does

> > > > have rods and cones which process light to the brain. So,

> this

> > > > experience was equivalent to being able to become as small

as

> an

> > > > atom, a siddhi mentioned by Patanjali.

> > > >

> > > > The lucid dream episode may have been equivalent to astral

> > travel

> > > > which you mentioned. In logical terms, I have concluded

that

> > > lucid

> > > > dreams are experienced from time to time because of

meditation

> > > > practice.

> > > >

> > > > Nonetheless, I still ponder: where do these dreams come

from?

> > Do

> > > > they represent other worlds that the mind visits through

> astral

> > > > travel? Or do they represent traces of past life karma or

> even

> > > > future life experiences?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > John R.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > namaste john

> > > > >

> > > > > as you observed rightly, from my childhood i was into

> exorcism

> > > and

> > > > > in my teenage itself learnt palmistry and facereading

but

> not

> > > > > astrology. from the year 2000 onwards i entered into

tantra

> > and

> > > > > developed clairvoyance, astral travel and specialised in

> > > distance

> > > > > healing. i also did experimental creation of maya (non

> > existing

> > > > > persons) to few members of this group freely just to

confirm

> > > that

> > > > > such miracles do happen. i converted this healing

> positively

> > > into

> > > > > absorbing the chronic diseases of the suffering and also

for

> > > > driving

> > > > > off evils from the possessed. ALL THIS WAS DELOPED AND

MADE

> > > > > POSSIBLE ONLY BECAUSE OF DEDICATED MEDITATION DONE ALL

DAY

> > LONG

> > > IN

> > > > > RECLUSIVE SECLUSION FOR FEW YEARS.

> > > > >

> > > > > however, i started walking backwards towards astrology

> because

> > > it

> > > > > has more validation and acceptance than clairvoyance.

in my

> > > intial

> > > > > days of predictions, i used to write the horoscope of a

> person

> > > > > before he visits me and also write the problem he is

> suffering

> > > but

> > > > > realised am losing my energy in doing so. also, to

convince

> > the

> > > > > natives and substantiate with astrological

corroboration, i

> > > learnt

> > > > > bhrigu samhita, ravana samhita lalkitab and various

other

> > > books.

> > > > > even though till date i have not touched, seen or read

BPHS

> > even

> > > > > once, i know most of its contents through clairvoyance.

> > > > >

> > > > > anyway, am writing all this only to mention that mere

> > astrology

> > > is

> > > > > not sufficient and divine intution or clairvoyance is

what

> all

> > > > sages

> > > > > in the vedic era used to foretell.

> > > > >

> > > > > as you might have read my various posts i have been

> repeatedly

> > > > > telling in all groups that other than astrology, there

are

> > three

> > > > > more things which can change the future and hence many a

> time

> > an

> > > > > astrologer's predictions based purely on astrology do

not

> come

> > > true.

> > > > >

> > > > > as you rightly observed, this great holy land india has

so

> > many

> > > > > people like KNRao's mother who have the gift of god in

> telling

> > > > > future events without any knowledge of astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > as regards your comparing my skills with this laday, i

> > consider

> > > > > myself at the student level till my last breath but yes,

> > > definitely

> > > > > i would not hesitate to lose my life in saving someone

> else's

> > > life.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > >

> > > > > , "John"

<jr_esq@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Pandit Arjuna,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm curious about the clairvoyance that you are

> > experiencing.

> > > > Did

> > > > > > you always have this gift when you were young? Or, did

> this

> > > skill

> > > > > > develop through a certain practice as an adult?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It appears to me that you don't need to use jyotish if

you

> > > have

> > > > > such

> > > > > > clairvoyance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KN Rao mentioned in the past that his mother used

jyotish

> > > early

> > > > in

> > > > > > her life for predictions. However, as she grew older

and

> > > became

> > > > > > wiser, she developed a skill of looking at the

person's

> face

> > > or

> > > > > > physical makeup to make predictions. As such, she did

not

> > use

> > > > > > jyotish anymore for determining a person's future. Is

> your

> > > > > > clairvoyance equivalent to this?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > John R.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

, "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear friend

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > unfortunately i could see (with claivoyance and not

> based

> > on

> > > > > > > astrology) an evil possession in the child which you

may

> > get

> > > > > > > exorcised after which the baby would be hale and

> hearty.

> > > > paying

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > visit to chota nikkara bhagawati mandir in kerala on

a

> > > friday

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > taking the blessings there besides having holy water

> from

> > > that

> > > > > > > temple is the best remedy. if your brother is in

> > hyderabad,

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > may visit me and i will give the holy water and do

> simple

> > > > > exorcism

> > > > > > > free of cost.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "ramaswamy

> p.n."

> > > > > > > <pnramaswamy@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pranams to all the gurus. I am a member of this

group.

> I

> > > > > require

> > > > > > > help for my brother's daughter. This child is having

> > health

> > > > > problem

> > > > > > > since 4 / 5 months. She is unable to eat and

whatever is

> > > > > consumed

> > > > > > > she vomits. All medical tests have been done

including

> CT

> > > Scan.

> > > > > > > Doctors say that the child has no problem.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The details of the girl is given hereunder:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DOB - 20.02.1998 time 1630 hrs - Place -

Hyderabad

> (AP)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Girl's father's details: DOB - 01.05.1956 TIME

0100

> > HRS

> > > > > (NIGHT

> > > > > > > OF 30.04.1956) - Place Palakkad (Kerala)

> > > > > > > > Girl's mother's details: DOB - 20.08.1962 time

2020

> > hrs

> > > > > Place -

> > > > > > > Guntakkal (AP).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please suggest remedies as the child's parents

are

> > > worried.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pranams

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - pnramaswamy@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

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14th Sep 2006

 

Dear brothers and sisters

 

For me Sri Sathya Sai Baba is God Incarnate in Human Form. Adi Sahnkracharya was also God Incarnate in human form but I have not seen him in this life time. I have had many wonderful personal experiences with Sri Sathya Sai Baba ji in this life time. I have been extremely inspired by the Life of these two. I have had the preivilege of doing a few Radio programs on Sri adi Shankraacharya and a many radio programs on Sri Sathya Sai Baba and a many dreams of both the Avatars.

 

God is one but we call HIM by many names.

 

Love

 

RG

 

-

panditarjun2004

Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:59 AM

Re: Help required for this child (for Pandit Arjuna) SATYA SAI and astral....

 

 

dear kumarji

 

instead of satyasaibaba, i prefer to openly declare that adi

shankaracharya is the best god realised person india has seen. he

averted a flood, he brought riches to poor people, he removed the

social evils (untouchability), brought peace between shivaites and

vaishnavaites, performed parakaya pravesh and so many yogic feats

which we only heard. he also established the four maths on the four

sides of the country and travelled every nook and corner of this

holy land spreading the light of knoweldge. he is the epitome of

spiritual knowledge and is reverred by one and all. the first and

only sanskrit film made in the country is on adi shankara only and

thanks to the government, doordarshan beamed it freely several times.

 

i have a photo of him in my office and i daily garland him as a mark

of respect for my first guru, as from childhood, reading his stories

only i was inclined to spirituality.

 

there shall be no second word from any second person in unanimously

praising adi shankara as the tallest spiritual person of recent

india.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear arjun

>

> there was an article in reader digest in the 80's when Sri Satya

sai gave someone a expensive swiss watch which he manifested from

thinn air for the onlookers

>

> but the investigation they did revealed that at the same moment

the watch was given it was purchased by one Mr Satyanarayana. the

original name of satya sai Baba [had bought it with that seriel no]

>

> Baba ha quite oftensaid what u get from me is not Maya or gift

but what u r supposed to get at this moment and its from ur money

only [ones u lost sometime back or will loose sometime later or

earn later whatever.]

>

> so this incident show the astral movement of him and brigning a

watch for this person.

> i've seen him give such things to other in person.

>

> Adi shankara is supposed to have travelled from Kanya kumari to

kashmir 80 times and for a man who after he took sanyas at age of 8

and lvie 24 yrs max after it, how else than astral did he travel

and his body itself being left idle and soul entering a Vangla king

[bengal king to experience samsara jivana is also proof of out of

th ebody experience and back to body too. when there were not super

sonic ari crafts or rockets to do so he has travelled.

>

> these are part of the Ashtana yoga the 7 th level gives u what

satya sai and other Hooly men do, some do selectively and others

do for a casue and help people Baba does to help people only.

>

>

>

>

> so he has travelled on the astral plan b

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

wrote: dear raghuji

>

> that sloka means as follows:

>

> the summary of all the eighteen puranas have been succinctly

told by

> sage vyasa in two sentences viz. doing good to others is merit

and

> doing harm to others is sin.

>

> the human physionomy consists of more visible body, dormant mind

and

> invisible soul.

>

> ordinary layman or woman is more a slave to the body and the

> native's mind is controlled by the body which is against the

> nature. you see a tasty food and water comes in your mouth and

you

> mouth craves and pines for that food. similarly you see an

> attractive person and your eyes are glued to her and your head

> automatically turns the way that person goes. you walk a mile

and

> your legs dictate you that they cant walk and like a slave you

stop

> and immediately hire a rickshaw, auto or board a bus. see naga

> sadhus who walk naked on snowy ice in minus twenty degrees and

have

> bath in ice cold waters having sub zero temperatures. there are

so

> many buddhish monks who do kailash parvat parikrama by shastanga

> namaskar in sub zero temperatures even while the few pilgrims

sent

> by indian government in batches sit atop yaks and complain of

ice

> cold weather and ill health and inhospitable terrain. most

sages

> who meditate have sacrificed comforts for the body and lived

without

> food and water and without any cosmetics or haircut or shaving.

> they simply forgot that a body exist. all gods, sages, kings,

> demons have done thousands of years in meditation controlling

their

> bodies. that is called control over body. only one in a crore

> achieves control over body. the basic elementary step to

control

> body is to do pranayama as best preached by baba ramdevji or

> haridwar and i recommend his video cd of pranayama as a must for

> every household.

>

> only those fortunate few who have control over their bodies can

> attempt to control their minds. the mind can travel faster than

> light and this is most difficult even to realised people as the

maya

> keep haunting them all the time. out of those who achieved

control

> over their bodies, only 1% will be successful in controlling

their

> mind. in other words your mind cease to dictate you or direct

you

> or advise you.

>

> out of those rarest few who controlled their minds, only 1% of

them

> can align with the soul (atma)or their self which is called self

> realisation. this soul itself is god and is also called

realisation

> and all these god realised people are gods. they can do astral

> travel like you heard god is ver pervading and ever permeating

and

> they are omnipresent and have the capacity to give darshan to

any of

> their disciples or followers anywhere in the world. satya

saibaba

> of puttaparti is said to have shown these miracles which is why

many

> treat him like god.

>

> i too went to the level of god realisation but came back to mind

> realisation level as my personal choice to serve the suffering

> humans. when a realised person demonstrates his desires he is

> branded bad because he is behaving like an ordinary human. when

a

> realised person wears good clothes and eats good food, then also

he

> is branded bad because he is demonstrating the natural instincts

of

> an ordinary human. simply put, if a ordinary human does these

petty

> things under maya, it is natural. if a realised person does, it

> means he lost his realisation and is now an ordinary normal

human

> being. jesus when he was being nailed, he did not behave like

an

> ordinary human being and DEMONSTRATED LIKE A TRUE GOD (GOD

REALISED

> PERSON).

>

> a god realised person has no desires and whatever he says for

others

> it happens just like the voice of god. i have seen many of

these

> miracles myself.

>

> the path of realisation is loosely split into two viz. pravritti

and

> nivritti. in nivritti he person enjoys eternal bliss all alone

in

> reclusive seclusion and is least bothered about the world and

the

> matter and the materials and also the sentient beings including

> humans. in pravritti, the realised person strives to serve the

god

> by seeing god in the souls of all human beings. vivekananda

said

> manav seva is equal to madhav seva. seva is the highest

testimony

> of realisation.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

> , "raghuvenkataj"

> <raghuvenkataj@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Arjunji,

> >

> > Please let us know the meaning of the below sanskrit verse..

> >

> > ashtadasa puraneshu vyasasya vachana dvayam; paropakaraya

> > punyaya paapaya parapeedanam

> >

> >

> > Also..pls let me know the distinction between body, mind and

> soul..i

> > am more interested between mind and soul.

> >

> > Which is influenced by Maya..is it body or mind or soul..

> >

> > Does soul experience happiness or peace etc.,

> >

> > Whatever has been explained below is it to related

transcendental

> > meditation..

> >

> > The below is something different..thought you may have an

idea..

> >

> > Does keeping a shank in pooja room will increase

prosperity..and

> > keep the dark things away

> >

> > Regards,

> > Raghu.

> >

> >

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > namaste john

> > >

> > > we have reached a stage where we shall not speak about

ourselves

> > as

> > > we are not living for ourselves.

> > >

> > > hence i wish to answer all your queries with a view to

clarify

> > your

> > > doubts.

> > >

> > > the dreams are realted to mind and body. the dreams of

> > experienced

> > > by the mind and enjoyed by the body.

> > >

> > > in astral travel, it is no hallucination or dream. the SOUL

> > > literally travels where your mind suggests. so mostly it is

> soul

> > > and mind. in other words, you have conquered your body and

have

> > > aligned your mind and soul so that the soul can travel in

> > synchrony

> > > with what your mind suggests. this alignment of body, mind

and

> > soul

> > > itself is called SELF REALISATION.

> > >

> > > my appreciation of you for having achieved this level which

only

> > one

> > > in a crore achieves. do improve further and you will see

more

> > > miracles. however, if you develop interest or focus on your

> body

> > > and mind, then you lose these skills. i too had this

erratic

> > > rollercoaster ride whenever the maya tempts you to have good

> food,

> > > good clothes and make you believe that they give you

happiness.

> > so

> > > this maya is something which keeps forming like a cobweb

even if

> > you

> > > remove it once. so if these obstacles keep appearing from

> nowhere

> > > in your path of realisation, dont feel that you are not

realised

> > but

> > > feel that this maya works like this only and it is up to you

not

> > to

> > > fall into it.

> > >

> > > by the way, the best way to proceed further is to MAKE AS

MANY

> > OTHER

> > > SOULS AS HAPPY so that the larger soul or god combined of

> several

> > > souls start dwelling in you only to help you make happy even

> > higher

> > > number of people. sage vyasa summed up all 18 puranas in

one

> > > sentence: ashtadasa puraneshu vyasasya vachana dvayam;

> > paropakaraya

> > > punyaya paapaya parapeedanam.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > arjun

> > >

> > > , "John" <jr_esq@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Pandit Arjuna,

> > > >

> > > > Your experiences are very interesting, particularly those

> about

> > > > astral travel and creating maya. Did these experiences

come on

> > > > spontaneously or did someone teach you how to perform them

at

> > will?

> > > >

> > > > When I started a meditation practice many years ago, I

> > experienced

> > > > something very unusual which I consider to be an

equivalent to

> > one

> > > of

> > > > the siddhis mentioned by Patanjali, author of the Yoga

> Sutras.

> > > One

> > > > evening, after my meditation, my mind spontaneously went

into

> a

> > > > trance or samadhi. My own consciousness felt like it was

> flying

> > > > through an enclosed zone. I saw pink rods and cones and

> slowly

> > > > passed through them as if in a flying machine.

> > > >

> > > > After this experience, I ended up in a lucid dream in

which I

> > was

> > > in

> > > > a place with a huge beautiful mansion. As you can

imagine, I

> > was

> > > > scared to death as to what I was experiencing.

> > > >

> > > > In the following days after this episode, I concluded that

> > somehow

> > > I

> > > > was able to see the inner workings of my retina. The

retina

> > does

> > > > have rods and cones which process light to the brain. So,

> this

> > > > experience was equivalent to being able to become as small

as

> an

> > > > atom, a siddhi mentioned by Patanjali.

> > > >

> > > > The lucid dream episode may have been equivalent to astral

> > travel

> > > > which you mentioned. In logical terms, I have concluded

that

> > > lucid

> > > > dreams are experienced from time to time because of

meditation

> > > > practice.

> > > >

> > > > Nonetheless, I still ponder: where do these dreams come

from?

> > Do

> > > > they represent other worlds that the mind visits through

> astral

> > > > travel? Or do they represent traces of past life karma or

> even

> > > > future life experiences?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > John R.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > namaste john

> > > > >

> > > > > as you observed rightly, from my childhood i was into

> exorcism

> > > and

> > > > > in my teenage itself learnt palmistry and facereading

but

> not

> > > > > astrology. from the year 2000 onwards i entered into

tantra

> > and

> > > > > developed clairvoyance, astral travel and specialised in

> > > distance

> > > > > healing. i also did experimental creation of maya (non

> > existing

> > > > > persons) to few members of this group freely just to

confirm

> > > that

> > > > > such miracles do happen. i converted this healing

> positively

> > > into

> > > > > absorbing the chronic diseases of the suffering and also

for

> > > > driving

> > > > > off evils from the possessed. ALL THIS WAS DELOPED AND

MADE

> > > > > POSSIBLE ONLY BECAUSE OF DEDICATED MEDITATION DONE ALL

DAY

> > LONG

> > > IN

> > > > > RECLUSIVE SECLUSION FOR FEW YEARS.

> > > > >

> > > > > however, i started walking backwards towards astrology

> because

> > > it

> > > > > has more validation and acceptance than clairvoyance.

in my

> > > intial

> > > > > days of predictions, i used to write the horoscope of a

> person

> > > > > before he visits me and also write the problem he is

> suffering

> > > but

> > > > > realised am losing my energy in doing so. also, to

convince

> > the

> > > > > natives and substantiate with astrological

corroboration, i

> > > learnt

> > > > > bhrigu samhita, ravana samhita lalkitab and various

other

> > > books.

> > > > > even though till date i have not touched, seen or read

BPHS

> > even

> > > > > once, i know most of its contents through clairvoyance.

> > > > >

> > > > > anyway, am writing all this only to mention that mere

> > astrology

> > > is

> > > > > not sufficient and divine intution or clairvoyance is

what

> all

> > > > sages

> > > > > in the vedic era used to foretell.

> > > > >

> > > > > as you might have read my various posts i have been

> repeatedly

> > > > > telling in all groups that other than astrology, there

are

> > three

> > > > > more things which can change the future and hence many a

> time

> > an

> > > > > astrologer's predictions based purely on astrology do

not

> come

> > > true.

> > > > >

> > > > > as you rightly observed, this great holy land india has

so

> > many

> > > > > people like KNRao's mother who have the gift of god in

> telling

> > > > > future events without any knowledge of astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > as regards your comparing my skills with this laday, i

> > consider

> > > > > myself at the student level till my last breath but yes,

> > > definitely

> > > > > i would not hesitate to lose my life in saving someone

> else's

> > > life.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > >

> > > > > , "John"

<jr_esq@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste Pandit Arjuna,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm curious about the clairvoyance that you are

> > experiencing.

> > > > Did

> > > > > > you always have this gift when you were young? Or, did

> this

> > > skill

> > > > > > develop through a certain practice as an adult?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It appears to me that you don't need to use jyotish if

you

> > > have

> > > > > such

> > > > > > clairvoyance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KN Rao mentioned in the past that his mother used

jyotish

> > > early

> > > > in

> > > > > > her life for predictions. However, as she grew older

and

> > > became

> > > > > > wiser, she developed a skill of looking at the

person's

> face

> > > or

> > > > > > physical makeup to make predictions. As such, she did

not

> > use

> > > > > > jyotish anymore for determining a person's future. Is

> your

> > > > > > clairvoyance equivalent to this?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > John R.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

, "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear friend

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > unfortunately i could see (with claivoyance and not

> based

> > on

> > > > > > > astrology) an evil possession in the child which you

may

> > get

> > > > > > > exorcised after which the baby would be hale and

> hearty.

> > > > paying

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > visit to chota nikkara bhagawati mandir in kerala on

a

> > > friday

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > taking the blessings there besides having holy water

> from

> > > that

> > > > > > > temple is the best remedy. if your brother is in

> > hyderabad,

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > may visit me and i will give the holy water and do

> simple

> > > > > exorcism

> > > > > > > free of cost.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "ramaswamy

> p.n."

> > > > > > > <pnramaswamy@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pranams to all the gurus. I am a member of this

group.

> I

> > > > > require

> > > > > > > help for my brother's daughter. This child is having

> > health

> > > > > problem

> > > > > > > since 4 / 5 months. She is unable to eat and

whatever is

> > > > > consumed

> > > > > > > she vomits. All medical tests have been done

including

> CT

> > > Scan.

> > > > > > > Doctors say that the child has no problem.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The details of the girl is given hereunder:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DOB - 20.02.1998 time 1630 hrs - Place -

Hyderabad

> (AP)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Girl's father's details: DOB - 01.05.1956 TIME

0100

> > HRS

> > > > > (NIGHT

> > > > > > > OF 30.04.1956) - Place Palakkad (Kerala)

> > > > > > > > Girl's mother's details: DOB - 20.08.1962 time

2020

> > hrs

> > > > > Place -

> > > > > > > Guntakkal (AP).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please suggest remedies as the child's parents

are

> > > worried.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Pranams

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - pnramaswamy@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

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